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Will MGS4 for the PS3 be delayed? photo

Look I drink...

But I am smart enough to know what the difference between the Easter bunny and Metal Gear Solid 4 on the Playstation 3 is; the Easter bunny actually came this year.

The buzz going around the video game watercooler is that MGS4 has been pushed back to March 1st, 2008. To make this clear, this means a marquee PS3 game, that was intended to come out at launch in Spring of 2006 (didn't happen either) will be pushed back almost two full years. 

To be fair, Sony (or Konami) has yet to reply with an official statement which is (and "I am guessing of course,") because they are studying historical battles between the Decepticons and the Ewoks.

This was my reason, my push, my desire to finally buy a PS3, and it was squashed. Realistically, you shouldn't get your hopes up that the March 1st date is solid, but I can say it seems to me that a spring window is becoming far more likely.

Anyone up for a game of Duke Nukem Forever while we wait?

[Thanks cjpmedic]


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ArrestedDeveloper's Avatar
ArrestedDeveloper at 05/12/2007 18:05
Metal Gear? Shadow Moses?
Ambulance-Y's Avatar
Ambulance-Y at 05/12/2007 18:05
lol at your guess of why it is being pushed back.

and as for the duke nukem forever, thats how long we have to wait for it. it is predicted the end of the world is 12-21-2012 and i think i read the other day the release date for duke nukem forever is 12-22-2012
BlackDove's Avatar
BlackDove at 05/12/2007 18:09
A Hind D?
Ambulance-Y's Avatar
Ambulance-Y at 05/12/2007 18:10
doesn't this also mean that wii will have snake before ps3? the fanboys wet dream will come true the day smash brothers comes out, seeing mario kick snakes ass. this will lead to a spike in sales for fruit of the loom and hanes.
michiyoyoshiku's Avatar
michiyoyoshiku at 05/12/2007 18:23
I betcha that Hack Kojima buckled and is working on a 360 version that will be unveiled at E3.

brad drac's Avatar
brad drac at 05/12/2007 18:23
Meh. The only game that would make the ps3 must-have for me hasn't even been announced yet. If only fumito ueda didn't work for sony first-party...
Aaron Linde's Avatar
Aaron Linde at 05/12/2007 18:25
Meryl!?
TheStripe's Avatar
TheStripe at 05/12/2007 18:52
Man, I was gonna get SSBB anyway, but . . . it almost feels wrong for Snake's next-gen debute on a nintendo console (or a microsoft one, for that matter). This was supposed to be the reason to find a way to go without entertainment (or food) for a month or so to get a PS3. I need a new DVD player, anyway.
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cjpkiller at 05/12/2007 18:56
michi...
E3 is dead... it is not what it was, not even close, and it never will be again. wait for something like TGS, E for all, or hell even PAX.
yay... my news tip made front page
MF GRIMM's Avatar
MF GRIMM at 05/12/2007 18:59
i don't care if you drink or not!
Jordan Grim Devore's Avatar
Jordan Grim Devore at 05/12/2007 19:04
OMG hotness I wanna bang you!
Nick Chester's Avatar
Nick Chester at 05/12/2007 19:05
To be fair, I don't think Konami ever put a release date on this game to begin with. But let's be reasonable -- did anyone actually believe this game was coming out this year on any platform?
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Faith at 05/12/2007 19:14
This is a bad move by Sony. Without another great game lined up in the next 6 months, the system will remain on the waiting list for most gamers
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Joseph Leray at 05/12/2007 19:20
Actually, I'm glad its being delayed. Maybe when it comes out, it will be actually finished, and good. Unlike the other crap coming out on the PS3. Hell, the whole machine could've used a 6-month delay.
BlackDove's Avatar
BlackDove at 05/12/2007 19:28
As long as Final Fantasy XIII is on time, the system will do just fine.
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phoenixXXreborn at 05/12/2007 19:37
except that FF XIII will most likely be on 360 too.
twesterm's Avatar
twesterm at 05/12/2007 19:43
@Faith
"This is a bad move by Sony. Without another great game lined up in the next 6 months, the system will remain on the waiting list for most gamers"
Sony bashing is fun but please save it for when they deserve. Sony isn't going to delay MGS4, Konami is. Besides, games get delayed all the time (I'm looking at you Nintendo), just it isn't always one that a console depends on.

