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"Belive it or not, the survey data showed that only 3.8 percent of Xbox 360 owners said they'd never buy another Xbox because of these hardware failures."
I'm in that percentage. I'm never getting a Microsoft Console again. I might even try to replace my windows with linux at some point, or a Mac.
On a semi-related note, i never quite could enjoy my 360, because everytime i turned it on, it sounded like a freakin' plane engine. All the time i was waiting for it to get the red lights of doom.
I'm in that percentage. I'm never getting a Microsoft Console again. I might even try to replace my windows with linux at some point, or a Mac.
On a semi-related note, i never quite could enjoy my 360, because everytime i turned it on, it sounded like a freakin' plane engine. All the time i was waiting for it to get the red lights of doom.
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It's hard to just drop a system that many people have already dumped hundreds, even thousands of dollars into in terms of software, peripherals, Xbox Live, DLC, etc. Factor in also the amount of time many people have invested in saved games, and it's clear that it isn't simply an addiction, but instead a loss of the resources invested. If your computer broke, would you never buy another one? What if all the programs and files you had used over the years could only be compatible with that particular make of computer? Had a lot of people known that the 360 would be this problematic, they probably wouldn't have bought the console in the first place, or at least I wouldn't have.
It's hard to just drop a system that many people have already dumped hundreds, even thousands of dollars into in terms of software, peripherals, Xbox Live, DLC, etc. Factor in also the amount of time many people have invested in saved games, and it's clear that it isn't simply an addiction, but instead a loss of the resources invested. If your computer broke, would you never buy another one? What if all the programs and files you had used over the years could only be compatible with that particular make of computer? Had a lot of people known that the 360 would be this problematic, they probably wouldn't have bought the console in the first place, or at least I wouldn't have.
Those are some scary numbers for the 360 when it comes to hardware failure.
I do have a hard time believing though that 10% of PS3s don't work.
It's a little bit hard to believe but unlike Microsoft Sony acutally fixes the problem.
I do have a hard time believing though that 10% of PS3s don't work.
It's a little bit hard to believe but unlike Microsoft Sony acutally fixes the problem.
I really feel that MS isn't going to feel much backlash on this until the next generation (when and if that happens). If you got one now, and got it replaced for free, then it's an inconvenience, but you're still playing it and getting games for it, in the meantime. Even if you have to pay $100 to get it fixed, you are still better off financially than by buying the competitor's system for $400.
However, next time MS rolls out a console, there will be considerable skepticism, especially when the company is expecting those loyal early adopters. I know I won't be buying a new MS console within the first year of launch. Not after how poorly the 360 has done. Plus, with price drops and (mostly) improved hardware over time, early adopters get fucked each time. What was their reward? Getting to play Perfect Dark a year before everyone else?
If Sony was smart, they would have done a price cut long ago. For those who were outside their warranty, a $300 PS3 vs. $100 to fix a system that has brought you a lot of frustration and that you don't particularly trust to work correctly is a much harder choice.
However, next time MS rolls out a console, there will be considerable skepticism, especially when the company is expecting those loyal early adopters. I know I won't be buying a new MS console within the first year of launch. Not after how poorly the 360 has done. Plus, with price drops and (mostly) improved hardware over time, early adopters get fucked each time. What was their reward? Getting to play Perfect Dark a year before everyone else?
If Sony was smart, they would have done a price cut long ago. For those who were outside their warranty, a $300 PS3 vs. $100 to fix a system that has brought you a lot of frustration and that you don't particularly trust to work correctly is a much harder choice.
i have had 2 red rings of death and i hope when i get back my xbox it will be the last time hopefully but the fact is everbody ive known personally have had the three rings of death its just like something that will happen and since they fix it for free im totally dull to the fact that they breack eventually and have no cares for it as long as they kept fixing them but it is pretty bad thats they brack it is costing microsoft a ton to keep fixing it but all that xbox gold subscription money they get im sure there not hurting at all
The RRoD is the ultimate add-on in consoles history, thanks Microsoft. It's a shame, above the relatively good support service, because those 3 years won't last forever. Like an editor has sentenced before: MS has made us live with fear, and we accepted. I did. My first 360, bought in 2006, get RRod a year before. They fixed it and returned to me in 3 weeks, gave me 2 months free of Live Gold. It still keeps working. Six months ago I bought a Jasper. I'm a statistic.
