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shouldnt that say "coming with composite instead of component cables"? unless ive been mistaken about which is which this entire time :O
It sounds like a reasonable way to cut some money off the price if u still haven't went HD as of yet, like me.
Sweet! I may have to replace mine (again) if insurance keeps dicking me around. Couldn't have come at a better time.
@bardock:: Component is the one with 3 *component* video signals (and can do HD). Composite is only one video signal that is a *composite* of all the signals (the yellow plug). I think that the article might have an error. If the Elite comes with Component, you get HD out of the box.
Well, looks like I'm gonna be a PS360 owner pretty soon here. Glad I waited and didn't spring for a pro, the elite will look nice with my ps3 - and the rest of my setup, which is also black.
If they included Wi-Fi, that would place the Elite square against the PS3 (on a hardware level, ignoring the absence of Bluetooth and Blu-ray).
Every single system on the market—Wii, PS3, DS/DSi, PSP/PSPgo, iPhone/iPod touch (even the Zune HD, purportedly)—has Wi-Fi. Why Microsoft, why? >.<
Every single system on the market—Wii, PS3, DS/DSi, PSP/PSPgo, iPhone/iPod touch (even the Zune HD, purportedly)—has Wi-Fi. Why Microsoft, why? >.<
@ natetehgreat: Because they want to trick everyone into buying their $100 attachment for it.
Seriously though, good third-party wi-fi attachments are between $10-20. It's not a big deal.
Seriously though, good third-party wi-fi attachments are between $10-20. It's not a big deal.
I generally like to just plug an Ethernet cable into my PS3, my laptop only uses wifi outside of the house.
Seriously Microsoft, aren't HDMI cords like a dollar? Or even less if you would be buying them in bulk?
As for why neither the PS3 or 360 ship with HDMI cables, well it just doesn't make sense to include cables that 1) many people still have no use for (while they do have a use for composite cables) and 2) what length of HDMI cable do you include?
On #2, people who have a use for HDMI cables tend to have somewhat elaborate setups involving receivers and/or wall mounts and/or custom in-wall wiring. If you include a cable that's too short, people won't use it. If it's too long, people won't use it. With HDMI cables being dirt cheap when bought through places like monoprice.com (not spamming), there's very little point in including HDMI cables.
On #2, people who have a use for HDMI cables tend to have somewhat elaborate setups involving receivers and/or wall mounts and/or custom in-wall wiring. If you include a cable that's too short, people won't use it. If it's too long, people won't use it. With HDMI cables being dirt cheap when bought through places like monoprice.com (not spamming), there's very little point in including HDMI cables.
Oh. How convenient eh?
@Natetehgreat: Don't forget the 120 GB hard drive too. I won't be interested unless Microsoft drops the price for that thing. Until a more reasonable price range is reached, the PS3 Slim will be on top of my list. Honestly an original Xbox for fifty USD is more appealing. It's probably just as fun.
@Natetehgreat: Don't forget the 120 GB hard drive too. I won't be interested unless Microsoft drops the price for that thing. Until a more reasonable price range is reached, the PS3 Slim will be on top of my list. Honestly an original Xbox for fifty USD is more appealing. It's probably just as fun.
As I said on 1up and in a GT thread post.
Looks too real not to be.
Can imagine the deal will come to US as well but I can't see anyone rushing out to by this the same way they will the Slim.
People forget that the 360 was already widely successful where as the PS3 (kinda) lagged behind. A lot of people wanted one but couldn't afford the price tag... now the drop has happened a lot of people will get one (my friend just pre-ordered).
Whereas the 360 has always been affordable so a price drop and great bundle won't have the exact same effect the slim will.
Looks too real not to be.
Can imagine the deal will come to US as well but I can't see anyone rushing out to by this the same way they will the Slim.
People forget that the 360 was already widely successful where as the PS3 (kinda) lagged behind. A lot of people wanted one but couldn't afford the price tag... now the drop has happened a lot of people will get one (my friend just pre-ordered).
