I don't think the problem now is the RRoD as much as people complaining about the XBL problems.

and I see some people out there still want XBL to be free. If they REALLY wanted to be a reliable "game box" they'd let the buyers that don't have the falcon chip models exchange for the newer models with the falcon chips for free.

My second one has lasted almost a year, and my first did as well.

Right before my warranty goes out on the new one, Im going to overheat it and get a new Falcon system...

I don't understand people like witthaus that say, "My 360 is fine. It's only fucked up once." That is not fine. I've had my NES for 20 years at least, and not once has it gone out. I've had my PS2 for like 10 years and it has never given me problems. THOSE

I don't understand people like witthaus that say, "My 360 is fine. It's only fucked up once." That is not fine. I've had my NES for 20 years at least, and not once has it gone out. I've had my PS2 for like 10 years and it has never given me problems. THOSE are quality products. When I pay $350+ for a gaming console, it better work, and I shouldn't have to worry about it screwing up, unless I personally do something to make it screw up.

I actually got Rock Band for the PS3 instead of the 360 because I thought, at least it won't RRoD on me and I can actually play it. My 360 has RRoD'd on my twice. I don't know anyone who hasn't had theirs RRoD on them. So less fail for the win.

Should we really trust a group that was banned from CES?

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it's my favorite video game box.

I'm glad this topic was brought up, because I'm currently without my 360. It broke back in early December. So Microsoft sent me a broken one. Naturally. Your system breaks you get a broken one back...right. So now I have to send this broken one back. I've been waiting almost two weeks now for them to send the box, via fed-ex. It supposed to arrive today, according to the tracking number.

So yeah, I have a few questions for all those that went through this headache. The man on the phone told me. Since this is my second time. We will be sending you a new replacement unit. What does he mean by new? New as in a new system in the box, like bought from a store?, or just a new system taken out of the box? Because I don't get it. If they send me a new system. What do I do with my current HDD? Will it work on the new system? Do I lose my content?

The RRoD is pretty much the only reason keeping me from buying the 360. If MS doesn't fix the problem soon, I'll be getting a PS3.

its still got the best games.

So, does this mean my 360 dieing now was really a blessing in disguise?

(don't answer that, because I have already come to the conclusion that it was. I get a free month of XBL and my warranty extended another three years. I don't care who you are, that almost makes up for my 360 failing. Almost).

The day Microsoft makes a product that doesn't suck is the day they make a vacuum.

They really need to make it look reliable now or else no one will buy their next system at launch if doesn't come with a 2-3 years warranty.

What else do you expect anyone at MS to say, "We expect to have the same level of quality with our hardware?"? Perhaps, "We don't plan on changing a damn thing, we're fine as is."?

Of course they going to say all the pie in the sky stuff they can, doesn't mean it's true.

lol @ Novakaine

But seriously, this Bill Gates comment infuriates me... He has somehow described a console with the worst reliability ever seen in gaming as "the most reliable video game box out there".

His escape clause is the little "it will be" that precedes the statement.

I feel sorry for the people who bought a 360 and just want it to work all the time. Especially when they have to hear this self-congratulatory tripe from the people who sold them a system that causes so much trouble.

The 360 has great games, but someone needs to take responsibility for the awful build quality.

@bbrigg1

I agree!

The comment above made me laugh about the 360 being a champ and crapping out 8 months into it's life span.

Lets say that the 360 has a 30% failure rate, of the 16 million sold that would mean 4.8 million have junked out, sure sounds reliable to me. Even a 1% failure rate would show almost 500,000 junked systems, which is not a small number by any means. Also, out of the 16 (or 17) millions 360's sold, what % of that total is becuase of people picking up a 2nd or 3rd unit? I would like to know.

I still have my NES, SNES, lauch ps2, ps3 and Wii and they work fine with no errors (so far).

I've got the Falcon chipset in my system. It does seem to run a bit cooler, even after a 2 hour "marathon" (I'm in grad school...no more 6 hr sprints for me) and it's barely warm, as opposed to my last 2 systems, which had a bad habit of giving 3rd degree burns to anyone nearby. I wish I could quiet the fans without voiding my warranty, but I'll take what I've got.

I wrote this above and wondered if anyone had some input on it:

Let's say that the 360 has a 30% failure rate, of the 16 million sold that would mean 4.8 million have junked out, sure sounds reliable to me. Even a 1% failure rate would show almost 500,000 junked systems, which is not a small number by any means. Also, out of the 16 (or 17) millions 360's sold, what % of that total is becuase of people picking up a 2nd or 3rd unit? I would like to know.

Also, BrOnXbOmBr21, I agree it takes time to build an image and only seconds to destroy it.

@BrOnXbOmBr21

Makes sense and sounds good,I just wanted some insight into the matter, thanks!

I would just like to say that our school system has a 30% failure rate at teaching math.

i'll b happy if console worky

Cooler chips? All I want is my 360 to have a DVD drive that doesn't spontaneously go ballistic and scratch my COD4 disc, and then proceed to fail entirely. After 9 months.

@Quest

I'll try to respond on the same grade level as you...

u r ghey!

Yay.

Your command of the english language is astounding...