I think it's disgusting that MS get away so easily with selling such shitty hardware. People do keep on buying it though.
I've got a 360 from 2006 that gets used quite a lot and it's still mostly working. The disc drive sticks and needs a tap to get it to open when I first switch the console on, which is annoying and reminds how the 360 is a cheap piece of shit but I guess it's better than the problems some people experience.
I won't be buying another if it breaks.
I've got a 360 from 2006 that gets used quite a lot and it's still mostly working. The disc drive sticks and needs a tap to get it to open when I first switch the console on, which is annoying and reminds how the 360 is a cheap piece of shit but I guess it's better than the problems some people experience.
I won't be buying another if it breaks.
360 would be the greater console of this generation if it wasn't for fatal errors in hardware. If they could just sort that out, there would be no question if the 360 was better than the other two.
But hey, look, they have not! And they are not.
But hey, look, they have not! And they are not.
My first X360 is over 3,5 years old now (have played through about 13 games on it so far), so for the sake of my mental health I'm just going to turn off the computer monitor now and start pretending that this topic doesn't exist...
That's pretty horrendous, although I've had my 360 for over a year now and haven't had any problems with it, thank God. I don't like that I expect it to happen some time though.
I think maybe one of the worst things about this is that 10 years or so down the line, when 360s are no longer manufactured, there will come a point where there are no working 360s left and no way of getting them replaced. Hopefully Microsoft makes their next console fully backwards compatible or we're all screwed.
I think maybe one of the worst things about this is that 10 years or so down the line, when 360s are no longer manufactured, there will come a point where there are no working 360s left and no way of getting them replaced. Hopefully Microsoft makes their next console fully backwards compatible or we're all screwed.
Until Microsoft is able to purge that profit loss, due to shitty testing, they hardly got away with it.
Could you imagine how successful the 360 would have been (Long-term), if MS actually did some thermal testing and hardware burn in (not burn-out) before pushing consoles to the consumers?
Either way you slice it, I'm willing to say that quite a few 360 owners will take a little more time, before scooping up that Day 1, next console release from MS.
I picked up a 360 in Winter of '07 and I've loved the games, just not the hardware. *knock on wood* I'm on my 2nd console. I really was going to get a Ps3, but the game selection (note the date) was not what I was looking for at that time.
Sony also had it's failures, and I feel the Hardware price, advertising, and Dev kits are their bane. If the game selection was up to snuff (Dec '07), the hardware was priced like a game console and advertised as such from the start, I have a feeling the PSN would be a bit larger. The lack of backwards compatitbiliy working across all models was also a personal turn-off.
I feel that the over-confidence Sony got from the Ps2, damned them on the Ps3. While the seemingly limitless finances of Microsoft, bit them in the ass, as they rushed their product to market, then tried to obscure the issues of RROD.
That concludes my pre-coffee rant. Maybe in the next console generation, they will go back to letting the customer define what they want, and not some marketing asshole. Backwards Compatibility, Stable Hardware?!?!? If you want to earn that console retail price, but some work into it.
Could you imagine how successful the 360 would have been (Long-term), if MS actually did some thermal testing and hardware burn in (not burn-out) before pushing consoles to the consumers?
Either way you slice it, I'm willing to say that quite a few 360 owners will take a little more time, before scooping up that Day 1, next console release from MS.
I picked up a 360 in Winter of '07 and I've loved the games, just not the hardware. *knock on wood* I'm on my 2nd console. I really was going to get a Ps3, but the game selection (note the date) was not what I was looking for at that time.
Sony also had it's failures, and I feel the Hardware price, advertising, and Dev kits are their bane. If the game selection was up to snuff (Dec '07), the hardware was priced like a game console and advertised as such from the start, I have a feeling the PSN would be a bit larger. The lack of backwards compatitbiliy working across all models was also a personal turn-off.
I feel that the over-confidence Sony got from the Ps2, damned them on the Ps3. While the seemingly limitless finances of Microsoft, bit them in the ass, as they rushed their product to market, then tried to obscure the issues of RROD.
