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X10: Hands-off with Fable III

9:00 AM on 02.12.2010   |   Ben Perlee

X10: Hands-off with Fable III photo

I hope you guys have been having a good time checking out the X10 information that has been flowing out like a stream of Microsoft-branded consciousness. Seriously, it's kicking the butts of everyone who is going, and I'm doing my best to get you the best information possible. Round Two is coming soon!

Now, there's a good reason you'll want to hear about what I've got in store for you -- I got a hands-off demo of Lionhead's Fable III. While there was plenty that was not shown or only hinted at, there's a whole lot that is exciting all the same. Hit the jump for my impressions.

 

Fable III (Xbox 360)
Developer: Lionhead Studios
Publisher: Microsoft Game Studios
To be released: Holiday 2010

In Fable III, you'll play as the son (or daughter) of the main character from 2008's Fable II. All of the standard stuff you've come to expect from a Fable game is here: the good and the bad, the multiple plots paths, the dog, co-op -- everything.

Even better, you can import your save from Fable II, and you will be able to gain some extra features, as well as influence the state of your new main character. Not much changes, but in a post-Mass Effect 2 world, it's a nice feature.

What is not coming back is a health bar, or a HUD... period. This is the big news that Molyneux said was going to piss gamers off. Honestly, it's still hard to figure out how much health you have left, but there you go. In Peter we trust, I suppose.

The game is heavily inspired by Charles Dickens and the Industrial Revolution in that Albion is now a heavily industrialized nation due to the actions of the corrupt king. Children as young as five-years-old are working in factories, and at least ten a day are dying. Everyone is sad, and it's up to you to make a change or keep things nasty as you progress through the game.



Molyneux made it very clear that there is a new theme in Fable III: power. “Power” runs through the whole game, and you'll even become King or Queen by the story's mid-point. Considering the HUD is gone, and also considering that XP is now AWOL in a traditional sense (more on that later), being a powerful leader is very important. You'll be getting followers, and each action you take will cause you to gain or lose followers.

Let's say you're the king. If you had promised to close the factories employing children, open schools, and turn towns into the idyllic places they once were -- and then you don't come through -- you will lose followers. If you divorce your wife, you will lose followers. If you marry a baroness, you will gain followers. There's a lot going on, and everything will fluctuate as you play. I've been told that the number of followers is pretty much the clearest manifestation of XP in Fable III.

The game features two major updates to the Fable franchise. First, every weapon you use has an impact on you, the player. One of the complaints of Fable II was how even female characters would get really bulky. This changes with Fable III. Depending on the weapon type, you will bulk up or bulk down. A heavy hammer will "Conan you out," while using a gun will make you a pussy-footed weakling. Magic users will become more... magical (much like the iPad). A mixture of weapon uses will also offer a mixture of physical traits. Also, now characters have wings called “extreme expressions.” They pop out when you do attacks, and will align to your good and bad traits.



This also ties to the weapons. Weapons initially start out weak and simple, and depending on what you do, the item will start to look and act different. If you kill a bunch of spiky Hobs and murder innocents, the weapon will be spiky and drip blood. If you kill a lot of another enemy, it'll start to pick up those traits.

Even better, those weapons will be tied to your Gamertag, so your unique weapon will be called “Puffm@ster420's Blade of Blood,” or something similar depending on your chosen Xbox LIVE handle. Even when you trade it, that weapon will always be named after you. Molyneux also mentioned that the weapons are tied to your Gamerscore, but how those numbers translate into the game and with these weapons was made unclear.

The next, and biggest, update of Fable is the inclusion of the “touch” feature. Heavily inspired by Ico, “touching” is done with the right trigger, and it is a contextual interaction with the characters in the game. You can discipline your daughter or pick her up, or hug your wife. As King, drag peons down to the dungeon, and more. The flagship animation here is holding hands. You can walk your daughter back home, or you can drag a hobo to be sold to a factory. It's supposedly designed to create more emotion, as well as man-on-man hand-holding, and looks like a core element of Fable III.



Oddly, there was no confirmation of an episodic rollout; Molyneux was very diplomatic and indefinite. After the episodic release of Fable II, it seems like a good enough guess.

