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LESS buttons? hell i waqnt MORE buttons. My ultimate controller would be the 360 controller.. but add a Z and C button to make 6 face buttons. 6 face buttons, 2 triggers, 2 bumpers, maybe even interchangeable analog sticks and d-pad. I'd be in heaven. Id only be PC gamer if I was forced to be and hell maybe not even then. its not comfy using a keyboard and mouse and sitting in a chair. even wireless keyboard and mouse i'd need a table to comfortably use them. sitting on my couch with a 2 palm sized controller is fine by me
I get what he's saying or at least think of it like this: Portable gaming is advancing incredibly fast to the point that one can easily see it being on par with consoles to a degree. Soooo...... WHY on earth can't the "portable system be one and the same as a console or PC? Think about it, if the Vita had video out then that near future could be much closer. It seems like they left out that feature for strange reasons.
I feel that a portable can be both a portable and a home console but a console is not a portable device. Might I add that it's a bit tricky putting PC's in the mix because they come in portable form just not scaled down to what most would consider to be a true portable nor do they have on-board controls AKA buttons and sticks.
But anyway I see the portables and consoles being on of the same. :P
I feel that a portable can be both a portable and a home console but a console is not a portable device. Might I add that it's a bit tricky putting PC's in the mix because they come in portable form just not scaled down to what most would consider to be a true portable nor do they have on-board controls AKA buttons and sticks.
But anyway I see the portables and consoles being on of the same. :P
I don't see this being too far off. I don't think consoles will just die off but rather be replaced by handhelds. The way things are going handhelds will be just as powerful as any other present console to the point where you be able to hook it up to your TV.
So in all consoles won't die...they just get smaller to the point they are considered handhelds.
So in all consoles won't die...they just get smaller to the point they are considered handhelds.
No, at least not soon. I don't think we'll start going towards handhelds when games can make photo-realistic graphics and extremely immersive games. Though in the future, it's possible and kinda likely, though they'll probably still connect into TVs.
As for buttons and touchscreens, I don't think they'll be going anywhere any time soon, because things like motion controls and just about anything that isn't a button controls like shit, especially things like Gyroscope. FUCK Gryoscope.
I'll stick with buttons and PC/Consoles for now.
As for buttons and touchscreens, I don't think they'll be going anywhere any time soon, because things like motion controls and just about anything that isn't a button controls like shit, especially things like Gyroscope. FUCK Gryoscope.
I'll stick with buttons and PC/Consoles for now.
I hope home consoles dont go away because
A. I am not a big handheld fan
B. I will never own a really good computer
C. alot of pc gamers say not to play on a laptop and since college the only computer I want is a laptop and I dont want to spend money on a desk top.
A. I am not a big handheld fan
B. I will never own a really good computer
C. alot of pc gamers say not to play on a laptop and since college the only computer I want is a laptop and I dont want to spend money on a desk top.
He's probably right and I don't mind. I've been playing games on my DS Lite so much that it takes up most of my gaming time. I enjoy playing games on my handheld. I would play more on my PC, but I need an upgrade.
Personally I like systems with multiple exclusive libraries
thats what makes gaming fun
Its already happened, The ds and psp smoked everything this gen. And the 3ds is smoking everything now
thats what makes gaming fun
Its already happened, The ds and psp smoked everything this gen. And the 3ds is smoking everything now
"He also believes that the way we interact with games needs to change, and even believes that a new type of interface -- outside of buttons or gestures -- will be the key."
Please god no, can we please stop trying to revolutionize controls? Controllers and buttons have been around as long as they have for a reason.
Please god no, can we please stop trying to revolutionize controls? Controllers and buttons have been around as long as they have for a reason.
Hah, as if. So people get huge TV screens and amazing surround sounds systems so that instead of utilising them with a console... they do what... sit around playing on a portable? Haha, it's a completely ridiculous theory. Portable gaming will *never* replace consoles.
For PC gaming; I know that you can set up your space to be really comfortable, but most likely the PC will not be connected to a huge TV, and you won't be playing it from a comfy couch. This is already a reason why console gaming will live out. Also, there's the thing that console gaming does not require constant hardware upgrades every few games - like PC gaming. There's also a lot of people that prefer to game on a console due to less setup required.
For PC gaming; I know that you can set up your space to be really comfortable, but most likely the PC will not be connected to a huge TV, and you won't be playing it from a comfy couch. This is already a reason why console gaming will live out. Also, there's the thing that console gaming does not require constant hardware upgrades every few games - like PC gaming. There's also a lot of people that prefer to game on a console due to less setup required.
I can see it. At least part of what he is saying. I know for myself I will be moving more towards PC gaming as the current state of consoles leaves a lot to be desired.