That concludes my pre-coffee rant. Maybe in the next console generation, they will go back to letting the customer define what they want, and not some marketing asshole. Backwards Compatibility, Stable Hardware?!?!? If you want to earn that console retail price, but some work into it.
This is not a new phenomenon... Who remembers having to turn their PS1s upside-down to make the fuckers work after a year!? - happened to everyone I knew who had one...
But it is a shocking blight on the history of the 360, and I can only imagine the supreme dominance they'd now be enjoying in the HD console market, as opposed to the comfortable dominance, had this issue not existed...
Though I must say, I'm a little suprised at how everyone seems to be treating these statistics as totally reliable, seeing as how it's every PS3 fanboy's mission statement to exclaim the failure-rate of 360 at any given oppurtunity, and that would have to include lying about owning one and it failing x-many times, for a survey.
But it is a shocking blight on the history of the 360, and I can only imagine the supreme dominance they'd now be enjoying in the HD console market, as opposed to the comfortable dominance, had this issue not existed...
Though I must say, I'm a little suprised at how everyone seems to be treating these statistics as totally reliable, seeing as how it's every PS3 fanboy's mission statement to exclaim the failure-rate of 360 at any given oppurtunity, and that would have to include lying about owning one and it failing x-many times, for a survey.
It really is beyond me why people would keep buying / replacing consoles when 1 in 2 die?!?!
I mean my launch model PS3's Blu-ray drive died a while back - Sony picked up and fixed for free, but if it happened again I would consider buying a 360, but with a WORSE failure rate i wouldn't actually buy one!
What's happened is this...
1) People can't afford / refuse to pay for a PS3 - spout "360 is better" to ease their butthurt.
2) Same people's 360 dies, maybe 2 or 3 times.
3) Pride won't allow them to buy a PS3 because they've spent the last 4 years lying about how the "360 is the best".
4) They buy another 360 / get theirs repaired.
5) 50% return to number 1).
6) Microsoft sees massive 360 sales, despite legal action which leads to an extended warrantee.
7) Microsoft are rewarded for making a shit console, get so much cash from sales, even sales of replacements that they can afford exclusives and exclusive DLC - drawing in more sales.
Rinse repeat, rinse repeat, rinse repeat.
In a true free market, without monopolies and where people actually voted with their purchase and didn't buy borked hardware simply because they've spent years spouting lies about it and don't want more butthurt, the 360 sales would have plummeted by now and they would all be buying the FAR BETTER console, the PS3. - Then maybe Sony would have more cash to spend on bringing us more superb exclusives. Not only that but M$ would HAVE to make a more reliable, better constructed, probably more expensive console next time.
you can thank M$ for securing the welfare parents market for your broken 360, if they'd spent another $50 making the 360's they would have charged $70/$80 more and sold less to the welfare parents but supplied those who deserve a console a better machine.
It's completely wrong - they've hijacked the very workings of capitalism.
I mean my launch model PS3's Blu-ray drive died a while back - Sony picked up and fixed for free, but if it happened again I would consider buying a 360, but with a WORSE failure rate i wouldn't actually buy one!
What's happened is this...
1) People can't afford / refuse to pay for a PS3 - spout "360 is better" to ease their butthurt.
2) Same people's 360 dies, maybe 2 or 3 times.
3) Pride won't allow them to buy a PS3 because they've spent the last 4 years lying about how the "360 is the best".
4) They buy another 360 / get theirs repaired.
5) 50% return to number 1).
6) Microsoft sees massive 360 sales, despite legal action which leads to an extended warrantee.
7) Microsoft are rewarded for making a shit console, get so much cash from sales, even sales of replacements that they can afford exclusives and exclusive DLC - drawing in more sales.
Rinse repeat, rinse repeat, rinse repeat.
In a true free market, without monopolies and where people actually voted with their purchase and didn't buy borked hardware simply because they've spent years spouting lies about it and don't want more butthurt, the 360 sales would have plummeted by now and they would all be buying the FAR BETTER console, the PS3. - Then maybe Sony would have more cash to spend on bringing us more superb exclusives. Not only that but M$ would HAVE to make a more reliable, better constructed, probably more expensive console next time.
you can thank M$ for securing the welfare parents market for your broken 360, if they'd spent another $50 making the 360's they would have charged $70/$80 more and sold less to the welfare parents but supplied those who deserve a console a better machine.