An even more curious missing element was the lack of a mention of Project Natal. Or the support of Project Natal. Or something. See, while Molyneux was talking about the game, a representative was playing it. Almost every time a “touch” element of the game would happen, the player would move his right hand like he was holding hands with the character -- for example, lifting up the child. I even saw him do a finishing move like an overhead smash with his hand. Was there a hidden Natal camera somewhere? I have no idea, but I'm going to speculate that players without Natal are going to be able to play using just RT, and Natal payers will have support for some "waggle."

If what I suspect regarding Natal is true, I'm not really impressed. Of course, we won't find out until E3, I'm sure, and I hope, Molyneux has some surprises in store that are better than what we've already seen with Wii motion.

The graphics have been boosted quite a bit, as well. While the last game had smallish, cramped dungeons, Fable III's are more expansive. The general world is pretty nice and lush where it needs to be. It's obvious at a glance that this sequel looks much better than Fable II.

Fable III certainly has some pretty interesting new features, and it's obvious that the game is going in some interesting directions. It's also obvious that there is a whole lot that Molyneux is keeping close to his chest. Let's see if the guy can follow through with all that he's promised, and maybe deliver on the Natal stuff he's hinted at.

Fingers crossed.

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CRAZYAPE69's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/12/2010 09:04
CRAZYAPE69
ok, im a sellout, i was dreading this game, but now i might actually have to pick it up
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/12/2010 09:09
Xzyliac
Eh, I'll probably bite. Not too impressed but Fable isn't really an impressive franchise. Just kind of mindless fun and interesting experiments.
the Company's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/12/2010 09:17
the Company
I like the "touch" feature, honestly, from what I'm hearing. (Nevertheless, it will inspire predictable jokes.)

But the "followers" aspect seems like it will be pretty cut and dry. Even the examples they gave seem pretty bland and uninteresting.

It's kind of unfortunate the Peter Molyneux is more interesting to me as a person than his games have been as of late.

Consider my anticipation mild.
TewDee's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/12/2010 09:17
TewDee
Sounds ok. Not great, just ok.
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/12/2010 09:17
Tubatic
Very cool! I'll be interesting to see how the handholding/manhandling thing pans out. From a player experience perspective, it could help make NPCs feel less like part of the scenery. Nice to see Ico having a direct influence/ getting "ripped off" :D
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/12/2010 09:21
Tubatic
Also, seeing (presumably) industrial brick Bowerstone is pretty awesome.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/12/2010 09:24
Xzyliac
I second industrial Bowerstone's badassery.

Also, that pistols rule.
D Chap's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/12/2010 09:24
D Chap
I'm hoping that Fable 3 will be the game that convinces me to get Natal, like how Twilight princess convinced me to get a Wii. Surprised they didn't mention Natal, I figured MS would be relying on LionHead to snag the hardcore crowd with this game since few of us are interested in spastic body motions to deflect incoming balls.
The Amazing Shenazin's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/12/2010 09:27
The Amazing Shenazin
happy to hear that it wont be Natal only, so I'll check it out

it's funny though that the Natal features sound 100% pointless
Wonder Woody's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/12/2010 09:28
Wonder Woody
Oh God, I'm really going to let him do this to me again, aren't I?
PreacherMan89's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/12/2010 09:29
PreacherMan89
It looks decent. I'm a big fan of Fable so I'll be picking it up. (Need to buy a new xbox first though, lol)
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/12/2010 09:29
Tubatic
comment section, I cant' quit you...

Also, its a bit self defeating that the new hook "Touch" will use natal, which is definitively NOT about touching...
Leviathan902's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/12/2010 09:29
Leviathan902
I was beginning to get more and more skeptical the more I hard about Fable 3, but this re-assures me.

It sounds sort of like a typical fable game with a king dynamic instead of moving individual NPC sliders around like in fable 2, and this "touch" system instead of the heavy-handed "expressions wheel". I imagine this has to do with the fact that interacting with NPCs in Fable 2 had no real impact on the player whatsoever.

I'm also glad that Natal is optional and the game is played with a controller. I don't mind motion control optionally enhancing my typical games, I just don't want it dominating them.
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/12/2010 09:35
Tubatic
@Leviathan902

Me and the shopkeeper in front of the Bowerstone inn had a good thing going. She gave me a discount, and I think she kinda loved me and got me things. She didn't fight any demons for me, but the discount was helpful. What more could you want?!:p
ChaosTeaCup's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/12/2010 09:39
ChaosTeaCup
I likes the sounds of this.
Leviathan902's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/12/2010 09:39
Leviathan902
@Tubatic

lol! I think I romanced every shopkeeper in bowerstone, or outright bought the businees.

