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She wanted to teach him a few things, like some positions and moves. Laugh Out Loud.
It took him awhile to get on the stool because he was under 5 feet tall.
It took him awhile to get on the stool because he was under 5 feet tall.
I wish I'd played Wow, then I could have had so many more double entendres relating to it in my post. :(
I'm disappointed by this post. It seems lots of bloggers nowadays just bash to bash. First of all, if you've known someone for a year whether it be online or in person, you know LOTS of things about them. Just because they met in game does not mean that the only context for which they knew each other was IN the game.
Second, the legal age of consent in Australia is 16. Just because there's some magical age that our culture puts on maturity doesn't mean that it applies to all people.
Also, you neglected to mention that the parents of the 17 year old PAID for her plane ticket out.
Second, the legal age of consent in Australia is 16. Just because there's some magical age that our culture puts on maturity doesn't mean that it applies to all people.
Also, you neglected to mention that the parents of the 17 year old PAID for her plane ticket out.
I was going to ask if she was hot but a little googleing found this 
Now I wonder if the guy was not easy on the eyes as well for him to want to settle for this.
Now I wonder if the guy was not easy on the eyes as well for him to want to settle for this.
Yeah, you just forget that you're dealing with a TEENAGER and someone in her 30's. Even if it was perfectly legal at any age to bone who you wanted, you've got someone just at the beginning of his life as an adult, and another who is quite accustomed to it and will expect certain things.
JUST from a sociological standpoint, don't we have ENOUGH kids breeding and "settling down" before they've even graduated high school? Is it so much to ask to let kids be kids these days, experience college, get their education and worry about shit like that later?
Point is, he's still a minor and she led him out of the country. She was the adult in the situation. I hope she gets everything coming to her.
JUST from a sociological standpoint, don't we have ENOUGH kids breeding and "settling down" before they've even graduated high school? Is it so much to ask to let kids be kids these days, experience college, get their education and worry about shit like that later?
Point is, he's still a minor and she led him out of the country. She was the adult in the situation. I hope she gets everything coming to her.
Subject117:
First, I don't understand what you mean by the first paragraph. I wasn't bashing the medium their relationship took part in, just the age gap. I don't care that they met in WoW. I know many people who've formed happy relationships after meeting online, and hold them in no higher or lower value.
Second, a 17 - 31 age gap is, quite frankly, pathetic, and more than a little creepy. If she were 18 - early 20's, I wouldn't find it even half as ridiculous, but at 31, you'd have to be severely mentally stunted to have enough in common with a 17 year old to 'fall in love'.
First, I don't understand what you mean by the first paragraph. I wasn't bashing the medium their relationship took part in, just the age gap. I don't care that they met in WoW. I know many people who've formed happy relationships after meeting online, and hold them in no higher or lower value.
Second, a 17 - 31 age gap is, quite frankly, pathetic, and more than a little creepy. If she were 18 - early 20's, I wouldn't find it even half as ridiculous, but at 31, you'd have to be severely mentally stunted to have enough in common with a 17 year old to 'fall in love'.
@subject117
First of all, if you've known someone for a year whether it be online or in person, you know LOTS of things about them.
you assume what you know is thruth.idk about you but i lie a ton online because well i dont you people!so it dont matter lol(see i did it there i didnt really laugh out loud)anyways who wants to fly over to my private island and ride go karts while siping pia colada under the rain?seriously i own it.
First of all, if you've known someone for a year whether it be online or in person, you know LOTS of things about them.
you assume what you know is thruth.idk about you but i lie a ton online because well i dont you people!so it dont matter lol(see i did it there i didnt really laugh out loud)anyways who wants to fly over to my private island and ride go karts while siping pia colada under the rain?seriously i own it.
I dunno. I met my wife online and we spent quite a bit of time e-dating before we actually met up in the flesh. When all you can do is talk, there's quite a bit you get to know about a person.
