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Zelda producer won't stop until he betters Ocarina of Time

9:39 AM on 11.26.2008, Jim Sterling 55 comments

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Legend of Zelda producer Eiji Aonuma is known as the man behind the N64's legendary Ocarina of Time, a resume addition that should see any man set for life. Aonuma, however, is no ordinary man. Not content to rest on his laurels, the producer has stated that he won't quit until he creates a game even better than Ocarina.

"I’m happy that a title I worked on some time ago remains highly praised to this day, but that also shows how none of the subsequent games in the series have surpassed it," he explains. "As someone who is still working on the series, I have mixed feelings about that. Because I haven’t yet surpassed it, I can’t quit. Surprisingly, that simple motivation may be the reason I continue to work on the Zelda series."

Now that's a man I can respect. I loved Wind Waker and Twilight Princess, but to see a man so driven to do better, especially in an industry where cheap and rushed sequels have become the standard, is incredibly encouraging. Best of luck to Eiji Aonuma. If he can succeed in his goal, then it's safe to say that we're all going to be winners.


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Kapkomi's Avatar
Kapkomi at 11/26/2008 09:51
I like Majora's Mask better.
the Golden Avatar's Avatar
the Golden Avatar at 11/26/2008 09:56
Actually, don't tell him I said that. I don't want him to stop until he makes a sci-fi Zelda. Unless, of course, him stopping brings in someone who will.
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Monodi at 11/26/2008 09:57
^ Same as I do, hehe, but we got nothing to lose in this. :]
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Kieger at 11/26/2008 09:58
I think Wind Waker was very close to the level of OoT.

I'm very glad to know the amount of passion he still holds.
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Genius at 11/26/2008 10:08
I hated TP and I loved OoT. I thought TP was going to be the second coming I bought it without a second thought, I popped it in and played it and said to myself what the hell is this? In short I disliked the who dog gameplay thing, and I really disliked the waggle, so yeah Eiji Aonuma please go back to the drawing board and give me a REAL successor to OoT, and dont stop until you do goddammit.
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Im OK at 11/26/2008 10:08
Inb4 the 2 or 3 commenters who never fail to let it be known that they think OoT sucked.
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Bizznet at 11/26/2008 10:09
Aonuma is great. Good on him for wanting to best Ocarina of Time.
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JamnOnTheOne at 11/26/2008 10:10
Twilight Princess was almost better than OoT. Too bad they screwed it up with the many return and timed visits to the temple
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Tubatic at 11/26/2008 10:10
Sci-fi or full steampunk Zelda would be FASCINATING!

Wind Waker was an amazing experience. The last third of it was epic and, as a zelda fan, down right heartwarming.

Plus, I really did enjoy sailing.
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WarZombie at 11/26/2008 10:10
The Legend Of Zelda is one of the most consistent franchises in video games. It's hard to argue this, and it makes it even harder when you're trying to top what many consider the "best" game in the series. If he succeeds, then we're going to have one of the greatest games ever created on our hands. If he doesn't top OoT, then we will still have what will probably be another stellar Zelda game.

Either way, we all win :)
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DanGale at 11/26/2008 10:13
Well if that's the case then he should have stopped after Wind Waker, the greatest Zelda, ney, the greatest game of all time.
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eternalplayer2345 at 11/26/2008 10:15
So he wants to make the BEST REMAKE EVAR?
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Demtor at 11/26/2008 10:15
As much as I love the games, sometimes I wish the Zelda series took itself a little more seriously and amped the difficulty up a few notches. That would be a good start I think to surpassing past expectations. Of course, this is a casual friendly Nintendo we're talking about... so that will never happen.

And call me mother fucking crazy, but it would be nice to see Zelda on a more powerful system. Then maybe we could see a truly MASSIVE and detailed world to explore instead feeling limited as they do at times. This too, will never happen though... which is why they should go back to 2D sprites ;-)
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the Golden Avatar at 11/26/2008 10:16
@Tubatic

That's just it. Wind Waker stands the test of time better then Ocarina, because while the graphics and gameplay of both (especially OoT) really start to show, Wind Waker has a soul that holds up.

The interactions with characters and environments feel rather empty in OoT. On the reverse, WW has this sort of heart to everything.

