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Xbox 360 users enraged over Tales of Vesperia PS3 port photo

There is a reason why many Japanese gamers own an Xbox 360, and it's not because they love Halo. It's because Namco Bandai's Tales series is massive over there and, at one time, Tales of Vesperia was an Xbox 360 exclusive. Vesperia helped sell 360 systems in Japan, and ever since the game went multiplatform, users have become infuriated, petitioning the publishers and claiming that it's not fair for a vastly upgraded version of the game to appear on the PS3.

The petition makes a list of demands that address Namco's "underhanded" behavior and "abnormal" decision. It also claims that the 360 users were little more than beta testers for the real version of the game. Here's what the angered masses want from Namco Bandai:

  • The games should not be dispersed across multiple platforms, they should be consolidated onto one platform [i.e. Xbox 360].
  • The games should be complete and properly made.
  • From now on, the porting of titles like Tales of Symphonia and Tales of Vesperia should be abolished.
  • An official apology should be made to Xbox 360 users for the abnormal number of additions made to Vesperia only a year after its Xbox 360 release.
  • The traces of the later additions found in the Xbox 360 edition should be explained.
  • Further bizarre product linkages should not be undertaken.
  • Elements of the Tales series [i.e. Patty Fleur] which cannot be enjoyed by all users should not be added.
  • Characters and the Tales universe should not be toyed with any more than necessary.
  • Certain platforms should not be favoured over others.
  • We wish to see user complaints acted upon.
  • We wish to see more consideration given to the effects of official actions on the fanbase.

Usually it's the PS3 fans who get upset over multiplatform titles (I still remember the Devil May Cry 4 petition) but at least in this case, I can understand the anger to a point. A lot of Japanese users bought their systems solely for this game, and to find out that it's coming to the PS3 with a boatload of extra goodies must seriously piss them off. Still, some of these demands are pathetic. Besides which, anyone with a brain should have seen this coming.

At the end of the day, when you deal with Namco Bandai, you must expect to be screwed. I've got limited sympathy for anyone that trusted the company over this one.

[Thanks, Unangbangkay]


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Zoel's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2009 16:33
Zoel
This is what Namco deserves for releasing the Beta on 360.
Scary Womanizing Pig Mask's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2009 16:37
Scary Womanizing Pig Mask
Is this game good?
Super Drybones's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2009 16:37
Super Drybones
"Certain platforms should not be favoured over others."
Boy I sure hope they don't meet themselves...
Shin Oni's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2009 16:37
Shin Oni
this can really go for a lot of shit Namco Bandai's done this generation. Like trying to sell in game money for real money. In MMOland, that's illegal.

and then there's Katamari's DLC nonsense...Eternal Sonata got screwed here too, and Soul Calibur 4's DLC bit. we can go on....
Zoel's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2009 16:41
Zoel
But Eternal Sonata doesn't have trophies.
wanderingpixel's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2009 16:42
wanderingpixel
•The games should not be dispersed across multiple platforms, they should be [i]consolidated onto one platform [i.e. Xbox 360].

•Certain platforms should not be favoured over others.

WTF?
Chibi_Zero's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2009 16:42
Chibi_Zero
This was unexpected...
Zippyduda's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2009 16:49
Zippyduda
"[i]•The games should not be dispersed across multiple platforms, they should be [i]consolidated onto one platform [i.e. Xbox 360].

•Certain platforms should not be favoured over others.[/i]"

DURP DE DURP DURP DURPIDY DOO

Contradiction + hypocrisy = FAIL

So they want it to not be on PS3? (haha don't make me laugh, remove a game from a platform, do you even KNOW how buisness' work? XD), but at the same time they don't want certain platforms to be favoured? Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.

Guys, just come out and say it, come on, say it with the rest of the silly people in this petition: "We are fanboys, and don't want good games to come out on the PS3", go on, it'll make you feel a lot better :] I promise.
Super Drybones's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2009 16:50
Super Drybones
More like "We bought this fucking piece of green shit for RPG's and now Sony is getting them and I don't have any money or will left to buy a PS3."
Zippyduda's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2009 16:51
Zippyduda
Woops :] BBcode fail :). You know what I meant :P
Los255's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2009 16:53
Los255
DURR HURR, Let's do a Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 petition then. DURR HURR.
timtheterrible's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2009 16:55
timtheterrible
Same thing happened with MGS 2: Substance going to the Xbox. It's funny how this time, it's the other way around.
CaptainBus's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2009 16:55
CaptainBus
Good luck with the petition, guys. When you're done, make sure you put it next to the "Resident Evil 4" petition, the "Grand Theft Auto 3" petition, the "Devil May Cry 4" petition, the "Metal Gear Solid" petition and the "Bioshock" petition.
Miguelcar808's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2009 16:56
Miguelcar808
I still haven't bought Tales for the 360 in hopes of the PS3 European anouncement after the Eternal Sonata for the PS3 (now I have two).
I only got Infinite Undiscovery because MS owns the IP.
I'm still waiting for Star Ocean
Patney's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2009 16:57
Patney
I kinda agree with them, but most of the demands are ridiculous. What they SHOULD be doing is giving the extra content as DLC for the 360, and it should be free (since we bought the game for the same price PS3 owners are going to pay).
wanderingpixel's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2009 16:57
wanderingpixel
I'm starting my own petition. And it's going to have beer, blackjack and hookers! In fact, forget the petition. Oh, and forget the beer and blackjack. In fact, just forget the whole thing.
aZZmodan's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2009 16:57
aZZmodan
Duh...?
CRAZYAPE69's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2009 16:57
CRAZYAPE69
''certain platforms should not be favoured over others'' i smell contradiction
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2009 16:57
Jim Sterling
"Is this game good?"