Whereas the 360 has always been affordable so a price drop and great bundle won't have the exact same effect the slim will.
So the US gets a nice price drop but in the UK the price stays the same at £229.90 and the Arcade goes up in price to £159.99...
Thanks a lot Microsoft.
Thanks a lot Microsoft.
@Loogibot,
While I too would like to see the 120GB 360 hard drive dropped to a reasonable price, it is included with the Elite (which is why I only noted the lack of Wi-Fi as a point of contention, at least on a hardware level; on a software/services level, Live in conjunction with Wi-Fi brings the price up to $450).
While I too would like to see the 120GB 360 hard drive dropped to a reasonable price, it is included with the Elite (which is why I only noted the lack of Wi-Fi as a point of contention, at least on a hardware level; on a software/services level, Live in conjunction with Wi-Fi brings the price up to $450).
I like how some are calling it a price cut: they're simply adding features to what was once the Pro. What was the difference between the pro and the elite:
1. Colour
2. Bigger Hard Drive
3. HDMI Cable. (Which they are removing)
So all you've got is the pro with a bigger HD and a change of colour.
1. Colour
2. Bigger Hard Drive
3. HDMI Cable. (Which they are removing)
So all you've got is the pro with a bigger HD and a change of colour.
I bought a 360 a few months after launch, so have I been playing with fucking non-HD cables this whole time?
I don't view this as Microsoft pulling into the lead again, so much as the playing field finally leveling off.
Now that both main models are the same price, the PS3 does look like a much better choice to me personally. Yeah, free online and blah blah blu-ray . . . all I'm interested in is which system has which exclusives, though. Now that they're both the same price, that's the only deciding factor for me.
And I've waited a long time to play some of those Playstation games.
Now that both main models are the same price, the PS3 does look like a much better choice to me personally. Yeah, free online and blah blah blu-ray . . . all I'm interested in is which system has which exclusives, though. Now that they're both the same price, that's the only deciding factor for me.
And I've waited a long time to play some of those Playstation games.
Does anybody know if this version has the good chipset (that doesn't red ring the console)? I might finally get an XBOX...
I read somewhere that NONE of the elites have jasper chipsets yet. Plus if that whole 54% fail rate news item that went round the other day is to be believed it would seem that no matter what chip you get you ain't safe from the RROD. Would seem to be more of a structural problem than a chip one.
Maybe they will fix it if they do a 360 slim. Which they probably won't because they would have done it already.
Maybe they will fix it if they do a 360 slim. Which they probably won't because they would have done it already.
@ Sony and MS
HDMI cables INCLUDE THEM YOU BONEHEADS there like 6 bucks.
now that thats out of my systems, I really don't see this changing much, with the arcade out no one was yelling for a cheaper 360, we were yelling for them to fix the RROD, the damn disease is getting worse and harder to ignore, its even starting to become well know amongst non gamers. With the ps3 at 299 MS acting like the problem doesn't exist any more is only gonna hurt them in the end.
HDMI cables INCLUDE THEM YOU BONEHEADS there like 6 bucks.
now that thats out of my systems, I really don't see this changing much, with the arcade out no one was yelling for a cheaper 360, we were yelling for them to fix the RROD, the damn disease is getting worse and harder to ignore, its even starting to become well know amongst non gamers. With the ps3 at 299 MS acting like the problem doesn't exist any more is only gonna hurt them in the end.
It seems Moneysoft has seen Sony getting away with adding non High def cables in their system and still being able to push them out. This shit really irritates me even though I had a HDMI cable and components for my 360.
don't throw me a sales pitch and not include the whole sale. Why haven't people spoken out about this shit?
don't throw me a sales pitch and not include the whole sale. Why haven't people spoken out about this shit?
People that are pissed off about the lack of HDMI:
Get them on Amazon for like $3 including shipping
http://www.amazon.com/HDMI-meter-foot-cable-1080P/dp/B0002L5R78/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1251076020&sr=8-1
I ordered one a while ago and it's still going strong.
