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Ahh well that's an aggressive move. Discourages psn exclusives. I mean it won't work for too long of course but it is an aggressive move. With all their policies they won't stay on top forever.
@sofik
Sure, Pain, Flower, and Fat Princess were published by Sony, so those won't come to XBL in any universe. However, Joe Danger was developed and published by Hello Games and Dust 514 is made by CCP as well as published. Keep in mind my knowledge on of the PSN store is very limited in that I only recently started browsing it. There are probably a lot more games that I can't think of at the moment.
Sure, Pain, Flower, and Fat Princess were published by Sony, so those won't come to XBL in any universe. However, Joe Danger was developed and published by Hello Games and Dust 514 is made by CCP as well as published. Keep in mind my knowledge on of the PSN store is very limited in that I only recently started browsing it. There are probably a lot more games that I can't think of at the moment.
@mix
Ghostbusters: The Video Game was released four months earlier on PS3 and PSP in Europe. All the other versions didn't came out over her until November.
Ghostbusters: The Video Game was released four months earlier on PS3 and PSP in Europe. All the other versions didn't came out over her until November.
@MrFunsockz,
considering that only handful of games were ported to ps3 it's kinda stupid cause in the end you're cut off from about 250+ still exclusive 360 and XBLA games(excluding indies) for what? 60-80 PS3/PSN games including Playstation Move titles?
@Joo Campos Costa,
yeah and nobody complained then it's when MS/Nintendo is doing it that everyone have a problem with it. funny considering that during PSX/PS2 era sony paid hundred of millions to 3rd parties for timed(Tomb Raider series) or complete exclusivity(Final Fantasy, GTA) and pulled massive amount of dirty tricks.
considering that only handful of games were ported to ps3 it's kinda stupid cause in the end you're cut off from about 250+ still exclusive 360 and XBLA games(excluding indies) for what? 60-80 PS3/PSN games including Playstation Move titles?
@Joo Campos Costa,
yeah and nobody complained then it's when MS/Nintendo is doing it that everyone have a problem with it. funny considering that during PSX/PS2 era sony paid hundred of millions to 3rd parties for timed(Tomb Raider series) or complete exclusivity(Final Fantasy, GTA) and pulled massive amount of dirty tricks.
@ mix
ha, you probably haven't seen that because of this policy! i get your point though, and i didn't intend to paint sony or MS as the good or bad guy.
ha, you probably haven't seen that because of this policy! i get your point though, and i didn't intend to paint sony or MS as the good or bad guy.
This is seriously not ok, Why are these companies so reluctant to take my money.
Microsoft, I want to give you money for a game, I really do, but If you won't put the game online I can't give you money. You don't even have to make the game or publish it, all you have to do is let someone upload it to your server and you get money... Why don't you want my money?
Microsoft, I want to give you money for a game, I really do, but If you won't put the game online I can't give you money. You don't even have to make the game or publish it, all you have to do is let someone upload it to your server and you get money... Why don't you want my money?
So if I want all the best downloadable games, I should switch to the PSN as my main. Message received.
I was hoping the new Prince of Peria Sands of Time Trilogy HD remakes would come to XBL. I was holding off on that purchase. Okay, MS. I will give Sony money I had been saving for you.
I was hoping the new Prince of Peria Sands of Time Trilogy HD remakes would come to XBL. I was holding off on that purchase. Okay, MS. I will give Sony money I had been saving for you.
@Joo Campos
I don't think that's what the indie pub fund actually is. It's more like spending money to publish indie titles that otherwise might not be made.
I don't think that's what the indie pub fund actually is. It's more like spending money to publish indie titles that otherwise might not be made.
@Sofik
Fuck me gently with a chainsaw dude. I swear Microsoft and Nintendo could give you brain cancer and you would still bad mouth Sony. Get over it. If you have a good defense for XBLA, state it, all you're doing is saying it's okay if Xbox rapes me cause my console is better than your console.
PS. My dad would whoop your dads ass.
Fuck me gently with a chainsaw dude. I swear Microsoft and Nintendo could give you brain cancer and you would still bad mouth Sony. Get over it. If you have a good defense for XBLA, state it, all you're doing is saying it's okay if Xbox rapes me cause my console is better than your console.
PS. My dad would whoop your dads ass.
XBLA is an awesome service, but I don't like they're business practices. I've read about quiet abit of developers discussing that they are very controlling.
@Sofik it's one thing to pay for exclusives. Its quite another to refuse to take anything that is better on another system.