That said, I'm in agreement with subject117. I know lots of couples who have one in their 50's and the other in their 40's for example. Nobody talks about their age gap, even if they met at 17 and 27, for example. Sometimes, love and maturity don't have a specific age like "18".
That said, I'm in agreement with subject117. I know lots of couples who have one in their 50's and the other in their 40's for example. Nobody talks about their age gap, even if they met at 17 and 27, for example. Sometimes, love and maturity don't have a specific age like "18".
"three detectives with a +5 in arrest magic and a -10 in taking kindly to women escorting minors out of the country. "
Jim Sterling...you rule!
Jim Sterling...you rule!
Mister Disco: Doesn't matter if nobody talks about it. No matter the age, if you're a decade apart, there's something wrong. The elder one has had a breadth of experience that far outweights the younger. 40 - 50 would still raise an eyebrow from me.
yeah, your typical Joe Burling Twist because his daddy didn't love him, and he developed an intense hatred for aussies after he got the shits after eating at the Outback Steakhouse.
I applaud you.
I applaud you.
Well lets do the math here. The case here is a 31 year old and a 17 year old so the year difference is 14 with a 45% age difference. A couple where one is 40 and the other is 50 has a 10 year difference but also has a 20% age difference. Now Snaileb gave his brother as an example so a couple of 29 and 20 has an age difference of 9 years with a 31% age difference.
Now what can we conclude from this? Well if we put the same age difference to the second two examples then the 50 year old would be dating a 27.5 year old and Snaileb's brother would be dating a 16 year old effectively making him a pedo. I'm sure that if we see couples like this we would think the 27 year old only wants his money and Snaileb's brother would be in jail.
What seems natural in telling whats wrong in these age difference cases for me is to use the percentage difference and the fact that kids in high school have no clue as to what they really want out of life.
Now what can we conclude from this? Well if we put the same age difference to the second two examples then the 50 year old would be dating a 27.5 year old and Snaileb's brother would be dating a 16 year old effectively making him a pedo. I'm sure that if we see couples like this we would think the 27 year old only wants his money and Snaileb's brother would be in jail.
What seems natural in telling whats wrong in these age difference cases for me is to use the percentage difference and the fact that kids in high school have no clue as to what they really want out of life.
Well you're obviously welcome to your opinion, Jim, but I can honestly say that everyone in the world doesn't fit into neat little packages with expected intelligence levels and maturity levels at specific ages. Experience counts for a lot, but each individual is different. I just don't think we should all be judged by some default scale, that's all.
Disco:
While I agree that life is about shades of grey, morality has to be defined by black and white. It might not be a perfect system, but lines have to be drawn at a fixed point. I've drawn mine, and mine says that when someone's dating someone that was 10 when they were 20, that's just fucked up.
I'm no white clad saint, and I consider myself an open minded guy, but when it comes to age, no. Some differences just say a lot of the older person. I know of more than one person into dating 18-19 year olds at the age of 28-29 and it just paints a picture of a very immature person who can't interact with people their age properly. Several years either way is fine, but when you're nearing those double figures, just ugh.
While I agree that life is about shades of grey, morality has to be defined by black and white. It might not be a perfect system, but lines have to be drawn at a fixed point. I've drawn mine, and mine says that when someone's dating someone that was 10 when they were 20, that's just fucked up.
I'm no white clad saint, and I consider myself an open minded guy, but when it comes to age, no. Some differences just say a lot of the older person. I know of more than one person into dating 18-19 year olds at the age of 28-29 and it just paints a picture of a very immature person who can't interact with people their age properly. Several years either way is fine, but when you're nearing those double figures, just ugh.
All this talk is making me think of a part in some movie where the guy says, "The good thing about high school girls is that I keep getting older and they keep staying the same age." Damn, what movie is this from?
This makes me lol.
Though it is often the case that 'the older woman' is hot, this is just plain rediculous.
