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Well you can always go to them in Yakuza 1 (and 2 I assume). And tbh I find them pretty fucking creepy, so I don't really think you're missing out.
I noticed they were missing in the English demo (when they are in the Japanese demo) so I just assumed it was cut from the demo.... this is sad news indeed.
When a porting a game that takes place 'IN' modern Japan and requires the player to have a loose understanding of the culture, or at least an open mind, how can you rationalize cutting anything for the sake of cultural differences? Cutting down the replay factor is really, really lame. Not a deal breaker, but super lame
I'm very upset. I enjoyed playing at being a host and running my own hostess club tremendously in Yakuza 2 and feel very morose about not being able to do that in Yakuza 3.
What's worse is that I've been one of those assholes who has basically been carpet-bombing SEGA for a year now asking that they bring this game over. Chances are we will never get Yakuza 4, seeing as how Yakuza 3 will perform terribly (especially since they have now publicly announced that they are cutting content from the game, which is turning off practically all potential buyers who were on the fence after the demo) and now the final Yakuza game we do get will be incomplete.
As a Yakuza fan, I feel really let down.
Also, I really don't know why the hell SEGA would have rushed them on this. They just absolutely NEEDED to have Yakuza 3 out on the same day as FFXIII? They couldn't give their localization team a couple more weeks to complete a section of a game that ISN'T EVEN VERY TEXT-HEAVY? It's all questions and answers, sure, but there are surprisingly few of them and they're all very short.
What's worse is that I've been one of those assholes who has basically been carpet-bombing SEGA for a year now asking that they bring this game over. Chances are we will never get Yakuza 4, seeing as how Yakuza 3 will perform terribly (especially since they have now publicly announced that they are cutting content from the game, which is turning off practically all potential buyers who were on the fence after the demo) and now the final Yakuza game we do get will be incomplete.
As a Yakuza fan, I feel really let down.
Also, I really don't know why the hell SEGA would have rushed them on this. They just absolutely NEEDED to have Yakuza 3 out on the same day as FFXIII? They couldn't give their localization team a couple more weeks to complete a section of a game that ISN'T EVEN VERY TEXT-HEAVY? It's all questions and answers, sure, but there are surprisingly few of them and they're all very short.
This is good. If it were there, it would cause my poor American brain to shut down from sheer culture shock.
God knows, we don't want a game that takes place in Japan to be too Japanese.
Seriously, who is this helping, exactly? This is releasing a Gainax anime as dub only, with every instance of Japanese food replaced with a hamburger. You know who your marketing this game to, and it isn't to Joe Shmoe and the MW2 crew.
God knows, we don't want a game that takes place in Japan to be too Japanese.
Seriously, who is this helping, exactly? This is releasing a Gainax anime as dub only, with every instance of Japanese food replaced with a hamburger. You know who your marketing this game to, and it isn't to Joe Shmoe and the MW2 crew.
Okay, a few points... There's been 5 trophies removed from the US edition. Including the whorehouse trophy.
1. Not too different from God of War, so I call BS on it being cut for prudish reasons.
2. Cultural differences? Who do they think is buying this game? Do they think average white man is going to run out and buy this while dropping $5 on his Madden 2011 reservation? Fuck no. Weeaboos are buying this. People who understand and have an active interest in Japanese culture.
I'm sorry Sega, but you guys are just plain fucked in the head on this one. There's no need to explain the concept of Japan. Modern gamers have been concepted to death over Japan. We know what 2chan is for fucks sake. Air sex, bukkake, Pocari Sweat, Pokemon, Ramune, karaoke, and countless other shit are things we know about from Japan. Japan resonates socially across the waves. The days of yore where foreigners get all squinchy seeing a Geisha tea ceremony are long past.
Is it a large component of the game? No. It is a sizable mini-game component. Hostess clubs are not whorehouses, they're paid social visits. You go, you pay, you get to have a conversation with a hot japanese chick while she smiles and pretends to rike you. WTF is there that confuses our large eyed heads? I'd like some insight on what small minded group of marketers decided what was best for a westernized port of a Japanese game that struggles to sell well in the US.
SEGA, you ask yourself WHY THE OTHER TWO GAMES STRUGGLED IN RETAIL?!
I mean, I'm still buying this, if only to get the Englished up game to where it make sense now... But this is no indication that I'm going to be enamored with the experience. Sometimes I'm deeply ashamed to own a Dreamcast.
