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Zynga boss allegedly hates innovation, loves evil photo

A former Zynga employee has spilled the beans on boss Mark Pincus, alleging that he encourages the theft of ideas and going so far as to call the FarmVille developer evil. 

The ex-worker claims that Pincus said these exact words when talking about game development: "I don't f*cking want innovation. You're not smarter than your competitor. Just copy what they do and do it until you get their numbers."

He also states that the company's unofficial motto was "Be evil," which is a play on Google's "Don't be evil" corporate message. The anonymous developer also says that Zynga is "one of the most evil places I've run into, from a culture perspective and in its business approach" and that he does his best to make sure "friends don't let friends work at Zynga."

Mark Pincus and his cloak-and-dagger operations have come under fire in the past, so this is a case of more fuel on the fire. Still, you don't become one of the most successful developers in the world by playing Mr. Nice, I reckon. 

FarmVille boss 'doesn't f***ing want innovation' [CVG]








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Onyx Oblivion's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 12:23
Onyx Oblivion
You know what?

They are actually evil. Farmville is an extremely simplified, micro transaction run rip off of Harvest Moon.
Occams electric toothbrush's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 12:31
Occams electric toothbrush
Eh,what's the fun of life without a bit of evil?

/shrug
Chosen Smoogle's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 12:31
Chosen Smoogle
Whelp goes to show nice guys finish last and assholes advance and make tons of money
Qraze's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 12:32
Qraze
i won't be playing anything from them with that kind of business mentality.
Ozz236's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 12:33
Ozz236
I knew it. Then again, so does eveyone else they just didn't want to admit it.
hermes's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 12:34
hermes
"Still, you don't become one of the most successful developers in the world by playing Mr. Nice, I reckon."
So, Kotick was right all along?
rexwolf2's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 12:39
rexwolf2
Every
Villain
Is
Lemons
Enzi's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 12:40
Enzi
Quick! To the batmobile!
SKSith's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 12:43
SKSith
EEEEEVVVVVIIIIILLLLLL!!!!!
noodle791's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 12:44
noodle791
Bad is bad. Good is good. Bad, bad, good, bad. Good, good, bad, good... bad.
Fayl's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 12:47
Fayl
If this is the case why haven't they made a Dungeon Master Facebook game. Come on; if that's your motto back it up Mark.
HandsomeBeast's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 12:54
HandsomeBeast
If I ran a company, I'd act exactly like Mark Pincus.
Monodi's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 12:57
Monodi
Emphasis on "successful"?
Qraze's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 13:00
Qraze
innovation and originality are the real winners of this generation. not copy pasta.
Zeta Crossfire's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 13:03
Zeta Crossfire
At least hes honest. Most devs just steal from games and call them there own.
Monkey News's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 13:10
Monkey News
@Rexwolf.
Yes.
Sæglópur's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 13:10
Sæglópur
This guy is everything that is wrong with corporate culture. Don't blame capitalism, blame corporatism. Everyone is always looking for more power and they'll crack as many eggs as need be to make an omelette.
jawshoeuh's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 13:12
jawshoeuh
Not surprising. Pah. I don't play any of those games.
RogueEpidemic's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 13:16
RogueEpidemic
Ah, capitalism is corporatism, mate.
RenegadePanda's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 13:17
RenegadePanda
Did anyone really think FarmVille was innovative to begin with?
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 13:23
Xzyliac
Patriot Snake is right. See the thing about evil is getting caught. If you've got the brains to be evil without getting caught (or in this case anyone caring) you win. It's easy work. Just takes brains.

Even if you're just ripping off someone else's product.

Also, what Occams said.

And lastly originality is a myth and innovation is a buzzword. Nice to see someone is owning up to that.

Kinda wish he wasn't a dickface about it but hey. When you're on the unpopular side of two opinions (we need innovation v. we don't need innovation) you take what you can get.
Salnax's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 13:31
Salnax
Evil? I dunno? Innovative? Of course not. The chief difference between Farmville and Harvest Moon is the popularity of the former.
GEKKO-Fox's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 13:37
GEKKO-Fox
Don't give in to anger! That leads to the Dark Side!
Psychocandy's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 13:39
Psychocandy
Farmville stole my girlfriend. I've recently heard her utter things like: «Who cares if we're gonna be late, I need to harvest tomatoes». So yeh, mr. Pincus has to be evil, probably he even has a plan for stealing people's souls and use them to fuel his Apocalypt-o-matic.
I want my girlfriend back, mr. Pincus!
Occams electric toothbrush's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 13:42
Occams electric toothbrush
@Patriot Snake: Robes that come in a variety of earth tones?
Teclo's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 13:49
Teclo
Where exactly is Farmville so popular? I've only heard it mentioned in that South Park episode and possibly once again on this very site. Both times I got the impression that "everyone" knew what it was. I guess it must be more of an American thing.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 13:49
Xzyliac
@Patriot Snake
The opportunity to make out with your sister.
Psychocandy's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 14:11
Psychocandy
@Teclo: here (i.e. Italy) FarmVille is THE SHIT, I have some 500 contacts on FB (before you ask, I use it for work, not only for fun) and, say, 300 of them have a FarmVille account and flood my wall with lost cows and crops and broccoli. My contacts' hometown span from the extremely grim and frostbitten north of the country to the awesomely hot south, so I'd say it's kind of an epidemic here.