Goddamn WoW players.
Though it is often the case that 'the older woman' is hot, this is just plain rediculous.
Goddamn WoW players.
I really don't see a problem with the age issue. I don't think age should matter if two people actually care about each other and have enough in common to have a relationship. The only mistake she made was not being smart about it and waiting until he was 18 and legal. But, then again, even then I don't really have a problem with the age difference, as long as it's all consensual why should anyone object? When I was 16, I actually had a 27 year old woman interested in me and we dated for a little while. That's an 11 year age difference, and I've never had anyone say it was wrong or anything.
If you ever have a 16 year-old daughter living at home, and a 27 year-old guy was interested in dating her, are you prepared to shrug your shoulders and say, "Well, if he LOVES her . . ."
I would hope not, because I'd heavily scrutinize this guy's idea of "love". What would someone that age POSSIBLY have in common with a 16 year-old? Still in high school, still missing out on a lot of experience and maturity (and "mature for a 16 year-old" does NOT equal "mature enough to date a 27 year-old").
I'm sorry, but anytime I see an age gap THAT big, I immediately wonder what the elder person's damage is. If a person is nearly a decade older than another yet manages to find them intellectually stimulating enough, then that person is obviously undeveloped - intellectually and most likely emotionally. And these are exactly the types of guys who, say, pressure the naive 16 year-old into letting him have sex with her without a condom, or do any other kind of dangerous shit. One can smoke, the other can't; one can vote, the other can't. One can DRINK, the other can't.
The disparity is huge. And even if you get higher up there in age - it may not be illegal, but it's uneven. To me, the thought of dating a much-older guy is gross. I'd wonder why he couldn't appeal to a woman his own age.
I bristle at people who are fine with allowing society to squeak by on the bare minimum. I'd never try to make my viewpoints into LAW; I'd much rather see people actually make the correct decisions instead of thinking with their genitalia. If I'm 30 years-old, I wouldn't WANT an 18 year-old, legal or not. The years between 18-25 are years of incredible growth and education. I'm not going to take those away from some kid and expect him to fulfill my desire to be completely monogamous and take on responsibilities that come with cohabitation. He'd still deserve the chance to be young.
I'd be hardpressed to find a May-December relationship that wasn't an act of complete selfishness on the part of the elder partner.
I would hope not, because I'd heavily scrutinize this guy's idea of "love". What would someone that age POSSIBLY have in common with a 16 year-old? Still in high school, still missing out on a lot of experience and maturity (and "mature for a 16 year-old" does NOT equal "mature enough to date a 27 year-old").
I'm sorry, but anytime I see an age gap THAT big, I immediately wonder what the elder person's damage is. If a person is nearly a decade older than another yet manages to find them intellectually stimulating enough, then that person is obviously undeveloped - intellectually and most likely emotionally. And these are exactly the types of guys who, say, pressure the naive 16 year-old into letting him have sex with her without a condom, or do any other kind of dangerous shit. One can smoke, the other can't; one can vote, the other can't. One can DRINK, the other can't.
The disparity is huge. And even if you get higher up there in age - it may not be illegal, but it's uneven. To me, the thought of dating a much-older guy is gross. I'd wonder why he couldn't appeal to a woman his own age.
I bristle at people who are fine with allowing society to squeak by on the bare minimum. I'd never try to make my viewpoints into LAW; I'd much rather see people actually make the correct decisions instead of thinking with their genitalia. If I'm 30 years-old, I wouldn't WANT an 18 year-old, legal or not. The years between 18-25 are years of incredible growth and education. I'm not going to take those away from some kid and expect him to fulfill my desire to be completely monogamous and take on responsibilities that come with cohabitation. He'd still deserve the chance to be young.
I'd be hardpressed to find a May-December relationship that wasn't an act of complete selfishness on the part of the elder partner.
[i] Jim Sterling says:
07/02/2007 14:38
Until now. That's fucked up.
