$30? God damn, what a rip-off. It'd be easier to just buy $20 worth of gold and start a new character.

$30 is way too rich unless it included a complimentary server transfer.

If so, I'd consider moving over my Orc Shaman to Alliance when I start up again for Cataclysm.

Also, I can see insane pros constantly changing over their mains to double raid once every 60 days (if you can do that).

lol @ depressed, asocial, non-passionate WoW demographic.

Haha, so little WoW love these days in general communities.

They've been reduced to niche sites like MMO Champion and worldofraids.

because its a scam of a game. exploits your feeble emotions. gives you crack like addictions to loot. its terrible game design. easy to use to lure in all that are vulnerable.

i played the game. i wish i understood sooner their cycle of deception.

finish raid content get all loot, wait for patch of new raid content and new loot, rinse and repeat 4 years later. thank you for money.

theyre finally making the game what it should have been with cataclysm but at its core its flawed with the raid and dependence on others.

the game is boring. its not challenging. if you have nothing else going in life, then sink deep into your emotional holes and become buried in nothingness.

Because playing WoW instantly makes you a drooling, depressed, anti-social and friendless loser.
In other games, constant adding of new raid content and loot would be considered actively supporting a game, suddenly it's a cycle of deception.

you're missing the point because you're part of the cycle.

people BUY THE GAME because theyre in that state.

South Park Episode 1008 [Make Love, Not Warcraft]
"This may be the end of the world...of warcraft"

I don't really understand why this is being done, and definitely not at the $30 price point.

Oh my god!!!!!! I dont care.

Cant you just make a new charecter? If you play wow, you probubly have enough time on your hands....

There are lots of people that will benefit from this, I'm sure of that. I used to play, and this aspect seems pretty cool. Wouldn't this be pointless for PvP servers though? Because you can only have characters of a certain faction on those servers...so if you had more than 1 character on a PvP server, you'd be screwed out of this offer.

In other news, Wargen druids? Looks cool. I'd like to play as a Worgen, but I just don't have it in me. Raiding just gets old so fast, and I would never want to level all the way up to freakin' 85. Plus I have a life that I value way more than this game...

Electrium: some time in the last couple months (where i took a time-out with WoW), Blizzard changed it so that you can make characters of *both* factions within the same server.

which means that, when that level 80 alliance pally ganks your level 30 horde fella, you can effectively make a level 1 alliance and start trash talking the ganker in /2 trade chat :P

also of note, to Electrium: they're adding a *ton* of low-level content (they're drastically changing the two original continents - Desolace is turning green, Hillsbrad is getting conquered by the Horde, the Barrens are getting torn in two, etc) for this expansion, so even if you're not interested in high-level stuff, there'll be plenty of new stuff to do.

It is funny you said this is like an MMO sex change operation, because WoW has offered "character recustomizations" for a while now that let you change your looks... including your name and your gender.

brad, why are you so amazing?

How I'm part of the cycle I don't know, partly because I don't even play WoW anymore. I was mostly commenting on you're half-way conspiratorial comment.

I'm surprised this is live now! I thought it was an expansion feature.

$30's pretty rich, but I can see why someone might want to do it. If you find WoW before you find a cool core group of people to play it with, this can help you get over with some people you'd rather play with. That could be worth it.

Consider the monthly fee, this out of game customization stuff is a hard sell, for me. I've got a Paladin I'd like to switch servers with... just not that badly :)

@Bruceleeethree: Y'now, arguing psychology works better if you have any evidence, research, or understanding whatsoever of psychology to back it up.

"theyre finally making the game what it should have been with cataclysm but at its core its flawed with the raid and dependence on others."

Dependence on others? In an MMO? Those swine!

Ban that sick filth!

@Tubatic: I've seen his kind before. theyre the same sort of retard we had on the CO Open beta boards insisting it was unfair that soloers didnt get as good of gear as Raiders

As for bruce though..the fact he "understands their cycle of deception" and paints WoW players as depressed, non-motivated losers makes me think he's projecting his own issues onto others..but thats just my psych classes talking.

I'm a depressed non-motivated loser, and I just lost all interest once I reached endgame. Now, if I was a happy, socially competent and heavily motivated loser, I could probably have gotten into trying to get better equipment, raiding, pvping, maybe even roleplay...

blizzard is owned by mr krabs now days, if u no wot i mean

Wow...as a former WoW player, I guarantee you that the WoW message boards are burning up for hatred against Blizzard. All alliance players will be going horde now?

And I guarantee you that a ton of people will pay the $30 despite how crazy it sounds.

Hey everyone, What make you think that your games are better than other peoples games? It's like saying people how love stats in baseball are "depressed non-motivated losers" while stats in Football are ok. Or Noir rules! Westerns suck!

Hey everyone, What make you think that your games are better than other peoples games? It's like saying people that love stats in baseball are "depressed non-motivated losers" while stats in Football are ok. Or Noir rules! Westerns suck!

It takes 8 days of /played time to get to level 80, and that's a drop in the bucket compared to raising professions, getting geared, raising factions. If you really wish you were on the other side, this is worth the $30.

Wondering how long it was going to take for this to come out. How long till they let you change races and classes? No decision making in this game will ever be permanent again.

and thats bad?

WoW didnt get such a runaway success via not giving players what they want.

30 buck go for broke

I dont think this is a good idea, like Electrium said... this is crap for Pvp servers. This defeats the whole initial purpose of pvp servers... but anyway.... I have to admit I am an old Wow player.. I started on early 2007 but as this game keeps expanding, the worse it gets.. Im thinking of bailing out when Cataclysm hits.. looks like sh*t IMO. Everything that was worth your while like mounts are now the easiest thing to get.. I just hate it... (Waiting on Marvel online lol)

I'm an old wow player too..but honestly?

I love the new mount levels now that I've actually tried it. I mean..do you even PLAY lowbies?

I mean..seriously. Mounts are a godsend, especially if you play Alliance like me. Low level content is all over the place, travel time is insane to get levelled. So am I overjoyed that cataclysm will redo 1-60 content and blow half the alliance low level zones I hate so much off the map?

Fuck Yes.

I've been playing WoW on and off literally since launch day, and I definitly see how $30 (while pricey) can be worth it (yes I actually bought the faction change). The reason behind my purchase was that way way way back in the day I rolled Horde, leveled my toon, got gear ect. logged something close to 100 days /played. Later on I became friends w/ some people IRL who play WoW, but unfortunatly they played Alliance.

Naturally I want to play w/ friends but as I saw its a big step to go spend 8days x 24hrs = 192 hours logged in (and thats the new faster leveling) just to get a max level character with no gear and be completly behind them in the progression, making me unable to raid w/ them.

3hours at work to make the $30 or 192 hours to level a toon? I made my choice