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Why do Achievements/Trophies continue to be an insult to gamers.
One Achievement/Trophy for beating a game, two for doing something badass, and one for doing something stupidly obsessive.
Any Achievements "earned" from visiting Microsoft's Game Room are a stain on your profile.
One Achievement/Trophy for beating a game, two for doing something badass, and one for doing something stupidly obsessive.
Any Achievements "earned" from visiting Microsoft's Game Room are a stain on your profile.
Still think it looks cool. And I'm looking forward to it because now I can finally get rid of some 40 spare Microsoft points on my account without simply spending it on crap like gamer pictures.
@Nicojay2
The worst achievements aren't even the ones for playing in the game room. Looking at the full list, there are achievements for buying stuff. If you fill a room with games, you get an achievement. If you buy decorations for it, you get an achievement.
The worst achievements aren't even the ones for playing in the game room. Looking at the full list, there are achievements for buying stuff. If you fill a room with games, you get an achievement. If you buy decorations for it, you get an achievement.
Who ever said Cheevos > Trophies?
This shows Trophies are what cheevos should be, cheevos are blackmail into buying stuff.
Suppose if you're an xbox user you're used to shit like this by now though.
This shows Trophies are what cheevos should be, cheevos are blackmail into buying stuff.
Suppose if you're an xbox user you're used to shit like this by now though.
Hey, they probably aren't gonna be charging for the decorations, or it'll be something trivial like 60 points for some of them. So what the fuck is the problem people? Sweet merciful fuck there is to much bitching.
@SC
ok, that would be a good point..... If you had any proof that there is going to be that achievement.
Haters be hating.
ok, that would be a good point..... If you had any proof that there is going to be that achievement.
Haters be hating.
@ajsmart
Decorations and mascots come with the games you buy, so it's not meant to be an extra purchase.
I may not be rushing out to buy scads of games next week, but as they trickle out new arcade titles to pick from, I'm sure I'll be getting more and more of these.
@Sexual
I disagree. The gamertag score is pretty solid. There are easy whore score games, but by and large, little attention is paid to people who exclusively farm those titles for score.
For instance, I'm aware I could nab an easy 2000 points by playing Avatar and King Kong over the course of a day. I have yet to play either title.
Trophies serve a similar purpose, but ultimately, it's not as well implemented on the PS3. The score valuation system, comparison to friends, and updating is all painfully slow compared to the experience on the 360. It's not wrong or anything, it's just not as good, IMO.
So, yeah, there's easy whoring capabilities, people run out to get easy cheevos in Dash of Destruction or 1 vs 100, but not everyone does and it's not so much an indicator of making people buy this or that, as it is an incentive to keep playing when done well.
Decorations and mascots come with the games you buy, so it's not meant to be an extra purchase.
I may not be rushing out to buy scads of games next week, but as they trickle out new arcade titles to pick from, I'm sure I'll be getting more and more of these.
@Sexual
I disagree. The gamertag score is pretty solid. There are easy whore score games, but by and large, little attention is paid to people who exclusively farm those titles for score.
For instance, I'm aware I could nab an easy 2000 points by playing Avatar and King Kong over the course of a day. I have yet to play either title.
Trophies serve a similar purpose, but ultimately, it's not as well implemented on the PS3. The score valuation system, comparison to friends, and updating is all painfully slow compared to the experience on the 360. It's not wrong or anything, it's just not as good, IMO.
So, yeah, there's easy whoring capabilities, people run out to get easy cheevos in Dash of Destruction or 1 vs 100, but not everyone does and it's not so much an indicator of making people buy this or that, as it is an incentive to keep playing when done well.
@Pacman: either not enough or too many
I like the visualization of the arcade room as it takes me back to my younger days.
However, I'm not paying for this stuff.
I like the visualization of the arcade room as it takes me back to my younger days.
However, I'm not paying for this stuff.
@Sexualchocolate
Who ever said Cheevos > Trophies?
Who exactly said that? Cause I can't find anywhere on this article or comments that anybody actually said anything about Xbox Achievements being better than Trophies. They're all equally crappy and meant to sucker in more gamers to spend more money just to satisfy their fake accomplishments.