I don't know, it's kind of hard for me to explain. Just my opinion, though.
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Monodi at 11/26/2008 10:20
And not to mention the characters on WW are the most expressive I have ever seen in a videogame.
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DJP3DRO at 11/26/2008 10:25
Awww, chillax Eiji, you already did that with Wind Waker. :]
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parrothead at 11/26/2008 10:26
I really like Twilight and Phantom Hourglass. But he needs to keep trying!!
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Monodi at 11/26/2008 10:30
Except Phantom Hourglass was annoyingly easy.
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Primo at 11/26/2008 10:32
So if he actually makes a game that surpasses OoT, wouldn't that mean it would be the greatest game ever created???
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Seta Soujiro at 11/26/2008 10:42
Oh wow, what words from Eiji-san!
I loved Wind Waker, Twilight Princess, AND Majora's Mask (yeah).I believe that OoT has already been bested by Twilight Princess and most probably by the other 2 too.

Sure, the other games don't instantly blow you away like OoT did in it's time but that's because the subsequent games borrow heavily from it. I believe they are better products overall. Anyway, it's admirable to see that this guy just wants to keep improving! I'll wait patiently for his next Zelda game. =)

Phantom Hourglass was...annoying to say the least. I really didn't like that game for many reasons. =/
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Holyetheline at 11/26/2008 10:42
I thought windwaker was pretty epic. How do you get better than Ocarina though? It's going to be hard. I hope he can do it.
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RonBurgandy2010 at 11/26/2008 10:46
Remake Wind Waker without the stealth missions, and we may have a winner.

Or make a new IP. Whatever works.
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Kyvon08 at 11/26/2008 10:49
Now thats dedication.

and who wins in the longrun? we doooooooo
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Mirax at 11/26/2008 11:00
Wow, that's really good to hear. Ocarina Of Time is my favorite game ever, and I actually thought that Wind Waker was very close to it in terms of quality, but hey, if they want to make good games, i'm all for it.

Also, as people said above, a steampunk Zelda title would be VERY cool.
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MisterMingo at 11/26/2008 11:01
Just do Wind Waker again with a motorized boat, bigger islands, and no fetch quest. That'd be enough for me.
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ender_x at 11/26/2008 11:01
I'd give my left testicle for him to give it to somebody else. And to another system. if zelda/link was done in the same way the new tomb raider is?? man, that'd rock. asassins creed-like controls are ALREADY a staple of zelda, so imagine on a real system with hardware to back it up.
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DanGale at 11/26/2008 11:17
I hope I never live to see a futuristic Zelda...
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falinter at 11/26/2008 11:24
Good luck dude. Epic game is epic.
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Grasshopper7 at 11/26/2008 11:29
Steampunk Zelda? It's so crazy it just might work! There could be a nature over industry vibe that would justify Link riding his horse everywhere when better technology exists and some interesting steampunk machinery based puzzles.
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Yellowdog at 11/26/2008 11:37
I loved Twilight Princess. I loved Wind Waker. I loved Oracle of Ages. I loved Oracle of Seasons. I loved Link's Awakening. I loved Phantom Hourglass. I loved Minish Cap.

I hated Link to the Past, and I <i>really</i> hated Ocarina of Time.
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jackal27 at 11/26/2008 11:39
I personally think that Wind Waker surpassed Ocarina. I just think that the fact that we had already played Ocarina when we played Wind Waker and Twilight hinders our ability to see that they are superior games.
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The-Excel at 11/26/2008 11:46
Good for him that he's so motivated to perfect his works, but I want to see him put that mentality to work on a new series, the first game of which is better than Ocarina. It can't be the best game ever made forever.
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Matthew Blake at 11/26/2008 12:07
I still think Wind Waker is better than Ocarina. Majora's Mask was brilliant, but also frustratingly difficult for me. As pretty as Twilight Princess looked, I didn't like it as much as Wind Waker. I wonder how much of the praise Ocarina gets is derived from the fact that we keep adding it to our top 100 list over and over again. Do we add it to the list because we like it, or do we like it because it's on the list? I certainly remember being bombarded by gaming magazines with praise for Ocarina when I was just getting started in gaming. Surely that has to have some influence, doesn't it?
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Yellowdog at 11/26/2008 12:10
I think it's impossible to make a game that will be considered better than OoT. A new game wouldn't have out of control nostalgia going for it. It also probably won't be as revolutionary, as it won't have taken Zelda from 2D to 3D. It also won't be able to please the rabid OoT fanboys.
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Brando at 11/26/2008 12:17
He already made that game, it's called Majora's Mask, the only Zelda game after OoT that actually requires skill and thinking. Also, I never understand all the WW love on this site. Yes, its very pretty and has a great atmosphere, but sailing + too many stealth sequences + was never in danger of dying once + easy puzzles = fail in my book.
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DanGale at 11/26/2008 12:18
That picture makes me want Wind Waker in wide-screen. Wiiport maybe?
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braulio09 at 11/26/2008 12:39
hmmm i always thhought he was the main man in just MM and TP....