Shit like this is the reason I don't touch my 360 anymore. It may have some awesome exclusives, but Microsoft are such dicks.
Shit like this is the reason I don't touch my 360 anymore. It may have some awesome exclusives, but Microsoft are such dicks.
Well, I can't think of any real games on PSN that are exclusive that I would want on XBLA anyway, minus some PS1 games. So this doesn't really bother me.
@sofik88
Name some of those "250+" XBLA exclusives, and I'll counter that with all the PS1 classics that can be played on my PSP or PS3.
Each system has it's strengths and weaknesses, and I decided to choose the one that gave me the most retail exclusives (along with having all the big name multiplatform releases), as well as free multiplayer.
All the downloadables I want (Castlevania HD, Limbo, BG&E HD, Bomberman, Hard Corps Uprising) are on both platforms, or coming to both.
Don't get me wrong, the 360 is a good system (if enough reasons pop up, I'll end up getting one), but if I had to choose just one, it'd be the PS3.
Name some of those "250+" XBLA exclusives, and I'll counter that with all the PS1 classics that can be played on my PSP or PS3.
Each system has it's strengths and weaknesses, and I decided to choose the one that gave me the most retail exclusives (along with having all the big name multiplatform releases), as well as free multiplayer.
All the downloadables I want (Castlevania HD, Limbo, BG&E HD, Bomberman, Hard Corps Uprising) are on both platforms, or coming to both.
Don't get me wrong, the 360 is a good system (if enough reasons pop up, I'll end up getting one), but if I had to choose just one, it'd be the PS3.
Who cares?
You really think Sony doesn't have a hand in this too? They're stepping up their exclusivity game, and I'm sure they wouldn't want MS taking away their downloadable titles.
You really think that if MS wanted to publish Wipeout HD, Sony would let them? How is this any different?
You really think Sony doesn't have a hand in this too? They're stepping up their exclusivity game, and I'm sure they wouldn't want MS taking away their downloadable titles.
You really think that if MS wanted to publish Wipeout HD, Sony would let them? How is this any different?
@VoltySquirrel,
once again sony FUNDED those games - they boasted how they paid for entire Joe Danger development after all.
@mix,
the difference between MS and Sony is that MS usually legally pays for exclusivity or simply offer help in development while Sony in terms of games like Ghostbusters or Lego Pirates of the Caribbean pulled legal strings to either delay release of the game on other platforms(in terms of Ghostbusters when they first sold license to Atari and Terminal Reality and before release of the game gone to court or pulled some legal strings to demand not only publishing rights but delay of other platforms) or completely ban entirely certain games like they did with Lego PotC in few european countries when they used the fact of having rights to publish Pirates of the Caribbean movies as excuse to ban other than PS3/PSP versions of Lego game.
once again sony FUNDED those games - they boasted how they paid for entire Joe Danger development after all.
@mix,
the difference between MS and Sony is that MS usually legally pays for exclusivity or simply offer help in development while Sony in terms of games like Ghostbusters or Lego Pirates of the Caribbean pulled legal strings to either delay release of the game on other platforms(in terms of Ghostbusters when they first sold license to Atari and Terminal Reality and before release of the game gone to court or pulled some legal strings to demand not only publishing rights but delay of other platforms) or completely ban entirely certain games like they did with Lego PotC in few european countries when they used the fact of having rights to publish Pirates of the Caribbean movies as excuse to ban other than PS3/PSP versions of Lego game.
So why doesn't this policy extend to full retail games with exclusive content for PS3? Portal 2, for example. Or Arkham Asylum. Or Crysis 2. etc etc.
Why just the downloadable titles?
Why just the downloadable titles?
Sofik88, You always sound so serious, Like you really stand behind the things you say... You cant possibly believe you are always right? You are never right. Even now you are making things up and misreading peoples comments.
sofik: wat? You said that MS unlike sony legally (WFT) pay for exclusivity or simply offers help in development but your first sentence said that Sony paid for the entire Joe Danger development.
What kind of idiotic policy is this? They'd rather not have the game at all than to get it late? That's some serious image paranoia.
Jim, you're confusing "publish" with "allow". Microsoft GAME STUDIOS will not PUBLISH games on XBLA that have been on PSN first. However, those games are still free to come to XBLA as long as they find someone who isn't Microsoft Game Studios to publish them, like EA or Ubisoft.
This is not the first time Destructoid has reported incorrectly on this topic, like when you claimed Machinarium was banned (or something) from XBLA.
Scott Pilgrim was on PSN first, but it was published by Ubisoft, so it came to XBLA after.
