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Zipper would love to see someone try and put MAG on 360 photo

MAG is a PS3 exclusive game, and you all know what that means. Yes, it's time for a developer to claim that the game can only be done on the PS3! Declaring that only a few other systems could handle the massiveness of this Massive Action Game, lead designer Scott Rudi openly wonders if MAG would work as a multiplatform game. 

"I don't even know if it's possible for multiplatform," states Rudi. "We're using so many architectural features unique to the PS3, like the Cell system, that I would be hard pressed to -- and I'm not a programmer or anything -- but from what I've been hearing, this is what the PS3 can do and few others can."

Still, Rudi is not without hope, stating that he'd "love to see someone else try" and produce the MAG experience on Xbox 360. While we wait for someone to try that out, feel free to gawp at our MAG review and make baseless assumptions about the game and the author like you've all been doing.

'MAG is what PS3 can do and few others can' – Zipper [Videogamer]








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Nolan South's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/26/2010 09:22
Nolan South
Fuck you, Zipper, your game isn't that good.
Slowey's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/26/2010 09:24
Slowey
Another day, another shit storm. I think its time I finally get a PS3 anyway, their library is getting better and better games every few weeks. I havent been playing my Xbox very much lately. I really want to give MAG a try. Seems like a great change of pace compared to 4v4 or 6v6 im used to. The person commanding everyone from above makes it seem like a massive RTS to me.
Dr Milkdad's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/26/2010 09:25
Dr Milkdad
This must be part of their contracts when they get funding by Sony.
pl0x kthanxbai's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/26/2010 09:26
pl0x kthanxbai
im indescribable surprised by the nature of that statement...





wait no, im not
Nolan South's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/26/2010 09:26
Nolan South
@Kamikaze Slowey

I wouldn't call my remarks a shit storm, I was just saying that they're treating MAG like Deus Ex, when the highest review score that it has gotten so far from any site is 8/10.
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/26/2010 09:27
Sexualchocolate
Fuck you Nolan South, MAG is the most interesting, engaging and literally massive FPS made to date.

If all you're looking for is shiney graphics, stick to Call of Knifey: Glitch Borefare 2. If you can't understand how many boundaries MAG pushes you're fucking blind.

I think it's a case of, the code wouldn't translate as the architecture is so different. no one is saying that other consoles aren't good enough, just different.

Chill out Xbox defense force.
catsithx's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/26/2010 09:27
catsithx
Oh well time to see what happens next .
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/26/2010 09:29
Sexualchocolate
I love all this MAG coverage Jim, but I've got to wait 3 more fucking days to get back into the Shadow War and you're making me itch for some more massive Action....


Game.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/26/2010 09:30
Chris Carter
I guarantee you it would have a much bigger community.

Look at ANY FPS on both platforms. Sometimes I'll log in Modern Warfare 2 on both consoles, only to find 50K+ more people on Xbox Live.
Blood And Beer's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/26/2010 09:30
Blood And Beer
This game is flop, who cares.
Nolan South's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/26/2010 09:30
Nolan South
@ Sexualchocolate

I'm no graphics whore, and MAG is not a great game. I wouldn't call it BAD, but it certainly isn't great. I don't mind saying that the PS3 has a few really good games, but MAG isn't one of them.
Chronic Logic's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/26/2010 09:31
Chronic Logic
Is MAG played on dedicated servers or player hosted servers?

Now if the problem is solely the number of people the game can host, then I'm sure that can be easily solved. If the 360 can play MMO games, surely the 360 can handle MAG. Hell the DreamCast did it years ago.

Also, Inb4 fanboys and trolls.
Astalano's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/26/2010 09:31
Astalano
Lol, I bet you could get 602 players on PC. Fuck you and fuck your game Mr Rudi, go troll elsewhere.
BattyAdroit's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/26/2010 09:32
BattyAdroit
"..and make baseless assumptions about the game and the author like you've all been doing."

Lol. This website's readership is comprised of manchildren.
Crawdads Revenge's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/26/2010 09:34
Crawdads Revenge
Zipper probably really would love to see it on the Xbox. It would have far better sales that way.
linuxguy's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/26/2010 09:35
linuxguy
I would love to see someone try and put mass effect on the ps3, no really I would love to because I lack the 360 or the good pc to play it
Camiwaits's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/26/2010 09:36
Camiwaits
I'd think it would be easier on Xbox?

*shrugs

They have the better online service.


In any case, i'm more excited about other PS3 exclusives who privilege the single player experience: GOW III, Heavy Rain & Yakuza 3
WormFOODx's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/26/2010 09:37
WormFOODx
@Sexualchocolate

Settle down Beavis. He is right though. I think we all tire, on every platfor, the grandstanding that developers do from their game. It is a solid shooter, but it doesn't walk on water.
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/26/2010 09:38
Sexualchocolate
I'm pretty sure that MAG would work fine on a 360 or on a PC.

Wow, was that Sexualchocolate that just said that?!?! Shit!

Seriously though, it doesn't seem like too demanding a game, just some seriously clever netcode and good prioritising of netcode over graphics, with very satisfying and deep gameplay.