Consoles will never go away as long as Nintendo is around and you will never see the family gathering around a PC or mobile device playing a game together lol
As much as some people love to say their portable is what they play most, I doubt we'll see a handheld dominated future happening.
How many GOTY awards do you see going to portable games, and even if they did make Skyrim on PS Vita or 3DS, do you really think it would be the same?
Just look at how people felt about the Valkyria Chronicles series when after one game it went from being a PS3 series to a PSP series. Whilst there were some people who didn't care what it was on there were still many annoyed (myself included, even though I still got a PSP and VC2) at the move away from consoles. Now imagine if that was a Call Of Duty or Mass Effect game that went from console focused to portable focused.
How many GOTY awards do you see going to portable games, and even if they did make Skyrim on PS Vita or 3DS, do you really think it would be the same?
Just look at how people felt about the Valkyria Chronicles series when after one game it went from being a PS3 series to a PSP series. Whilst there were some people who didn't care what it was on there were still many annoyed (myself included, even though I still got a PSP and VC2) at the move away from consoles. Now imagine if that was a Call Of Duty or Mass Effect game that went from console focused to portable focused.
So, he thinks people are going to want to spend their day working on a computer just to come home and play on a computer, over sitting on a comfy couch with a much more ergonomic gamepad? Or staring at a tiny portable screen over a big hdtv? I doubt it.
@matty
1) GOTY are worthless. And rarely ever capture the best game of the year. You know why? because its opinion. On many sites radiant historia got goty, as did skyrim, as did other games. WHo cares
2) The majority were ecstatic. Because it meant more awesome games. Hell 3 was far superior to 1. Valkyria is a complete set only with games 1-3. Hell the fact that we even got sequels at all was because the psp was the clear choice system with the bigger install base
1) GOTY are worthless. And rarely ever capture the best game of the year. You know why? because its opinion. On many sites radiant historia got goty, as did skyrim, as did other games. WHo cares
2) The majority were ecstatic. Because it meant more awesome games. Hell 3 was far superior to 1. Valkyria is a complete set only with games 1-3. Hell the fact that we even got sequels at all was because the psp was the clear choice system with the bigger install base
Phone gamers and casual gamers are a problem market, they are harder to market new games too, they are a fickle lot, they fall in love with a crush the castle clone and it becomes a huge hit, but you can never be sure your next game will have anywhere near the success of the last, thus creating problems for gamers as a while if too many devs head that direction.
@Stealth
1. Sure, GOTY awards may only be opinion, but still a general indication of what many gamers enjoyed most. I haven't played Radiant Historia, so I can't comment on it's quality (I'm sure it's a good game though, would try it if I had a DS), but I don't really know anyone personally who has played it, compared with many who absolutely love Skyrim. The point I am getting at is that there are more relevant gaming franchises within console/PC gaming than there is with portable gaming.
2. Cheaper development costs would have played just as much a part in switching the VC as install base did. Kind of hard to argue install base as a point with VC3 considering it is only limited to Japan at the moment. There are still many hoping that if it does eventually see a localisation, it will be either as part of a PS3 HD collection with VC2, or as a PSN game.
Another point I would like to put out there, is the game I am in the middle of right now is Metal Gear Peace Walker for the PS3 as part of the HD collection. Having already played it on PSP also, I can say it is a much nicer experience with HD resolution and 60fps. Some of those boss fights just weren't meant for the PSP's tiny screen.
1. Sure, GOTY awards may only be opinion, but still a general indication of what many gamers enjoyed most. I haven't played Radiant Historia, so I can't comment on it's quality (I'm sure it's a good game though, would try it if I had a DS), but I don't really know anyone personally who has played it, compared with many who absolutely love Skyrim. The point I am getting at is that there are more relevant gaming franchises within console/PC gaming than there is with portable gaming.
2. Cheaper development costs would have played just as much a part in switching the VC as install base did. Kind of hard to argue install base as a point with VC3 considering it is only limited to Japan at the moment. There are still many hoping that if it does eventually see a localisation, it will be either as part of a PS3 HD collection with VC2, or as a PSN game.
Another point I would like to put out there, is the game I am in the middle of right now is Metal Gear Peace Walker for the PS3 as part of the HD collection. Having already played it on PSP also, I can say it is a much nicer experience with HD resolution and 60fps. Some of those boss fights just weren't meant for the PSP's tiny screen.
I wouldn't be surprised to be honest. With the inflating costs of development for current gen consoles and how much worse it's going to get from here. I wouldn't be surprised if more support is given to the 3DS and Vita because of how much cheaper they'll be to produce. Also given that there's plenty of untapped marketing in the handheld, mobile and PC space. I wouldn't be surprised.