Seriously, I'm surprised at a few people here.
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I concur.
Seriously, a decade or more difference is strange. Maybe not in 14th century Europe where 30-year-old males wed and impregnated a girl at 13, but definitely strange nowadays.
I don't really care how "mature" the younger kid is for his age. Some of you claimed things don't fit in neat little packages but continue to classify 'maturity' as such as well. What's mature, exactly? Is mental maturity the point at which you claim the kid doesn't play with GI Joes or Barbie dolls as much anymore and thus worthy of a good introductory shagging?
And lets not kid ourselves here, lots of older people go out with much younger folk solely because the kids want to experience sex so badly, they'll do it with anyone. And the older coots want it now because they stare at the mirror and get all sad about their age and wish to deny it.
I mean, for Critter's sakes, let the kids be kids and get your own damn friends you old perves.
07/02/2007 14:38
Until now. That's fucked up.
Seriously, I'm surprised at a few people here.
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I concur.
Seriously, a decade or more difference is strange. Maybe not in 14th century Europe where 30-year-old males wed and impregnated a girl at 13, but definitely strange nowadays.
I don't really care how "mature" the younger kid is for his age. Some of you claimed things don't fit in neat little packages but continue to classify 'maturity' as such as well. What's mature, exactly? Is mental maturity the point at which you claim the kid doesn't play with GI Joes or Barbie dolls as much anymore and thus worthy of a good introductory shagging?
And lets not kid ourselves here, lots of older people go out with much younger folk solely because the kids want to experience sex so badly, they'll do it with anyone. And the older coots want it now because they stare at the mirror and get all sad about their age and wish to deny it.
I mean, for Critter's sakes, let the kids be kids and get your own damn friends you old perves.
He should have flown to Australia and married her there! It would've been legal! This is kinda ridiculous and stupid. Silly douche should've fled the US of Anal and gone to Australia to marry her.
She looks like a 31 year old going on 16. Kinda creepy. Just like this whole topic. She was stupid for letting things get that carried away to begin with as the older 'mature' person supposedly. I thought it was a joke at first, but she really did fly to another hemisphere to bone a young dude. Freaky.
I see two different viewpoints here. First, Lord Sterling's ritious indignation reeks of guilt. He's also yougn and I must say that my views were more simaler to his when I was in my college years.
Under age should not be allowed, but if he was 18 and wanted to run off with a 33 year old, let him make his own mistakes. It's his own business and fuck-up in a few months.
Under age should not be allowed, but if he was 18 and wanted to run off with a 33 year old, let him make his own mistakes. It's his own business and fuck-up in a few months.
I was wondering if she was hot. I was wondering what the problem was. Then I saw that picture of her.
Blocker: Guilt? I ... don't see what you mean there. How does my being young mark me as guilty of anything?
And hey, I agree that at 18, it's his right and his choice. But it still says a lot for the mentality of the older woman. She's clearly mentally and emotionally immature.
And hey, I agree that at 18, it's his right and his choice. But it still says a lot for the mentality of the older woman. She's clearly mentally and emotionally immature.
Haha, I wonder if the dude was telling his bodies online that he's going go to bang a hot 30 year old. Maybe so..
"JUST from a sociological standpoint, don't we have ENOUGH kids breeding and "settling down" before they've even graduated high school? Is it so much to ask to let kids be kids these days, experience college, get their education and worry about shit like that later?"
Humans created different goals, standards and rules that make them feel superior. Sex is completely natural. Sometimes, the body demands it depending on the person. What is not natural is denying yourself the fact that you crave sex deep down. To be honest, the people denying their natural urges are either really religious and dogmatic or they're just full of shit in my view.
The age difference is disgusting to you, because you've had the right people tell you that way. That's how it is with fetishes too. For some, it's hard to admit their fetishes because of the guilt forced down.
