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It should be pointed out that it is due to lack of ventilation in this case, as Jim says. I know that this is hard for fanboys to grasp, but this is not a confirmed Red Ring on the new xbox, nor will we know for some time if the issue still exists. I'm sure they'll be lots of misconceptions, anyway, though.
yeah, this won't be fun if it happens between saves.
thanks Microsoft for bringing the Windows experience to consoles.
thanks Microsoft for bringing the Windows experience to consoles.
So it's a bit like Ubisofts DRM, when it was first announced. You were playing a game with no ability to save for some time? Tough luck
God help us all if Microsoft ever finds a way to make themselves the soul provider of gaming hardware.
Hmm... well, this is technically better than the console bricking itself, but it certainly won't convince Sexualchocolate to buy one anytime soon. Well, this and all those pew pew space marines.
I don't see a problem with this. It makes sense.
If I'm a dumb fuck and leave my console in a Tupperware box, wrapped up in a towel and still playing games then at least this will prevent me from burning out my console.
If I'm a dumb fuck and leave my console in a Tupperware box, wrapped up in a towel and still playing games then at least this will prevent me from burning out my console.
Just wait for the "2001: A Space Odyssey" references...
I'll contribute: "I'm afraid I can't let you play that, Dave."
I'll contribute: "I'm afraid I can't let you play that, Dave."
this is definetly good news since its better waiting for few minutes than sending it in and waiting for a month
Who gives a fuck what a troll like sexual chocolate thinks anyway, this is a prick who judges people on the console they own and whether or not they're a "hardcore" gamer or not. I'd rather have a console that prevents me from
frying it than one that cooks itself from the inside out, I'd rather have a console that didn't do either, but what's the alternative? A ps3? No thanks.
frying it than one that cooks itself from the inside out, I'd rather have a console that didn't do either, but what's the alternative? A ps3? No thanks.
Any tech can overheat and malfunction. It's the user's responsibility to take care of it and give the damn thing proper ventilation, keep it off carpet, etc.
Jim: The idea is that since it shuts down once it hits a certain point, you won't have a box that overheats. Usually these sorts of issues are a snowball effect where the console gets more and more damaged due to being run while overheated until it finally needs to be replaced. This should *hopefully* make it so those scenarios dont happen.
Just hope that the tolerance level is pretty reasonable...
Just hope that the tolerance level is pretty reasonable...
I don't get how people can let their consoles get into such a state in the first place. I've still got my launch-day 360 going, never had to have it repaired, never failed on me. Keep 'em horizontal, away from heat sources and with a lot of room around them and you're fine. What the hell are people doing to their consoles which necessitates a big warning message and automatic shut down?
wow ........ can't MS make a good product? ? ? I was just telling my co-worker that ms should give everybody who suffered a red ring a free "new" 360. then i read this article hahahaha. aaaaaahhhh the simple joys of leaning, leaning to the PS3.
@Platinum Mike
So you'd still buy this thing knowing it's a piece of shit? Nice. As long as there are people dumb enough to buy it, why should Microsoft fix it????
So you'd still buy this thing knowing it's a piece of shit? Nice. As long as there are people dumb enough to buy it, why should Microsoft fix it????
@live by the sword - the device you used to make that comment has a thermal shutdown failsafe, too. It was also probably $300, too. What's really interesting is that the original 360 must not have had a system for thermal shutdowns.
@LittleBigD- I never said I'd buy it, I said I'd rather have a console that shuts itself down instead of slogging on through an internal heat wave and killing itself. Learn to read before you qoute me again.
It's a good safety feature to ensure the unit doesn't completely over heat.
I can see it being annoying in certain situations, but I'd rather have it shut down if need be then brick.
I can see it being annoying in certain situations, but I'd rather have it shut down if need be then brick.
That's SO STUPID.
1. You'd think I'd be easier and cheaper to solve the RRoD problem rather that develop a program to automaticaly shut it down.
2. What happens when your in the middle of a very important game online or off, and THIS happens? No thank you.
3. We can't make the 360 fail by rapping it in towels and forcing a red ring so MS will take the damn thing.
4. pancakes : awesome
I'm not buying this new xbox
1. You'd think I'd be easier and cheaper to solve the RRoD problem rather that develop a program to automaticaly shut it down.
2. What happens when your in the middle of a very important game online or off, and THIS happens? No thank you.
3. We can't make the 360 fail by rapping it in towels and forcing a red ring so MS will take the damn thing.
4. pancakes : awesome
I'm not buying this new xbox
I'm thinking the ps fanboys are getting upset that our console of choice isn't going to have a shitty lifespan anymore, one less thing for you twats to try and troll us on.
I think it's also important to note that "hasn't fixed the overheating problem" isn't exactly accurate. It's a totally new mobo, so if there's an overheating problem, it's a new overheating problem, because it's new processors, new mobo, new fan.
I luld a little bit at I just have a bad feeling about this, given Microsoft's commitment to making terrible things happen.
