The most common argument you ever see during a debate about in-game advertising is one I tend to agree with myself: It's okay so long as the adverts don't negatively impact the gameplay. So, what do we say about WipEout HD, a game that was recently updated to include adverts which double the loading times?
The latest patch now forces players to watch a commercial before each race, courtesy of the fine marketing folks at Double Fusion. Before the update, races took eight seconds to load. Now they take sixteen. This is more than an in-game billboard or Solid Snake carrying an iPod in his pocket. This is a game basically being screwed with in order to push commercials over gameplay.
I really don't care for that at all.
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This is a fucking joke right? Seriously? This just fucking boggles my mind.
... RIGHT??
However, I still think it's much ado about nothing. They are a couple of seconds long and look to provide something interesting to watch during a loading screen.
Plus it means Studio Liverpool can afford to make more expansion packs like the fucking sweet FURY DLC!
Every other word that I commonly use, like "baffling" or "ridiculous" or "f*cking retarded" don't even begin to scratch the surface of how horrible this idea is.
Then again, I don't really play Wipeout HD.
...wait what? It isn't free?
....
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I have this game to thank for my decent LSAT score, so I'll defend it to the death.
Game companies, lemme break it down for you.
Bridge+Gasoline+Match = In game ads that don't belong.
Though I guess the next ratchet and clank game will have sponsorship by Craftsman.
Or I can expect Kratos to be using Trojan condoms when he bones the ladies.
I mean... if now I'm watching their fucking ads I want my money back. Take the shitty fucking game back with you...
you're avatar, my god. what a crazy scene from Requiem.
This? This is complete bullshit.
When you pay for a game, you do not deserve to see an ad... not even one ad in the actual game. At the start like a DVD? MAYBE. In the game? NO. Completely ridiculous. I hope consumer response is tough, fast and clear.
but it doesn't affect gameplay so I ignore it like every other loading screen.
But fuck that shit now!
Also, they already have an ad channel on the Wii. It's called the Nintendo channel.
Regardless, why would they screw with such an awesome game?
The new content is amazing though, and if you're not gonna DL it cuz of this you're missing out, big time.
I was going to buy it for summer deal of whatever but first Sony won't even let me add my credit card to my account and now this...
Well too bad but I won't buy it.
well that kinda does'nt help, theres a bit of a difference in the time between the first time you load a road and the second and third times (ive damn near jumped right into a match) you do it, Ive noticed that ad only seems to pop up during that first load and Ive never been hit during subsequent loads ( I tested this while going for the liverly liberation trophy, as I was curious myself), but the moment I load another track that load and ad pops up again.
I just think people never paid attention to that load until now that the ad poped up.but I wished in that video he had showed how many times he picked that event.
I'll test it again myself when I get the free time but until then I gotta beleive what my watch told me.
But I'm sure Jim's going to rush in and disparage the entire Wipeout series by giving Fury a 3 or 4 out of ten, as though it's representative of how all of the Destructoid community views Wipeout. Where were you guys when Wipeout HD was released? I don't remember ads in that, and personally I enjoyed it more than the previous Gran Turismo games.
Wipeout is an underrated series. You should've praised it before they had to resort to ads to make up for the lack of sales.
:-( dick move.
"You should've praised it before they had to resort to ads to make up for the lack of sales."
Yeah, it's OUR fault the ads are there.. I shouldn't have coded that in there, and designed all the ads. MY BAD, HOMIE.
Is there literally something wrong with you? Like mentally or otherwise? Just trying to justify in my mind why you would type such an idiotic statement. Maybe its just really subtle sarcasm and it went over my head? <reads it again> Nope, you're retarded.
Thank God I decided to unlock everything in Wipout HD first before getting this, now I won't have to waste my money.
This better not be a trend, or I'll just write off PSN entirely.
If by "haven't played the game" you assume "have no experience with the series", then yeah, I agree. If you're trying to take a moral high-ground ala Waquan: STFU.
Many of us have Wipeout on the backburner simply BECAUSE we've played the older incarnations, know what to expect, and are fully willing to put down the money when the newer, more interesting shinies have become less shiny (see also: Fat Princess) and we have some extra cash and a free weekend. We've come to expect the Wipeout series not to have adverts before gameplay, and this is cheapening the experience for extra revenue on a game that has no distribution costs like a boxed game... so why rush the income? Wipeout HD and expansion pack will at least break even, even without ads.. why add ads and piss off the core that know it's already a good series?
