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I have one question -- how could a war trivialize video games as much as video games trivialize themselves? Contemplate that one for a while, why dontcha.
Like Katamari Damacy cheapens the plight out otherworldly princes that roll giant sticky balls around.
I'm not exactly sure what the 'plight of soldiers' is. Consider the fact that I myself am a soldier. Many of the infantry people in my unit love what they do. Also, the fact that a huge portion of the soldier population play video games.
Any time a soldier can come back from a hard day of wearing body armor and carrying around a weapon and play a war game, I'd consider that a wholehearted endorsement of the genre.
Any time a soldier can come back from a hard day of wearing body armor and carrying around a weapon and play a war game, I'd consider that a wholehearted endorsement of the genre.
Did River City Ransom cheapen the plight of street gangs worldwide?
Actually, you can learn lots of history, depending on the game. I used to spend a lot of time in the Civilopedia and the Age of Empires in game database.
Actually, you can learn lots of history, depending on the game. I used to spend a lot of time in the Civilopedia and the Age of Empires in game database.
It's not like most soldiers do what they do so people will recognize them as national heroes. I give the "videogames cheapen war" argument a respectable four yawns out of five.
One would hope that video games would eventually REPLACE war, but I sadly can't hold my breath on that.
Call of Duty doesn't treat the subject with disrespect, so I don't see why people would get upset.
Call of Duty doesn't treat the subject with disrespect, so I don't see why people would get upset.
Did Crysis cheapen the plight of North Korean soldiers?
Did Bioshock cheapen the plight of Splicers?
Did Psychonauts cheapen the plight of super powered secret agents?
Did Halo cheapen the plight of super soldiers with shiny faces?
Did Bioshock cheapen the plight of Splicers?
Did Psychonauts cheapen the plight of super powered secret agents?
Did Halo cheapen the plight of super soldiers with shiny faces?
On the other hand, according to MOH Airborn, the Nazis had super soldiers that all wore gas masks and utilized miniguns, in addition to huge monolithic DOOM FORTRESS.
Hollah.
Hollah.
It will only make you hate dogs. I thought the storyline was very well done compared to COD1 and COD2. Perhaps the end credits rap song about Infinity Ward was not representative for the current wars/skirmishes though.
"America's Army" is a video game and as a matter of fact, is THE OFFICIAL GAME OF THE U.S. ARMY. Enough said.
I consider the game a tribute to the soliders out there. When I played the demo it kinda hit home that the soliders over in Iraq right now have to watch out for stuff like that on a daily basis. It made me stop and think holy crap what if I was over there now and had to deal with snipers, IEDs and what not. If anyone knows any service men/women either in active duty or not be sure to thank them for the freedoms that we enjoy. Take it from myself, I have a friend who is a navy recruiter, and another who is a ranger, it makes their day when you tell them and are sincere about it.
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do you mean massive online deathmatches to settle territorial disputes? because that would be pretty cool, except for all the racial slurs and whatnot.
do you mean massive online deathmatches to settle territorial disputes? because that would be pretty cool, except for all the racial slurs and whatnot.
If this cheapens war, then every form of fictional entertainment - games, books, movies, TV - that has come before it has also cheapened war and the soldiers. Seriously, it's not like they're making fun of soldiers or war. Good grief.
Oh yeah, first it's about Manhunt 2 being "art" and then it's how war games teach kids valuable history lessons.
I think I need a bigger shovel.
I think I need a bigger shovel.
infinity: Pretty much, but from what I hear dynamite and the Olympics were supposed to end war too, and that didn't work out so well. =/
Still, if we could make video games a worldwide thing ie. not just first-world countries and some others, I think it could be a good replacement for when diplomacy can't solve it. =p
Still, if we could make video games a worldwide thing ie. not just first-world countries and some others, I think it could be a good replacement for when diplomacy can't solve it. =p
The worldwide threat of a Hitler ruled world was ultimately defeated by the heroic efforts of Bionic Commando.
Huh, these games are far more reverential toward soldiers than most things dealing with actual war: the major (pulp) media, i.e, FOX, CNN, etc.; the president and his cronies; most politicians for that matter; the profiteering corporations; etc.
Anyway, I guess you summed that up in your last question there Jim, but I think it's helpful to actually spell it out. Good call.
Anyway, I guess you summed that up in your last question there Jim, but I think it's helpful to actually spell it out. Good call.
I had to login and comment about this since I am a soldier. Or was, for that matter. A purple heart from Iraq and subsequent military retirement will do that.
CoD4 or any other "war game" out there doesn't cheapen what I've done, or what my brothers and sisters are doing out there now. Games != real life, no matter what some crazy soccer moms or sensationalist news reporters think.
When I played the beta, I was actually amazed. The game is remarkably accurate. The scenery is realistic. It looks like actual places my boots stomped across.
If anything, CoD4 is a tribute. And yes, I'm buying the game. Hit me up on live: Pawn45.
CoD4 or any other "war game" out there doesn't cheapen what I've done, or what my brothers and sisters are doing out there now. Games != real life, no matter what some crazy soccer moms or sensationalist news reporters think.
When I played the beta, I was actually amazed. The game is remarkably accurate. The scenery is realistic. It looks like actual places my boots stomped across.
If anything, CoD4 is a tribute. And yes, I'm buying the game. Hit me up on live: Pawn45.
you know what, I'm a soldier, and my Dad is currently over there. I don't think it trivializes it at all. Of course it would piss me off if they got some things way out of proportion or something, or made the soldiers look like dipshits. It's like, does the FIFA series make David Beckham piss him self in anger?
As far as I’m concerned, if we can have soldiers come in here and nullify this question, then it’s not an issue at all.
And to all of you who did comment here, such as Pawn45 and fantomfreq, I’d like to give you all a shout-out and a sincere note of thanks for your service. I’m certainly not up to it, but I’m glad someone is.
And to all of you who did comment here, such as Pawn45 and fantomfreq, I’d like to give you all a shout-out and a sincere note of thanks for your service. I’m certainly not up to it, but I’m glad someone is.
If it cheapens war why does the Army support Americas Army FPS video games with the aim towards recruiting. No it is not cheapening or trivial if it is well done and accurate.
Man I can't wait till this comes in the mail today. I totally can't wait to kill some Marines. I HATE MARINES!
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