Get them on Amazon for like $3 including shipping
http://www.amazon.com/HDMI-meter-foot-cable-1080P/dp/B0002L5R78/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1251076020&sr=8-1
I ordered one a while ago and it's still going strong.
@Anus Mcphanus
i know, what the hell is with that?
in australia the ps3 slim is AUD$494 whereas last week the older model was costing AUD$688. i was thinking of getting a new xbox for the larger hard drive but ill be getting a ps3 slimwhen i can.
blue ray and built in wireless definitely push it over the edge.
i know, what the hell is with that?
in australia the ps3 slim is AUD$494 whereas last week the older model was costing AUD$688. i was thinking of getting a new xbox for the larger hard drive but ill be getting a ps3 slimwhen i can.
blue ray and built in wireless definitely push it over the edge.
Not surprising. I'm just curious to know how long before Nintendo realizes that being just fifty dollars shy of the two much more powerful systems is unacceptable.
Quote from the article at joystiq -
"Oh, if only we lived up in America's Big White Hat!"
What the...?
That's not funny...I'm not freaking kidding.
"Oh, if only we lived up in America's Big White Hat!"
What the...?
That's not funny...I'm not freaking kidding.
I'm just hoping 360 hard drive prices go down considerably from their current ridiculous pricepoint. After recently picking up Rock Band 2, I can see that song downloads and whatnot are going to kill the F out of my hard drive space.
I'm just hoping 360 hard drive prices go down considerably from their current ridiculous pricepoint. After recently picking up Rock Band 2, I can see that song downloads and whatnot are going to kill the F out of my hard drive space.
Guess I may be picking up an Elite sometime next year, since I traded up my Pro for a BC PS3 this year. I guess my trade was for the best.
You know I'm pretty glad about the fact that I waited to get a PS3. I'll finally feel like I have a current gen system.
so pitiful. Microsoft doing w/e it can to fight Sony and Nintendo while ripping people off. You guys to blind to see it. Why did they hold off to right after Sony did the PS3 Slim, why didn't they do it sooner? ah cuz people don't have a choice back then, now they do, so we need to fix that. And look at all of you willing to buy a 2nd(and above) console for replacement for the RROD version.
Pathetic.
Pathetic.
As a very happy 360 owner, this makes no sense whatsoever.
Let me explain:
At $299, the PS3 Slim has a 120GB HDD, built-in WiFi, and can play Blu-ray discs.
The 360 Elite has 120GB HDD, NO BUILT-IN WiFi, AND CANNOT PLAY BLU-RAY DISCS!!!
So is Microsoft looking to be dethroned by Sony!? They have built up such a huge lead in sales and market share over the past 3 years over Sony due to the initial, and up until now, continued high cost of having Blu-ray capability, which forced Sony into a much higher MSRP than the Xbox 360, that now they are just going to throw it all away and get slaughter in Christmas sales!?
[...Holy run-on sentence, Batman!]
I fear that Microsoft is in for a very, very rude awakening.
Let me explain:
At $299, the PS3 Slim has a 120GB HDD, built-in WiFi, and can play Blu-ray discs.
The 360 Elite has 120GB HDD, NO BUILT-IN WiFi, AND CANNOT PLAY BLU-RAY DISCS!!!
So is Microsoft looking to be dethroned by Sony!? They have built up such a huge lead in sales and market share over the past 3 years over Sony due to the initial, and up until now, continued high cost of having Blu-ray capability, which forced Sony into a much higher MSRP than the Xbox 360, that now they are just going to throw it all away and get slaughter in Christmas sales!?
[...Holy run-on sentence, Batman!]
I fear that Microsoft is in for a very, very rude awakening.
You people keep bringing up WiFi and Blu-ray... which add nothing to gaming, and in some cases succeed in making games worse.
They're a long way from level pegging, the xbox still needs..
1) Extortionate "special" HDD
2) Controller chargers!! WTF?! Take the piss why don't you MS!?