This reminds me of those old DOS games. Without a boot disk, they'd often crash randomly with the message, "Out of hunk!"
Having the console shut down before it gets too hot is a good start, but stopping the console from getting too hot in the first place would be even better.
Having the console shut down before it gets too hot is a good start, but stopping the console from getting too hot in the first place would be even better.
Thats a real shame. I was genuinely considering buying one. I have always been a playstation user. i was going to buy a slim360 to check out some games i missed. Before this I was always concerned about spending money on a console that could overheat and die so easily. But, this is now a whole new reason for me not to buy one. This means that they haven't designed a newer, better, non-breaking 360. They have just repackaged the old one. whats the point in that?
Like was said, this is TECHNICALLY better than a RRoD, but if this is MS's genius way to "fix" the original issue then it's beyond pathetic.
For the record, I know about 5 people that have had 360's RRoD on them and ALL of them had their systems in decently ventilated areas. The system ITSELF was designed in a faulty manor, it's not the consumer's fault in the least that RRoD's happen.
For the record, I know about 5 people that have had 360's RRoD on them and ALL of them had their systems in decently ventilated areas. The system ITSELF was designed in a faulty manor, it's not the consumer's fault in the least that RRoD's happen.
@TheStripe
I blog using a $50 dollar refurbished dell laptop & a $60 G1. They've never shut down due to overheating and they run 24/7. The fact is that M$ continues to sell products that are overpriced and poorly designed. I like a lot of the xbox360 games, yet due to poor reliability I couldn't bring my self to buy one. Maybe when it costs $120 or so.
I blog using a $50 dollar refurbished dell laptop & a $60 G1. They've never shut down due to overheating and they run 24/7. The fact is that M$ continues to sell products that are overpriced and poorly designed. I like a lot of the xbox360 games, yet due to poor reliability I couldn't bring my self to buy one. Maybe when it costs $120 or so.
"Having the console shut down before it gets too hot is a good start, but stopping the console from getting too hot in the first place would be even better."
I really want to see the environments that cause this to happen.
I really want to see the environments that cause this to happen.
I disagree plat mike, they will still troll you. They just have something different in their arsenal now. What is it? The rrod still hasn't been resolved, instead the time till the console possibly does it has been extended. So now when you're 2 kills away from a nuke in mwf2 and your system shuts down because the ventelation issue still hasn't been resolved I think you'd be pretty upset, I know I would.
@littlebigd ... .. exactly! what should of happened: angry mob with torches in hand run MS out of town, ms changes ways, makes good product out of pure fear of loosing thier base. (not out of pride or dare i say a good work ethic)
what did happen: do i really need to say that between 30%-50% of all 360's crash and burn. and still people spin and spin and spin like fucking politicions.
nobody with a brain says 360 has no good games... 360 hardware = shit.
what did happen: do i really need to say that between 30%-50% of all 360's crash and burn. and still people spin and spin and spin like fucking politicions.
nobody with a brain says 360 has no good games... 360 hardware = shit.
@ mrandydixon
When you gonna get it son? Nobody wants space marines. It's just something that's gotta happen.
When you gonna get it son? Nobody wants space marines. It's just something that's gotta happen.
It's what most PCs do. Unless you turn the feature off in the BIOS. I wonder if this is gonna be optional and you can turn it off in the settings.
I don't see why there's a need to troll a safety feature. The auto shutdown to prevent overheating has been built into mac computers for years. The problem will come if the 360 is shutting itself too often. We will have to see.
When my laptop is running out of batteries it goes to sleep mode and turns back on when I plug in the charger. Do you have a bad feeling about this too, Jim?
Well I would like to know how someone got the system to heat up this much in the first place. Are you shrink wrapping it and putting it in a pan when you play?
This doesn't sound like it will be very helpful, if you ask me. Shutting down the console doesn't solve the problem if the problem is ventilation issues. Though I guess it will be a good indicator to clean the console of dust and move it to a more open location.
If that solves the problem (cleaning and dusting) then we're good. But if the problem is still that the shitty hardware overheats for no reason, then your Xbox is still bricked; if you can only play the thing for an hour* at a time before it shuts itself down, then I still consider that a bricked console.
*pure speculation
If that solves the problem (cleaning and dusting) then we're good. But if the problem is still that the shitty hardware overheats for no reason, then your Xbox is still bricked; if you can only play the thing for an hour* at a time before it shuts itself down, then I still consider that a bricked console.
*pure speculation
Wii does the same thing. At least 360 warns you. The Wii just fuckin' shuts down.
Now I haven't updated my firmware in forever so maybe they've changed that but there was at least a time I know where the Wii just fuckin' shuts down without warning and it's SOOO annoying.
I don't mind a shut down to avoid overheating but gimme a few minutes to find a spot to save at.
Now I haven't updated my firmware in forever so maybe they've changed that but there was at least a time I know where the Wii just fuckin' shuts down without warning and it's SOOO annoying.
I don't mind a shut down to avoid overheating but gimme a few minutes to find a spot to save at.
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