It's completely wrong - they've hijacked the very workings of capitalism.
Sexualchocolate - you are literally so full of shit, I can smell you all the way out here in London...
No doubt the RROD is a bad, bad thing, But Sony should be thankful - had it not of happened, their share of the market would be even more disappointing than it is now.
Plus, when all is said and done, despite the hardware failures, the xbox360 is a fucking great games machine - you know games? - what these consoles are supposed to be? Anyone who honestly thinks that the 360 as a games machine is shit, is a deluded penis.
No doubt the RROD is a bad, bad thing, But Sony should be thankful - had it not of happened, their share of the market would be even more disappointing than it is now.
Plus, when all is said and done, despite the hardware failures, the xbox360 is a fucking great games machine - you know games? - what these consoles are supposed to be? Anyone who honestly thinks that the 360 as a games machine is shit, is a deluded penis.
Hey Chaos, that shit you can smell? It's falling out your mouth, landing on your keyboard.
No-one said the 360 or the PS3 weren't games machines, they're both games machines, except one of them is also a blu-ray player, DVD player, media centre, internet browser, Digital TV recorder too. The other has a >50% failure rate.
Yet stupid people keep buying the cheap one that breaks a lot and the expensive one that works as described and does SHIT LOADS more than it has to is suffering because, people are stupid, people are tight and a massive amount of console sales are made by parents, for little kids, who don't want to spend what a PS3 costs.
Any ADULT buying a console should look at the features vs costs and choose the PS3 - it's a fucking no brainer. Surely Halo and Gears of wank aren't worth having a console with a 1:2 failure rate? or are they worth not being able to watch High Def movies? Or are they really worth paying for your online? Or are they really worth having your online games filled with little kids screaming ghey?
Really? - If you really think that - you must be fucking retarded.
No-one said the 360 or the PS3 weren't games machines, they're both games machines, except one of them is also a blu-ray player, DVD player, media centre, internet browser, Digital TV recorder too. The other has a >50% failure rate.
Yet stupid people keep buying the cheap one that breaks a lot and the expensive one that works as described and does SHIT LOADS more than it has to is suffering because, people are stupid, people are tight and a massive amount of console sales are made by parents, for little kids, who don't want to spend what a PS3 costs.
Any ADULT buying a console should look at the features vs costs and choose the PS3 - it's a fucking no brainer. Surely Halo and Gears of wank aren't worth having a console with a 1:2 failure rate? or are they worth not being able to watch High Def movies? Or are they really worth paying for your online? Or are they really worth having your online games filled with little kids screaming ghey?
Really? - If you really think that - you must be fucking retarded.
in thegreen and white corner... Chaaaaaaaaos Teeeaaaacup
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in the black corner.... Seeeeeeexual Choccccolate
i gotta support welfare basher on this one!
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in the black corner.... Seeeeeeexual Choccccolate
i gotta support welfare basher on this one!
You're the fucking Retard, and now you've pissed me off so I'm going to fucking stick it to you. I'm fucking 10 years older than you, you little shit, so don't cop the adult crap with me. I was playing video games before you were born - in fact the year you were born was the year I got my first computer: the Acorn Electron - so shitty you had to program most of the games in yourself. Before that I had even crappier little consoles, you know; the ones with the paddle and the two sticks and a ball - *bip* *bip* *bap* So don't try to tell me what makes a good system - I'm well aware of what I like in gaming. The 360 games machine is fucking great system, and that's all I care for. I know that the PS3 is a good games system too, but it is bogged down by all the shit you like to brag about, hence the schizofrenic nature of its status. And jumped up little pricks like you, telling me that my system is shit because you bought the other one, is fucking retarded. The failure rate is a bad thing, and I would never deny it, but it's rescued by the quality of the gaming which can be had on the system. And speaking of failure rates; Sony did it early on, and got away with it, so don't preach like Sony are some fucking kind of great example, because they're not. They're a third rate electronics company, who happened to strike gold three times: Sony Walkman in the 80s, and the PS1/2 in the 90s. All Iconic, but ended up no way near as good as the competition which grew out of their innovation. Try to tell me about what's good - I've seen every step of the video game history, and loved much of it. Gears of wank as you so twattingly put it, might not be your cup of tea, but I can't think of a better new IP to come out of video games in the last 5 years in terms of content, and popularity. Yeah you made me mad, I hate it when jumped up little pricks talk to me like I'm some kind of spastic. Watch your fucking mouth. Totally lost my cool. Hmmmph..
