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What is the purpose of doing so? XBL isn't a dating site. I don't care if another gamer is gay or not, this is pointless.
I hope they don't attempt to talk to the NAACP to try and get clearance for the word ni**er.
....That word makes Kryp cry and Hulk Smash.
Also, when was saying Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, Transgendered and Straight not okay? Microsoft needs to chill the fuck out.
....That word makes Kryp cry and Hulk Smash.
Also, when was saying Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, Transgendered and Straight not okay? Microsoft needs to chill the fuck out.
This is great to hear. From what I've been hearing from the XBL community of the last few years pretty much everybody is gay and everybody knows everyone is gay because everyone calls everyone gay.
@FearNoDarkness:
And I guess people won't be using it as a dating site either. But it's about being able to express yourself, and not get banned because you say you're gay or lesbian, which is just stupid.
Xbox live isn't a phonebook either, but should you get banned for saying your phone number?
And I guess people won't be using it as a dating site either. But it's about being able to express yourself, and not get banned because you say you're gay or lesbian, which is just stupid.
Xbox live isn't a phonebook either, but should you get banned for saying your phone number?
Will I be allowed a LIVE profile called XBOXUSERSAREGAY?
What about Homo? That's a fairly unoffensive term, i want a profile called Homo-Panda or something.
there's someone on the toid with a wicked username, snatch something. Can't remember, but I love it.
I've got a PSN firend with the coolest username I've ever seen....
Butthymen
I literally laughed out loud just typing it.
What about Homo? That's a fairly unoffensive term, i want a profile called Homo-Panda or something.
there's someone on the toid with a wicked username, snatch something. Can't remember, but I love it.
I've got a PSN firend with the coolest username I've ever seen....
Butthymen
I literally laughed out loud just typing it.
Microsoft has delivered this thrust to homophobes, who will no doubt be feeling the blow for years to come.
Fear No Darkness:
I think the point is that Microsoft really has nothing to lose by allowing the terms, and can only stand to gain a bit of respect from the LGBT community. The point is, it was such a needless and silly thing to ban, just as you think it's a needless and silly thing to allow. I'd rather have a silly thing allowed than a silly thing banned, at any rate.
TheJesusNinja26:
You fail to appreciate irony. I didn't use Obama because I think he's pro-gay, I used Obama because the idea of him giving a thumbs-up to Microsoft allowing gay terms on Xbox Live is amusing.
I think the point is that Microsoft really has nothing to lose by allowing the terms, and can only stand to gain a bit of respect from the LGBT community. The point is, it was such a needless and silly thing to ban, just as you think it's a needless and silly thing to allow. I'd rather have a silly thing allowed than a silly thing banned, at any rate.
TheJesusNinja26:
You fail to appreciate irony. I didn't use Obama because I think he's pro-gay, I used Obama because the idea of him giving a thumbs-up to Microsoft allowing gay terms on Xbox Live is amusing.
Was it really that hard to do, and did it really have to take this long to be revised? I mean, of course it's respectful, though unprecedented (since I thought it was dropped a while ago and they were just gonna be douchebags about it, something I was ready to not put past them), but it honestly doesn't take effort, or counseling, or community input, or polls, or whatever the fuck they did, to figure out it's a good idea. It should have just been "Oh shit, we fucked up, I'm sorry about that, here's a revision. We're cool now, right?" instead of "Oh shit, we made a mistake somewhere and now we have to figure out what we did wrong. Okay, done, I think we're cool now."
Ah. GLEAM Gay and Lesbian Employees at Microsoft. They're some great people. I met a few of them at a corporate GLBT conference in Washington DC and Austin, TX the past few years. I work for another corporation that attends those conferences as well. It was always odd to me, this Xbox Live mess. Microsoft is such a gay-friendly company. I love when the Evangelicals are like "We're going to boycott MS because they support gay rights!" Good luck telling your boss at work that you refuse to use Windows. Oh and don't think getting a Mac is anymore heterosexual >.>
Wahoo! People can now put that they're gay on XBL!
I might go tell people all about my girlfriend and how my parents met and the diameter of my ear canal. This stuff is important, especially when video gaming.
I might go tell people all about my girlfriend and how my parents met and the diameter of my ear canal. This stuff is important, especially when video gaming.
