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Can't wait for a port to a platform that doesn't require holding up a non-tablet to shoot, look at maps, our view an inventory screen!
And when it's ported, I'd hope they'd put more than 23 minutes to a week worth of effort into the job, and hopefully commission experienced and knowledge people to work on it if the existing team isn't.
"I like touch screens if they're incorporated into the flow of the game, but not if they act as a buffer between on-screen action sequences."
I have to disagree Jim. I think most of us are familiar with the "combat fatigue" phenomenon in gaming. You can't just spend an entire game shooting at shit. You get sick of it and need moments of whatever else to break it up. For some games that whatever else is exploration, some do platforming, some do puzzles, etc.
I think touchscreen puzzle solving is a great idea for a combat fatigue breaker. It engages your mind and your hands and gives you a chance to recover a bit before tossing out more zombies. I dig the idea quite a bit actually. Granted I haven't played it though so this is all speculative on my part. Dunno if you've had your hands on it yet or not.
I have to disagree Jim. I think most of us are familiar with the "combat fatigue" phenomenon in gaming. You can't just spend an entire game shooting at shit. You get sick of it and need moments of whatever else to break it up. For some games that whatever else is exploration, some do platforming, some do puzzles, etc.
I think touchscreen puzzle solving is a great idea for a combat fatigue breaker. It engages your mind and your hands and gives you a chance to recover a bit before tossing out more zombies. I dig the idea quite a bit actually. Granted I haven't played it though so this is all speculative on my part. Dunno if you've had your hands on it yet or not.
I feel that looking at the GamePad, while it does add the need for constantly glancing at my TV to make sure nothing is coming at me, will be nothing more than a annoyance.
Despite my previous hate-filled comments about the WiiU, I want it to succeed now. But I think that Nintendo is relying far too much on the GamePad.
Despite my previous hate-filled comments about the WiiU, I want it to succeed now. But I think that Nintendo is relying far too much on the GamePad.
Both games try to spook you out quite differently though, Amnesia probably doesn't need a second screen to get your blood flowing but in ZombieU being able to peek at the zombies closing in on you adds a level of tension above that of the original resident evil games.
Zombies are by nature stupid creatures, you will never feel stalked in the same way as you probably would in amnesia. So how to get you truly terrified has to be tweaked.
Zombies are by nature stupid creatures, you will never feel stalked in the same way as you probably would in amnesia. So how to get you truly terrified has to be tweaked.
I think, for what i understrand look in the touch screen is to give a sensation of rapid change focus.
Let´s take a example, you try to get loot for a box, you look to the screen, but you can give a quick look in the TV to see if any danger is comming.
Or a quick look in the invetory, you look what is in your backpack to grab things but you still can look to see any zombies trying to get you
I think this can be easily incorporated in a lonely screen in the living room or monitor, but if is what they have in my mind sounds good to me.
Let´s take a example, you try to get loot for a box, you look to the screen, but you can give a quick look in the TV to see if any danger is comming.
Or a quick look in the invetory, you look what is in your backpack to grab things but you still can look to see any zombies trying to get you
I think this can be easily incorporated in a lonely screen in the living room or monitor, but if is what they have in my mind sounds good to me.
Hope this game turns out great. Really only one of the two games im interested at launch. Who would of thought a zombie game would sell me a console these days.
Tristrix: I understand what you're saying, but there's an elegance to doing that. Many agree the hacking sequences in the first BioShock were flow-breaking and felt like arbitrary buffers. Meanwhile, the code breaking in, say, Arkham City felt more natural and like a natural pause in the action as opposed to an abrupt stop.
If Ubisoft can use the touch input in a way that feels like it's a natural part of the game and not an arbitrary requirement to stop everything and fiddle around, I'm all for it. I remain skeptical at the moment. Hopeful, but skeptical.
If Ubisoft can use the touch input in a way that feels like it's a natural part of the game and not an arbitrary requirement to stop everything and fiddle around, I'm all for it. I remain skeptical at the moment. Hopeful, but skeptical.
Jim, i actually thought the hacking sequences in Bioshock were sometimes well done because you had to pull them off in pressure situations, like to disable alarms that were going off at the time. Also there was that price for failure (losing life) if you failed the hack. I think thats the vibe they are going for in Zombie U. It looks more natural than Bioshock though because you are having to switch between two screens in realtime, whereas in bioshock it was only one screen for each. Thanks for the write up.
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Horror hasn't even been horror yet because you've always needed a tablet in front of you to make it scary. It took Nintendo to finally realize all these years that this is what the world needs for horror.
Imagine in Aliens that YOU got to hold the scanner the entire movie? How fucking scary would that be? Fucking scary right? RIGHT!?
I just hate the industry PR bullshit that spins crap like that making new product X sound like it is needed to make something work.
Horror hasn't even been horror yet because you've always needed a tablet in front of you to make it scary. It took Nintendo to finally realize all these years that this is what the world needs for horror.
Imagine in Aliens that YOU got to hold the scanner the entire movie? How fucking scary would that be? Fucking scary right? RIGHT!?
I just hate the industry PR bullshit that spins crap like that making new product X sound like it is needed to make something work.
calling it now: Metacritic for ZombiU 75
lowest review: 3,0 by Destructoid
Trolling aside, I think it looks promising....fingers crossed !!!!
lowest review: 3,0 by Destructoid
Trolling aside, I think it looks promising....fingers crossed !!!!