Hey Munkee, thanks for your support. I wouldn't say I'm a welfare basher, but for 360 users to spout the whole "360 has sold many more" need to be discounted HEAVILY due to the MILLIONS of welfare parent sales and the MILLIONS of replacement 360 sales.
At least here in the UK, I do not pay tax so it can be given to those who don't want to work to buy their KIDS 360's.
BLACK CORNER ALL THE WAY!
At least here in the UK, I do not pay tax so it can be given to those who don't want to work to buy their KIDS 360's.
BLACK CORNER ALL THE WAY!
*exhales*
Shit. That's probably the angriest post I've ever made. I don't know why I got so wound up by your crackpot bullshit. I feel slightly silly now.
Man you riled me there.
Shit. That's probably the angriest post I've ever made. I don't know why I got so wound up by your crackpot bullshit. I feel slightly silly now.
Man you riled me there.
Fuck you Chaos cocksmith.
You're missing my point dickhead. Sure the 360 and Gears of War look popular, but like i say with MILLIONS of their sales being welfare parents, little kids and replacement consoles, quality cannot be judged by mass appeal when we live in a world such as ours.
If the 360 and the PS3 cost the same amount then the number of sales / popularity could be used as a scale to judge which is best. Not the cheapest one is most popular (during a fucking recession!!!!) so it's clearly better.
The PS3 gives me and Millions of others everything we want from a games console, plus much much more. Whereas the 360 gives millions of people an error message and a kick in the balls for spending money on it.
Microshaft have been fucking over consumers since the early 90's, limiting what works with their software, cornering consumers into buying overprices perhipherals and generally fucking people like you in the ass while you ask for more.
Sony have been known for quality since the days of the Walkman, even today it's a well know fact that for sound quality in an audia device you go to Sony, despite the ipod selling in it's millions to the sheep of the world who want something pretty with a well known buzz-name that their friends have.
Being older doesn't make you wiser fuckwit. i think you've clearly relinquished any Wisdom you might have by so blindly ranting on behalf of a company who has been fucking you in the arse since day one.
Capitalism should work by products like the 360 losing sales due to problems like this, forcing them to fix the problem, not by them cutting corners on production and selling a borked product, only to be REWARDED with high sales of people replacing their cheap, shit consoles.
People's tightness / stupidness / bias and bullshit is destroying the basic fundamentals of capitalism.
You're missing my point dickhead. Sure the 360 and Gears of War look popular, but like i say with MILLIONS of their sales being welfare parents, little kids and replacement consoles, quality cannot be judged by mass appeal when we live in a world such as ours.
If the 360 and the PS3 cost the same amount then the number of sales / popularity could be used as a scale to judge which is best. Not the cheapest one is most popular (during a fucking recession!!!!) so it's clearly better.
The PS3 gives me and Millions of others everything we want from a games console, plus much much more. Whereas the 360 gives millions of people an error message and a kick in the balls for spending money on it.
Microshaft have been fucking over consumers since the early 90's, limiting what works with their software, cornering consumers into buying overprices perhipherals and generally fucking people like you in the ass while you ask for more.
Sony have been known for quality since the days of the Walkman, even today it's a well know fact that for sound quality in an audia device you go to Sony, despite the ipod selling in it's millions to the sheep of the world who want something pretty with a well known buzz-name that their friends have.
Being older doesn't make you wiser fuckwit. i think you've clearly relinquished any Wisdom you might have by so blindly ranting on behalf of a company who has been fucking you in the arse since day one.
Capitalism should work by products like the 360 losing sales due to problems like this, forcing them to fix the problem, not by them cutting corners on production and selling a borked product, only to be REWARDED with high sales of people replacing their cheap, shit consoles.
