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Yep, Twisted Metal is getting an online pass photo

Despite David Jaffe stating he didn't want one, Twisted Metal is getting itself a lovely, shiny, pretty little online pass. Because inconveniencing all your customers is what gaming is all about. 

It's absolutely not suprising, because Sony told Destructoid that it planned to put online pass in pretty much every single game it publishes. Nevertheless, I fully intend to post a story for every online pass I see, because it will never become banal or boring to me.

The second it becomes a mundane story, unfit for posting, is the second it becomes acceptable, and I don't think online passes will ever be an acceptable response to the used game market. It's just more controlling, possessive behavior from the corporate equivalent of a jealous husband. 

So yeah, Twisted Metal is getting an online pass, and that's rubbish.








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Namodacranks's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2012 08:42
Namodacranks
Jefafa
TurboKill's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2012 08:43
TurboKill
Absolutely agreeing with the third paragraph there.
UltorOscariot's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2012 08:44
UltorOscariot
I've got a feeling unfortunately that an online pass may end up being the least of Twisted Metal's problems..
AlphaRedux's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2012 08:44
AlphaRedux
Dark ages indeed.
Termadoyle's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2012 08:45
Termadoyle
Rubbish indeed.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2012 08:49
Chris Carter
People didn't believe me! :D. I think the "free Twisted Metal Black" added by Jaffe was an apology for the pass.

The fact that even Jaffe, one of the most storied Sony developers of all time, doesn't have the power to eliminate it from his own game, however, makes me sad.
Noir's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2012 08:58
Noir
Finkrats!
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2012 09:01
Sexualchocolate
Sony, Jaffe's boss, said passes for all online games.

Tough Titties.


I don't agree with online passes (I would if retailers dropped their used prices but they haven't) but still, something a little shitty to some, was planned and then happened. Shocker.

While I don't agree with the allround ballache and confusion caused by these stupid passes, I feel "something" should make it back to publishers after a used sale.
Jamie McGinn's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2012 09:01
Jamie McGinn
The only that online passes will vanish would be if people stopped buying games that had them.

We all know how well video game boycotts work!
Zerix's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2012 09:02
Zerix
Keep it up Jim.

I'm sick of all the drones who are jumping to defend these corporations because "that's just how business works".

It only works this way if you just roll over and take it.
tomothy25's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2012 09:05
tomothy25
@Magnalon

I completely agree. Twisted Metal is Sony's oldest and longest-running franchise and God Of War was a huge success. In terms of PlayStation franchises, he's a heavy hitter. The new Twisted Metal is his baby and he even he didn't have the power to keep Sony's paws out of it. Very sad indeed.
Smo5000's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2012 09:09
Smo5000
First ACTA and now this. Any "good" news?
Pennywise's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2012 09:12
Pennywise
I agree with Jim on this one and won't be purchasing this, or any other game requiring an online pass.
Janklogs's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2012 09:12
Janklogs
The Jim Sterling method to reporting on online passes

-Intro paragraph
-Details about game with online pass
-Promise that he will never stop posting about online passes, pissing off haters the world over
-Repeat until the games industry crashes and/or heat death of the universe
NotoriousBIG420's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2012 09:20
NotoriousBIG420
It sucks that this will have an online pass but I will be getting it anyway. Twisted Metal holds a special place in my heart.
Ace829's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2012 09:21
Ace829
@SC
I think your tune would be much much different if Microsoft were the ones doing this.

About the article, I never held much interest for the Twisted Metal series so I can safely ignore this game without feeling bad. If there's one company I'm really afraid that may go the "online pass" route, it's Capcom. I have been loving fighting games for the past 2 years and it would suck hard if that ever happened.
Janklogs's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2012 09:31
Janklogs
@Ace: Don't worry. There will always be Namco with Soulcalibur and Tekken. ;)
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2012 09:32
Sexualchocolate
@Ace - I buy 99% of my games new, be they for PS3, Xbox, PSP or PC.

Microsoft could do this all day long and still get the very same response from me.

i'm in no way defending Sony for doing this, i think it's a dick move, but I think the reasoning behind it is sound. I would like publishers to get a slice of used game sales, but i'd rather avoid gamers buying a used game for £5 less than a new copy only to get it home and find out they need an £8 pass to get online.

I think an agreement needs to be made between publishers and retailers.

The whole problem with "not buying games with an online pass" is that the pass ystem doesn't effect new purchasers much (apart from the ballache of entering a code) so for a new purchaser to avoid a purchase because of hassle caused to people buying used is a hard sell as far as a boycott of any kind goes.

Maybe the crash of used sales of these games, perhaps a rule where they have to have a sticker saying "single player only without an £8 pass" would help? I don't know.

But I don't HATe companies for doing it, nor do i think they've used a fair method.

