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World at War beta impressions: How does it compare to Call of Duty 4? photo

With Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare holding its own against the likes of multiplayer juggernaut Halo 3 since it was released almost a year ago, the question on everyone's mind is, undoubtedly, "How does Call of Duty: World at War stack up in comparison?"

Like many of you, I had my doubts about World at War from the start, but for good reason. Infinity Ward has proven itself time and time again; no one's arguing that. Treyarch, on the other hand, has developed a reputation, and let's just say it's not a very good one.

[Editor's note: For whatever reason, Grim's preview disappeared from the site at some point in the day. Anyway, here it is again for all to enjoy. Sorry for the inconvenience.]

Let me start by saying I've invested literally hundreds of hours in Call of Duty 4's multiplayer and participated in the beta for that title as well. To this day, I have a vivid memory of the first time I booted it up, and can still remember how fresh and inspired the gameplay felt initially.

Perhaps, though, I have logged a few too many hours into CoD4, as my first two hours with the World at War beta left me feeling incredibly jaded. For the most part, the game feels almost exactly like CoD4 in terms of just about everything, from the perks to the HUD and even to the way your character handles.

While that may sound negative to some, it's really not. Why would Treyarch want to risk screwing up Infinity Ward's tried-and-true formula? I'm not sure, but then again I haven't the slightest idea why the company decided to travel back to World War II in the first place.

If someone like me, whose first Call of Duty title was Modern Warfare and who has a general hate towards WWI and WWII videogames, can actually find enjoyment in World at War, then I guess Treyarch's done some good for the franchise after all.

Seriously, this mode rocks.

One such example of this is the revamped Domination, which is now appropriately titled "War." Other modes from the beta include your standard Team Deathmatch, Free-for-All, and Capture the Flag, but War is by far my favorite of the bunch.

Rather than having multiple points for your team to capture from the start like in Call of Duty 4's Domination, War has you all going after one initial control point. Once that point is captured, it vanishes from the map and another point pops up in a different location. This goes on until one team has all of the capture points or the timer runs out; in my experience, the latter happens much more frequently.

That might not sound like much in writing, but believe me when I say that it's quite tense and will surely get your adrenaline going, provided the two teams are comparable in skill level. This is especially true of the map Roundhouse, which is easily the best level from a design perspective.

Roundhouse is a large circular map covered with debris from a war-torn European train depot. Unlike the two other beta maps, Castle and Makin, it has drivable tanks, which is something CoD4 is missing entirely. My main issue with those other maps is that they don't flow as nicely and appear to be somewhat thrown together.

PETA <3 World at War

The only other major change between World at War and Modern Warfare that you should know about (besides the weapons, which are from WWII. There. That's it) is the new set of kill streak bonuses.

Kill 3 enemy soldiers in a row, and you'll receive radar support; 5 in a row will net you an artillery strike, which causes your enemies to become incredibly disoriented and lasts considerably longer than it ought to; annihilate 7 soldiers in a row, and you get to unleash a pack of rabid attack dogs.

Sure, you can take down one or two dogs by yourself, but can you fend them off while simultaneously being shot at by your enemy? I know I can't. Personally, the sound the dogs emit right before dying is unbelievably satisfying, but that's just me.

Seeing as how me being excited by dogs dying is just as good of a note to leave on as any, I will summarize my answer to the question in the title by saying that Treyarch has exceeded my expectations, but another Call of Duty from Infinity Ward instead of World at War would've been greatly appreciated.

It'll be interesting to see how those guys handled the campaign mode, as it's got online co-op -- a feature that would've added much-needed replayability to CoD4's single-player experience. Similarly, I'm eager to see what else World at War offers in terms of multiplayer maps beyond the three from the beta.


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dmgi's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/13/2008 19:41
dmgi
My friend was talking about adding on to CoD 4 for a 10 kill streak you get to release the dogs like in the campaign, that's pretty sweet. I feel for this game though, I think it has big shoes to fill after Call of Duty 4, and it's not going to be easy for this game to compete when CoD 4 is still topping the charts on the XBL activity.
MechaMonkey's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/13/2008 19:42
MechaMonkey
I'd love to try it... if I could get a code. Damn callofduty.com won't let me migrate my old account from charlieoscardelta.com.
Scrixx's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/13/2008 19:43
Scrixx
I knew Treyarch could do it, they grow up so fast ;_;
Genfuyung's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/13/2008 19:45
Genfuyung
The graphics aren't very impressive. That dog especially. I am looking forward to the co-op campaign though.
Danmartigan's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/13/2008 19:45
Danmartigan
Oh god the dog attack is the new wafflecopter?

HOW MANY DOGS MUST DIE???
DemonEyes23's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/13/2008 19:46
DemonEyes23
This War mode sounds like headquarters to me
Pygmy's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/13/2008 19:54
Pygmy
"Treyarch's done some good for the franchise after all."