Any game that does not receive accolades from this site - and any other site reporting/reviewing games - will get get ads popping up in their loading screens.
I think the SDF just hit new levels of retardis.
don't get me wrong this sucks true , but your gonna write off one of the best games created and one of the better expansion packs made because of THAT, Don't be f*cking stupid.
last time I checked people pay out their ass for x box live and get hit with ads religiously, do you see me getting rid of my 360 because of that, no because THAT WOULD BE F*CKING RETARDED.
express your distaste for it but truth be told if you wanted this kind of thing to stop the time for action was long ago, don't bitch now because its far too late for it to matter, and don't dismiss a dev who sweated blood to actually give us a good expansion instead of a cheap cash in because of a decision his boss probably made.
the only thing that does is discourage hard working devs and make you just as much of an idiot as the guy who put in adds in the first place. this IS a stupid decision BUT it should have no affect on your decision to purchase this game or expansion.
Seriously I expected alot more from you guys.
That being said I am hardly paying attention during load screens anyways and I didn't notice the load times being any longer. The whole point I made is that if this "ad debacle" is the only reason you aren't playing/buying this game when you would've otherwise then you're missing out. Sure this may set a bad precedent for in game advertising but the game experience itself is still intact.
Also I am not "trying to take a moral high-ground", especially seeing as how condemning this corporate-action seems to be a clearer moral high-ground stance anyways. I really just don't care cause I still have fun with the game.
The Wipeout franchise has been avoided by the masses for a while now, and you're wondering why they (the developers) are including ads to make up for their losses? I agree that the move is entirely pointless and will ultimately damage them, but that's not the point. The ship's already sinking, and this is their indication of that.
I'll blame whoever the hell I want on this matter. And yes, I blame everyone who's decided not to support this series because it's stuff everyone's seen before...you know, like Megaman, just like in your avatar, that hasn't changed a damn bit since its first incarnation on the NES and little dipshits like you line up to chew on that shit every time a new title is released but ABSOLUTELY refuse to open your minds to other franchises that didn't start out on a Nintendo system (that you may actually find more enjoyable). I can think of HUNDREDS and HUNDREDS of franchises from Gran Turismo to Forza that millions upon millions of people are willing to pay an arm and a leg for when the latest version hits the store---and, what does that draw usually come down to? I think that goes without saying, really.
It's disgusting. On the other hand, we have Wipeout HD, which offers as much content as a retail game but at a cheaper price (at least 30 hours of gameplay for the singleplayer alone) and all of you dipshits would rather pay $20-30 for the next Megaman Anniversary collection full of games you've already beaten from the NES up? Speaking of stupid...
By the way, Fat Princess doesn't offer anywhere near the amount of content you get with Wipeout HD, let alone Fury. That's not to say it's a bad game, but it doesn't offer a whole lot in terms of content, especially if you’re only in the position to download it and not try it out online.
Also, just because something has a different name doesn't mean it hasn't been done a hundred fucking times before under different titles.
That being said you cited Megaman as not changing/evolving much, I may be wrong but hasn't Wipeout retained relatively the same mechanics/gameplay throughout it's many iterations as well?
Do you really need to state that people have different preferences? Are you this blog's Captain Obvious?
If the people in this forum weren't interested in Wipeout they wouldn't be in an uproar about it. The main complaint I've read on this very blog's been that Wipeout hasn't changed. I gave examples of series people choose to support financially that haven't changed much. Why support these and not others? Why single out Wipeout?
It's not my problem hyperbole's over your head. I'd suggest staying away from blogs/forums in general to avoid the migraines that surely result from your imbecility.
I finally caved and bought the game during the summer sale and it's completely rock sauce.
Sucks that the ads are there, but I still encourage everyone to at least give the demo a try. Both the game and expansion have garnered great reviews from pretty much everyone (88% and 91% respectively on gamerankings) so anyone with any interest at all may be pleasantly surprised.
Stupid ads aside, I still recommend it.
I've got all the singleplayer trophies to earn first ;)
I hope you're joking. If you would let such a silly thing deter you from paying such an awesome game you are a fucking fool!
@Timmeh
No one is defending it, no doubt it is kinda wrong, it's just fucking stupid to moan about it.
WiEpout HD is £12.99, the Fury expansion is £7.99, so for £20 you get more game then you get for £40!!!
It's a fucking awesome game as well....
Jim Sterling is making mountain out of molehills and I really wish he would slump off his high horse long enough to ask him self... 'Why the fuck does it matter when the game's so good?!'