This shows Trophies are what cheevos should be, cheevos are blackmail into buying stuff.
How exactly are achievements blackmail? It's just extra incentives for achievemnt addicts to buy virtual arcades. Serious business, much?
Who ever said Cheevos > Trophies?
Who exactly said that? Cause I can't find anywhere on this article or comments that anybody actually said anything about Xbox Achievements being better than Trophies. They're all equally crappy and meant to sucker in more gamers to spend more money just to satisfy their fake accomplishments.
This shows Trophies are what cheevos should be, cheevos are blackmail into buying stuff.
How exactly are achievements blackmail? It's just extra incentives for achievemnt addicts to buy virtual arcades. Serious business, much?
Alright alright, I'm just trolling, slow day over here.
Killing time so i can get home as my God Of War 3 rental arrived today!!
Killing time so i can get home as my God Of War 3 rental arrived today!!
Eh Achievements give me a reason to play some games more than I otherwise would...
...they made me finish the Visual and Aural rape that was the Modern Warfare 2 campaign on Veteran, when I otherwise would've traded it in the next day...instead of the 3 days it took me to finish it.
Same goes with finishing Halo 3 on Legendary by myself...but yeah. I see them as an incentive to go outside my gaming comfort zone and try things I normally wouldnt.
...they made me finish the Visual and Aural rape that was the Modern Warfare 2 campaign on Veteran, when I otherwise would've traded it in the next day...instead of the 3 days it took me to finish it.
Same goes with finishing Halo 3 on Legendary by myself...but yeah. I see them as an incentive to go outside my gaming comfort zone and try things I normally wouldnt.
I dont understand how people bash home which is free when they are more than willing to pay for this retarted pile of shit.
Epic fail
Epic fail
@TargetRenegade
We don't know if they are willing to pay yet. I have a feeling this is going to be a resounding failure.
Then again, I also thought nobody would buy avatar crap, and my friends list is filled with people wearing MW2 stuff and playing with their remote control warthogs and digital puppies. Ugh.
We don't know if they are willing to pay yet. I have a feeling this is going to be a resounding failure.
Then again, I also thought nobody would buy avatar crap, and my friends list is filled with people wearing MW2 stuff and playing with their remote control warthogs and digital puppies. Ugh.
Actually, I'm quite looking forward to this Arcade thing. It will remind me of being 10 years old and my old man taking me to the Arcades and filling my pockets with 10ps. Also, my Dad would love to play Galaga and some of those old classics with/against me (he hates modern video games), and that would be nice seeing as how we don't have that much in common anymore.
"like a dirty van full of candy"
LOL, Nice! The arcade looks cool. Probably moreso for us oldbie types.
LOL, Nice! The arcade looks cool. Probably moreso for us oldbie types.
Though I'm by no means excited for it, I do actually plan on trying out the Arcade, only because a) it's free to download and b) I have a few random points left and nothing worthwhile to spend them on, so I might as well at least rent a few games. (And yes, before you ask, I own literally dozens of games off the Indie channel.)
@TargetRenegade
This thing is nothing like Home. There's no walking around, no buying furniture for your apartment, no crouching in front of people while they dance, no talking to girls only to have them morph into fat men, etc. All you do here is log in and play your games. You know, like an arcade...
@TargetRenegade
This thing is nothing like Home. There's no walking around, no buying furniture for your apartment, no crouching in front of people while they dance, no talking to girls only to have them morph into fat men, etc. All you do here is log in and play your games. You know, like an arcade...
So what's so bad about Games room, Carlton? You got something against old school arcade games? Or are you just saying this because it's not Sony's idea?
So you categorically don't waste any money on anything?
If we were talking big money here, I'd totally agree with you, but we're talking like a pound here, two pounds there. It's not exactly a big deal, and doesn't make me "sad" because I might be tempted to buy some of the old games that I used to watch my Dad play as a kid, does it?