It's a whole tough, grey area right now. No matter who's doing it, Sony, Microsoft, EA, any of them. They all need to think of a better way to do this.
Occams electric toothbrush's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2012 09:32
Occams electric toothbrush


On-Line-Pässe machen mich jämmerlich!
TXYeti's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2012 09:36
TXYeti
Was instead hoping for an article about how Jaffe the ass-hat railed on "patch culture" and whatall a year or two ago and has now announced there will be a day-one patch for TM and that they'd "love to keep updating it" if it's successful enough, or something like that.

David Jaffe is a douchebag.
Mr Andy Dixon's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2012 09:54
Mr Andy Dixon
At what point will Sony's "free online play" start to cost more than Xbox LIVE?

#ohsnap
#iwentthere
#bonerhashtag
Ace829's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2012 09:59
Ace829
@SC
I actually agree that the publishers and retailers should get together and have an agreement on the distribution of used game sales income.

However, I disagree that the new game purchaser isn't being inconvenienced besides entering a dumb code. It may not apply to you, but if I want my sibling/roommate etc who has their own PS3 to play, for example, Uncharted 3 multiplayer, he can't unless he pays $5 or whatever the online pass fee is.

It also inconveniences the new buyer if they're already done with the game and want to sell it, but have to sell it for a lower price because the online pass was already used up.

So it still restricts the new game buyer in some unnecessarily shitty ways. Also, not forgetting that there's also collateral damage towards game rental services when you have to pay $5 on top of the rental fee just to play some Uncharted 3 multiplayer.

I can see why you may still shrug it off, but at least consider those scenarios I've listed above.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2012 10:03
Chris Carter
@Caraleo
Wouldn't it have been so pimp if Jaffe footed the bill for the online pass?

I mean, I would never expect that absurd level of entitlement from anyone, but if he did, that would be really, really badass. Mega-producers like Kojima could probably swing it.
Blake Stone's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2012 10:12
Blake Stone
Dear console gamers,

Stop whining. Welcome to what we've been dealing with for almost 20 years.

Sincerely,
PC gamers
Elsa's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2012 10:14
Elsa
I hate online passes... but can sort of see the reasoning for them. I don't even overly mind the concept, but they need to make changes to make them at all viable (free play up to a certain level so people can check out the online before paying for it (or so people can loan it to a friend or spouse so they can try it out online), and there has to be a point when the online pass is no longer required. At some point after release, the game simply needs new people, they shouldn't have to pay to play if they get the game say 6-9 months after release or something.)
Small changes would ensure that the game doesn't overly suffer from the used game market during it's "new release" phase... but at some point you often can't even buy a game new and used is the only way to buy it. There's absolutely no sense in penalizing people then.
Discount Tent Ed's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2012 10:16
Discount Tent Ed
Online passes are worse than SOPA
Stinky's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2012 10:28
Stinky
Juggalos are ridiculous.
Rainersnow's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2012 11:09
Rainersnow
When I sell my truck used, Toyota doesn't get a cut of the sale. That's what game companies are trying to do with this nonsense.

If they want to stop seeing profits slip maybe they shouldn't produce shit games.
tekbunny's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2012 11:11
tekbunny
@stinky

to be fair, they probably ripped off sweet tooth.

oh, and also, fuck. sticking to my guns will be hard with this one, what with free tm: black and all.

sigh, oh well, i still haven't caved in to bf3, guess i can skip out on twisted metal too i suppose. =-/

hey, who knows, maybe the game will suck anyway.
EKGProd's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2012 11:13
EKGProd
As always, I never buy new any game with an online pass, and all 3 EB game stores by my house go out of their way to make sure they sell used copies of these games, and then tell the customer NOT to buy the online pass when they get home.

They hate it as much as we do. Heck, the one closest to my house has a tally behind the front desk that keeps track of how many customers they convinced to buy used copies on games with an online pass. Mostly Sony, THQ and EA games. I get a kick out of seeing how many hundreds of games they rob from online pass obsessed companies.

Me personally, I never buy any game with an online pass. Ever. I used to buy nearly all of my games new, but now I just buy em' used. Heck, saves me a ton of cash so what do I care.
Zwiki's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2012 11:20
Zwiki
The only online passes I agree with are for Vita games on the PSN. Being able to buy a single-player game for a certain percent off and then buy the multi-player later for that percent off if I want it is a pretty sweet little set-up.
Hugh G Rection's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2012 11:21
Hugh G Rection
Saw that coming. The real question is will it have couch Co-op. or will I need a f**cking pass for that too?
HighWindXIX's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2012 11:30
HighWindXIX
A couple things. First, just buy the game new and stop whining. Second, when a game has an online pass and costs $60 new, GameStop either sells it for $48 used or $55 and prints a free online pass on the receipt. Third, when it comes to who you want to make a profit from you, how the fuck do you want a fucking store to make money instead of the artists that pour their blood, sweat, and tears into a project?! Yes publishers are dicks but they pay the developers and if the publisher makes less profits so do the developers which means less games. So fuck Gamestop. Buy your games new.
Usedtabe's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2012 11:37
Usedtabe
@Blake Stone: Just because you've willingly taken that dick up your ass for 20 years don't mean we will.