Humans feel superior by going by the man-made rules because they weren't able to decide what is correct and what is bullshit by themselves. However, it's alright to try not to do something illegal. But when I'm reaching 27 or an age like that, I'll be with a girl who's in my age range (0-5 year difference). Not only because of the law, but because I won't be very attracted by high schoolers. Hell, I'm 18 and I'm even more attracted to college girls than high schoolers.
But anyways, good article, Sterling.
Humans created different goals, standards and rules that make them feel superior. Sex is completely natural. Sometimes, the body demands it depending on the person. What is not natural is denying yourself the fact that you crave sex deep down. To be honest, the people denying their natural urges are either really religious and dogmatic or they're just full of shit in my view.
The age difference is disgusting to you, because you've had the right people tell you that way. That's how it is with fetishes too. For some, it's hard to admit their fetishes because of the guilt forced down.
Humans feel superior by going by the man-made rules because they weren't able to decide what is correct and what is bullshit by themselves. However, it's alright to try not to do something illegal. But when I'm reaching 27 or an age like that, I'll be with a girl who's in my age range (0-5 year difference). Not only because of the law, but because I won't be very attracted by high schoolers. Hell, I'm 18 and I'm even more attracted to college girls than high schoolers.
But anyways, good article, Sterling.
I think humans changed the rules AS they expected more of themselves. It wasn't a thing to marry a 13 year-old to some older guy back in the 16th century because 1) there were less people around there, 2) they were far more agrarian and needed more workers to help, 3) the life expectancy was a lot shorter and 4) mostly, boys and girls had little else to expect for themselves but getting married, having children, surviving and dying, leaving their own kids to repeat the process.
As we've become more of a society of leisure, of marrying and pairing for LOVE, we place standards on it. That's not to say they're WRONG, they're just different than they used to be. I think, even BACK in the dark ages, marriages should've been about love, not just continuation of the species. We're above animals.
But exactly, you're more attracted to people within a 5 year age range - I'm not EXACTLY sure why, I but I assume if it's in a romantic respect, it's because you've got something in common with them, intellectually or emotionally. There's a reason high school girls are typically annoying to adults - the concerns that are so crucial to them are small potatoes to us. Why? Different experiences. Age. We know better.
That's why I find a much older man or woman who can be attracted to a high schooler disgusting - that person is obviously grossly immature to find such a person INTERESTING romantically. Either that, or "interest" doesn't truly come into the picture, and it's a completely sex-based attraction. Either is insulting and pointless, and if it was my kid, it'd earn someone a quick slice across the throat.
As we've become more of a society of leisure, of marrying and pairing for LOVE, we place standards on it. That's not to say they're WRONG, they're just different than they used to be. I think, even BACK in the dark ages, marriages should've been about love, not just continuation of the species. We're above animals.
But exactly, you're more attracted to people within a 5 year age range - I'm not EXACTLY sure why, I but I assume if it's in a romantic respect, it's because you've got something in common with them, intellectually or emotionally. There's a reason high school girls are typically annoying to adults - the concerns that are so crucial to them are small potatoes to us. Why? Different experiences. Age. We know better.
That's why I find a much older man or woman who can be attracted to a high schooler disgusting - that person is obviously grossly immature to find such a person INTERESTING romantically. Either that, or "interest" doesn't truly come into the picture, and it's a completely sex-based attraction. Either is insulting and pointless, and if it was my kid, it'd earn someone a quick slice across the throat.
And fetishes, if you look them up, ARE psychological disorders. There is a major difference between a guy who gets a little turned on by looking at feet, and who MUST have some woman stomp on his junk with her daintily painted toesies in order to even get an erection.
Paraphilias are classified as a disorder for a reason. Pedophilia - or fixation on ANY specific age group - is a paraphilia, and it is a psychological disorder. So don't give me any of that psychobabble guilt shit. Fetishes like pedophilia SHOULD be forced down and guilted. You want to fuck children. I hope you feel as guilty as OJ Simpson in the murder mystery section.