People's tightness / stupidness / bias and bullshit is destroying the basic fundamentals of capitalism.
Oh yeah, and Chaos, if this has pissed you off, you need to get a fucking life dude!
This is a games forum full of overblown opinions - not real life.
Chill the fuck out. You're nothing but a funny name and a little avatar to me.
I don't really give a fuck what you think, as long as i keep getting sick games, awesome features and the superb support without having to buy a 360 or 4.
This is a games forum full of overblown opinions - not real life.
Chill the fuck out. You're nothing but a funny name and a little avatar to me.
I don't really give a fuck what you think, as long as i keep getting sick games, awesome features and the superb support without having to buy a 360 or 4.
Round 3.
Jeesus, Sonychocs. I'm not sucking Ms's cock - I'm defending my right to enjoy the games I play on the system that happens to be theirs. I shouldn't have to put up with being told by - and might I add that when it comes to sucking the corporate cock, you, dear chocs, are by far the most eager to open up your mouth and give Sony's rifle a good old shining - somebody that I'm a retard because I happen to love the games that I can play on my 360. I didn't really bash the PS3 in this discussion - I don't go around like some little prick on PSN/Live procaliming that everything apart from what I love is crap, and the world ends there. You frequently slate the 360 - infact the only other thing you do on here apart from sucking Sony's member is raise the same tired old points about exxbawks fail, blahh, Cheapskates, blahh, welfare parents, blahhh... Every post is the same tired shit, but with different wording. Your welfare/dole theory is offensive, and downright stupid.
Your i-pod comment is damn right, and it's slightly ironic you use Sony's player as a good example. Whilst certainly having better sound than the i-pod (no real feat there), the build quality of the Sony players is not great, with crackly-jack inserts after less than a year of use. But they remain popular because the sound quality, and fairly cheap price means that you can put up with some stuff to get the benefits of other stuff. See what I'm getting at here?
You have a kid on the way, right? I'm happy for you, sincerely. I have a little girl of 7. She means the world to me. Your life is going to change, and you will discover a new cost to living, then perhaps your filthy little diatribes aimed at tight-of-wealth parents will ring in a different tone? I hope so. I will find your "God, why are all these cheapskates spending their money on cheap unecessary gadgets? Go out and spend lots of real money on unecessary gadgets" rhetoric even more offensive if babychocs is having to go without so that you can spunk money on the most expensive shit. Not that I can imagine you will feel that way, because like I say, as soon as that little bundle of magic breathes his/her first sip of oxygen, your life is going to change.
Yeah I'm stupid for getting mad and ranting. But coming from you it's a little rich to berate me for it, when I've read countless Sexualchcolate posts full of rant, and extra care to ADD CAPS where you are making your most antagonistic points.
Perhaps I don't get it? I'm more than my silly name and my avatar *weeps into keyboard* I'm not an avatar, I'm a man. A real life person, goddammit...
Time to shut the hell up.
Peace.
Jeesus, Sonychocs. I'm not sucking Ms's cock - I'm defending my right to enjoy the games I play on the system that happens to be theirs. I shouldn't have to put up with being told by - and might I add that when it comes to sucking the corporate cock, you, dear chocs, are by far the most eager to open up your mouth and give Sony's rifle a good old shining - somebody that I'm a retard because I happen to love the games that I can play on my 360. I didn't really bash the PS3 in this discussion - I don't go around like some little prick on PSN/Live procaliming that everything apart from what I love is crap, and the world ends there. You frequently slate the 360 - infact the only other thing you do on here apart from sucking Sony's member is raise the same tired old points about exxbawks fail, blahh, Cheapskates, blahh, welfare parents, blahhh... Every post is the same tired shit, but with different wording. Your welfare/dole theory is offensive, and downright stupid.
Your i-pod comment is damn right, and it's slightly ironic you use Sony's player as a good example. Whilst certainly having better sound than the i-pod (no real feat there), the build quality of the Sony players is not great, with crackly-jack inserts after less than a year of use. But they remain popular because the sound quality, and fairly cheap price means that you can put up with some stuff to get the benefits of other stuff. See what I'm getting at here?