This is not the first time Destructoid has reported incorrectly on this topic, like when you claimed Machinarium was banned (or something) from XBLA.
Scott Pilgrim was on PSN first, but it was published by Ubisoft, so it came to XBLA after.
What about titles with exclusivity deals such as Scott Pilgrim? That was a PSN exclusive for about 2 weeks, then it made the jump to XBLA.
either way, it IS stupid. I understand PSN/XBLA update schedules, but shit like that? retarded.
either way, it IS stupid. I understand PSN/XBLA update schedules, but shit like that? retarded.
Sofik... You're such a goddamn tool. Just chill out and let people think and speak freely on this. It's just a plastic fucking box. I know you probably put makeup on yours and fuck it, but the some of us know that it's just another stupid product.
Microsoft doesn't give two shits about you, son. They don't even care if you have all the best games. So why should it hurt your feelings so much that the rest of think they're a bunch of fuck faces? Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft, EA, Activision, Ubisoft, Sega.... They can all suck a billion cocks for all I care. Just sell me my games and leave me the fuck alone.
Microsoft doesn't give two shits about you, son. They don't even care if you have all the best games. So why should it hurt your feelings so much that the rest of think they're a bunch of fuck faces? Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft, EA, Activision, Ubisoft, Sega.... They can all suck a billion cocks for all I care. Just sell me my games and leave me the fuck alone.
@Stop Spoilers,
i love how sony fanboys take your words out of context and spin them to fit their "argument". facepalm. FYI, i asked for 3rd party PSN exclusive titles that weren't paid/published by sony. and frankly there is none. so all of that bitching how MS is somehow screwing PSN is irrelevant when even 3rd parties don't want to publish their games exclusively on PSN.
to all of those idiots and Jim Sterling bitching about MS here,
you DO understand that they're talking about PUBLISHING those games by MS, right?
name me one company that will help in publishing and promoting the game that got exclusivity deal from competition and was published as superior product on their platform? even sony has similar policy especially with retail release. they admited themself that they won't allow 360/Wii timed exclusive to be released on their console without additional content.
i love how sony fanboys take your words out of context and spin them to fit their "argument". facepalm. FYI, i asked for 3rd party PSN exclusive titles that weren't paid/published by sony. and frankly there is none. so all of that bitching how MS is somehow screwing PSN is irrelevant when even 3rd parties don't want to publish their games exclusively on PSN.
to all of those idiots and Jim Sterling bitching about MS here,
you DO understand that they're talking about PUBLISHING those games by MS, right?
name me one company that will help in publishing and promoting the game that got exclusivity deal from competition and was published as superior product on their platform? even sony has similar policy especially with retail release. they admited themself that they won't allow 360/Wii timed exclusive to be released on their console without additional content.
This really doesn't bother me that much. I can't think of a single PSN title that interests me enough to want to actually play it anyways.
@Joo Campos Costa
I think you've misunderstood those situations. Sony's demand that games that did not see a simultaneous release should include bonus content were in direct retaliation to Microsoft buying title exclusivity for one year. It was a counter move that made sense, and in no way was worse that the original move.
As for Sony asking for exclusivity for games they help to fund, Microsoft does that as well, and it's an understandable request. I have no problem with that.
I think you've misunderstood those situations. Sony's demand that games that did not see a simultaneous release should include bonus content were in direct retaliation to Microsoft buying title exclusivity for one year. It was a counter move that made sense, and in no way was worse that the original move.
As for Sony asking for exclusivity for games they help to fund, Microsoft does that as well, and it's an understandable request. I have no problem with that.
TO ALL OF THE RETARDS SPEWING SHIT AT MS AND TO JIM STERLING.
THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT MICROSOFT PUBLISHING THOSE GAMES, NOT ALLOWING THEM TO BE PUBLISHED ON XBLA. IF DEVELOPER OF THOSE GAMES WILL FIND PUBLISHER THAT'S NOT MICROSOFT THEY'RE FREE TO PUT IT ON XBLA.
IT'S SONY WHO HAS THE POLICY TO NOT ALLOW ANY 360/WII TIMED EXCLUSIVE TO BE PUBLISHED BY ANY PUBLISHER(SO NOT JUST THEM) WITHOUT ADDITIONAL CONTENT.
THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT MICROSOFT PUBLISHING THOSE GAMES, NOT ALLOWING THEM TO BE PUBLISHED ON XBLA. IF DEVELOPER OF THOSE GAMES WILL FIND PUBLISHER THAT'S NOT MICROSOFT THEY'RE FREE TO PUT IT ON XBLA.