Paraphilias are classified as a disorder for a reason. Pedophilia - or fixation on ANY specific age group - is a paraphilia, and it is a psychological disorder. So don't give me any of that psychobabble guilt shit. Fetishes like pedophilia SHOULD be forced down and guilted. You want to fuck children. I hope you feel as guilty as OJ Simpson in the murder mystery section.
People are actually defending a 31 year-old woman's relationship with a 17 year-old boy? God, some of you are starting to creep me out.
I was 24 when I finally went out with the hotest single skinny dirty-blonde but with an nice @$$ milf on the MMO server I used to play with. she was 36, she payed for for teh whole trip and we stayed near canada, Buffalo. And we both understood our age difference and that we wanted some cuddling time n just have fun. Of course I brought her presents and i made damn sure she had a good time, and we both had fun. I honestly wished she was 10 years younger or me 10 years older or so, I might have stayed with her.
btw it wasnt WoW.
btw it wasnt WoW.
Your first response was good. Your second pissed me off a bit.
You seem to be misreading my comments. So I'll say it straight-forward. Now I don't like pedophilia. I believe it's wrong because minors are very stupid and don't know what the Hell they are getting into. I had a pedophile co-worker who was attracted and very friendly to me and I was a little uncomfortable about it. However, I remained calm about it and simply rejected having a few drinks with him. No, I don't want to fuck children. It's not what I like.
I didn't even defend pedophilia. I was responding to different comments. DO NOT TWIST WHAT I WROTE!
For my last point, if fetishes for breasts, anal sex, big butts, homosexuality and even breast jobs are alright, what makes other fetishes like feet and masochism wrong?
That's one of the things I tried getting across. By the way, I'm not assuming that you think these fetishes are wrong. I'm just talking about standards from different people.
For the last time. I don't approve of pedophilia. The main reason is that the adult is taking advantage of a kid who doesn't know what it's doing. I DON'T WANT TO FUCK KIDS. I know you probably think I'm a liar and getting defensive.
But I'm done arguing. If you have any good points for me, go ahead.
You seem to be misreading my comments. So I'll say it straight-forward. Now I don't like pedophilia. I believe it's wrong because minors are very stupid and don't know what the Hell they are getting into. I had a pedophile co-worker who was attracted and very friendly to me and I was a little uncomfortable about it. However, I remained calm about it and simply rejected having a few drinks with him. No, I don't want to fuck children. It's not what I like.
I didn't even defend pedophilia. I was responding to different comments. DO NOT TWIST WHAT I WROTE!
For my last point, if fetishes for breasts, anal sex, big butts, homosexuality and even breast jobs are alright, what makes other fetishes like feet and masochism wrong?
That's one of the things I tried getting across. By the way, I'm not assuming that you think these fetishes are wrong. I'm just talking about standards from different people.
For the last time. I don't approve of pedophilia. The main reason is that the adult is taking advantage of a kid who doesn't know what it's doing. I DON'T WANT TO FUCK KIDS. I know you probably think I'm a liar and getting defensive.
But I'm done arguing. If you have any good points for me, go ahead.
Some of you people really need to run what pedophilia is on Wikipedia.
Also, learning the term pre-pubescent might be a good idea.
Also, learning the term pre-pubescent might be a good idea.
AS much as i hate agreeing with Jim on anything, I do on this.
Any 17 year old that think he or she is mature. Is full of shit. Hell i'm likely to think most 25 years olds still lack basic common sense. I know i'm still maturing as a person and i'm 22.
I have older friends and they seem almost 10 times more immature then i am. I'm thinking perhaps that almighty "21" should be pushed way back. People seem to be getting more and more immature at older ages per generation. Either that or i'm just jaded.
Although when it's a 17 year old and 18 year old and they put the 18 year old away as a sex offender.. that pisses me off. But that really doesn't have anything to do with this.