A good measure of this is how my PS3 has a busted and noisy fan. MAG very rarely put it into serious "shit i got to cool myself down set fans on HARDCORE!!!" Whereas Modern Wankness 2 will quickly put my fan into HARDCORE mode.

Doesn't mean it's better, it's almost a shame that such a shite game can demand so much from the hardware while a far far better game (MAG) doesn't.

Cannot wait to get back to OIC status. Although calling in strafing runs as Platoon Leader is the bollocks.

Anyone fighting for Raven or Valor will soon feel the pain of my steel rain! - just give me a couple of days to get back to platoon leader.....
mizzougrad01's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/26/2010 09:39
mizzougrad01
"feel free to gawp at our MAG review and make baseless assumptions about the game and the author like you've all been doing." priceless!
PieInTheSky's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/26/2010 09:41
PieInTheSky
Sigh Why do they have to be so defensive? we know that the game could probably be ported to the 360 and its only exclusive because Sony paid you to or something on them lines.
EternalDeathSlayer's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/26/2010 09:42
EternalDeathSlayer
Look, MAG is a good game and all, but I really don't care if you can play with 255 other people. I played the beta, it felt like standard FPS fare with more dudes to fight. There's nothing particularly innovative about it's actual core gameplay. While commanding other people and all that comes with it is somewhat interesting, the shooting is just like any other FPS. In fact, I thought it felt quite a bit like CoD in terms of controls and character movements.

Basically what I'm saying is that I'm cool with 8vs8 or 16v16 or whatever, so long as the game is bringing something truly interesting or exciting to the table. More people is not very exciting, not in a "HOLY SHIT DID YOU SEE THE WAY THIS AMAZING NEW WEAPON TORE THAT DUDES HEAD OFF!?!?!?!?" kind of way.

It's cool and a nice feature, but that's all it really is: A feature. At it's core having that many people is just an old feature that's been beefed up.

Think about it: In 15 years we might be playing online FPS with 1000 people at once, like some REAL full scare war shit. And nobody will remember MAG. Why? Because it's just another online shooter only with more people to shoot online.
Pudge Controls the Weather's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/26/2010 09:43
Pudge Controls the Weather
"Call of Knifey: Glitch Borefare 2."

Still can't beat MAG - MEN ASS GRABBER
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/26/2010 09:48
Sexualchocolate
As far as I'm concerned, MAG does walk on water.

It takes everything i want from a shooting game, puts it into some fucking awesome brilliantly designed maps, gives it a point and a reason, gives you a great sense of camaraderie (*sp) and not only that, let's 256 players play together!

It walks on my water..

uh, what?

Seriously though after a week playing MAG you will feel like part of your faction. playing as Russian one minute, then as yanks, then as Russian again and not caring if your team wins or not is just not good enough anymore.

Faction loyalty has flipped fPS games on their head for me. It's no longer Kill the red guys, it's now kill those Raven scumbags or those Valor dicks! Alah Akbah!

Hell I'm looking for the bits i need to dress my 3 week old son in a SVER outfit.

Pics will follow if i find all the bits i need. SVER baby FTW!
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/26/2010 09:48
Chris Carter
@EDS
I'm not sure why console fans are super excited with the high count, honestly. Battlefield and various other PC games have been throttling high player counts for nearly a decade.

I think MAG will suffer the same fate as Planetside (another high player count FPS with three factions - also with Sony!): offering high player counts, but nothing really revolutionary or original, and thus, not a blockbuster.
Shadowiii's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/26/2010 09:49
Shadowiii
Why is it a PS3 exclusive? Does Sony own Zipper? Most PS exclusives tend to be published by Sony (which makes sense, as most Xbox exclusives are published by MS), but if it isn't then maybe somebody actually SHOULD try to put it on the Xbox.
I mean, it would sell a TON of copies (it's pretty much proven if you put a decent shooter on the 360, it'll sell). The only downside I could see is they'd be competing with the almighty Halo (and MW2), which might make it more of a passing fad rather then long lasting (say what you want, but the PS3 still doesn't have a "definitive FPS" like the Xbox does with Halo).
Still, wouldn't mind seeing it on the Xbox. The demo/beta was...well, actually not that great from what I played, but from Jim's review it looked like they made it a lot better since then.
benus's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/26/2010 09:51
benus
somehow the less people are interested in playing mag just make me more interested in it,

i think it will make's the average player, a player who have real interested in the MAG concept and not just ranking Kill in the newest whatever FPS...
ArrestedDeveloper's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/26/2010 09:51
ArrestedDeveloper
The only thing I find more distasteful than third party developers publicly fellating the console their current game is exclusive to is when there game is shit.
Xonticus's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/26/2010 09:53
Xonticus
Meh, idk about everyone else, but I like the ranking features and leadership capabilities implemented in this game. makes you actually strive to play more games and want to be involved.

@Jim, well played, sir. Plus I have to say I like your review even if we won't see the full scale awesomeness of this game for at least a month or two. Then we'll see how good the game is when it is a lot easier to find massive matches. Gunna pick up my copy in a few hours after class.