What I was trying to say is that the NPC sliders/expression wheel thing was kinda gimmicky. It didn't feel like I was interacting with people (what I think Molyneaux is going for), but more like i was just tweaking "how much do you like me?" settings. I might as well have been adjusting the sound effects volume in the menu.
PappaDukes's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/12/2010 09:58
PappaDukes
Puffm@ster420 for president!
Kylius's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/12/2010 09:59
Kylius
I unabashedly love the Fable series - I love the charm of the games, the 'happy' look of the games - kind of reminds me of the N64 Zelda titles young Link levels - and the satisfying combat system.

I like where all these changes are going, the new weapon system is a kick in the balls for the Loot-horder in me - but I like the idea of trading weapons with friends.

I do, however, wish big Pete would stop talking about forming 'emotional connections' with NPC's.

I'm pulling the Right Trigger to manhandle a digital Hobo Mr Molyneux - I am not forging a meaningful releationship!
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/12/2010 10:03
Tubatic
@Leviathan9092

Yeah, that's a tricky thing. I kind of dug that the characterization was more than "I like you/I don't like you". You could have people that found you attractive, considered you generous/pure, but were utterly afraid of you. But having it that transparent leads you to game the system a little bit.

But if we didn't know it was there and discreet, would we even notice it? :/ I hear you though.
hpv's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/12/2010 10:05
hpv
Graphics are pretty good for an Xbox game. Too bad the game is going to suck like the last two.
Thane Vickers's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/12/2010 10:08
Thane Vickers
I'm going withhold any excitement on this one. It sounds a lot like shit he promised with Fable II. Not to say I didn't like Fable II, but it was nowhere near what he promised it would be.
Saturos103's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/12/2010 10:20
Saturos103
Bah, Xbox 360 exclusive again. *sigh* Ah well, I've got plenty of other games.
Jesse Cortez's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/12/2010 10:43
Jesse Cortez
Haha!

"In Peter we trust, I suppose."

I though we as gamers learned not to....
Dave Tobin's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/12/2010 10:48
Dave Tobin
Hopefully this one will work at launch rather than have a slew of game-breaking bugs that took ages to be patched out in Fable 2.
manasteel88's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/12/2010 10:50
manasteel88
molyneux was diplomatic? what? checks the weather outside...hell has frozen over
Matt Bradley's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/12/2010 11:07
Matt Bradley
@Brlito. Everybody is a wise ass on the internet, huh? I guess its like MW2 was actually MW1.2 then, huh?
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/12/2010 11:11
Xzyliac
@Brlito
With such a quick sequel (in comparison to Fable 2) you expected less?

Matt you're being a lil' sensitive. Is Fable 2.5 really an insult?
Mr Andy Dixon's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/12/2010 11:13
Mr Andy Dixon
I really dig the new weapon system.
Raggamofyn's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/12/2010 11:15
Raggamofyn
Okay, now all you need to do is through all of those features into a tombola and pick out two. Those two will make it into the game as advertised.
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/12/2010 11:18
Tubatic
@Brlito

Not so much, I think, honestly. Not mentioned much in this article is the ruling as a King bit, which sounds from scant details like its a different/new-to-Fable sort of thing. You rule by setting laws and monitoring the promises you said you'd keep. Could be an interesting bit of self awareness on Molynuex's part. Or, at least, a neat distraction from hack-n-slashery.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/12/2010 11:21
Xzyliac
@Tubatic
If it's half as fun as monopolizing the property in Fable 2 was I'm already in line.
Chiurka's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/12/2010 11:22
Chiurka
steam punk is always win:D but if they go the wii gimick way i'll definetly skip this game. it has some coll stuff but we'll have to wait for e3 to find out what it actually is :D
brimtastic's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/12/2010 11:24
brimtastic
Looks fine. Nothing mind-blowing. Despite all of it's flaws, I loved Fable II, so I'll almost certainly be getting this.