@BlackDove
[i]"As long as Final Fantasy XIII is on time, the system will do just fine."
Look at the Gamecube. It had many of the best games of the last gen on it and the console still didn't do great. One game cannot save a failing system. Not saying the PS3 is or isn't failing, but while FFXIII will definately boost sales, it will not boost sales a significant amount.
phoenixXXreborn's Avatar
phoenixXXreborn at 05/12/2007 19:46
Halo 2 got delayed forever and it still sold like hotcakes. MGS4 getting delayed isn't doom for PS3, but it sure isn't helping.
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Ambulance-Y at 05/12/2007 19:51
it's probaly good for sony cuz maybe by then it'll get like a 50 dollar or so price cut so more people will have bought them. though i think they need to up the price cut from the usual 50 bucks to 100, even after you buy the system and a game it's still more than what the system costs now.
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ghnvt at 05/12/2007 19:53
Figures...
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brad drac at 05/12/2007 19:58
-> Ambulance-Y: How is cutting the price of a console they're already making a several hundred dollar loss for each unit on a good thing for sony, exactly? The ps3 is looking more and more like the gamecube of this generation. Only the gamecube never cost 600 dollars...
Necros's Avatar
Necros at 05/12/2007 20:06
I'm fine with waiting; I'd rather a game be good than be rushed out early. Then again, I also don't own a PS3 and won't be buying one for at least 2 more years when it becomes reasonably affordable, so I guess I can afford to wait.

Still, I'm not minding the wait for Super Mario Galaxy either, as long as Miyamoto is supposedly perfecting it. I know that he normally likes to "finish" a game and then add six months of additional development time to tweak and perfect it. More developers should consider doing that.
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Ambulance-Y at 05/12/2007 20:07
@ brad, if no one is buying it and a majority of the reason is price, wouldn't a price cut just mean more people buying the system? and more people buying the system means more companies wanting to make software, more companies making software means more people buying the software and proprietery medium it comes on, also more ps3's means more blu-ray players and people to buy the blu-ray movies, also more ps3s means more people buying accessories like controllers, ps2 mem card adaptors, and other junk. so how would a price cut not make them money?
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0bshaky at 05/12/2007 20:54
Theres a IGN report on this can be done on X360 (not only technically possible but financially feasible as well) and while this will make a fuckload of money for both Konami and M$ (MGS Online on Xbox Live?) Sony definetly must have a team of prostitutes making Kojima Productions maintaining their desicion on making this PS3 exclusive.

Lets not forget that in japan this along other companies were upset at Sony because of their price and inability to have a bigger installed base. But with exclusive deals going the way of the dodo this generation is really anything-goes (Wii outselling Bibles and canned peas?)
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908peruvian at 05/12/2007 21:23
wow!!
JUST WOW!!!

do you know how many people will get rid of their PS3 now?!

this PROMISE sold many PS3's!!
Magesx's Avatar
Magesx at 05/12/2007 21:24
So, they're taking extra time to make the game as good as they can make it.

How is that bad for anybody?
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comradetrotskii at 05/12/2007 21:27
Umm. I never really expected MGS4 until 2008 anyway. The 'delay' is a good thing though. Every PS3 owner will now be able to fold an extra 500 work units before having anything else to do with their system.
Artadius's Avatar
Artadius at 05/12/2007 22:04
OMG, PS3 drought amirite?
king3vbo's Avatar
king3vbo at 05/12/2007 22:20
MGS4 will come out in 08 no doubt. Its gonna be delayed so they can "make it cooler"
TheStripe's Avatar
TheStripe at 05/13/2007 00:26
"Halo 2 got delayed forever and it still sold like hotcakes. MGS4 getting delayed isn't doom for PS3, but it sure isn't helping."

The difference here is that by the time gamers were slavering for Halo 2, the Xbox already had a huge installed base. Now, we have people waiting to buy the console until the game they want hits. When you don't know what that is, and the installed base doesn't grow in anticipation, it's harder and harder and harder to make money on PS3 exclusives. And if there are no exclusives, there won't be "ten years of future-proof gaming" or whatever the latest Sony Talking Head™ promised.
Mxyzptlk's Avatar
Mxyzptlk at 05/13/2007 00:28
lol, Snake is old.
mix's Avatar
mix at 05/13/2007 02:03
Meh I can wait, less bugs is better and Oblivion can help pass the time.