Any 17 year old that think he or she is mature. Is full of shit. Hell i'm likely to think most 25 years olds still lack basic common sense. I know i'm still maturing as a person and i'm 22.
I have older friends and they seem almost 10 times more immature then i am. I'm thinking perhaps that almighty "21" should be pushed way back. People seem to be getting more and more immature at older ages per generation. Either that or i'm just jaded.
Although when it's a 17 year old and 18 year old and they put the 18 year old away as a sex offender.. that pisses me off. But that really doesn't have anything to do with this.
I didn't twist what you said, AngryI. You brought up the word fetish. Something tells me you're using "fetish" in much the sense that the porn industry uses the word "fetish", in that it's as simple as "something a person likes sexually".
That isn't what a fetish is. You're painting me to be some sexually repressed Jesus-freak or a moral Molly. Yes, I do have morals, but my take is this: if you like having your arse spanked, if you like feet, if you're a man who wants to dress like a woman, go ahead and knock yourself out. Have fun; that's what it's all about, at least for me (as I damned sure don't want more children).
A real, honest-to-goodness FETISH is a paraphilia. Typically, it's a non-sexual object or condition (in and of itself) that is sexualized to a degree where its presence MUST be available in order for the person to feel aroused. That's why you can't have a "penis fetish" or a "breast fetish". Those are inherently sexual body parts, mostly.
I don't know about you, but I'll tell you, I'm a sucker for a man in a suit. I LOVE suits. I certainly don't mind having sex with a man in a suit. That's not a fetish; that's an attraction. That's something that turns me on.
I do NOT have to have a person in a suit in order to feel sexual arousal. Someone who WOULD have to have that has a true fetish, and YES, I would find something wrong with that. Even sexual turn-ons that I don't find repugnant (and there aren't many, before you go presuming I'm so straightlaced again), I would consider unhealthy if someone had an actual FETISH for them.
And let me clarify, when I said "you" as in "wanting to fuck kids" that was meant as a general "you", meaning pedophiles, not YOU actually. Sorry if I wasn't clear.
Anyway, the point is, WAY too many confuse fetishes for turn-ons. Turn-ons are fine, and even if something doesn't rind my bell, hey, as long as you're not hurting anyone, go for it. Generally, the psychiatric community even agrees - it might be a mental hang-up to have a fetish, but if it's something harmless like a foot fetish, whatever. Let's just hope you marry a foot model.
A fetish for any specific age group that is below the age of consent IS harmful. Luring a minor away from his country, that IS harmful. And the reason we have general agreement from most of decent civilization is because we DO try to live above animals. Animals may have sex with relatives and with those of their kind who are very young because they don't see anything but reproductive ability. We as humans expect more from people, and my own opinion is, I expect more from humanity than the simple bare minimum the law allows. I'd have looked down on this woman even IF the guy was 18 because I think the age gap is disgusting, for all the aforementioned reasons. I don't seek to make my opinion the law, it's just how I feel. I think I have very lucid, logical reasons for feeling how I do.
That isn't what a fetish is. You're painting me to be some sexually repressed Jesus-freak or a moral Molly. Yes, I do have morals, but my take is this: if you like having your arse spanked, if you like feet, if you're a man who wants to dress like a woman, go ahead and knock yourself out. Have fun; that's what it's all about, at least for me (as I damned sure don't want more children).
A real, honest-to-goodness FETISH is a paraphilia. Typically, it's a non-sexual object or condition (in and of itself) that is sexualized to a degree where its presence MUST be available in order for the person to feel aroused. That's why you can't have a "penis fetish" or a "breast fetish". Those are inherently sexual body parts, mostly.
I don't know about you, but I'll tell you, I'm a sucker for a man in a suit. I LOVE suits. I certainly don't mind having sex with a man in a suit. That's not a fetish; that's an attraction. That's something that turns me on.