I don't see what's so wrong with a HUD though. If it isn't done right it won't make things more immersive, it will just make it difficult to know what's going on at a glance. Which would take away any sense of immersion. Take that, Moly-boy.
HEL105's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/12/2010 11:35
HEL105
This all sounds pretty appealing. Day 1 purchase, as long as no Natal is required.
NateT's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/12/2010 11:59
NateT
I love the tricorn.
JavTheGreat's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/12/2010 12:03
JavTheGreat
Peter needs to just make Black and White 3 with Natal. That would be cool in my opinion.
Darren Nakamura's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/12/2010 12:21
Darren Nakamura
Tying stuff to your Gamertag and Gamerscore is a cool idea. I'm surprised it hasn't been done before. I'm not really that upset about the no-HUD thing. I'll be upset if moving that information to the pause screen causes the pause delay to be even longer than it was in Fable II.
Soulwax's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/12/2010 12:50
Soulwax
No escort missions please.
Discarded Couch Sandwich's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/12/2010 12:51
Discarded Couch Sandwich
I cannot wait to run around touching small children.
BGFUSAB's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/12/2010 13:02
BGFUSAB
It seems to me that Fable 3 is casting of the last vestiges of it's status an an RPG. Fable 2's footing in the RPG genre was already tenuous at best but it seems Lionhead has moved to a more pure action/adventure style game. Of course, none of this means it will be a bad game, I'm sure it'll be fun to play. But I'm a RPG player first and while I had fun playing Fable 2, I felt dissatisfied with some of the RPG aspect and I think this information about Fable 3 just confirms that expectations need to be adjusted entirely. I'm not sure if I will pick this up or not, but I am fairly certain that I won't be coming here for my RPG fix but rather for "mindless fun."
Halidar's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/12/2010 13:20
Halidar
I'm looking forward to this. But as of right now, I refuse to read anything else Fable 3 related so that Molyneux can't build my hopes up and smash them down.
Joey Greenwald's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/12/2010 14:14
Joey Greenwald
Pissed, deleted my fable 2 file like 3 weeks ago.
RichardBlaine's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/12/2010 14:32
RichardBlaine
Definitely a surprising preview. From the quick turnaround to the way it was being talked about, I wasn't expecting it to be this traditional-sounding. The lack of HUD and follower/XP are definitely "discussion worthy" but otherwise this just sounds like your average Fable game with some new gimmicks slapped on.

@Ben PerLee
What kind of Natal support were you hoping for?
Alxariam's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/12/2010 14:41
Alxariam
Damn, I was thinking that this was going to be a horrible game, but this article changed my mind.

PETER MOLYNEUX! THIS IS YOUR LAST CHANCE FOR ME!
Ben Perlee's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/12/2010 14:42
Ben Perlee
RichardBlains: something more than what I've been doing with my Wii since 2006. I want Natal to not be a waste of my money, and I already have a waggle box.
20 Sided Death's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/12/2010 14:45
20 Sided Death
did they fix the clothing issues? Do I need to wear certain ugly clothing in order to bump my non combat statuses? Will I automatically look like I've been eating nothing but chocolate pies for the last 20 years of my life if I put on more than a pair of pants and a shirt?

Purely aesthetical issues but I'm curious. I don't know really how I feel about this game. I enjoyed the last 2 well enough. I'm very happy they're getting rid of the expressions system since it was stupid.

Wasn't there supposed to be some kind of rhythm aspect to combat in Fable II where if you went with the rhythm your combat was smoother? I dunno. I don't like button mashers and thats how melee combat felt to me in Fable II. It was always the same animations and melee combat got boring after a while.

My excitement is tentative, though I am now interested more than before X10.
True Axiom's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/12/2010 15:06
True Axiom
I'll probably pick it up when it's cheap. Like I'mma do with Fable 2.

Unless reviews are Mass Effect 2 good. It sounds like there's been some major changes, but Peter Molyneux is the father of all lies and the mother of all untruths, so I don't believe a god damn word of it until I see it, in a review by Jim Sterling. Or any other pleasant, believable fellow, really.
KoonaTchutaSolo's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/12/2010 16:17
KoonaTchutaSolo
Love the idea of importing your character. Wonder if it's going to have the same hidden completion file necessary for import like Mass Effect 2. If so I'll need to replay the ending on my new console.
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