Reading that makes me cringe.
Jordan Devore's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/13/2008 22:21
Jordan Devore
It is similar to Headquarters, but the modes play very differently.
GnappyAssassin's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2008 01:11
GnappyAssassin
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GnappyAssassin's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2008 01:11
GnappyAssassin
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Volomon's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2008 01:12
Volomon
I think its pretty telling that the game doesn't look very good at all, considering they already had an engine built for them ready to go says a lot. The dogs thing really doesn't make much sense to me either neither side used dogs in large packs. Except maybe Russians.
GnappyAssassin's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2008 01:13
GnappyAssassin
Whoops, that meant to be a single spamming of that...

I double believe it though, so I guess it's Ok.
CAVE's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2008 01:17
CAVE
Alright, war is back! I sunk countless amount hours into that mode in cod3. I feel like the only one who had more fun with cod3 than 4. Can't wait to get my hands on Treyarch's new product.
Gamer Named Tim's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2008 01:18
Gamer Named Tim
I might just buy this for the single player and stay for the multiplayer.
Simmons 2pt0's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2008 01:18
Simmons 2pt0
I didn't realize the beta was playable on the Wii.
Dan CiTi's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2008 01:18
Dan CiTi
Oh god the killstreak bonuses still suck. Are the grenades still game breaking/easymode?
Dan CiTi's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2008 01:20
Dan CiTi
Also, cherry blossoms look odd in a world of brown & tan colors.
Grasshopper7's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2008 01:31
Grasshopper7
Yunno, I'd never played a Call of Duty game until a while ago. I knew it was a series so it seemed to just blend into a dull blur of army fatigue green and brown along with Medal of Honor as one of those soulless WWII franchises that just never caught my interest. But on a friend's recommendation I rented COD4 last week and it blew my freaking socks off. Only had it for a couple of nights, got halfway through the campaign and didn't get a chance to try multiplayer but it was awesome. And I think that placing the game in a modern setting is part of what made it something special. I just don't know if I can get into just another WWII shooter. Even if I am COD convert...
savagesaladin's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2008 01:38
savagesaladin
Any types of remote explosives?
jediyoshi's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2008 01:42
jediyoshi
It's okay. Unfortunately okay won't cut it for me with this onslaught of games coming out. If I wanted something awkwardly similiar to the last game I'd get GOW2, which I probably will. Because it's pretty.
jediyoshi's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2008 01:45
jediyoshi
@savagesaladin

Yeah, you detonate them the same way too. All the weapon upgrades are pretty much there as well, silencer, red dot sight = aperture (glass lens thing with the crosshair drawn in the center), acog = scope, grenade launcher
nebones's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2008 01:48
nebones
God damn it, I want to the play the beta :[
Puppetpallmich's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2008 02:04
Puppetpallmich
hey it was fun playing with u grim. the games okay but i liked the feel of cod 4 better, world at war seems like a day of defeat mod on the cod 4 engine. its okay but he textures are lacking, especially on castle and it just doesn't have the same fast pace and epic feel 4 still retains.

also i still retain the same anamostity to that shit bag dev Treyarch. no one likes them anyway why couldn't they just go die, stupid filler company
AngelsDontBurn's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2008 02:11
AngelsDontBurn
I like it a lot actually. Much better than I thought it would be. Definitely the best WWII game in awhile. Kudos to Treyarch.
Varcal's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2008 02:57
Varcal
Call of duty 1 and 2 are still the best ones
Kylius's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2008 03:27
Kylius
Looks good, I'm not a massive online gamer personally, but COD4 had me hooked for a good long while, so colour me interested!

I really hope that the campaign is awesome, the COD games have an excellent reputation for story telling, and that's what I've come to love about the series.

Also - That dog's mouth looks ridiculous! Why even try to render gums? Just leave it at teeth and be done with it!
ScottyG's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2008 03:47
ScottyG
Ug, initial impressions for me aren't really that good. IMO anybody who even remotely disliked the helicopter in CoD4 will absolutely hate the dogs, as they seem even more cheap. Other than that it's just more of the same: a game that I'd enjoy playing with friends, but not with random pickups.
Professor Pew's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2008 05:51
Professor Pew
I had high hopes for this one and it feels off somehow. Spawning doesn't seem to be as good as COD4 and some of the maps aren't really as well designed as IW's ones in the past :(

Love the tanks, hate the dogs, love the Gewehr 43 although it feels way overpowered. I think I'll play the beta a bit before deciding on buying this one at launch...
cjpkiller's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2008 06:10
cjpkiller
no thanks
treyarch can suck my dick I dont need a cod 4 clone...
ive got cod4.
Mr Melancholy's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2008 06:43
Mr Melancholy
War sounds a lt like Annex from Gears of War.
XanderSan's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2008 06:55
XanderSan
I don't mind it. I mean it's still plenty fun, and it kind of makes the COD4 multiplayer feel a lot fresher all of a sudden.

