Despite David Jaffe stating he didn't want one, Twisted Metal is getting itself a lovely, shiny, pretty little online pass. Because inconveniencing all your customers is what gaming is all about.
It's absolutely not suprising, because Sony told Destructoid that it planned to put online pass in pretty much every single game it publishes. Nevertheless, I fully intend to post a story for every online pass I see, because it will never become banal or boring to me.
The second it becomes a mundane story, unfit for posting, is the second it becomes acceptable, and I don't think online passes will ever be an acceptable response to the used game market. It's just more controlling, possessive behavior from the corporate equivalent of a jealous husband.
So yeah, Twisted Metal is getting an online pass, and that's rubbish.
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The fact that even Jaffe, one of the most storied Sony developers of all time, doesn't have the power to eliminate it from his own game, however, makes me sad.
Tough Titties.
I don't agree with online passes (I would if retailers dropped their used prices but they haven't) but still, something a little shitty to some, was planned and then happened. Shocker.
While I don't agree with the allround ballache and confusion caused by these stupid passes, I feel "something" should make it back to publishers after a used sale.
We all know how well video game boycotts work!
I'm sick of all the drones who are jumping to defend these corporations because "that's just how business works".
It only works this way if you just roll over and take it.
I completely agree. Twisted Metal is Sony's oldest and longest-running franchise and God Of War was a huge success. In terms of PlayStation franchises, he's a heavy hitter. The new Twisted Metal is his baby and he even he didn't have the power to keep Sony's paws out of it. Very sad indeed.
-Intro paragraph
-Details about game with online pass
-Promise that he will never stop posting about online passes, pissing off haters the world over
-Repeat until the games industry crashes and/or heat death of the universe
I think your tune would be much much different if Microsoft were the ones doing this.
About the article, I never held much interest for the Twisted Metal series so I can safely ignore this game without feeling bad. If there's one company I'm really afraid that may go the "online pass" route, it's Capcom. I have been loving fighting games for the past 2 years and it would suck hard if that ever happened.
Microsoft could do this all day long and still get the very same response from me.
i'm in no way defending Sony for doing this, i think it's a dick move, but I think the reasoning behind it is sound. I would like publishers to get a slice of used game sales, but i'd rather avoid gamers buying a used game for £5 less than a new copy only to get it home and find out they need an £8 pass to get online.
I think an agreement needs to be made between publishers and retailers.
The whole problem with "not buying games with an online pass" is that the pass ystem doesn't effect new purchasers much (apart from the ballache of entering a code) so for a new purchaser to avoid a purchase because of hassle caused to people buying used is a hard sell as far as a boycott of any kind goes.
Maybe the crash of used sales of these games, perhaps a rule where they have to have a sticker saying "single player only without an £8 pass" would help? I don't know.
But I don't HATe companies for doing it, nor do i think they've used a fair method.
It's a whole tough, grey area right now. No matter who's doing it, Sony, Microsoft, EA, any of them. They all need to think of a better way to do this.
On-Line-Pässe machen mich jämmerlich!
David Jaffe is a douchebag.
#ohsnap
#iwentthere
#bonerhashtag
I actually agree that the publishers and retailers should get together and have an agreement on the distribution of used game sales income.
However, I disagree that the new game purchaser isn't being inconvenienced besides entering a dumb code. It may not apply to you, but if I want my sibling/roommate etc who has their own PS3 to play, for example, Uncharted 3 multiplayer, he can't unless he pays $5 or whatever the online pass fee is.
It also inconveniences the new buyer if they're already done with the game and want to sell it, but have to sell it for a lower price because the online pass was already used up.
So it still restricts the new game buyer in some unnecessarily shitty ways. Also, not forgetting that there's also collateral damage towards game rental services when you have to pay $5 on top of the rental fee just to play some Uncharted 3 multiplayer.
I can see why you may still shrug it off, but at least consider those scenarios I've listed above.
Wouldn't it have been so pimp if Jaffe footed the bill for the online pass?
I mean, I would never expect that absurd level of entitlement from anyone, but if he did, that would be really, really badass. Mega-producers like Kojima could probably swing it.
Stop whining. Welcome to what we've been dealing with for almost 20 years.
Sincerely,
PC gamers
Small changes would ensure that the game doesn't overly suffer from the used game market during it's "new release" phase... but at some point you often can't even buy a game new and used is the only way to buy it. There's absolutely no sense in penalizing people then.
If they want to stop seeing profits slip maybe they shouldn't produce shit games.
to be fair, they probably ripped off sweet tooth.
oh, and also, fuck. sticking to my guns will be hard with this one, what with free tm: black and all.
sigh, oh well, i still haven't caved in to bf3, guess i can skip out on twisted metal too i suppose. =-/
hey, who knows, maybe the game will suck anyway.
They hate it as much as we do. Heck, the one closest to my house has a tally behind the front desk that keeps track of how many customers they convinced to buy used copies on games with an online pass. Mostly Sony, THQ and EA games. I get a kick out of seeing how many hundreds of games they rob from online pass obsessed companies.
Me personally, I never buy any game with an online pass. Ever. I used to buy nearly all of my games new, but now I just buy em' used. Heck, saves me a ton of cash so what do I care.
Sincerely,
Everyone who's not a pussy.
Yes, because it's me "taking it up the ass" and not you being an entitled little shit.
You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
Anyway, just another game a publisher has forced my hand on. This one is gonna hurt, but what can you do? You either take a stand against something harmful, or you buy into it and allow it to proliferate. I can't involve myself in that shit, especially with the realization that not even someone like Jaffe can keep his game free of an online pass.
For the record, not only has there been any proof that the used games market harms anything, most all the available information (and, indeed, common sense), overwhelmingly proves it is the exact opposite. Publishers are taking your money on online passes because they can, and nothing more.
Online passes are ridiculous, no matter where they are but sadly they've become a thing and I'm not helping matters cause I enjoy playing video games.
No idea huh? Well until you show me evidence to the contrary, this is just an online pissing match.
How about these numbers (I have no link but just take my word for it) Dead Space sold around or just over 1 million copies on the 360. However, as of about a year or so ago, over 3 million people have played it. Yes its great that people had a chance to play the game but imagine what it would do for the series if even half of those people that bought it used had bought it new. How, in this instance are used game sales helping?
Also, think about this: When Gamestop makes a profit, they buy their competition, make their executives rich, and maybe open another store. When Sony makes a profit, they attempt to get rid of their competition, make their executives rich, and finance games like God of War and Uncharted. Which sounds better to you?
Another thing to keep in mind is even if they were all pirated that doesn't mean they would be bought if they couldn't be pirated. Some people might play Dead Space 2 because it didn't cost them anything, but no way in hell would they pay $60 to try it out.
Guess I'm not going to play the game then. Guess I'm not going to buy any DLC for it either. And suddenly you have a case of an online pass losing a developer money.