@Strandli
If I saw somebody giving out their phone number on XBL I would have mighty high suspicions of that person and if not a ban I'd definitely call for some kind of investigation. I get your point but that was a terrible example.
@Jesus H Christ
lulz
If I saw somebody giving out their phone number on XBL I would have mighty high suspicions of that person and if not a ban I'd definitely call for some kind of investigation. I get your point but that was a terrible example.
@Jesus H Christ
lulz
@Fear No Darkness - Just think about it in a different way. So Mario identifies as a plumber, right? It's part of his identity and how he thinks about himself. So Mario goes to set up his x-box live profile and puts that he's a plumber, cuz hey, he likes plumbing and to him it's important. Samus doesn't give a shit if Mario's a plumber and neither does Sonic but to Mario it's important. But when Mario puts in that he's a plumber on his profile, the Xblox live gods tell him he can't say that he is a plumber. So now Mario is sad, very very sad. Luckily now he can say he's a plumber, play games with plumbers and non-plumbers alike and he's happy.
OK that analogy went a little far and I personally I'm not about to emblazon my profile with gay-ness cuz that's not at all my style. But I'm glad I could if I wanted to.
OK that analogy went a little far and I personally I'm not about to emblazon my profile with gay-ness cuz that's not at all my style. But I'm glad I could if I wanted to.
Not to spoil the lovefest but everyone is glossing over one important fact here:
This is teaching Gays that they can puff their chest enough and get their way.
You shouldn't reward a child who is being a BRAT just because you want them to shut up, it sends the wrong message.
And that's not a knock against gays at all, its against the people who bent over(oop) and took it from the few gays making a big stink(hurr).
This is teaching Gays that they can puff their chest enough and get their way.
You shouldn't reward a child who is being a BRAT just because you want them to shut up, it sends the wrong message.
And that's not a knock against gays at all, its against the people who bent over(oop) and took it from the few gays making a big stink(hurr).
Xzyliac:
Yeaaah... I noticed that right after posting. Let's try something again:
XBL isn't a cooking show, but would you be banned for giving tips on how to cook a meal?
There, better? Hope it is, although slightly irrelevant. Meh, can't please everyone.
Yeaaah... I noticed that right after posting. Let's try something again:
XBL isn't a cooking show, but would you be banned for giving tips on how to cook a meal?
There, better? Hope it is, although slightly irrelevant. Meh, can't please everyone.
"What is the purpose of doing so? XBL isn't a dating site. I don't care if another gamer is gay or not, this is pointless."
I agree that I don't care how adults choose to couple while I'm playing videogames, but I also agree that if LIVE users want to tell us whether or not they're SLGB or T they should be freely allowed to.
That's all these new terms permit, which sounds fair enough to me.
I agree that I don't care how adults choose to couple while I'm playing videogames, but I also agree that if LIVE users want to tell us whether or not they're SLGB or T they should be freely allowed to.
That's all these new terms permit, which sounds fair enough to me.
Did they unban users with "gay" in their gamertag? because it would be incredibly duplicitous if they didn't.
@Adam11
I don't see why someone would feel the need to announce that they're either a plumber or gay. You don't know people through xbox live, and any that you do know on it you know outside of it. I really like rowing, like it's my life, but if microsoft said they didn't want personal stuff like that and to keep it more impersonal or about gaming then I wouldn't be bothered.
On top of that I can completely see why they did it. Having stuff like that on your profile is just going to mark you as a target for homophobes or whatever, and next thing we know Fox/Daily Mail/whatever has another article on cyber bullying.
I don't see why someone would feel the need to announce that they're either a plumber or gay. You don't know people through xbox live, and any that you do know on it you know outside of it. I really like rowing, like it's my life, but if microsoft said they didn't want personal stuff like that and to keep it more impersonal or about gaming then I wouldn't be bothered.
On top of that I can completely see why they did it. Having stuff like that on your profile is just going to mark you as a target for homophobes or whatever, and next thing we know Fox/Daily Mail/whatever has another article on cyber bullying.
@Sexualchocolate
"Will I be allowed a LIVE profile called XBOXUSERSAREGAY?"
That depends. If you were asked what this name represents, would it be:
A) A statement of homosexual pride in the XBox user community?
or
B) A childish affront to XBox users?
Clue: It's what most of your comments on Destructoid represent.
