No BC!? Good day to you sir. I SAID GOOD DAY!

I use my PS3 as a media server, so to have this is a crucial bit of good news I would take into account once I can justify getting a second one.

Really Sony I'm still waiting for a $200 price point. I can go get a second blu Ray player for $98. I'm wanting the whole package obviously, but $300 is a price where I got to sit and REALLY justify it.

That screw is a bitch to get out. One of my friends grinded his up so bad he will never be able to take out the HDD

Heres a pic of the new HDD opening.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2009/08/ps3-slim-unboxing2-dsc_0050-rm-eng.jpg

WHAT IS SO GREAT ABOUT BC!?!

I'm not "teh hrdcore" so I've been trying to keep my mouth shut but with the one exception of the one guy who said his DualShock 2 can't reach his friggin' couch no one has seemed to provide any reason at all. None! Other than "I want it!"

I want it to cost $199 and come with a copy of Heavy Rain. Does that justify me to complain about it?

If that's your reason than great. Don't buy it. But why keep bringing it up?

WHAT IS SO GREAT ABOUT BC!?!

I'm not "teh hrdcore" so I've been trying to keep my mouth shut but with the one exception of the one guy who said his DualShock 2 can't reach his friggin' couch no one has seemed to provide any reason at all. None! Other than "I want it!"

I want it to cost $199 and came with a copy of Heavy Rain. Does that justify me to complain about it?

If that's your reason than great. Don't buy it. But why keep bringing it up?

Xzyliac: I have a launch pal ps3 with partial BC and I have only used it once. But that's mainly because all of my ps2 games are in my ps2's hard drive ;)

I don't understand why they couldn't have given us backwards compatibility since the productions costs are now "so low"

I can't get enough of BC, I live in BC for crying out loud.

I LOVESSSSS British Columbia!

Quadruple post? 0.o

@Xzyliac "WHAT IS SO GREAT ABOUT BC!?!":

1. It's the best-selling PC game of 2007.

2. Competitors (Nintendo and Microsoft) all support backwards compatability to various extents.

2. Statistically, there are more PS2 games floating around than there are Gamecube and original Xbox. This is the one console that should be backwards compatible.

3. Everything about the PS3 has gotten cheaper and easier to produce, apparently. Hence price cuts and a new model. This hasn't happened with BC technology? There are rumors of it even being done through a simple firmware update. How much would a lousy patch cost Sony? How difficult is an announcement, for Sony to say "Hey guys, get a PS3 slim! We're not adding BC with this update, but we're working on it for certain!"

I can get into more depth if that's not enough. We'll talk brand loyalty and customer validation, to which backwards compatability is a central part.

Also, my reply was directed to arsenic

@MountainGorilla
All very valid points but easily solved with one cheap purchase.

I'm not arguing Sony shouldn't have BC. What I'm arguing is why is that the focal point of so many complaints? It's such a tiny thing. I'm more concerned about overheating and shit like that than BC.

BC will be added eventually via a Firmware update. Which has been obvious since Sony filed patents on software that did exactly that, ala:

http://www.ps3attitude.com/new/2009/06/sony-patent-emotion-engine/

So, keep dreaming if you think they're coming out with another SKU that has the actual PS2 chipset inside. Should've gotten one at launch like I did.

Well, it's still compatable with PS1 games so it's good enough for me! Who's with me?

*cough*

Again valid points but not that important. Still sounds whiney. True but whiney.

And all I want is for Sony to say "We're working on it and will have BC out shortly, via firmware or whatever," rather than waiting until two weeks before it comes out to even acknowledge it (like this new model). If anybody has a link to that, I'll buy my Slim on Septic-ember 1st.

The reason it should be a bigger concern than BC is because upgrading the hard drive is looking toward the future of the platform, while backwards compatibility is clinging to the past.

@MountainGorilla: Sony is only recently turning a small profit on their PS3 sales, which is why they can make a slim model with a few upgrades. Its still not enough to cover all of their financial issues though. For years the PS3 was a burden due to its high production cost.

The PS2 on the other hand is selling like there is no tomorrow, showing little signs of slowing down, which means it is saving Sony in terms of hardware sales. Basically PS2 units would have to drop dramatically in demand, for Sony to be convinced to add BC to PS3. They can do it, but there is way too much money to be made on PS2's.

The biggest reason why I like BC on my PS3s is the fact that you can save game data onto the hard drive and never worry about memory cards.

Having less wiring to play games is better if it is unavoidable

(This is my first post btw)

Sony encourages this?! That's surprising. I wish it was that easy for the 360, then no one would have to pay $140 ($160 after taxes) for a 120GB hard drive.

While i myself have got the Launch 60GB PS3 with the Emotion Engine PS2 hardware built in. I'm also well aware that the PS2 is still selling as they're bringing games out for it. So in a way to increase profits you'd think they'd add BC because of the simple fact that the PS2 is THE highest selling video game console that we've seen, with 10 years under it's belt the PS2 is still great. So why not add BC to help increase the amount of sells the PS3 would have? It makes no buisness sense to say the least. My sister-in-law wanted a PS3 from watching me play games like inFAMOUS, MGS4, and a few others and she didn't want any of the new consoles, reason being is that she has a library of PS2 titles that she wanted to play so i had to search hard to find a 60GB PS3 with the full BC.

If the PS2 itself is what $99? Now the PS3 is $300 i think they could afford to install BC if they really tried or wanted to even via firmware update. Isn't that what they did when they brought dual shock back? They did a firmware update so that the previous games that didn't have vibration functionality would have it. So we'll see if they think that it's a smart buisness move.

Also i got rid of my PS2 when GameStop was having this "Trade in your PS2 and get $100 off your PS3." So i got the launch 60GB which was at $600 for $500 before taxes of course lol. The PS2 i had was just about done anyway, it's DVD tray was going out and figured better upgrade before it goes caput on me lol, anyway i think the PS3 will eventually win this console war but we got to just be paitent and see what Sony cooks up in it's firmware updates.....

I have the now extinct 80gig model with BC, so I can live with the phatty PS3. It's basically like having the PS2 slim and PS33 slim stacked on top of each other. And I don't have to fire up 2 different consoles! THAT'S why BC is both awesome, and worth complaining about Sony removing from there latest models.

It's not the fact that there isn't BC that irks me, it's the fact that there was BC that functioned just fine, and then it was taken away.

@Mornelithe:

The problem with your argument is that that technology is already used in Singstar where you can swap out the disks and play PS2 Singstar games on your PS3. So there's no guarantee Sony will release a firmware upgrade to allow you free BC. It's much more likely they will add PS2 games to the PS classics section of the PS store.