*goes back to free minecraft
I would kind of want this to be fair. Just to have splitscreen and to have in the living room. But $20 is too fucking much imo.
Well played Mojang. Well played.
There ought to be a picture of Homer Simpson laughing at the player for paying for something that s/he could be playing for free serving as one of Minecraft's Achievements badges.
to all the people saying how it's a ripoff or how you've been swindled because (supposedly) your HIGH DEFINITION console requires HIGH DEFINITION tv to play in coop - you didn't buy this game, you probably don't even own 360, you're just bitter because 360 got another hit.
before the same people were lamenting that you had to move your ass for 5 seconds to switch the disc in Max Payne 3 ONCE. apparently only minority of people don't own stadium-size rooms with JumboTron as tv screen that's half a mile from our couch.
no they're lamenting that you need HIGH DEFINITION TV to play HIGH DEFINITION game on console build with HIGH DEFINITION in mind from the ground, in splitscreen. weren't you guys bitching about Wii being NOT HIGH DEFINITION and hence not being next-gen or how Wii games looked like crap because they're not in HIGH DEFINITION, cause HIGH DEFINITION means everything in gaming now.
or how PS3 is better console cause it has BLURAY - you know, the HIGH DEFINITION video format.
Having said that I'm really enjoying the trial version. I'm using it to teach my girlfriend how to play first person games. Lovely music + simple and cute graphics = non-threatening environment. At least, until nightfall...
First off, you should ALL have a HDTV or looking to get one by now. What's the point of having a HD console if your crappy TV is just gonna make the graphics come out blurry
Secondly, I HATE split screen, the little screens are so tiny and in a game like this you need to pay attention to the surroundings.
Oh, and LOL at the PC gamers who are butthurt because a game originally for the PC. The first Call of Duty was originally just for the PC, same with the first Battlefield. This stuff happens, you pricks, DEAL WITH IT.
Not all of us can afford an HDTV and can only buy games on occasion. This happened to be one of them for me. As for me personally split screen is a big deal because it is actually nice to be able to play a game, such as Minecraft, in the same room with another person rather than talking to them through a headset. That is why its a big deal. I can understand why you'd hate it, even I get annoyed by the size of the screen sometimes, but alas it is fun to be able to share a TV with a friend, or in my case my girlfriend, and play a game together. Yes even I am looking into an HDTV, but I can't afford it and am stuck with the TV I've had since high school, which by the way doesn't make the graphics blurry, in fact they're really good on it. But the simple split-screen limitation on the xbox version really hurts the value of the game to me and makes me personally feel like I've thrown away $20 on a game I already had on PC in the first place. But I purchased it anyway because I wanted to be able to play Minecraft on split-screen with my girlfriend only to find out I can't, unless I shell out even more money on a HDTV I can't even afford.
Can anyone even think of another 360 game (XBLA/XBLIG/GoD/etc.) which doesn't allow for splitscreen based on resolution?
It is so unheard of that no one would even think to look for it as a thing and the description on Xbox.com sure as fuck doesn't have a big fat '*HDTV Required' listed anywhere on the feature sheet.
How in the hell does 4J Studios even begin to think that it's acceptable to do something like that on a platform which ships with goddamn composite cables in the box?
This dumbassery doesn't even effect me but I just can not understand how this gets through Mojang AND 4J AND Microsoft when supporting SD is part of the bloody spec.
And yeah it isn't about who can afford what but rather not letting SD users know BEFORE they made the purchase. So, so dumb.
BECAUSE EVERYONE HAS A BLOODY HDTV BY NOW SINCE NO ONE HAS BEEN MAKING SDTVs FOR THE PAST 5 YEARS!
YOU BOUGHT A BLOODY H-I-G-H D-E-F-I-N-I-T-I-O-N SYSTEM THAT WAS PRODUCED SINCE 2005 AND ADVERTISED AS H-I-G-H D-E-F-I-N-I-T-I-O-N SYSTEM.
And, once again, this isn't about SD vs. HD but rather a matter of not properly informing people and it's potentially even false advertising.
People are already receiving refunds, well points, from Microsoft so they obviously know that it's a fuck-up on their end. People are already filing BBB complaints and I wouldn't be surprised to hear about some legal mumbo-jumbo siting 'False Advertising' or 'Bait and Switch'.
Microsoft, 4J, and Mojang need to get on this before it gets worse despite what anyone thinks about who can buy what kind of TV and when.
If everyone has an HDTV then why would the game specify, "If you play this game in High Definition mode, you can have up to four players in split-screen on the same console". Assuming your assumption is correct,"BECAUSE EVERYONE HAS A BLOODY HDTV BY NOW SINCE NO ONE HAS BEEN MAKING SDTVs FOR THE PAST 5 YEARS!" then why bother specifying that you need to play in HD in order to play in split-screen mode? A strange thing to put on the loading screen of your game, as done by 4J Studios, if everyone does in fact own an HDTV. I of course to do not have an HDTV, because as before mentioned I cannot afford one. Though I must be in the minority and just throwing a pity party for myself seeing as I'm not as fortunate as others, such as yourself, to own a HDTV. If that is the case than I apologize for griping a little bit for not being able to access the full content of what I paid for, seeing as it is for the split-screen that I even purchased this version of the game in the first place.
The simple fact that it is an issue brought up by others, rather than just myself, shows that in fact not everyone, as you so boldly pointed out, does not own an HDTV. Secondly, if it is fact a "High Definition System", where are my HDMI cables? I don't recall opening the box when I received my Xbox 360 and seeing any such cables. As CrazyCowboyDon pointed out, the system does ship with composite cables.