1. Not too different from God of War, so I call BS on it being cut for prudish reasons.
2. Cultural differences? Who do they think is buying this game? Do they think average white man is going to run out and buy this while dropping $5 on his Madden 2011 reservation? Fuck no. Weeaboos are buying this. People who understand and have an active interest in Japanese culture.
I'm sorry Sega, but you guys are just plain fucked in the head on this one. There's no need to explain the concept of Japan. Modern gamers have been concepted to death over Japan. We know what 2chan is for fucks sake. Air sex, bukkake, Pocari Sweat, Pokemon, Ramune, karaoke, and countless other shit are things we know about from Japan. Japan resonates socially across the waves. The days of yore where foreigners get all squinchy seeing a Geisha tea ceremony are long past.
Is it a large component of the game? No. It is a sizable mini-game component. Hostess clubs are not whorehouses, they're paid social visits. You go, you pay, you get to have a conversation with a hot japanese chick while she smiles and pretends to rike you. WTF is there that confuses our large eyed heads? I'd like some insight on what small minded group of marketers decided what was best for a westernized port of a Japanese game that struggles to sell well in the US.
SEGA, you ask yourself WHY THE OTHER TWO GAMES STRUGGLED IN RETAIL?!
I mean, I'm still buying this, if only to get the Englished up game to where it make sense now... But this is no indication that I'm going to be enamored with the experience. Sometimes I'm deeply ashamed to own a Dreamcast.
Sega is retarded... They were in the first and second, so now we dont understand them that's convenient.
It's so confusing as to Sega's thought processes behind this trimming of content, even though they just told us the reason. It just doesn't make sense. Not a lick.
They seem to be making some Sonic-style mistakes on this game.
They seem to be making some Sonic-style mistakes on this game.
What a shame, so will this cut content be on the Asian release of Yakuza 3? Or will it still have the cut content? I hoping they didn't cut the content so I could order it off Play Asia.
@Mercy
From the press release it looks like just US/UK version is affected, if the Asian release has english subtitles I'm importing. Fuck this bullshit.
From the press release it looks like just US/UK version is affected, if the Asian release has english subtitles I'm importing. Fuck this bullshit.
who cares, I guess; I wasn't buying it anyways.
The only thing I want from Sega is a new Jet Set Radio
The only thing I want from Sega is a new Jet Set Radio
I don't care how much difference there is in culture, you shouldn't cut out content. At the very least they should be offering the hostess bars as free DLC so the the player can choose whether or not to play with them.
well I'm not getting this anymore...I play Yakuza because it's a Japanese game, I wanted the hostess bars =_=
Just for you guys to know, the Asian version of this game doesn't have English subtitle. It's completely in Japanese.
Yes, I am part of the problem for having standards. When it comes to games you vote with your wallet, and my money is going to go to something else instead because I'm not pleased with what they're putting out. I'm not going to just, "buy it anyways" because thats giving them a free pass and encourages this kind of behavior. The real problem is that there are too many people who will, "just buy it, anyway". Sonic is a fantastic example of this.
Also, the hostess club is referenced in the demo. It says that it will be in the full game, so thats what I want. I want the demo to reflect their product, otherwise its deceptive.
Also, the hostess club is referenced in the demo. It says that it will be in the full game, so thats what I want. I want the demo to reflect their product, otherwise its deceptive.
They did not cut the hostess bars from the previous game?
I ... I just cant wrap my head around this.
What the hell are the people at Sega thinking sometimes?
I will still buy it, but cutting ANY content is just stupid.
I ... I just cant wrap my head around this.
What the hell are the people at Sega thinking sometimes?
I will still buy it, but cutting ANY content is just stupid.
Why is it ok for Japan to always express xenophobia and racism but not Europe or the US? Japan is for japanese only, but if the English where to say "England is for the English only" The PC police and the world would be like "HOW DARE YOU!"
Wait wait I have to say though I do not condone this behavior I just hate double standards. I think crap like that is BS and when Europe does crap like they yea call them out, but don't be like Japan is for the Japanese. . . . . like as if thats any different.
@Mildpooptastic. You make up a point, pointless but still a point. I've alway wondered why Japan gets a free pass for committing atrocities equal if not worse than Hitler, gets to never apologize to the countries they brutalized and deny they did anything wrong. Yet, Germans constanly catch hell at any mention of Nazis...off topic so apologies to the D-toid posters.
Yakuza 3. Eh, whatever Sega. All I need to hear is "missing content," and my attention makes a quick dash to Heavy Rain, Battlefield Bad Comany 2, God of War III, Dragon Age: Awakening, and later Red Dead: Redemption with their sexy, new complete looks and forget all about you.