IT'S SONY WHO HAS THE POLICY TO NOT ALLOW ANY 360/WII TIMED EXCLUSIVE TO BE PUBLISHED BY ANY PUBLISHER(SO NOT JUST THEM) WITHOUT ADDITIONAL CONTENT.
@pokota,
how is blocking the release of games on your own platform(that were timed exclusives) without additional content better than legally paying/helping in development(as MS did sending their development team to japan to help Namco develop Vesperia) for timed exclusivity?
how is blocking the release of games on your own platform(that were timed exclusives) without additional content better than legally paying/helping in development(as MS did sending their development team to japan to help Namco develop Vesperia) for timed exclusivity?
It's not to defend the policy, but writing it off as jealousy is a little silly. This has nothing to do with punishing games that were already published on PSN. This has everything to do with discouraging developers from making their games PSN-exclusive to begin with.
We can argue whether or not such a thing is dickish, but let's at least acknowledge the real reasoning behind the decision.
We can argue whether or not such a thing is dickish, but let's at least acknowledge the real reasoning behind the decision.
@Sofik capital letters!? Guys he's right. He used capital letters.... Seriously you are the only one who gives a fuck. No one cares about console wars. There are problems and good things about EVERYTHING. See I used capital letters so I'm telling the truth.
TO SOFIK ALL THE GAME COMPANIES DO THINGS TO GIVE THEM A EDGE WITH THE COMPETITION YOU RETARD. AND THE MS WAS IS NOT MORE "LEGAL" THEN THE WAY SONY DOES IT YOU RETARD. AND SOME INDE GAMES HAVE TO BE PUBLISHED BY EITHER SONY OR MICROSOFT TO GET THEIR GAME OUT YOU RETARD. SO IF MICROSOFT WONT PUBLISH THE GAME BECAUSE IT WAS ON THE PS3 FIRST THEN SOME INDE DEVELOPERS WONT BE ABLE TO GET THEIR GAME TO THE 360 UNLESS ANOTHER PUBLISHER PUBLISHES IT AND SOME CANT GET THAT CHANCE YOU RETARD. ADDING CONTENT IS MUCH EASIER THEN FINDING A PUBLISHER THAT IS NOT MICROSOFT YOU RETARD. SORRY EVERYONE ELSE FOR TYPING IN ALL CAPS I THINK EVERYONE SHOULD DO THIS FOR THE REST OF THE POSTS.
And also you didn't have that publish vs allow argument until monday salmon posted that lol. And also, grow up.
I have a 360 and a ps3, they both suck donkey dick. Sony and Microsoft therefore both suck donkey dick as well.
All fanboys should now worship me as the messiah and stfu, if they do not then would they kindly gtfo.
The end.
All fanboys should now worship me as the messiah and stfu, if they do not then would they kindly gtfo.
The end.
TO ALL OF THOSE GUYS NAMED SOFIK88. THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT YOU BEING AN ANNOYING FANBOY. IF YOU CAN FIND ANYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH THAT STATEMENT THEN YOURE FREE TO POST IT HERE ON DTOID.
ITS YOU WHO HAS THE POLICY OF DISREGARDING ANYTHING BAD ABOUT MS OR GOOD ABOUT SONY BECAUSE OF YOUR BLIND RAGE AND IGNORANCE.
ITS YOU WHO HAS THE POLICY OF DISREGARDING ANYTHING BAD ABOUT MS OR GOOD ABOUT SONY BECAUSE OF YOUR BLIND RAGE AND IGNORANCE.
lol sofik, chill. People can have a different opinion than you on the internet, even if you think it's wrong, it doesn't matter because it's an opinion.
Games are games, at the end of the day we're paying someone else to entertain us in our free time, there's better things to get upset about than someone's perception of a news story about such a 1st world issue.
Games are games, at the end of the day we're paying someone else to entertain us in our free time, there's better things to get upset about than someone's perception of a news story about such a 1st world issue.
@Lycan XIII,
links for what?
Lego PotC were banned by sony in spain and few other countries - basically everywhere where movie distributors owned by sony had publishing rights to PotC movies.
Vesperia stuff was confirmed by Namco CEO(who said in the same interview about MS help in Vesperia development).
it's not that hard to find.
links for what?
Lego PotC were banned by sony in spain and few other countries - basically everywhere where movie distributors owned by sony had publishing rights to PotC movies.
Vesperia stuff was confirmed by Namco CEO(who said in the same interview about MS help in Vesperia development).
it's not that hard to find.
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