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Before people get all up and arms about Notch having a potential lawsuit, he admitted getting a lot of influence from the game "Infiniminer" - Minecraft just happened to get popular first.
To clarify a bit, Fortresscraft is not just $1 for the ability to roam around. He's planning on releasing multiple "chapters" for $1 each, that expand upon the regular Minecraft "build stuff" mechanic. When all is said and done, he's claiming a few really cool things, like crafting, combat, and quests - basically more than what Minecraft is planning to offer even after beta.
No doubt this won't make a lot of money, and will be overshadowed by Notch's project, but at the very worst, it'll light some fire under Notch to up Minecraft's gameplay variety.
To clarify a bit, Fortresscraft is not just $1 for the ability to roam around. He's planning on releasing multiple "chapters" for $1 each, that expand upon the regular Minecraft "build stuff" mechanic. When all is said and done, he's claiming a few really cool things, like crafting, combat, and quests - basically more than what Minecraft is planning to offer even after beta.
No doubt this won't make a lot of money, and will be overshadowed by Notch's project, but at the very worst, it'll light some fire under Notch to up Minecraft's gameplay variety.
Fuck, I'll buy it. Even if I have to sink $20 into it total, the ability to play Minecraft without owning a working PC is just too good to pass up.
i see no reason to turn this into a minecraft vs. fortresscraft pissing match.
i love minecraft and to have a reasonable facsimile of it on my 360 is enough to get me to plunk down a buck.
i love minecraft and to have a reasonable facsimile of it on my 360 is enough to get me to plunk down a buck.
Oh look, another ripoff for the XBL Indie marketplace.
Good lord, it's like 99% of the people that use the Indie bit of the XBLA are incapable of even a vaguely original idea.
Good lord, it's like 99% of the people that use the Indie bit of the XBLA are incapable of even a vaguely original idea.
you know, that $1? Turns into more when you realize you'll need a gold membership to play this thing online. Give me Minecraft. It runs on a macbook, which makes it a portable AND console game.
I'm sure I read an article somewhere stating that the first "chapter" is being released this Friday. For 80msp I'll definitely give it a go.
@Magnalon
To play the Devil's Advocate though, Infiniminer was already very different from Minecraft in that it was a team based player versus player focused game about harvesting and flooding enemy mines. And when Minecraft was started Infiniminer was already defunct and its source code freely released.
To play the Devil's Advocate though, Infiniminer was already very different from Minecraft in that it was a team based player versus player focused game about harvesting and flooding enemy mines. And when Minecraft was started Infiniminer was already defunct and its source code freely released.
@Instigator
Agreed. Notch did nothing wrong - I just wanted to state that the idea of Minecraft was not wholly original. With the amount of fervor the title's fans have, a lot of people probably glossed that over. Regardless of the point of inception, Minecraft is fun, and Notch's success story is inspiring.
Agreed. Notch did nothing wrong - I just wanted to state that the idea of Minecraft was not wholly original. With the amount of fervor the title's fans have, a lot of people probably glossed that over. Regardless of the point of inception, Minecraft is fun, and Notch's success story is inspiring.
I'm gonna buy this for sure. Minecraft started crashing on my laptop for some unkown reason and it's basically unplayable.
Without getting all up in arms; it still makes me uneasy and feels douchy.
I say as I play Minecraft at work.
I say as I play Minecraft at work.
With All due respect, the creator of fortresscraft stated on his blog that he was inspired by minecraft, but plans to use different monsters, items etc. I will say though, his cocky attitude towards the whole thing is a bit disrespectful towards notch.
@ mrandydixon, re: Jayson
It's like i said in a previous post. That boy just doesn't put any effort into it. Annoying AND lazy
It's like i said in a previous post. That boy just doesn't put any effort into it. Annoying AND lazy
I don't really care that he is stealing the idea of minecraft, minecraft wasn't original to begin with. once it becomes more commercial there will be tons of games that are just like it with subtle differences, people need to get used to it.