That said though, it really feels more like a mod than anything else. Like the old Desert Combat modification for Battlefield, only done in reverse. Which isn't exactly a bad thing, but likewise it's not something I'd pay for.
Aurain's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2008 07:11
Aurain
Would be pretty hard for Treyarch to screw up a CoD4 mod.
B-Radicate's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2008 07:16
B-Radicate
As good as it sounds... I just don't want to play another WWII game, plain and simple. I'll hafta have Left 4 Dead fill my multiplayer FPS void this season. Ho hum, how sad...

/sarcasm
l0cke's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2008 07:39
l0cke
Really, I think Red Orchestra will be the last WWII shooter I ever play. It's just so nice how there are no cheap and unrealistic things, like uh, packs of dogs.
Captain Morgan's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2008 07:48
Captain Morgan
I think that it's the WWII style that is keeping me from looking forward to this game as well, but I doubt that I'll have money left over for it anyway.
elsteveo's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2008 07:59
elsteveo
It will probably be a good game to try out later into next year after the good games hit and you get bored with them or something of that nature
blehman's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2008 08:25
blehman
I had a lot of fun playing last night, except those fucking dogs.

That and I'm apparently pretty rusty at FPS multiplayer games.
Skribble's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2008 08:47
Skribble
what a fucking disgusting HUD
aborto thefetus's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2008 08:50
aborto thefetus
I liked it but I found it really rough around the edges. In particular the running mechanic which didn't work as well as in Cod4. A lot of the time I found myself pushing down the control stick and nothing happened. Not to mention running seems much more sluggish then it did in Cod4.

And then those damn Artillery strikes which last way to long. I like the dogs though, that is a really good addition.
PySk's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2008 08:56
PySk
@savagesaladin
ya, some kind of 'remote tnt'

also: it is much more violent than cod4, a grenade blow away 'my' legs, like LT Dan from 'Forrest Gump' ?!
Drunken Haze's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2008 09:01
Drunken Haze
Everyone hates on ww2 games but i feel like there hasnt been one worth playing in ages and this might make a nice change.

I still hold out hope for a WW1 shooter or a napolionic fps. Now that would be different.
MmhmBeer's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2008 09:06
MmhmBeer
I just dl'd the demo and played it for about an hour and I gotta say it still has the addictive one more game feel to it. However I think most will agree that it is hard to go back to WW2 weapons after the great COD4. But overall I think many people will be suprised as to how similar multi is.

The grenade throw takes longer and they seem to fly a little heavey compared to the last game. you really have to aim to the sky to get them to go any distance.
mike566's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2008 09:13
mike566
It's bad. The graphics are horrible too.
psycho terror2's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2008 09:31
psycho terror2
@ Dan CiTi

i heard that there's a new perk which resets grenade timers when you throw them back, so if you found yourself getting killed by grenades too much then it sounds like that perk is for you.
JACK of No Trades's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2008 09:33
JACK of No Trades
I have put in ALOT of hours into CoD4. I know everything about it. I think you being too harsh on World at War. CoD4 wasn't perfect. I remember spawning into claymores, airstrikes and right in front/behind enemies. Not to mention the bullet lag and screwy hit detection.

Treyarch can't win with you guys. There damned if they do damned if they don't. I would bet your assed that if Infinity Ward released these same level and upgrades that Treyarch included in World at War you guys would be praising them.

Please stop with all the blind hate. It remindes me of when I started modeling on 3DMax in college. The only reason why I hated using other software was because I learned on 3DMAX and was confortable. There is a lesson to be learned here. Be thankful that we have another COD to play this winter.
grassr00ts's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2008 09:35
grassr00ts
i was told by a buddy, there is a way to revive those who are in last stand, is this true?

if it is, this could make the multiplayer much more fun, with how addicted i was to cod4, im looking forward to this
DJDuffy 's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2008 09:43
DJDuffy
nice little mini-review Grim! sorry we couldn't all squeeze into a room together last night, I guess it caps it at 6 players per party :P

Leveling was super fast...kinda too fast...I maxed out at level 11 in like an hour and a half. The gameplay is pretty much just like COD4 which is good...except there are dogs instead of helicopters and they are really really annoying and hard to kill! Graphics are really good too...and frame rate is like butter! :) Their version of "War" is a lil strange...instead of being able to control any control point...there is only 1 control point in play at a time...I guess just in case it's a small game maybe, but it's good. Level design wise, I agree with you Grim...the Roundhouse level is defiantly the best. The other two don't really have the best flow to them. All in all it was a pretty good first experience, but no COD4!
dronkmunk's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2008 10:08
dronkmunk
DO WANT...oh wait...DO HAVE!!
Bionix_01's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2008 10:53
Bionix_01
why compare it to domination when u can just compare it to what it is headquarters maybe log in one hour on COD4 trying out some of the game modes.
ZenHK's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2008 11:12
ZenHK
I'm not at all convinced by this game.
Call it a throw back from the EPIC disappointment of CoD3 [post CoD2 - which i adored] i think the tried and tested 'one amazing game, one crap game' formula works for me. Balls to this COD. I'll just gear myself up for the next infinity outing.
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