You have a kid on the way, right? I'm happy for you, sincerely. I have a little girl of 7. She means the world to me. Your life is going to change, and you will discover a new cost to living, then perhaps your filthy little diatribes aimed at tight-of-wealth parents will ring in a different tone? I hope so. I will find your "God, why are all these cheapskates spending their money on cheap unecessary gadgets? Go out and spend lots of real money on unecessary gadgets" rhetoric even more offensive if babychocs is having to go without so that you can spunk money on the most expensive shit. Not that I can imagine you will feel that way, because like I say, as soon as that little bundle of magic breathes his/her first sip of oxygen, your life is going to change.
Yeah I'm stupid for getting mad and ranting. But coming from you it's a little rich to berate me for it, when I've read countless Sexualchcolate posts full of rant, and extra care to ADD CAPS where you are making your most antagonistic points.
Perhaps I don't get it? I'm more than my silly name and my avatar *weeps into keyboard* I'm not an avatar, I'm a man. A real life person, goddammit...
Time to shut the hell up.
Peace.
And another Sexchocs and Chaos battle ends with kissing and making up. :)
We're as bad as each other hey?!
I logged on AT HOME to check out your response. You're way more than just an avater to me dude. And yeah, we found out last week it's gonna be a little boy! Over the moon!
Anyways, you enjoy your xbox, I'm off to play some Socom.
Until next time Chaos, until next time.
We're as bad as each other hey?!
I logged on AT HOME to check out your response. You're way more than just an avater to me dude. And yeah, we found out last week it's gonna be a little boy! Over the moon!
Anyways, you enjoy your xbox, I'm off to play some Socom.
Until next time Chaos, until next time.
Sexualchocolate- Shut up please, you don't know shit about anything. You keep using the Welfare excuse to why the 360 has sold millions. You need to stop bringing that up, I've got a 360 and PS3, so do my friends, none of us are on welfare. I know plenty of other people that have a 360 and aren't on benefits as well.
Then you say the replacements sales also contributed to the sales total. Ok, my 360 has RROD'd twice, I haven't replaced it with another 360, I was a patient little gamer and waited 2 weeks. I hate the Red Ring of Death as much as the next guy but I don't use it to make the 360 look like a bad gaming system. Me and my friend said the other week that the RROD is simply a way to tell you you've been playing too much and need a break. Any normal person should be fine taking their console away to be repaired, it's not like you live for games, you can do other activities.
Oh, about the whole "PS3 is the ultimate media machine" thing, I don't give a damn about what other shit my PS3 does, other than gaming. I bought my PS3 for the exclusive games, not the shitty gimmicks on the side. I don't need HOME, if it wasn't for the fact that PS3 games play on Blu-ray, I wouldn't bother with that either (I've only seen 2 films on Blu-ray, looks pretty but DVDs do the job for me).
To me, the 360 is a great gaming machine, it's worth it's price and the failure rate is the only problem I have with it. I enjoy some of the exclusives on the 360, Gears of War is pretty good if you actually play it, Halo 3's multiplayer is a blast with friends, and the tons of exclusive XBLA games are fun (especially Splosion' Man).
Sexualchocolate, give the 360 a break, Sony has made mistakes too. In fact, the Wii failure rate is the lowest out of all 3. Sexualchocolate, defending Sony every waking second isn't doing you any favours, just making you delusional that Sony can do no wrong. /rant
Peace out y'all!
Then you say the replacements sales also contributed to the sales total. Ok, my 360 has RROD'd twice, I haven't replaced it with another 360, I was a patient little gamer and waited 2 weeks. I hate the Red Ring of Death as much as the next guy but I don't use it to make the 360 look like a bad gaming system. Me and my friend said the other week that the RROD is simply a way to tell you you've been playing too much and need a break. Any normal person should be fine taking their console away to be repaired, it's not like you live for games, you can do other activities.
Oh, about the whole "PS3 is the ultimate media machine" thing, I don't give a damn about what other shit my PS3 does, other than gaming. I bought my PS3 for the exclusive games, not the shitty gimmicks on the side. I don't need HOME, if it wasn't for the fact that PS3 games play on Blu-ray, I wouldn't bother with that either (I've only seen 2 films on Blu-ray, looks pretty but DVDs do the job for me).