And I apologize for seeming like a jerk, as I'm not trying, nor intend to do so. It just the fact I was screwed out of my money that has ticked me off quite a bit.
I can play split-screen games on my Wii in STANDARD DEF. I can play split-screen PS3 games in STANDARD DEF. I can play the few 360 games that have split-screen in STANDARD DEF.
The fact that you need to have an HDTV to play this in co-op is unacceptable. This isn't the N64 where you needed to buy an expansion pack or something stupid like that.
so yeah, this "drama" is ridiculous and just makes you guys look stupid.
If you can't afford a 200-300 HDTV when it's NOT on sale why are you playing with current generation consoles? (seriously, my brother got a 50 something inch samsung for like 250 at some scratch and dent place because it was a display TV and had a knick on the TV stand). You can find HDTVs extremely cheap now.
These consoles have been out for years now, they themselves weren't exactly cheap when they started and just like they've gotten cheaper so have HDTVs. Terrible excuse.
Secondly, we don't know what's happening behind the scenes in this. HDMI transfers digital information and not analog and I can practically guarantee that the engine may not have been able to send that kind of information via an analog signal.
Whine more though because it's hilarious.
Also, Sofik, you're an idiot, and this level of trolling is below even you.
"Hey man, since I totally have money to throw around, you should too! After all I DO have perfect clarity concerning your individual financial situations, so therefor I should be perfectly able to tell YOU how to spend YOUR money."
Since some people don't seem to understand, let me make this a bit clearer: These other people are not you. You have NO IDEA what sort of financial situation some people are in, so screaming "OLOLOLO SHUT UP AND BUY A 300$ TV, IT'S EASY." is beyond pointless, it's absolutely rude.
For all you know, you could be talking to a teenager without a job, or someone who's just been laid off and has a few MS points to spend, or someone who's received their console as a gift. for some people, saying "Just shell out the 300 dollars, it's easy!" could easily translate to "Just stop eating and driving to work for two weeks, it's easy!"
This is coming from someone who has no interest in the 360 version (PC is just fine, kthnx) and has recently purchased a 32" plasma screen TV. (AFTER being stuck with a 9" box TV with a built-in VCR for almost 15 years.) Life isn't always easy, and splurging on a 20$ game you can play with friends is far more practical than shoving 300$ into Bestbuy for a new TV. Personally? I'd be pissed too. Especially since I started gaming in the PS1/N64 era where splitscreen was the norm. Locking 2-player splitscreen behind 25$ worth of subscription fees is beyond unacceptable.
I think the music is a lot of the reason I've been sucked in. I typically have very bad ADD, especially since I haven't refilled my prescription in a while but the music does a lot to "tame" my mind. I get in a rhythm of digging/planning to do something and then the music snatches all the extra thoughts I have and before I know it I've been playing for 2 or 3 hours.
Fair point, but gaming isn't exactly the cheapest hobby around if you're on a tight budget. I have a year-round membership to a climbing gym around here for ~10 dollars a month and I go like 2 or 3 days a week depending on my schedule. Not only is that cheaper than my gaming habit by far, it also keeps me in shape.
I'm not saying that everyone should go out and climb, but if you want gaming to be a hobby I'd assume you'd want to be able to fund it well without over-extending yourself, and this is also coming from someone who had a standard definition TV set for a while.
Makes sense to me at least.
Sure, a lot of us have HDTVs by now, but no one really expects one to be a necessity to enjoy a feature of the game they just bought.
The fact that you find it hilarious that some of us can't even afford a $200-$300 HDTV is hilarious with you because not everyone can afford an HDTV just shows the lack of humanity and compassion, as well as the fact that you are simply a jerk. My parents only recently in the past few months were able to get a HDTV after the TV they've had for 13 years stopped working. In fact most if not all of the people I know only recently bought HDTVs, or even still use HDTVs, as well because where I live we don't upgrade unless we have to or its within our budget.
Even I have a gym membership and pay a similar price to stay in shape, but that does not change the fact that I still cannot afford a new TV. and I get maybe one game on my 360 a year. In fact the only reason I have this console is because my parents were kind enough to buy it for me. and I'm perfectly aware SDTVs aren't being made anymore. I've had the same one since high-school and the fact that everyone is degrading it to me just being dramatic are most likely spoiled and have everything handed to them. I'm so sorry I wasn't as fortunate as the rest of you to be able to go out and splurge on a brand new HDTV, even if it was on a discount. In fact even when I do come close to having the money something more important than a stupid HDTV comes up for me to have use that money on.
I'm not on a crusade here,but I still play games on a SDTV and cannot play my purchase of Minecraft in split screen because I did not have the knowledge prior to purchase that I would require an HDTV in order to play this game. In fact if its not that big of a deal that this game requires HDTV to do so and that everyone has an HDTV then why are games still being made where you can play them on SDTVs? Curious...
I'm glad this sold well, but I'll be lubing my wallet's asshole for the time being just in case.
Seriously, if you are using price as the excuse for not having an HDTV then you really aren't looking for one because they are ridiculously cheap now.
Fuck you, and people like you. What a daft and self centred thing to say. You could put that to fucking anything. If Bioshock Infinite(or something you do care about) released at 33% above the going rate(1600 points vs 1200) purely because it could, would you be saying "welp, shucks, let me just take this random price hike in the ass like a good boy"?
I agree with Rev, and I really wish I didn't. But slamming the price up did fuck all to it's sales, in fact it actually broke all records.
That right there is a green light to every asshole on the money in gaming, watch.
Where the fuck is a pissed off Jim Sterling when you need him? Too bust being a pundit to take a stab at being a journalist.

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