He made the announcement on the Minecraft forums, where he's already taken more than enough flak. I don't think the argument that there'll soon be loads of Minecraft clones holds true really, since Minecraft is by now so freaking big and iconic that nothing new could really compete with it. Its the World of Warcraft of its space. What makes this so dodgy though is that you can only take one look at the graphics to know where the 'inspiration' was. Hell its even named similar. The guy could be doing more to differentiate himself from the real thing if he didn't want to be accused of pure plagiarism.
@shadow I dislike the dev's douchey attitude as well.
I know he's aiming for a combination of Minecraft and Dwarf Fortress, but the fact is he's just trying to cash in on Notch's success. Also, I believe he's going to fail greatly as combining the two games, but that's just my opinion.
The whole thing feels douchey all the way through. Minecraft might not be original, but Notch took up the idea when the guy behind Infiniminer let the concept die (a hugely different concept regardless).
I know he's aiming for a combination of Minecraft and Dwarf Fortress, but the fact is he's just trying to cash in on Notch's success. Also, I believe he's going to fail greatly as combining the two games, but that's just my opinion.
The whole thing feels douchey all the way through. Minecraft might not be original, but Notch took up the idea when the guy behind Infiniminer let the concept die (a hugely different concept regardless).
@ Magnalon
I guess I must not have read things correctly many moons ago when I looked, but I thought the plan was for Minecraft to have some of these elements down the road (not to mention, uh, it's not like Minecraft doesn't have combat or crafting in it). *shrug*
I guess I must not have read things correctly many moons ago when I looked, but I thought the plan was for Minecraft to have some of these elements down the road (not to mention, uh, it's not like Minecraft doesn't have combat or crafting in it). *shrug*
It doesn't look bad, but just looking at it rubs me the wrong way. It would feel like cheating if I played it over minecraft. It's just not right.
My God. You've got to read some of this shit:
http://getsatisfaction.com/fortresscraft/topics/so_what_will_you_do_when_mojang_sues_you?utm_medium=widget&utm_source=widget_fortresscraft
People need to chill the fuck out. I'm buying 10 copies just to piss off all the Minecraft-only fanboys.
http://getsatisfaction.com/fortresscraft/topics/so_what_will_you_do_when_mojang_sues_you?utm_medium=widget&utm_source=widget_fortresscraft
People need to chill the fuck out. I'm buying 10 copies just to piss off all the Minecraft-only fanboys.
I can't say anything better than a commenter over on Kotaku:
"If you need to write ten paragraphs on how your game isn't a clone of Minecraft, it's a clone of Minecraft."
"If you need to write ten paragraphs on how your game isn't a clone of Minecraft, it's a clone of Minecraft."
If this has local co-op, definite buy, but otherwise I see no benefit over PC version...
As for the originality thing - maybe not the most original, but neither was Minecraft (as others have noted) and as long as it isn't a direct clone I don't see a huge problem. I guess.
As for the originality thing - maybe not the most original, but neither was Minecraft (as others have noted) and as long as it isn't a direct clone I don't see a huge problem. I guess.
If you are going to copy something, at LEAST make it your 'own'. Like Banjo-Kazooie. It was obviously 'inspired' by Super Mario 64, from the overall design to the premise, but improved over it in many ways. It also felt like Banjo-Kazooie, not a Super Mario 64 clone.
Other example: Dead Space and Resident Evil 4.
This game, however, is EXACTLY like Minecraft. Just look at the damn video. It's Minecraft, totally dried out of charm.
Other example: Dead Space and Resident Evil 4.
This game, however, is EXACTLY like Minecraft. Just look at the damn video. It's Minecraft, totally dried out of charm.
Not getting this on account of it doesn't really look any fun.
Beside's, he totally stole the name from a starcraftII mod:
http://www.moddb.com/mods/fortress-craft
Beside's, he totally stole the name from a starcraftII mod:
http://www.moddb.com/mods/fortress-craft
@Epic-KxDtoid:
If you're talking about Gerbil Physics, it came before Angry Birds -- and they are both rip offs of other early video games, anyway.
Neither of those titles are original. Angry Birds was simply marketed very well and somehow went viral.