To me, the 360 is a great gaming machine, it's worth it's price and the failure rate is the only problem I have with it. I enjoy some of the exclusives on the 360, Gears of War is pretty good if you actually play it, Halo 3's multiplayer is a blast with friends, and the tons of exclusive XBLA games are fun (especially Splosion' Man).
Sexualchocolate, give the 360 a break, Sony has made mistakes too. In fact, the Wii failure rate is the lowest out of all 3. Sexualchocolate, defending Sony every waking second isn't doing you any favours, just making you delusional that Sony can do no wrong. /rant
Peace out y'all!
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"the RROD is simply a way to tell you you've been playing too much and need a break"
pretty stupid gimmick if you ask me. they would have been better off putting an alarm in it.
"the RROD is simply a way to tell you you've been playing too much and need a break"
pretty stupid gimmick if you ask me. they would have been better off putting an alarm in it.
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When you think about it is even 1% an acceptable failure rate?
Take film for example: Kodak sells 20million containers of film and only 1% is faulty. You all think that's pretty good but how is 200,000 failures a good number?
Now turn over to $300 plus a unit and things start to get serious.
When you think about it is even 1% an acceptable failure rate?
Take film for example: Kodak sells 20million containers of film and only 1% is faulty. You all think that's pretty good but how is 200,000 failures a good number?
Now turn over to $300 plus a unit and things start to get serious.
Crazy. My thoughts are the same as yours Dale. How can people be so loyal? You wouldn't take this kind of crap from a car company? Or even smaller, your computer manufacture, or anyone else in any market. I'm not trying to say anyone console is better than the other, but don't people have principle? I would never be on my 7th console like some people. I don't care if its end all system.
We as consumers need to speak with our wallet. Not buy whatever piece of shit hardware is pushed on us first. My big fear for the next generation of consoles is that Sony and MS seeing as faulty hardware isn't an issue among sales, means they will both be racing to push their console out first and we are going to have two console with unacceptability high failure rates.
We as consumers need to speak with our wallet. Not buy whatever piece of shit hardware is pushed on us first. My big fear for the next generation of consoles is that Sony and MS seeing as faulty hardware isn't an issue among sales, means they will both be racing to push their console out first and we are going to have two console with unacceptability high failure rates.
I think in most of cases is not a question of loyalty, but of satisfaction. To be "loyal" to a corporation is, well, so stupid... just reserved for dumb people. The RRoD, for many of us, has been an inconvenience more than a burden (no cost related for me yet), allowing even a second purchase (in my case i needed a second console for system link gaming). MS has no excuse for launching a faulty piece of hardware, but electronics eventually get broken. In the past generation I got lots of joy with the PS2, but in fact I ended buying two of them, 'cause I had to repair the first one lens so many times that buying the slim model was the best long-term option. And I was so grateful/annoyed with Sony in the past than with MS nowadays. Fanboyism is just for kids... seriously, for kids. I've quit reading games blogs in my own language (and never participated) because of the massive childish fanboyism. Don't bring that crap to Destructoid...
It's not so much loyalty - it's satisfaction as was mentioned earlier.. Whar I say that Gears multiplayer is one of my favourite ever gaming experiences in nigh on thirty years of gaming, it's apparent that I will, as a reult show love for the 360, even if I have had to replace one due to RROD. It's just the way it is. I love playing games - I'm a gamer - and there a re a lot of games on the 360 that I love - I'm a happy gamer with a 360. End.
Look at it this way, NES had a failure rate of pretty much 100%. but we still loved it anyway. The 360 is an excellent console despite it (extreme) short comings in the hardware department.
haha i think its due to the fact that people play their 360s way to much how can u not we got 3 exclusives games nominated game of the year in a row according to spike, then when gta4 with the exclusive downloadable content again game of the year, then we got netflix (no u dont need a disc like the wii or ps3) then we got zune to xbox live, god gears of war 3, halo reach, mass effect 2, fable 3, crak down 2, alan wake, project natal, good god how can u stop playing ur 360s, well thats why i installed my games tot he harddrive, like the ps3 requires you too on the games they know u will play alot, like red dead redeption, call of duty, assasins creed etc..install the games to ur hardrive and problem solved
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