I'm OK with having to use the GamePad to cycle through inventory, as I think that's a good way to up the fear factor while not being overly intrusive. Having to hold the thing up in front of the TV to scan shit, though, is just dumb.
Yeah, I agree with Andy. The un-tablet is there regardless, so using it to sort inventories and view mini-maps might as well be implemented... but holding a non-tablet up in the air to melee waggle or look through scopes and shit is needlessly intrusive and annoying.
I'd say this perfectly defines the word "gimmick", in that nearly all the features it brings could be done on a single, traditional set up, and some if the things it changes do nothing new, but make existing functions more tedious and/or less accurate.
The game premise is fantastic, though. If they can port it to another platform where mini-maps and inventories are on a quickly accessible menu, a responsive button press away, with the action blurry and barely visible on the outskirts of the screen during tense sections, then then this game offers all of the tension and functionality of the de-tablet hardware.
I'd say this perfectly defines the word "gimmick", in that nearly all the features it brings could be done on a single, traditional set up, and some if the things it changes do nothing new, but make existing functions more tedious and/or less accurate.
The game premise is fantastic, though. If they can port it to another platform where mini-maps and inventories are on a quickly accessible menu, a responsive button press away, with the action blurry and barely visible on the outskirts of the screen during tense sections, then then this game offers all of the tension and functionality of the de-tablet hardware.
the WiiPad functionality is the most interesting part of this game along with the pacing of it.
and yes games like Amnesia didn't happened on consoles, but Nintendo platforms are the only ones that can support those types of experiences, neither Xbox nor Playstation have an open-minded audience to support ballsy and risky projects. Wii and DS already proved that years ago. Wii already had it's fair share of slow paced horror games that were all about exploration and puzzle solving years ago and when you look at ZombiU it's clearly an evolution of those games.
let's face it, you want generic shooters and action games you buy playstation/xbox. you want original titles that take huge risks you buy nintendo consoles.
Nintendo platforms are the only ones when games like Call of Duty can coexist with 2D/3D platformers, RPGs, text adventure games, strategy games etc. and all of those can sell millions of copies.
and yes games like Amnesia didn't happened on consoles, but Nintendo platforms are the only ones that can support those types of experiences, neither Xbox nor Playstation have an open-minded audience to support ballsy and risky projects. Wii and DS already proved that years ago. Wii already had it's fair share of slow paced horror games that were all about exploration and puzzle solving years ago and when you look at ZombiU it's clearly an evolution of those games.
let's face it, you want generic shooters and action games you buy playstation/xbox. you want original titles that take huge risks you buy nintendo consoles.
Nintendo platforms are the only ones when games like Call of Duty can coexist with 2D/3D platformers, RPGs, text adventure games, strategy games etc. and all of those can sell millions of copies.
@tristix
If you are suffering combat fatigue, you aren't playing a survival horror. Maybe a spooky shooter which has largely absorbed the genre, but not a horror survival.
If you are suffering combat fatigue, you aren't playing a survival horror. Maybe a spooky shooter which has largely absorbed the genre, but not a horror survival.
I think Ubisoft should add Remote+Nunchuk support. I love the idea of the second screen, like a giant DS, but no control scheme is better for an FPS than the Remote+Nunchuk.
That being said, I love how the Nintendo Cycle is already starting.
1. People complain a Nintendo system has no games
2. Said Nintendo system gets a few really interesting games
3. People demand that all the interesting games get ported to other systems.
Next-gen, here we come!
That being said, I love how the Nintendo Cycle is already starting.
1. People complain a Nintendo system has no games
2. Said Nintendo system gets a few really interesting games
3. People demand that all the interesting games get ported to other systems.
Next-gen, here we come!
When he showed swinging that fucking tablet to swing the pick axe I was like "OH SHIT", that really doesn't work! Not for an extended period of time anyway. Not looking forward to doing that over and over again, and I hope no other game incorporates swinging that fucking thing around, its too unwieldy.
I like the idea of tension being caused by having to look down at the pad. I really hope this game does well. Although I do see it polarizing critics, sometimes those games end up being really good......for me anyways.
I'm hopeful about this. It looks fun and that shotgun seems really enjoyable to use. I miss a good shotgun, one were you "feel" the punch of the gun, like in quake 2.
@sofik
you're going to piss off more than a few people saying shit like,"neither Xbox nor Playstation have an open-minded audience" and "let's face it, you want generic shooters and action games you buy playstation/xbox" We have Journey and Okami, dude.
-Also, "the WiiPad functionality is the most interesting part of this game along with the pacing of it."
Try:" the WiiPad functionality is the ONLY interesting part of this game. It's another zombie game for fucks sake. what Jim said about killing your last character to get your items back was pretty rad though.
you're going to piss off more than a few people saying shit like,"neither Xbox nor Playstation have an open-minded audience" and "let's face it, you want generic shooters and action games you buy playstation/xbox" We have Journey and Okami, dude.
-Also, "the WiiPad functionality is the most interesting part of this game along with the pacing of it."
Try:" the WiiPad functionality is the ONLY interesting part of this game. It's another zombie game for fucks sake. what Jim said about killing your last character to get your items back was pretty rad though.
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