3) WiFi adapter
4) Live Subscription
... and you still won't be able to play Uncharted / Socom / MAG / Killzone / LBP / MGS4 / Fat Princess despite having spent MORE on your console and overpriced perhipherals, which, by the way, has a 54% chance of dying.
So uh, yeah really level pegging there. A Console that costs more, doesn't play most of the best games, doesn't play the current HD film media, a terrible (almost criminal) failure rate, a paid for online service full of ads, doesn't run AVI files of a memory stick (tres important), doesn't allow you to use a USB keyboard / mouse, doesn't have a free music video streaming service, doesn't allow you to turn it into a freeveiw recorder, has online games full of children screaming profanities and still bends you over a barrel should you want any perhipherals by not allowing use of standard HDD's and headsets etc.
No thanks.
I'm personally thinking about getting a PS3 slim as a second console to the launch model PS3 in the living room. perhaps get a slim for the mrs.
I just couldn't live without playTV, Vidzone, Free online gaming, bluetooth headset, blu-ray, AVI files off USB sticks, the rich, diverse, interesting games library, or the 500gb HDD i got off ebay for £50.
Although if you want a box to put in your kids bedroom and keep them out of your hair for hours on end (read: bad parenting) until it dies in 1 maybe 2 years, if you're lucky, then by all means buy a 360.
I will say this though, Sony need to take a long hard look at some currency conversion rates. $299USD is NOT €299Euros. Neither is it £249GBP.
Wonder how much shipping would be to import a yanky PS3 slim to the UK??
Is the 360 region free? That's another handy perk of the black beauty.
1) Extortionate "special" HDD
2) Controller chargers!! WTF?! Take the piss why don't you MS!?
3) WiFi adapter
4) Live Subscription
... and you still won't be able to play Uncharted / Socom / MAG / Killzone / LBP / MGS4 / Fat Princess despite having spent MORE on your console and overpriced perhipherals, which, by the way, has a 54% chance of dying.
So uh, yeah really level pegging there. A Console that costs more, doesn't play most of the best games, doesn't play the current HD film media, a terrible (almost criminal) failure rate, a paid for online service full of ads, doesn't run AVI files of a memory stick (tres important), doesn't allow you to use a USB keyboard / mouse, doesn't have a free music video streaming service, doesn't allow you to turn it into a freeveiw recorder, has online games full of children screaming profanities and still bends you over a barrel should you want any perhipherals by not allowing use of standard HDD's and headsets etc.
No thanks.
I'm personally thinking about getting a PS3 slim as a second console to the launch model PS3 in the living room. perhaps get a slim for the mrs.
I just couldn't live without playTV, Vidzone, Free online gaming, bluetooth headset, blu-ray, AVI files off USB sticks, the rich, diverse, interesting games library, or the 500gb HDD i got off ebay for £50.
Although if you want a box to put in your kids bedroom and keep them out of your hair for hours on end (read: bad parenting) until it dies in 1 maybe 2 years, if you're lucky, then by all means buy a 360.
I will say this though, Sony need to take a long hard look at some currency conversion rates. $299USD is NOT €299Euros. Neither is it £249GBP.
Wonder how much shipping would be to import a yanky PS3 slim to the UK??
Is the 360 region free? That's another handy perk of the black beauty.
Oh yeah, and what MellowBunny and Detox said.
Mechamonkey - you are the reason the 360 has a 54% failure rate. You are telling them that it's acceptable, by buying replacements for RRoDed 360s.
You sir are Fail.
Mechamonkey - you are the reason the 360 has a 54% failure rate. You are telling them that it's acceptable, by buying replacements for RRoDed 360s.
You sir are Fail.
Quote "Danmartigan at 08/24/2009 02:19
You people keep bringing up WiFi and Blu-ray... which add nothing to gaming, and in some cases succeed in making games worse."
How does 50GB optical storage & Wi-Fi succeed in making games worse.