I do NOT have to have a person in a suit in order to feel sexual arousal. Someone who WOULD have to have that has a true fetish, and YES, I would find something wrong with that. Even sexual turn-ons that I don't find repugnant (and there aren't many, before you go presuming I'm so straightlaced again), I would consider unhealthy if someone had an actual FETISH for them.
And let me clarify, when I said "you" as in "wanting to fuck kids" that was meant as a general "you", meaning pedophiles, not YOU actually. Sorry if I wasn't clear.
Anyway, the point is, WAY too many confuse fetishes for turn-ons. Turn-ons are fine, and even if something doesn't rind my bell, hey, as long as you're not hurting anyone, go for it. Generally, the psychiatric community even agrees - it might be a mental hang-up to have a fetish, but if it's something harmless like a foot fetish, whatever. Let's just hope you marry a foot model.
A fetish for any specific age group that is below the age of consent IS harmful. Luring a minor away from his country, that IS harmful. And the reason we have general agreement from most of decent civilization is because we DO try to live above animals. Animals may have sex with relatives and with those of their kind who are very young because they don't see anything but reproductive ability. We as humans expect more from people, and my own opinion is, I expect more from humanity than the simple bare minimum the law allows. I'd have looked down on this woman even IF the guy was 18 because I think the age gap is disgusting, for all the aforementioned reasons. I don't seek to make my opinion the law, it's just how I feel. I think I have very lucid, logical reasons for feeling how I do.
To sum it up: yes, there is a difference between pedophilia and severe cougar-itis, but none of them is right. I mean.....ewww.
And it certainly doesn't help a still growing young man/woman to be thrown in the middle of a 31 year old man/woman's early mid life crisis.
Seriously, some of you guys are a little...eerie.
And it certainly doesn't help a still growing young man/woman to be thrown in the middle of a 31 year old man/woman's early mid life crisis.
Seriously, some of you guys are a little...eerie.
I just don't understand how
18 year old girl can fuck an date 60 year old dude
but
a 17 year old guy and a 31 year old woman can't date?
TBH the whole system is just retarded 1 year and you can date everyone you want but having like a cutoff saying 17 an below can't date anyone above 17 is rediuclous a 17 year old and a 18 year old are about the same age but its illegal that makes more sense then a 18 and 50 year old or something
18 year old girl can fuck an date 60 year old dude
but
a 17 year old guy and a 31 year old woman can't date?
TBH the whole system is just retarded 1 year and you can date everyone you want but having like a cutoff saying 17 an below can't date anyone above 17 is rediuclous a 17 year old and a 18 year old are about the same age but its illegal that makes more sense then a 18 and 50 year old or something
"And let me clarify, when I said "you" as in "wanting to fuck kids" that was meant as a general "you", meaning pedophiles, not YOU actually. Sorry if I wasn't clear."
Hey, I'm trying not to make myself look like an ass. It's just that I get really defensive. Rumors are a usual problem for me, so I try to be as careful as possible.
By now, I think we're playing word games with each other. Hell, we have porn sites listing what we mentioned as "fetishes" when others classify them as "turn ons". Don't ask how I know.
But I want to talk about games now. Speaking of which, I like it when a girl kicks my ass in gaming. I don't mean as in "Oops, I 'accidentally' missed when attacking". I mean as in "Holy shit, you handed me my own ass when I tried!"
Hey, I'm trying not to make myself look like an ass. It's just that I get really defensive. Rumors are a usual problem for me, so I try to be as careful as possible.
By now, I think we're playing word games with each other. Hell, we have porn sites listing what we mentioned as "fetishes" when others classify them as "turn ons". Don't ask how I know.
But I want to talk about games now. Speaking of which, I like it when a girl kicks my ass in gaming. I don't mean as in "Oops, I 'accidentally' missed when attacking". I mean as in "Holy shit, you handed me my own ass when I tried!"
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