@ everyone raging their opinions, if you don't like that game, then fine. There are other shooters out there. People have different tastes in shooters, and this is just another flavor.
SnatchTease's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/26/2010 09:57
SnatchTease
I'd love to see 256 people playing this simultaneously a couple months from now. Chances are though, that new games will come out, everyone will forget, and by then you will never see the max number of players again in that game.
DGX Goggles's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/26/2010 09:58
DGX Goggles
Put it on the PC. Doubt any of the consoles could play it then.
TorpedoTed's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/26/2010 09:59
TorpedoTed
i enjoyed the MW2 single player campaign i though it was awesome, does this game have a single player campaign?

online is so boring, had enough of it on pc years ago, you just get bitchy teenagers shouting at each other..yawn!! il sit next to my real friends and play split screen any day,,online is bull shit!
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/26/2010 09:59
Sexualchocolate
Oh yeah, and it plays on dedicated servers.

Why do people talk like 256 players ON A CONSOLE is nothing new or exciting? Or that an FPS game needs some kind of gimmick. I'm all for this SOLID shooter, with ranks and command status, support weapons and a massive amount of players myself.

I like my shooters without fucking stupid gimmicks, however it seems some people only like shooters with gimmicks which they call "innovation".

killcams - killstreaks - vehicles - super powers - super jumpy pads (yuck) - shiney sheild pickups - invisibility pickups - piss bottles - all that shit makes most games silly.

MAG is all about realistic team play on a massive scale and that, my friends, it pulls of FLAWLESSLY.
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/26/2010 10:02
Sexualchocolate
oh yeah, and thanks for the image tribute!

I love getting image tributes....
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/26/2010 10:06
Holyetheline
@Magnalon

Thank you for that. I almost forgot what the real sexualchocolate looked like.
framesbond's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/26/2010 10:08
framesbond
this is why i love valve, instead of saying the ps3 can't run their games they say, "um, ps3, who the fuck cares"
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/26/2010 10:09
Xzyliac
Oh shut up Zipper. Nobody fucking cares. If it were Naughty Dog or Insomniac I'd care about your fanboy fodder but I've played every game you've made leading up to MAG and you have nothing to brag about. Back into your dungeons. I'm sick of this "Oh I'd like to see this 360 boys try," bullshit. Bitch, please. No matter how good your game is who the fuck wants a 256 player FPS? Nobody is drooling and begging and kicking for your game Zipper. Calm down.

I know I sound a tad anti-PS3 here but we get this same fucking story at least twice a week. Shut up and make your fucking games Sony devs.
eduh's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/26/2010 10:10
eduh
the funniest thing is that the game looks like crap LOL
ChaosTeaCup's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/26/2010 10:10
ChaosTeaCup
Chocsy - you loved MW2 when you first got it. Stop going on about it like it's Satan or something. You like MAG better - cool. But not everything good has to be at the expense of something else.

I wish this game success for it is an awesome concept that I would dearly love to see rewarded and replicated.
Brolsen's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/26/2010 10:15
Brolsen
Oh boy I cant wait till quantic dream says something similar.
JACK of No Trades's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/26/2010 10:15
JACK of No Trades
"Fuck you, Zipper, your game isn't that good." -because its not on your 360-

Last time I checked none of you are programmers/designers that make large scale multiplayer video games. Why don't all of you just shut the fuck up. I bet the ones doing all the complaining don't have a single creative bone in their body. Everytime a PS3/360 exclusive comes out you people have to shoot it down because its not on your favorite console. Shouldn't have this stopped years ago? Or am I still in 06?
Crawdads Revenge's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/26/2010 10:17
Crawdads Revenge
@Xzyliac
"Nobody is drooling and begging and kicking for your game Zipper."

Actually I know one guy that is.
Aurain's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/26/2010 10:17
Aurain
It could be true on the 256man server thing, I don't know.

It's not true on any other level.
N0R3M0RS3's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/26/2010 10:19
N0R3M0RS3
MAG's not even an original concept. PlanetSide, an MMOFPS on PC from back in the day, had WAY more than MAG does. PC is still the king of the networking world and will not be dethroned until consoles become an open platform.
JACK of No Trades's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/26/2010 10:19
JACK of No Trades
Xzyliac

I will never be as cool as you :/
Elsa's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/26/2010 10:20
Elsa
The technology really is incredible. Within just the last year or so we've gone from 32 player maps to 64 player maps (R2).... with a massive jump to 256.

It really is quite a technical feat to have 256 players on the same map, with no lag on a console game.
(and luckily Zipper is a subsidiary of Sony so the tech will likely be shared and could be applied to other games... but yeah, it's EXTREMELY unlikely the tech would be shared with a multiplatform dev.) :)
jawshoeuh's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/26/2010 10:20
jawshoeuh
bitch. moan. whine. groan.

...yawn.
pl0x kthanxbai's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/26/2010 10:22
pl0x kthanxbai
@Nolan South

you completely missed the point, scott was talkin about the technical aspect of having 256 players online



noone is talkin about the quality of the game, which isnt really bad
GuitarAtomik's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/26/2010 10:25
GuitarAtomik
@Sexualchocolate

EVERY online multiplayr game should have killcams. EVERY. SINGLE. ONE.
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