Hmm, you want console wars? Happy to oblige good sirs.

That picture is most appropriate as Xbox 360s are made for children. When he grows up, he's going to play on PC.

THE FIRST SHOT HAS BEEN FIRED.

ooops!

This is really disappointing news, Microsoft. I only own a Ps3, and it's starting to freeze up a bit here lately. I fear I will soon become a statistic.

I give just about no credibility to the people that claim they've been through more than two; then you're just Doing It Wrong. Get it out from under the pile of shit in your room, or turn the AC on in your house every once in a while.

The lul here? The cheapest console out of them all is the most reliable. When you buy a Kia, you expect it to die. When you buy an Audi, you expect it to last a while.

Unfortunately Sony hasn't lived up to that in almost a decade.

Microsoft doesn't disappoint me because they never had anywhere to fall from, as compared to the Walkman that lasted me throughout the entirety of middle and high school.

teh micro$oft is a bag of suxrors!

I have a lot of 360 owning friends who almost seemed happy when they got the RROD. They were so proud that it was getting fixed for free that it was like MS was doing them a huge personal favor. I'll admit MS's customer service was pretty good when I sent mine in (it has died twice), but it still sucks.

PS3 is still running smooth since '07

I'm on my 3rd.

@GeorgeMichael
Uhh, what? The only occurances I've had RRoD were from turning on a cold console in a well ventilated area. Plus, my second one broke through the DVD drive buggering up. And in classic MS fashion, the new DVD drive is on its way out too.

Tempted just to rip the thing apart and install my own fans and DVD drive, fed up of repairs for no reason.

@ GeorgeMichael Kalafut my brother in law has had 3 rrods and most of his friends have had more than one- he doesn't do anything wrong with them, doesn't box or cover the console, they just die (not to mention the other hw issues that have happened like the drive dying on one and the stock controller battery frying after a couple of months)- seeing it first hand is why I haven't dropped the bones to get all 3 consoles and am just sticking w/ the ps3 and wii until there is a seriously compelling enough reason to get the 360 as well

Looks like the Microsoft Store will be plenty busy...

My flatmates were allergic to dust so my house was fucking crystal clean and my 360 still RROD twice. I played it maybe 10 hours a week.

My current machine in the UK, no problems.. touch wood.

Lol. Game Informer reader survey = useless horseshit.

The problem's certainly bad but 60% ? Oh yeah. Sure. Wwhen Kaz Hirai is jerking off maybe.

File this one under "Too good to vet" eh?

*clarification

In the last paragraph I mean the chance of RRODing more than once.

I've had bad luck this gen. I'm on my third 360, the first one was broken right out of the box! I'm also on my 2nd PS3 and my launch Wii couldn't connect to the internet. Must be my fault though cuz GeorgeMicheal says so!

That kind of failure rate == death of any company.

I just don't know how Microsoft does it. Or if this is just angry gamers ranting.

For me, I have three 360. One died (first gen). The other two worked just fine. I do use quite a bit as well. I say about average about 25~30 hours every week. Maybe I am just anomaly rather than norm.

"I have a lot of 360 owning friends who almost seemed happy when they got the RROD. They were so proud that it was getting fixed for free that it was like MS was doing them a huge personal favor. I'll admit MS's customer service was pretty good when I sent mine in (it has died twice), but it still sucks. "

i agree, when mine died i was a bit annoyed but i knew there was a free service to get it fixed. i had mine for well over a year and i kept mine in good condition. made sure it had good ventilation, nothing on top of it, on its side (flat) to stop laser burn to my discs. it did its job and MS had my xbox back in less than a week from the UK. even gave me a free month of live so i was happy.

You know what's awesome about being a PC gamer? If something fails I can open up the case and replace it without voiding warranties and that kind of shit. Oh, and I'm able to replace my own shit. I don't have to send my tower out to be repaired when I can either RMA a part under warranty or order a new part from Newegg and have it delivered ASAP and be up and running in no time.

Suck that, Xbox! (And to a somewhat lesser extent, PS3, what with your YLoD)

Hah, seems like I'm not making any friends here; let me clarify:

I'm a huge disbeliever in people playing the victim. I agree with you that this makes me an ass.

As for being a fanboy, not particularly. A good game is a good game on any console you choose to play it on. In case you didn't notice, I once was very happy with Sony. That was before DISK READ ERROR was as common on PS2's as the RRoD is on 360's, and before Ken Kutaragi told us that the PSP's abnormally high amounts of dead pixels and broken-by-design square button were "perfectly designed" and that we should all STFU and give him money.

Play whatever system you want, they're all great. I just can't stand 90% of the politics above the hardware level.