If you're talking about Gerbil Physics, it came before Angry Birds -- and they are both rip offs of other early video games, anyway.
Neither of those titles are original. Angry Birds was simply marketed very well and somehow went viral.
I've looked through his mojang forum posts, his own website, the 'get satisfaction' board, watched the videos.
There is literally nothing in the 'episode 1' thing that isn't in Minecraft.
For those saying Minecraft 'isn't original' because of Infiniminer, you obviously never played Infiniminer - it was basically Team Fortress 2 with blocks.
There is literally nothing in the 'episode 1' thing that isn't in Minecraft.
For those saying Minecraft 'isn't original' because of Infiniminer, you obviously never played Infiniminer - it was basically Team Fortress 2 with blocks.
Wow, just, wow. I'm all for similar games, but supporting a downright ripoff down to the visual representation is idiotic.
@Derek
1) Notch himself said he drew upon Infiniminer. I'm not really in the position to say "he didn't", when he said he did.
2) As I said, Episode 1 will have similar themes with Minecraft. However, future episodes apparently will have more.
3) It's $1.
1) Notch himself said he drew upon Infiniminer. I'm not really in the position to say "he didn't", when he said he did.
2) As I said, Episode 1 will have similar themes with Minecraft. However, future episodes apparently will have more.
3) It's $1.
I would totally get this i'm glad that people on D~toid are a little more sensible about this game than most sites bitching about how MINECRAFT IS Original and And started by notch xD
HELL YEAH A RIP OFF OF A RIP OFF ON 360 :D it's only a Dollar Woot~!
$10 says that if Minecraft comes to Ps3 first thing Jayson will say is "Of course it will be on the Ps3 the superior "open" platform"
And ps3 Fanboys will say Mwhaha "this is what xbot fans get for getting the crap copy of it O_O"
Then Epic Will say this to jayson "Jayson STFU~! *insert more expletives*
$10 says that if Minecraft comes to Ps3 first thing Jayson will say is "Of course it will be on the Ps3 the superior "open" platform"
And ps3 Fanboys will say Mwhaha "this is what xbot fans get for getting the crap copy of it O_O"
Then Epic Will say this to jayson "Jayson STFU~! *insert more expletives*
I have points laying around in my account, so I'll check it out. But I'm going to be the worse kind of person and buy it only to judge the creator.
Clones will be clones, everyone should just accept that and move on. Shit happens all the time, I don't see why this is such a huge deal. My only problem with cloning comes when it fails to distinguish itself from the game it is inspired by, which is something this dude obviously hasn't done on visuals alone.
What I'm saying is that he could've made a clone that at least looked different and nobody would've cared (Hell, Uncharted 2 is one of the best games this generation and it's pretty much copy + paste for all it's gameplay elements), but the fact that the visuals are that similar just seems he wanted to cash-in on Minecraft's success. Whether he differentiates it through future updates using gameplay tweaks is different, though.
All I'm saying is that the visuals should've been changed up is all. He would've avoided like 90% of the flak he's getting just doing that alone. Best of luck to him though, I would imagine there are tons of console gamers eager to try something Minecraft-esque.
What I'm saying is that he could've made a clone that at least looked different and nobody would've cared (Hell, Uncharted 2 is one of the best games this generation and it's pretty much copy + paste for all it's gameplay elements), but the fact that the visuals are that similar just seems he wanted to cash-in on Minecraft's success. Whether he differentiates it through future updates using gameplay tweaks is different, though.
All I'm saying is that the visuals should've been changed up is all. He would've avoided like 90% of the flak he's getting just doing that alone. Best of luck to him though, I would imagine there are tons of console gamers eager to try something Minecraft-esque.
AtomicBanana
you know, that $1? Turns into more when you realize you'll need a gold membership to play this thing online. Give me Minecraft. It runs on a macbook, which makes it a portable AND console game.
BRO-FIST
Minecraft + Macbook = WIN!
you know, that $1? Turns into more when you realize you'll need a gold membership to play this thing online. Give me Minecraft. It runs on a macbook, which makes it a portable AND console game.
BRO-FIST
Minecraft + Macbook = WIN!
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