@Patriot Snake: dunno, cookies? Or was it the Dark Side again?
fulldamage's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 14:16
fulldamage
@Xzyliac

Okay, I actually LOLed at that. +1 internets to you.
The Magic Conch's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 14:19
The Magic Conch
"More Satan stories"

oh, Jim <3
Kefka's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 14:45
Kefka
Dear Zynga, give us Brian Reynolds back. Thanks.
Sæglópur's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 15:36
Sæglópur
RogueEpidemic:

Nope, not entirely. Corporatism sees people as nothing more than a sea of people who are numbers and nothing more. Capitalism is about any one of those "numbers" getting a shot in the process, and if you fail, then you fail.

Now don't get me wrong, both corporatism and capitalism can be good and bad. However, as a whole, global corporations, many of whom are run out of places like China (not too capitalist, eh?), are run by complete monsters who are out to crush and destroy smaller businesses that make it in a capitalist system.
Gee-Man's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 15:36
Gee-Man
Quite depressing to hear that, especially since I've actually heard people who were so unbelievably stupid, they called Harvest Moon "an overpriced Farmville ripoff." When it gets to that point, you kind of lose faith in the goodness of mankind.
Cortes121's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 15:58
Cortes121
@patriot snake

Some nice swamp front property
DarkEternal's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 18:10
DarkEternal
@patriot snake
"Evil will always win, because good is dumb."

-- Spaceballs? :)
AkodoRyu's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 18:19
AkodoRyu
@ Psychocandy: He wants to steal our souls? Hmm... is he a ginger?
DustyBlue's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 18:24
DustyBlue
Well, hey, that's how business works.
HYRULESKNIGHT's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 18:38
HYRULESKNIGHT
FARMVILLE is officially now the coolest thing ever....lol their boss seems awesome
Fearzone's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 19:41
Fearzone
Naughty or nice, I don't think I've ever been in danger of playing a zinga game.

Anyway I read this article because the title made me laugh. You should have added ..."and strangles kittens too."

Don't be nice. Don't be evil. Be productive and do good stuff. And always remember: it ain't really your space station.
EdgyDude's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 20:58
EdgyDude
@Xzyliac: "Patriot Snake is right"

The fact that you say this AND it's true scares me beyond my darkest nightmares.
Ubersuntzu's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2010 03:24
Ubersuntzu
@RogueEpidemic

Bullshit. Capitalism is about being responsible for and profiting from your own risks. Corporations were founded for the sole purpose of dodging legal responsibility and corrupting the law enough to out maneuver genuine innovation.

Corporatism = Communism for the rich.
Ubersuntzu's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2010 05:46
Ubersuntzu
@Xzyliac

"And lastly originality is a myth and innovation is a buzzword. Nice to see someone is owning up to that."

That's only true if you believe the only way to be original or innovative is to completely start from scratch and ignore everything that has come before you every time you attempt to create something. If you define such concepts that way then yeah, you're bound to be disappointing by "originality." But why would you set yourself up to be disappointed?

Innovation and originality are both about taking what worked before and adding something that improves what you started with. No need to set up magical levels of expectation.
ShenMoo's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2010 07:06
ShenMoo
im buying a ps3 later today so i feeeeeeeeeeeel good regardless of this mr evil farmville person
whormongr's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2010 12:41
whormongr
@salnax actually I have a number of friends that work @ zynga - evil is pretty close.
RogueEpidemic's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2010 15:03
RogueEpidemic
@Ubersuntzu

Corporatism = communism for the rich? Have you ever even studied basic economic theory? Corporatism is welfare capitalism for the rich. Communism is a dictator-less, classless society, where labor benefits societal needs rather than profit gains. Capitalism is about finding a realm of exploitation and creating monetary gain. Risks at the expense of others is not for free people.

You need to study, son.
The Sama's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/17/2011 19:30
The Sama
I am disappoint.
isbloodpojur54's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/14/2011 17:38
isbloodpojur54
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