Another clue: It's not A.
"Will I be allowed a LIVE profile called XBOXUSERSAREGAY?"
That depends. If you were asked what this name represents, would it be:
A) A statement of homosexual pride in the XBox user community?
or
B) A childish affront to XBox users?
Clue: It's what most of your comments on Destructoid represent.
Another clue: It's not A.
I could careless is someone prefers sausage or tacos but why do the sausage lovers feel the need to throw it my face constantly? You mind your own business and I'll mind mine.
Wow, I'm actually genuinely proud of Microsoft for this. It's little steps like this that work toward widespread progress. Good way to start out the day!
Oh yeah, this will make a huge fucking difference in the level of tolerance and openness on Xbox Live. Also, there will be assless chaps for your avatar.
The old policy was basically the equivalent of Don't Ask, Don't Tell. About time the world was rid of that blemish too.
@Captainbus
B B B B B B B!
Did i get it right? Can I haz homophobic anti Microshaft gamertagz?
Reminds me of when a buddy made me go back to MW2 for an evening so i changed my clan tag to [MAG>] - you wouldn't beleive the shit i got off people. Almost as much as when it was just [RAPE] - people loved that one.
B B B B B B B!
Did i get it right? Can I haz homophobic anti Microshaft gamertagz?
Reminds me of when a buddy made me go back to MW2 for an evening so i changed my clan tag to [MAG>] - you wouldn't beleive the shit i got off people. Almost as much as when it was just [RAPE] - people loved that one.
People here are right: They don't need to know that somebody is gay. The point is, however, that they don't need to not know, either.
Tried to link to the bit where Sealab is watching Will and Grace and it just says "gay gay gay gay gay gay gay" but this is appropriate too.
Actually, i'm not sure how i feel about this. Although the draconian system of simply banning sexuality outright does seem kind of fucked, it kind of works. But then so does communism.
I imagine we're going to see an influx of homophobic xbl videos being posted.
Actually, i'm not sure how i feel about this. Although the draconian system of simply banning sexuality outright does seem kind of fucked, it kind of works. But then so does communism.
I imagine we're going to see an influx of homophobic xbl videos being posted.
Yay tolerance! Boo-urns XBox Live players! So many of them are so friggin' obnoxious.
@HoodedMiracle
If you're a male and hang out with real lesbians... no, you know, keep thinking a lesbian is just a girl that makes out with other girls to get guys to notice them. Who am I to spoil your fantasy?
@HoodedMiracle
If you're a male and hang out with real lesbians... no, you know, keep thinking a lesbian is just a girl that makes out with other girls to get guys to notice them. Who am I to spoil your fantasy?
Fantastic news. I just fear about the community backlash from Xbox Live's largely insincere, internet-anonymous population, and how these fuckwads are going to start treating clearly-labeled gay gamers.
@ TheJesusNinja26: Obama is pro gay rights. It's just not popular for him to say so right now. Liberals are pro gay rights, because they tend to not be imbeciles that actually give a crap what other people do with their lives.
@Jim: And I think it's a great contrast and homage to the soon to be repealed "don't ask don't tell policy", so our gay men and woman who serve for us who equal rights as everyone else. I guess you weren't going for that though.
@Jim: And I think it's a great contrast and homage to the soon to be repealed "don't ask don't tell policy", so our gay men and woman who serve for us who equal rights as everyone else. I guess you weren't going for that though.
I really fail to see how this is going to bring about any kind of tolerance. It's a big PR move for MS, and nothing else. Why on earth would a legitimately gay/lesbian/transgender/bisexual/pomo "other" person want to hang out with the 16 year-old, southern pseudomasculine bros in the first place?
I usually just tell them I'm gay to piss them off. Now I don't have to verbally antagonize them - my profile will do it for me.
This is a pointless move. Nobody has ever accomplished positive results by beating somebody over the head with their point of view. The XBL punks won't tolerate or appreciate anybody different unless they actually live with them. And XBL is about the farthest venue from reality.
I usually just tell them I'm gay to piss them off. Now I don't have to verbally antagonize them - my profile will do it for me.
This is a pointless move. Nobody has ever accomplished positive results by beating somebody over the head with their point of view. The XBL punks won't tolerate or appreciate anybody different unless they actually live with them. And XBL is about the farthest venue from reality.
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