I personally wasn't impressed, but I've been so burnt out on console JRPGs that it's going to take something amazing to make me raise an eyebrow anymore. Everything's just so ... the same.
Nic128's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2009 17:00
Nic128
I too have bought my 360 over this one game, but I don't care, I played the hell out Tales of Vesperia, and I will absolutly play it again with the bonus stuff. It's just that good to me.
Infamy's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2009 17:02
Infamy
At least the game isn't coming out for PS3 anywhere outside of Japan, so I can care less.
Mushman's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2009 17:04
Mushman
This is why you should never, ever buy a fairly expensive console for just one game. The monetary sacrifice is just not worth it.

Especially, as you said yourself Jim, if money hungry Namco is behind it. Anyone who knows even a little of Scamco's business practices would've seen this coming. I you do intend to buy any console of this generation, do so only if there is a decent amount of games that will not only interest you, but justify the purchase of the console. Impulse buys, like in this case, usually are not worth it at all. Now you have consumers who spent a significant amount of money and now probably wished they didn't

I spent a ton of money on my PS3 (320 pounds) and got out of it God knows how much playtime. Sure my intention was to jump into the current generation with GTA4 as my first game, but I made damn sure there were plenty of other games that warranted a purchase of the console, thus ensuring the very large price tag of the PS3 was worth it. Same with the purchase of my DS lite recently, though that was much less in price.

Yes, it is a dick move by Scamco, and previous behaviour by them this generation (Shin Oni listed some examples) has highlighted just how penny pinching they are, but, in the end, it's the fault of the people who spent a lot of money on one game. This, of course is speculation, they may very well brought other games, but by the wording of the petition, it seems they have brought a 360 just for this game. Certain points seem to point this out.

Yes, I do feel empathy for them believing in a shitty company like Namco to only ever release the game for the 360, and the subsequent purchase of a fairly expensive console that probably left them out of cash. Especially since there is now a recession and money is tight in most counties, icluding Japan. I do feel a little sorry for them buying into Namco's BS, I really do. I am sure we gamers had at least one experience of buying into false promises by the gaming industry. But it's only their fault, not Namco's, they are a business, first and foremost. Getting as much money off of consumers is what companies do.

Writing such a nonsensical, immature, idiotic and downright stupid petition won't get them anything, or anywhere. This is just a way of letting themselves feel better for allowing themselves to be cheated out of whatever they felt entitled to. Instead of thining maybe they should make informed choices next time, or not believe a company's false promises, the choose to blame the company for their own mistakes, choosing not to think in a sensible manner.

I just find this situation saddening.
Mirax's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2009 17:05
Mirax
I couldn't help but to start laughing when I read the "official apology" thing.
Necro BABS's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2009 17:05
Necro BABS
I want an apology as well.
Mentok the Mindtaker's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2009 17:12
Mentok the Mindtaker
Seriously these people need to stfu...
Kvb's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2009 17:12
Kvb
I actually agree with these people. I absolutely hate ports with differences in them. The real fans will obviously buy the first version that comes out, and if you then load a whole lot of extras onto the other version... Well, that's just bullshit.
And this is coming from someone who's barely even heard of the game.

It just reminds me too much of the 16-bit era. When game ports had differences in them due to hardware limitations.
(Such as Earthworm Jim, where you had to choose between shit music or one missing level.)
Cahuatijo's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2009 17:12
Cahuatijo
Patty Fleur? Are you shitting me? Don't EVER get rid of Patty Fleur, please Namco.
froman46992's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2009 17:18
froman46992
release the dlc on xbla and they will stop bitching, as i see it this is proof that xbox is obsolete blu-ray holds way more and therefore they can make improvements on titles like this, also im getting over having exclusives on my console of choice if its a good game spread the love man and maybe one day i can play a mmo on my ps3 with my friends who only have xbox
Dan CiTi's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2009 17:18
Dan CiTi
I like this game a lot, and I'll happily buy it for PS3 if it gets released here.

An apology? They don't owe you anything! What makes people think they are entilted to an apology? This is like L4D2 all over again.
Cynical Gamer's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2009 17:20
Cynical Gamer
The Tales games haven't been good since the SNES days.
ParaParaKing's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2009 17:20
ParaParaKing
Wait? Isn't this like months old, when the game was announced for PS3?