:offtopic I suppose:
Speaking of delaying, anyone get an Elite yet? I over heard some EB fatties discussing how they all ready had one returned as it would grind the crap outa games......
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Im OK at 05/13/2007 02:34
Hmm, so I guess I'll be waiting until at least March 1, 2008 to buy a PS3 then, assuming that this is accurate, of course (and assuming MGS4 isn't announced for the 360 between now and then). I tend to distrust early release dates posted on retail sites until and unless I hear something official from the developers or publishers of the game first.

Hopefully, as others have already said, such a delay will allow Kojima to fully feed his urge for perfectionism, and we won't be shafted with a rushed product.
Namelessted's Avatar
Namelessted at 05/13/2007 04:04
MGS4 isn't really a big title that people seem to think it is. In the hardcore video game world of us people that read internet gaming news blogs, yes, we all look forward to the next MGS (or at least a good portion). But the MGS series isn't a HUGE seller like FF, Dragon Quest, GTA, Madden, Halo, Mario...

But Heavenly Sword is in the same boat. Do they have a release date on that game? It was supposed to come out with the Spring launch. I know a lot of games get delayed, but how many games that were supposed to LAUNCH with the system get delayed two year? Maybe they are delaying cus they decided to do a release on bother PS3 and 360, that is everybody's dream at this point isn't it?
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Karmakin at 05/13/2007 09:33
FFXIII on time?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

OMG that's a good one. Listen. I'm as big of a Square-Enix fan as they come. Really.

They never do ANYTHING on time.

FFXIII, maybe out in Japan in time for the 2008 holiday season. But it wouldn't shock me to see it in 2009.
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skullivan at 05/13/2007 12:26
I never expected MGS4 this year. I guess it could still happen but it ain't likely.

FFXIII will probably hit Spring/Summer '08 in Japan and come out in the US in the Fall which is pretty much the standard release schedule at this point. FF games rarely (never?) come out at the end of the year in Japan and they always save them for the holiday season in the US.

As for FFXIII being "on time", the game has never been given a release date, so it can't really be considered late.
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Tron Knotts at 05/13/2007 13:30
Seems to me that they are delaying the game on purpose, waiting until there are actually enough PS3's in people's homes that the game has a chance in hell of selling what the previous games in the series sold.

If Konomi were smart, they'd take note of the fact that the Wii is now selling about nine times as quickly as the PS3 in Japan (even in the face of huge Wii shortages) and port a version of this game to the Wii with the MGS:Twin Snakes graphics engine.

This wouldn't hurt the sales of the PS3 version. In fact, it might actually help it.

Other than Spiderman 3, there are few head to head comparisons to be made between the PS3 and the Wii graphcis on the same game.

Believe it or not, a lot of casual gamers don't see the big difference between the graphics of PS3 and Wii games. That kind of head to head comparison always drives home which system is "better".

As I recall, Tomb Raider came out on the Saturn first, but looked so much better on the PS1 that it sold far more on that system. It's even considered one of the reasons that the PS1 beat the Saturn, along with Final Fantasy VII and Resident Evil.
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DinnertimeNinja at 05/13/2007 16:09
I don't mean to be rude, but when the hell did they ever even HINT that this game would be out at the launch of the PS3?

I'll answer that for you. NEVARZ!

Give me a break. No one rationally could have expected this game to be out this year and I'm fairly certain that ZERO official announcements have come out to even give a release WINDOW for this game.

Kojima doesn't pull this crap, generally. A game's done when he says it's done. I don't think there's much chance he works under a set deadline.

Now, if you want to get mad at Sony for the SCEA games that were slated to come out in "2007" but will likely miss that date, by all means go ahead. But don't get your panties in a bunch over something you should have known anyway.


One final note: If any or several of the big first party Nintendo games that are slated for a "2007" release (SSB:M, Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime 3, etc.) get pushed back to next year, will any of you be surprised?

If the answer's "yes," you're an idiot. This is how the game industry works. The "next gen" was never going to be any different.
parrothead's Avatar
parrothead at 05/13/2007 17:42
I was actually waiting for this game to come out before I bought a PS3. Looks like I have more time to save up now!
Tino's Avatar
Tino at 05/14/2007 03:53
While the PS3 version is delayed the 360 version will be releasing right on time!
cbebop007's Avatar
cbebop007 at 05/14/2007 11:26
Obviously.
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