"They're not officially on the store yet, but you can 'redownload' them"
Nintendo announced that the official way of downloading them is through the settings method of "redownloading them" - they won't actually hit the store until months from now, until they officially hit it.
It's wonky, I know, but hey - http://www.joystiq.com/2011/08/30/psa-the-3ds-ambassador-game-download-process-is-complicated/
Why shouldn't we? Because they're old?
No idea exactly WHAT you're implying here Sterling. Snarky comments mixed up?
Either way, not in Europe yet. Surprise surprise.
He's implying that Nintendo will be charging for games (at a ridiculously uncompetitive price of £5(ish)) that are 15 years old and can be easily obtained for much less elsewhere (see: free). They then have the gall to say that they're "free", and imply that we're getting a great fucking deal. Really, we've just lost out on £100 because they thought dedicated handhelds for the price of £200 + are relevant.
I could see this being forgivable if the eShop was even remotely successful; but it isn't. Nothing on there appeals to me: not the games, not the prices, and not the fucking NES games for Nintendo's benevolent price of "free".
Obtained elsewhere?
You mean illegally? Sure, Nintendo hasn't been the most chaste corporation when it comes to money making schemes, but surely they still reserve the right to charge money for their intellectual property?
Surely you're not suggesting that you're entitled for some reason to obtain licenses to the entire NES library for free?
NINTENDO YOU BENEVOLENT WANKERS.
Play them all and any other NES games for free on your fucking mobile phone.
Why? Because they released them a day early? I wouldn't say that was clueless. It's not exactly as though someone's finger slipped on a keyboard at Nintendo HQ and activated them all like some bungling evil genius.
...although that would be totally hilarious and I wish that was the case.
If you're referring to the manner in which you have to download them, then yeah it's a bit odd. But I think it's mainly because it's the easiest way of doing it for them - automatically tie the downloads to people's accounts. It saves on them having to organise codes (which people could just give away).
Ever tried playing Super Mario Bros on a touchscreen? It's a load of ass!
But isn't that the inherent problem here? It seems nintendo is scared of true innovation for the hardcore crowd. I'm talking a new ip not aimed solely at casual and with a big marketing campaign. When the 3ds launched a lot of my friends who casually play 360 didn't even know it had been released. If nintendo wasn't so adhered to the past they could have used this opportunity to push out some 3dsware instead of relying on old games and their brand name. I thought not having glasses was the main point of the 3ds. So why not push more 3d content?
I would say so, yeah. Nintendo should really be taking strains for people to purchase this console over smartphones or the Vita.
Classing their 15 year old games, which cannot hold a torch to many games, quality wise, and which no-one in their right mind would pay for, as abandonware - or, Hell, just extending the ambassador program to everybody would certainly win them favours.
They should've considered pirating as a viable alternative, as ROMs are readily available, and they don't seem to be doing anything to negate that. I assume that's why you can see so many ROM sites. They've basically given up policing their copyrights on one platform, but then assume that people will pay a ridiculous amount for them on another.
When I can buy some great quality games for under £1 from the App Store, I don't see why Nintentdo think it's good practice to charge 5x that much for an inferior product.
http://icontrolpad.com/
But that's besides the point - you still have to pirate the game on a mobile device unless you legally own it anyways on another system.
Shit, you can put 3,000 NES games and 3,000 Gameboy games on ONE device, with a controller, and beam it to your desktop anytime you want if you really are into tech.
@Lstr
I agree that the way Nintendo is handling it is actually BETTER than Sony's Welcome Back program.
Sony screwed up, through no fault of the consumer, and had a limited offer, where if you didn't redeem your games in time, you were SOL. Now of course those people were morons, and had like 3 weeks to do it, but somehow Sony still looked bad when people complained they didn't have enough time.
Nintendo's method, on the other hand, is genius. They "slipped" them into your account permanently. No ifs ands or buts - if you have an Ambassador unit, you get these games for life. That is of course until your system dies - mwhahahaha.
But doesn't that mean that sony has the better system since if theirs breaks you can just buy another one and still keep your games. If your 3ds breaks you are SOL. Sure nintendo could probably fix this with a software update. But then again this is nintendo we are talking about. Also people always crap on sony for not having cross game chat but we cant even do game invites from the 3ds. The hell is that about.
"They "slipped" them into your account permanently. No ifs ands or buts - if you have an Ambassador unit, you get these games for life. That is of course until your system dies - mwhahahaha."
Exactly, and you've stated the only negative I can see about it - and that's something I hope Nintendo will fix at some point in the future. This way no one can complain that they missed the deadline to download or any such nonsense.
I would say that the way Sony handled the 'welcome back' initiative was somewhat necessitated by the fact that they gave people a choice of games, however.
I think Magnalon was exclusively referring to the actual corporate handling of each situation rather than which online system was better.
What LsTr said: note the "mwahahaha" at the end.
Nintendo has a long way to go, but giving us 20 free games on a permanent account based basis is not a bad thing in the slightest.
They all cost money on the Wii's VC, so how is that not "free" on the 3DS for ambassadors? Some of these games are considered the best of all time, so why shouldn't people pay for them anyway? Just because you might not want to pay for them, doesn't mean Nintendo shouldn't sell them!
"Today is the 15 year anniversary of The Elder Scrolls II: Daggerfall. Download it for free on elderscrolls.com! bit.ly/jxxAAc
- @ElderScrolls
Lulz, why on earth would you want to go and do a silly think like that!? Just get a PSP 3000 and a decent size memory card - they're dirt cheap these days and you'll still be able to play UMD games.
Nintendo 3DS Ambassadors, your games have arrived! Visit http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/systems/3ds/en_na/3dsambassador.jsp?menu=how&submenu=ctr-gi-amb-download-games for info on how to download and start playing.
Leave this pretentious bullshit out next time and you're doing a great job.
"I mean how many times can someone play mario before it gets boring?"
I don't know, dude. I haven't got to this point in the last 25 years...
There are ten more GBA games coming before the end of the year. Not to mention a free ccooy of LoZ four swords.

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