As for a new type of interface? The only way up would be mind control, but that'd be debatable.
As for a new type of interface? The only way up would be mind control, but that'd be debatable.
Bwaha, HAH!!
Oh, you crazy japanese.. proving yourselves irrelevent on the global stage a little more each day.
Oh, you crazy japanese.. proving yourselves irrelevent on the global stage a little more each day.
This actually is probably pretty likely, that is to say the next gen of counsels will probably be the last of counsels as we know them.
There are mobile processors are already more powerful than the chip in the 360 slim and mobiles (phones at least) have a MUCH shorter release cycle.
You can already tether PS3, 360, and Wii controllers to Android based tablets, and stream off of the Tegra3 based devices in full 1080p (in 3D as well, actually), and they have their own internet 4G has down speeds of +6.5 mbps. And this is right now, as technology continues at the pace it's at the time that we're speculating on is around 2015-17 it's just going to keep advancing.
Now that's not to say that larger hardware won't advance in a similar pace but the advantages of a mobile platform are vast, and for pure power that's were the PC aspect will probably come in.
Just as a quick exercise in speculation, let me create a product for you that we have the technology to make pretty much right now.
So Windows 8 is supposed to be Microsoft's all platform OS, PC's, tablets, phones, etc. It's been strongly rumored on the internet that it will have native 360 emulation capabilities. So it's not too far of a leap that you will be able to access your Xbox live services, games, and content on your Win 8 PC (see GFWL already exists). BUT Win 8 is supposed to run the same on all platforms... So we already know that there are mobile chips right now that are more powerful than the 360; that we can tether 360 controllers to Android phones, and that we can stream from phones in full 1080p. With a built in constant and very fast internet connection we now have reduced the functionality of the 360 into a mobile platform!
Now whether or not they actually do this, which I mean come on how much of an awesome plug for their Windows phones would that be, we currently have the technology to do so. Give it 5/7 years and this does not seem like a far fetched idea that counsels as we know them will cease to exist.
It seems like they will probably become more of a service that you can run on many different platforms, and Sony and Microsoft already make phones so it's not to big of a leap. And Nintendo had always had a strong mobile presence, so it might be a bit different from them, but companies can adapt.
And to say that home dedicated counsels will disappear forever probably is not accurate either, but their importance in video games is probably going to be less when compared with the convenience of a powerful mobile platform and the modular updatability and power that comes with a PC (and gaming PC's have gotten a LOT cheaper to build than they once were).
Perhaps I'm being crazy, but I sure as hell would like to be able to play my 360 games on Xbox Live while sitting in a car or waiting in an airport.
There are mobile processors are already more powerful than the chip in the 360 slim and mobiles (phones at least) have a MUCH shorter release cycle.
You can already tether PS3, 360, and Wii controllers to Android based tablets, and stream off of the Tegra3 based devices in full 1080p (in 3D as well, actually), and they have their own internet 4G has down speeds of +6.5 mbps. And this is right now, as technology continues at the pace it's at the time that we're speculating on is around 2015-17 it's just going to keep advancing.
Now that's not to say that larger hardware won't advance in a similar pace but the advantages of a mobile platform are vast, and for pure power that's were the PC aspect will probably come in.
Just as a quick exercise in speculation, let me create a product for you that we have the technology to make pretty much right now.
So Windows 8 is supposed to be Microsoft's all platform OS, PC's, tablets, phones, etc. It's been strongly rumored on the internet that it will have native 360 emulation capabilities. So it's not too far of a leap that you will be able to access your Xbox live services, games, and content on your Win 8 PC (see GFWL already exists). BUT Win 8 is supposed to run the same on all platforms... So we already know that there are mobile chips right now that are more powerful than the 360; that we can tether 360 controllers to Android phones, and that we can stream from phones in full 1080p. With a built in constant and very fast internet connection we now have reduced the functionality of the 360 into a mobile platform!
Now whether or not they actually do this, which I mean come on how much of an awesome plug for their Windows phones would that be, we currently have the technology to do so. Give it 5/7 years and this does not seem like a far fetched idea that counsels as we know them will cease to exist.
It seems like they will probably become more of a service that you can run on many different platforms, and Sony and Microsoft already make phones so it's not to big of a leap. And Nintendo had always had a strong mobile presence, so it might be a bit different from them, but companies can adapt.
And to say that home dedicated counsels will disappear forever probably is not accurate either, but their importance in video games is probably going to be less when compared with the convenience of a powerful mobile platform and the modular updatability and power that comes with a PC (and gaming PC's have gotten a LOT cheaper to build than they once were).
Perhaps I'm being crazy, but I sure as hell would like to be able to play my 360 games on Xbox Live while sitting in a car or waiting in an airport.
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