I already played through Tales of Vesperia four times on the 360 and am happy to play through it again on the PS3 with all the added stuff.

Also a fun comment from Yoshinori Kitase (Executive Producer of FF13) I heard at Gamescom: Real gamers in Japan have all the consoles anyway, so it doesn't really mater where we put the games as a developer.
Happymeowmeow's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2009 17:21
Happymeowmeow
I wonder if Muramasa is ever going to get a port, I'd love to see in HD some day, maybe give it customizable controls too.

Just a random brain fart, have no opinion specifically on this whatsoever except that Nerd Rage is cool.
Emrah's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2009 17:23
Emrah
"The games should not be dispersed across multiple platforms, they should be consolidated onto one platform [i.e. Xbox 360]."

Wow, hypocrisy at its bluntest. So many fails with their reasonings, it doesn't even need to be pointed out.

@Super Drybones
'"Certain platforms should not be favoured over others."
Boy I sure hope they don't meet themselves...'

I ROFLD.. Excellent comment.
pedrovay2003's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2009 17:24
pedrovay2003
There's still no point to the rage. That's what happens when you buy a console for one game.
ryderbackside's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2009 17:31
ryderbackside
I hope this is the start of a beautiful new trend.
WarZombie's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2009 17:33
WarZombie
Lol at third-party conse exclusives. That trend died (For the most part) at the beginning of this generation, so really all fanboys crying over games jumping to other consoles should just stfu. I mean, it has gotten to the point where companies consider a game " exclusive" when it isn't releasing on other consoles but is releasing on PC. This is fucking rediculous.
Jon B's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2009 17:36
Jon B
Normally, I'd tell them to STFUAJPG, and some of the points given just reaffirm this.
But the PS3 port has recieved a hell of a lot of upgrades from the 360 version, and especially considering that this game was exclusive, it's pretty fucking harsh on people who bought the console just for this game.
Monodi's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2009 17:42
Monodi
I generally don't give a shit when third part games decide to move their titles to another console.
KrazyKraut's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2009 17:44
KrazyKraut
Here is something i want from those enraged WICHSBOX360 pussies:

- STFUAJPG
- get a tissue
- STFUAJPG
- S*ck my sweaty hairy b*lls
bmart008's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2009 17:45
bmart008
I can see people being upset about this, if they were told that it was exclusive and then it jumped ship and is suddenly a lot longer with better this that etc. I would be upset too. Especially if they bought the 360 just for that game. Companies really need to speak to their consumers better and tell sony/microsoft that "we're going to say it's a timed exclusive alright?" But then again a lot of problems come up. Like people not buying it until the other version comes out... etc. But at least the consumers could make an informed decision.
Dan CiTi's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2009 17:45
Dan CiTi
@Jon B

People who buy a console for a single game are numskulls anyway, people need to understand that things like this are going to happen. The game wasn't REALLY exclusive anyway, since Microsoft didn't own the IP in any way.
Bigmoose85's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2009 17:46
Bigmoose85
Cry us a river xbox 360 weebols

TREY 4 LIFE!
Qraze's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2009 17:46
Qraze
hahaha.
-PL-'s Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2009 17:53
-PL-
Nobody should ever take the word "exclusive" seriously anymore. Unless the game is made by a first party developer, somebody's probably gonna want to make some extra money by porting it to other consoles.
MasterBalls's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2009 17:55
MasterBalls
As an Xbox owner, I gotta say thats pathetic. You think people willing to go to such stupid lengths to make a fuss like this would be able to shell out for a PS3
dwolfwood's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2009 17:58
dwolfwood
Sucks for them, Japanese players are always getting screwed when it comes to 360. But at the same time, I don't see why people gain satisfaction from other's misfortune. In this case ps3 owners not getting able to play Tales would make these people happy.

@Infamy
I don't understand why you find comfort in that, as it relates to what I just said. However, good thing ps3 games aren't region locked(Fallout 3 being the understandable exception.) Hopefully I'll be playing this and FF13 this holiday season. I'm in like a 2% category though, sucks for people who don't understand Japanese and await the US releases.
InfraredChimera's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2009 17:59
InfraredChimera
I don't mind when there is extra incentives to buy one version of the game over the other (ie Batman AA), but when its like adding a almost a whole new game to one over the other, than there is a reason to get pissed.
Occams electric toothbrush's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2009 18:06
Occams electric toothbrush
Meh, its a business. They don't owe you shit. Get over it or quit gaming. I doubt they care which. Personally, I'd like to see all these jackasses keep on gaming/complaining cause it gives me something to laugh at. Also, online petitions are like bringing a nerf crossbow to a gun fight. Good luck with that.
Avalon51's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2009 18:11
Avalon51
I thought the Left 4 Dead 2 bullshit was bad...
king kong five's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2009 18:18
king kong five
@dwolfwood
Fallout 3 is region locked? I didn't know this. Why?
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