Yakuza 3. Eh, whatever Sega. All I need to hear is "missing content," and my attention makes a quick dash to Heavy Rain, Battlefield Bad Comany 2, God of War III, Dragon Age: Awakening, and later Red Dead: Redemption with their sexy, new complete looks and forget all about you.
Big deal. Its just the parts Weeaboos and wapanese folks would be butthurt because its been cut out, they've probably got the Japanese version anyway, heh. Other than that i'm ok with it.
@Thulsa Dooom
I once was told by a wapanese on some forum who said that the Nanking Atrocities were Communist China's propaganda to discredit Japan and the Hiroshima and Nagasaki were acts of aggression by America. He was pretty earnest about it
I once was told by a wapanese on some forum who said that the Nanking Atrocities were Communist China's propaganda to discredit Japan and the Hiroshima and Nagasaki were acts of aggression by America. He was pretty earnest about it
@ Gene Eric
That's just the thing though - the Weeaboos and Wapanese are a PRETTY KEY DEMOGRAPHIC for this game.
This is something I'd expect 4Kids to do - editing out content for the sake of making it "More American".
That's just the thing though - the Weeaboos and Wapanese are a PRETTY KEY DEMOGRAPHIC for this game.
This is something I'd expect 4Kids to do - editing out content for the sake of making it "More American".
@the7k
Or it could be just a good game on its on? I mean i'm not sure pandering to the weeaboos and the wapanese is a good thing to begin with.
I rather have them cut the whole thing out rather than replace it with something lame
Or it could be just a good game on its on? I mean i'm not sure pandering to the weeaboos and the wapanese is a good thing to begin with.
I rather have them cut the whole thing out rather than replace it with something lame
I think Sega is fooling themselves thinking this is "culture." You don't have to be a weaboo to understand this. hpv summed it up perfectly with, "Young girls dressed like sluts "resonate" everywhere."
Okay, this needs to get patched in. They can call it what they want, but I'm fairly sure it's just 'There was a lot of text and we didn't want to translate it all'.
I seem to remember that it wasnt to long ago that this game wasnt going to come out at all stateside. ..If I had to choose between a cut like this, or not getting the game at all.. Then I'd take the game like this.
There is still 122 side stories and all the extra, crappy mini-games, so it's not like cutting out these two, small things will have any impact. It might make the game better as you won't have to waste so much time.
And here i thought people liked the interesting open-world setting and the entertaining fighting. Sega, you suck at making GAMES. (Games being the key word),
Damned if I know what a hostess bar is and I beat Yakuza 2. Best I came up with was a brothel where you can only talk to the women (in other words, a stupid waste of time and money)
Oh boo hoo, we lose one minor part of the game. Can't we just be thankful that we're even getting Yakuza 3 in the first place? I hate it when content gets cut, but I'll take a compromised version over no version at all.
why shouldnt it resonate with western culture? we have the same system in the clubs.... you go in a club see a girl you like....go to her , invite her for a drink,if she doesnt decline youre proposal she gets her bewerage/cocktail etc....as soon its depleted shes gone...little differences 1)in japan they cant say no to you 2)the girls we hire cost us only a drink. since the first days of pixel erotica the man liked women in their games....culture doenst matter
Oh fuck SEGA and their bullshit.
Tehy take ages to add some goddamn subtitles and remove elements from the game?! Because they couldn't just re-write the quiz to be about world history?? And hostess clubs don't resonate?
SEGA: WE DON'T PLAY YAKUZA BECAUSE WE'RE AFRAID TO EXPERIENCE A DIFFERNT CULTURE.
Tehy take ages to add some goddamn subtitles and remove elements from the game?! Because they couldn't just re-write the quiz to be about world history?? And hostess clubs don't resonate?
SEGA: WE DON'T PLAY YAKUZA BECAUSE WE'RE AFRAID TO EXPERIENCE A DIFFERNT CULTURE.
Oh fuck SEGA and their bullshit.
Tehy take ages to add some goddamn subtitles and remove elements from the game?! Because they couldn't just re-write the quiz to be about world history?? And hostess clubs don't resonate?
SEGA: WE DON'T PLAY YAKUZA BECAUSE WE'RE AFRAID TO EXPERIENCE A DIFFERENT BLOODY CULTURE.
Tehy take ages to add some goddamn subtitles and remove elements from the game?! Because they couldn't just re-write the quiz to be about world history?? And hostess clubs don't resonate?
SEGA: WE DON'T PLAY YAKUZA BECAUSE WE'RE AFRAID TO EXPERIENCE A DIFFERENT BLOODY CULTURE.
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