1. Wi-Fi is optional, there's still an 1GB ethernet socket on the PS3.
2. I haven't had any problems/lag gaming on Wi-Fi on the PS3.
3. KZ2 proved you don't need an install & games will run fine off Blu-Ray.
4. If the developers can't get to grips with how to put data on a Blu-Ray in an efficient manner they can always fall back on a mandatory installs.
It's amazing that the only people who moan about PS3 mandatory installs are 360 owners. All the while they're copying whole DVD's onto their hard drives to shut up their loud disc drives.
You people keep bringing up WiFi and Blu-ray... which add nothing to gaming, and in some cases succeed in making games worse."
How does 50GB optical storage & Wi-Fi succeed in making games worse.
1. Wi-Fi is optional, there's still an 1GB ethernet socket on the PS3.
2. I haven't had any problems/lag gaming on Wi-Fi on the PS3.
3. KZ2 proved you don't need an install & games will run fine off Blu-Ray.
4. If the developers can't get to grips with how to put data on a Blu-Ray in an efficient manner they can always fall back on a mandatory installs.
It's amazing that the only people who moan about PS3 mandatory installs are 360 owners. All the while they're copying whole DVD's onto their hard drives to shut up their loud disc drives.
I think certain pathetic fanboys are forgetting the motto of the website they're one.
Hey everybody! Shut the fuck up and just play games!
Hey everybody! Shut the fuck up and just play games!
I play games at home - at work I like to jump on the old destructoid and wind up some 360 fanboys.
And in my lunchbreak.... I play games - PSP FTW.
The pro-360 arguments really entertain me. It's like arguing that walking is faster than driving, or that Tapes had better sound quality than CDs. It's crazy.
I would probably have a heart attack if i met a 360 player who had the bollocks to admit that the PS3 is a far better machine but the 360 is cheaper.
I'm not afraid to admit that, the 360 IS cheaper, providing all you need is a WiFi-less, offline only games console and you have some way of getting free batteries - in that case, yes, the 360 is cheaper.
I'll also admit, that the 360 has some nice exclusive DLC (although I find the whole business practice immoral) and one, maybe two exclusive games that I'm a little jealous of. But nothing worth buying a 360 for, specially not from a company like Microsoft.
And in my lunchbreak.... I play games - PSP FTW.
The pro-360 arguments really entertain me. It's like arguing that walking is faster than driving, or that Tapes had better sound quality than CDs. It's crazy.
I would probably have a heart attack if i met a 360 player who had the bollocks to admit that the PS3 is a far better machine but the 360 is cheaper.
I'm not afraid to admit that, the 360 IS cheaper, providing all you need is a WiFi-less, offline only games console and you have some way of getting free batteries - in that case, yes, the 360 is cheaper.
I'll also admit, that the 360 has some nice exclusive DLC (although I find the whole business practice immoral) and one, maybe two exclusive games that I'm a little jealous of. But nothing worth buying a 360 for, specially not from a company like Microsoft.
Hardware company makes better hardware!? Pull the other one!
Their's nothing wring with being a fanboy but the way you troll 360 news topics is pathetic. Games consoles are about games, and in that repect no games console or computer is superior to another.
Their's nothing wring with being a fanboy but the way you troll 360 news topics is pathetic. Games consoles are about games, and in that repect no games console or computer is superior to another.
I welcome this price-drop. I don't need a new xbox, but I might just go out and buy the Elite, and give my Pro to my daughter.
To all the PS3-only guys, slating people for liking the Xbox, Fuck off. Seriously. Fuck off. Xbox360 is fast becoming my favourite ever gaming system in 30 years of gaming. No, I'm not a retard; just a very happy gamer who happens to own a 360.
Sexchocs, price-less as usual. ;o)
To all the PS3-only guys, slating people for liking the Xbox, Fuck off. Seriously. Fuck off. Xbox360 is fast becoming my favourite ever gaming system in 30 years of gaming. No, I'm not a retard; just a very happy gamer who happens to own a 360.
Sexchocs, price-less as usual. ;o)
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