gonna have to read up on this
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Kyousuke Nanbu at 11/26/2008 14:00
Franchise is gonna need a bit of revamp for that, its beyond stale at this point.
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zanthox at 11/26/2008 14:07
Windwaker really was a great game, and I thought that twilight princess came veeery close to OoT, but I'm kinda glad it didn't cuz it gives us the promise of more and more hard work on the series instead of it just being marketed like how Nintendo does their consoles nowadays...
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MotoRobo at 11/26/2008 14:36
Love of Ocarina's largely nostalgia-factor for folks who hadn't played Zelda before. The only way he could surpass it is w/new game mechanics and he has barely meddled w/Zelda's formula. Might as well release 1 a year for all the improvements made and content added. The second time getting a bomb in the dungeon that has barricades only a bomb can destroy can't be as impactful as the first.
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gamadaya at 11/26/2008 14:52
By that logic, shouldn't he have stopped right after Majora's Mask?
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Springsteen at 11/26/2008 14:55
Well, let's see what he manages to do this time around with the actual Wii Zelda. Maybe they will actually achieve intuitive, fun and realistic sword-fighting in games, just like OoT made 3D action plausible. Afterall, let's face it, and I'm sorry steam-punk-zelda-wishers, Zelda is medieval by nature. Making it too different would be somewhat dumb. I'm all for a new IP with the setting and Zelda elements, but mixing too much lends to losing the spirit of things.

Somehow I wish the new Zelda was delayed so much that it would actually have to be released for the Wii 2, making it possible that the team lent to it thinking, effort and passion enough to make the true OoT surpasser. Such title that could only be achieved by promoting a gaming revolution just like OoT. Besides, it's not like we NEED a new Zelda every 3 years. The series is so adored and highly praised that it was, at least to me, taken to a different level. I'm willing to wait as long as it takes for a brilliant new Zelda that manages to present such greatness that really maskes it stand apart from anything else in the industry. Remember, there were 7 years beetwen A Link to the Past and Ocarina of Time. 2011 seems a good time for a new Zelda, released a while after Wii 2.

In another interview of his it seemed as Twilight Princess was kind of a make-or-break for the company, with the risky release of the Wii and having its entire development cycle through the dim year of the withering GameCube. With enough money and time I believe he will be able to surpass OoT.

It's not like there are not portables and spin-offs to keep us occupied until then.
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Monodi at 11/26/2008 15:50
@Springsteen

The only problem is we are impatient as FUCK, mainly when its up on a new Zelda game AND its over a year of difference for release. Hell I am aching for the AstroBoy movie and its 11 months away. Jesus.
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DanGale at 11/26/2008 16:26
@MotoRobo

"Might as well release 1 a year "

Please don't tease. My poor little Zelda loving heart couldn't take all that awesome.
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Dexter345 at 11/26/2008 21:29
Wind Waker was already better than Ocarina. Mission accomplished!
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Rider Chop at 11/27/2008 03:57
if only the boys at Sonic Team had that kind of motivation.
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jrwolv at 11/27/2008 09:03
I think wind waker may have been better than OoT, Same as TP. I get this warm feeling going to the village in windwaker and the cool visuals. TP just seemed so fresh, never playing a game like that..... Then again I was six when I played OoT....
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