Yeah I could play a flash version, or for the price of two packets of crisps and a can of coke I can play it via the medium which I use most. Again, I don't see how that makes me sad.
If we were talking big money here, I'd totally agree with you, but we're talking like a pound here, two pounds there. It's not exactly a big deal, and doesn't make me "sad" because I might be tempted to buy some of the old games that I used to watch my Dad play as a kid, does it?
Yeah I could play a flash version, or for the price of two packets of crisps and a can of coke I can play it via the medium which I use most. Again, I don't see how that makes me sad.
Some people like games from the eighties. That was the period of my childhood/adolescence. You don't like it, so it's shit. Wow. You must be special.
Allow me to quote Carlton Banks from a different thread, about an hour ago:
"Haaaaaaaatttttteeeeerrrsss"
"Haaaaaaaatttttteeeeerrrsss"
@sexualchocolate God of war III rental? Am I to understand that the ultimate ps3 fanboy isn't even going to support the developers buy actually purchasing a copy?
I'm about as surprised as specter620 right now...
As for Game Room... Eh, I don't know. I like retro stuff as much as the next guy, but I don't know about THIS retro. I'm more of an SNES retro guy, myself. I think everything before that is a bit too hard for me to really get into.
As for Game Room... Eh, I don't know. I like retro stuff as much as the next guy, but I don't know about THIS retro. I'm more of an SNES retro guy, myself. I think everything before that is a bit too hard for me to really get into.
I tend to sway on the achievement whore side of things for games I enjoy - I'd likely have never touched the tougher challenges for Arkham Asylum without the promise of magical, ethereal points to add to my dismal score. But without that dangled carrot, I wouldn't have found them so satisfying to finish. Getting points for spending money is pretty low, though I wouldn't really begrudge anyone who did so. People spend their disposable cash on worse things. I'd just roll my eyes and remove the hat I bought for my avatar.
Probably not going for this myself, though - I've only a little nostalgia for 80's games, since I was mostly too young.
Probably not going for this myself, though - I've only a little nostalgia for 80's games, since I was mostly too young.
This is pretty neat as I may now at least try the stupid room. I didn't understand paying for more content without some kind of compensation, but it is depressing that you can't use your previous XBLA purchases.
Wow. Has the Pavlov Dog of achievements really created so many drones that they'll buy simple games from 25-30 years ago, pay actual money for these things, and then NEED to go into this arcade room to stack up meaningless numbers sitting next to their gamertag?
I don't know which is more pathetic. That Microsoft implemented a way to get gamers hooked to little bloop sounds and numbers to make them do something they might have stayed away from otherwise, or the fact there's plenty of gamers this works on.
This is just another thing where you hear about this and you're ashamed to tell anyone in the outside world you game because you don't want to be associated with....well, this.
I don't know which is more pathetic. That Microsoft implemented a way to get gamers hooked to little bloop sounds and numbers to make them do something they might have stayed away from otherwise, or the fact there's plenty of gamers this works on.
This is just another thing where you hear about this and you're ashamed to tell anyone in the outside world you game because you don't want to be associated with....well, this.
I'm always amazed at all the hate in threads like this.
I've said it before, and I stand by it: achievements and trophies are no more meaningless than anything else related to videogames, including the games themselves.
Do games feed you? Clothe you? Suck your cock?
No, all they do is provide you with amusement and happiness, and if people enjoy racking up their gamerscore as a part of that process, then what the fuck is wrong with that? If anything, it sounds like they're having more fun playing their games than some of the haters around here...
Videogames have kept scores since the days of Tetris. There's a reason for that: some people find it fun. Get the fuck over yourselves.
I've said it before, and I stand by it: achievements and trophies are no more meaningless than anything else related to videogames, including the games themselves.
Do games feed you? Clothe you? Suck your cock?
No, all they do is provide you with amusement and happiness, and if people enjoy racking up their gamerscore as a part of that process, then what the fuck is wrong with that? If anything, it sounds like they're having more fun playing their games than some of the haters around here...
Videogames have kept scores since the days of Tetris. There's a reason for that: some people find it fun. Get the fuck over yourselves.
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