I purchased mind in Nov 2007 (Elite), it red ringed in Dec 2008. I'm working on my second console now. They sent me a refurbed Falcon hardware revision as a replacement. It's been stable thus far. The 360 is the center of my living room. When I'm not gaming, it's being used to stream audio / video. It runs at least 40 hrs. a week.

What I'm really interested in is the failure rate on the Jasper hardware. It would be interesting to know if they have ironed out most of the wrinkles with the new hardware.

360's break down. It sucks, but it hasn't stopped us from buying them. If my console breaks when it's out of warranty, I'll replace it with another 360. I don't have anything against the PS3, but I prefer the 360.

@ N0R3M0RS3

This is why I dislike laptops.

See you guys need to sterner to your 360s. If my 360 RROD'd even once I'm getting a PS3 that day no questions asked. I've told my 360 over and over kist in case it even thinks of RRODing and it's never done it.

The only big problem I have now is the belt but that's partially my fault since I've recently started watching Netflix and I have a habit of pausing a movie and doing something else for 3 hours hence I burn the shit out of my belt.

My second PS3 just died on me. First was 'YLOD', second was Blu-Ray reader lens/diode/whatever. Just replaced with a Slim, since they should be far more reliable.

I don't have much of a problem with things dying, it happens, my problem is with Sony wanting to charge you a retarded amount of money for a relatively simple fix and then only guaranteeing it for a further 3 months, after which you have to pay again. Oh, and point black refusing to take responsiblity for anything, ever.

At least Microsoft sorted themselves out in the end...

a colleague of mine currently has her sons 360 with a repairer, no warrantee, something about it being from a robbery insurance claim.

The repairer said yesterday "we have hundreds of 360's here. It's not a case of if it'll die, it's a case of when."

safe to say her son is getting a ps3 for christmas.

It's the reason i didn't get one, i don't understand the dependancy people have that keeps them coming back either. If dominos kept sending me cold pizza i would start using pizza hut.

I think it's 99% a case of "all my friends have them" which in turn is because they're so fucking cheap, which goes some way towards why they're so shit, which is why everyone has them, which is why....... Etc etc.

I now have enough ps3 friends to play a whole 8 man party on mw2 - last night was fun - and breakdown is not something i worry about.

Even though my launch model ps3 has had 1 fault (br drive) that sony fixed, out of warrantee, free. No class action threats, no legally required warrantee extension.

Thanks sony. Sucks to be a 360 user. Get a ps3, better games, better hardware, far far far more freedom, and comparible online experience for free.

It's a no brainer.

As anyone who reads this site regularly knows, I dropped my PS3 down the stairs a while back - dickhead.

But best of it is that it still works perfectly.

None of this, "I moved it while it was on" or "I moved it with a disc in it" or "I didn't position it at the perfect angle" - don't blame yourself! You shouldn't have to be so fucking careful of a fucking games console. Granted, you probably shouldn't drop it down the stairs, but you shouldn't have to sacrifice a virgin and drink their blood for luck before turning it on.

Also, this is RRoD only? As my 360 owning friends have also had...

Disk drive died.
Disk drive got stuck out.
Controller battery fail.
Graphics card / connection fail.
Disc scratch woes.
HDMI port troubles.
Fans sound like jet planes.
E74 - the new name for the RRoD, spread those errors out M$
Plus many many RRoD's and one red lights and two red lights, and no lights and various other ways a 360 says "I'm dead!".

I know nearly 20 people with 360's, every single one of which is on console number 2, 3 or even MOAR.

I know 10/12 people with PS3's, I'm the one and only person who has had a problem, which was fixed in 5 days, by Sony, for Free, outside of my warrantee.

You get what you pay for, but now reliability and the very best exclusives are cheaper than ever! Value my friends value for money.

Well, what can you expect from a company that sells you a dead cat?

Tha Meat: 60GB PS3? Mine started doing that, took it apart 5 times trying to replace the thermal paste and make it quieter. Which I've managed to do but only to a degree, it's still too loud but tolerable at this point. Seems like more paste than less is the answer. Maybe the fan is going as well, but short of taking one out of a still quiet-running 60GB I'm not sure there's any way to test that.

Looks like it'll be time to downgrade to a Slim pretty soon. I'll miss the PS2 compatibility, but it's not like I've used it in 8 months or so.

Jim: Can we get some journalism here, if not from the sited article then from you? If 32% of those who have had 360s die have had 2 die and 19% have had 3 (or more?) die then the total failure rate is MUCH higher than 60%. Why is it that reporting on this topic is ALWAYS incorrect? Is it that "journalists" are too stupid to do math or is it that they're just afraid to death of numbers, which confuse them?