Sincerely,

Everyone who's not a pussy.
Stop Spoilers's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2012 11:37
Stop Spoilers
If you guys want to get the games cheaper then wait a couple months. Almost every game except for Nintendo games go down in price in a couple months. Instead of getting it used for 5 dollars off.
Blake Stone's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2012 11:57
Blake Stone
@Usedtabe

Yes, because it's me "taking it up the ass" and not you being an entitled little shit.
SithZombie's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2012 12:00
SithZombie
No thanks
OneRed's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2012 12:13
OneRed
@HighWindXIX

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

Anyway, just another game a publisher has forced my hand on. This one is gonna hurt, but what can you do? You either take a stand against something harmful, or you buy into it and allow it to proliferate. I can't involve myself in that shit, especially with the realization that not even someone like Jaffe can keep his game free of an online pass.

For the record, not only has there been any proof that the used games market harms anything, most all the available information (and, indeed, common sense), overwhelmingly proves it is the exact opposite. Publishers are taking your money on online passes because they can, and nothing more.
Thomas Sargeant's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2012 12:16
Thomas Sargeant
Was genuinely on the fence about this one, was probably going to give it a shot. Not now.
Rodeo Danza's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2012 12:25
Rodeo Danza
I believe in compromise. SOPA isn't compromise, it's an oppression of freedom. Online passes are something I can live with, it's inconvenient but I can understand the mentality behind it. Online passes feel like a compromise to me, I can see that piracy is a problem. Maybe it's because I know a lot of pirates, or maybe it's because other people don't think it happens, but I do believe money is being lost, and I can stomach an inconvenience to help fight theft.
garethxxgod's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2012 12:29
garethxxgod
Since I just got a PS3 my brother gave me his copy of Resistance 3. Guess who had to spend an extra 10$ out of pocket just to use it's online features? This guy.

Online passes are ridiculous, no matter where they are but sadly they've become a thing and I'm not helping matters cause I enjoy playing video games.
Scowlface's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2012 12:45
Scowlface
I'm pretty much done. ME3 will be the last game I buy with an online pass. Us putting up with online passes,on disk dlc, and drm are the reason these game publishers thought they could buy some seats in congress and start telling us how to use the internet.
HighWindXIX's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2012 12:52
HighWindXIX
@OneRed

No idea huh? Well until you show me evidence to the contrary, this is just an online pissing match.

How about these numbers (I have no link but just take my word for it) Dead Space sold around or just over 1 million copies on the 360. However, as of about a year or so ago, over 3 million people have played it. Yes its great that people had a chance to play the game but imagine what it would do for the series if even half of those people that bought it used had bought it new. How, in this instance are used game sales helping?

Also, think about this: When Gamestop makes a profit, they buy their competition, make their executives rich, and maybe open another store. When Sony makes a profit, they attempt to get rid of their competition, make their executives rich, and finance games like God of War and Uncharted. Which sounds better to you?
Usedtabe's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2012 12:52
Usedtabe
@Blake Stone: Glad you figured that out on your own. I'm not entitled, nor am I little. But I do expect to have access to what I pay for, with the only barrier being money exchanging hands. The used game market is the publishers fault, not mine. I have no pity for them, and the fear of publishers failing is nothing to me as other, better ones will take their place. So you keep dick riding and I'll keep badmouthing online passes, we'll see who comes out on top(and not just on a dick).
doomknight66's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2012 12:56
doomknight66
ONLINE PASS ALL THE THINGS
Angry Beaver's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2012 13:12
Angry Beaver
I really hope The Last Guardian won't have any online functionality. If it ever comes out.
Usedtabe's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2012 13:14
Usedtabe
@HighWind: You are assuming that all of those 3 million would have been automatic sales. You are also assuming they are all pirated. Guess what, my wife has her own gamertag so when she plays my copy of Dead Space 2 it doesn't count as a lost sale, yet it qualifies in your retarded "3 million players vs 1 million sold means piracy" theory.

Another thing to keep in mind is even if they were all pirated that doesn't mean they would be bought if they couldn't be pirated. Some people might play Dead Space 2 because it didn't cost them anything, but no way in hell would they pay $60 to try it out.
Corduroy Turtle's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2012 13:15
Corduroy Turtle
In other news, Twisted Metal looks gross.
FalconSupreme's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2012 13:53
FalconSupreme
I'm buying a PS3 for this game. I want it, Rghhdsgkiae;shjoiDSHJGFwihjgoiDFSOIGDF
Exu's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2012 14:05
Exu
Yep, fuck online passes. My brother got Space Marine, I want to play it OH SHIT ONLINE PASS!

Guess I'm not going to play the game then. Guess I'm not going to buy any DLC for it either. And suddenly you have a case of an online pass losing a developer money.
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