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Wii update may be bricking innocent consoles photo

Remember the new firmware update which Nintendo just sent out to do away with all those nasty people who have been running the Homebrew Channel? You know, another one of those feeble attempts to lock something down which the hacking community will have found a workaround to with in a couple of days?

Well, it's already been worked around for those of you who don't mind voiding your warranty, but we all knew that was going to happen. Where the actual news comes in is that there have been reports of the update rendering perfectly normal, unmodified Wii consoles inert.

The issue seems to be occurring during the downloading process. Reports on NeoGAF and Nintendo's technical support forum claim that the download is freezing before completing and then will not reboot. Word is that the changes to one of the programs is causing write errors which prevent the system from starting up.

To their credit, Nintendo has already addressed the issue in a statement on their support forum (who says hackers are the only ones who can work quickly in these situations?). They claim that the issues are predominately occurring on modified consoles but have offered assistance in the form of free repairs to Wii owners who have never -- even unwittingly -- participated in such shenanigans as doing what they wish with the product they spent their money to own.

This is what we refer to as "collateral damage."


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38 comments | showing # 1 to 38

Cheeseraven's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/01/2009 01:18
Cheeseraven
Funny picture, good article.


also i'm one of those nasty people running homebrew :D
PappaDukes's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/01/2009 01:25
PappaDukes
What do you mean I can't play Bully no more!?
GamesAreArt's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/01/2009 01:31
GamesAreArt
Mine is just fine ;)
Aether's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/01/2009 01:33
Aether
Why is it that whenever there is a measure taken against pirates or hackers, the ones who are most affected are usually the bystanders.
pedrovay2003's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/01/2009 01:35
pedrovay2003
I'm running Homebrew, but I also don't like not updating the Wii. Call me crazy, but I like having the most updated stuff. If I had to choose between homebrew and official updates, the updates would win.
bodybreak's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/01/2009 01:42
bodybreak
the balls are inert.
SonicTHP's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/01/2009 01:44
SonicTHP
Hate.

I just want to play my imports in peace.
shinryu108's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/01/2009 01:45
shinryu108
this blind shoot-in-the-crowd attitude towards homebrew is ridiculous. I'm running homebrew for the sole and simple purpose of backing up my Gamecube saves on an SD card, something that the regular Wii data management utility for some reason does not allow. homebrew does not automatically entail piracy. look at the dreamcast, part of the reason it's still relevant today is the homebrew scene.
valhum's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/01/2009 01:51
valhum
haha great pic Xbudz LOL
brainderailment's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/01/2009 02:13
brainderailment
There are many things that wiis can do with homebrew that should be features, such as dvd playback, cmon nintendo.
SenorDoucheoisie's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/01/2009 02:20
SenorDoucheoisie
I'm not running Homebrew (...yet), but I had a recent scare with my Wii, so I'm not risking it anymore. SCREW DIS
pedrovay2003's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/01/2009 02:54
pedrovay2003
Well, I updated the Wii to 4.2U, and the Homebrew Channel still works for me... Thank God.
Cadtalfryn's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/01/2009 04:07
Cadtalfryn
I haven't uploaded the homebrew channel yet, but I don't think I'll be using my Wii online any time soon.
Subenu's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/01/2009 04:16
Subenu
Did the update right now and everything is fine!
jorge's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/01/2009 04:43
jorge
4.2 won't affect the Homebrew Channel if you update the HBC before updating your Wii.

If I was one of the unlucky ones that got bricked, I know I'd be demanding some free Wii points in addition to free repairs.
Mista Smegheneghan's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/01/2009 04:45
Mista Smegheneghan
I'm thinking the people who are innocent are just lying about their homebrew activities. A metric crap-ton of people I know in the interblags have said theirs works, and they haven't been running their homebrew, just the odd few who do run homebrew have been bricked.
Springsteen's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/01/2009 05:29
Springsteen
"Mr. Potatamoto... why isn't it moving? Why?" =[

Seriously, though, Nintendo is usually good at this stuff. Anyone who got F'd in the A with the update will probably see a quick response as they contact Nintendo. Reliability and consumer service are among the few hardware advantages they have now. ZING! AT EVERY CONSOLE!

On the other hand, they shoul give up. They won't stop anyone from hacking their Wiis. It's just turning out to be a moronic expense of resources.
atastysammich's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/01/2009 05:45
atastysammich
Oh sweet, the Wii can do Optic Blasts now?
lewness's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/01/2009 07:04
lewness
Wii wins the console wars. Mostly because of its Wii Optical Disc Blast or something.
trsspidey's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/01/2009 07:36
trsspidey
Well..... nice to see nintendo is putting their money to good use instead of wasting it on localizing great games for the US. Or purchasing great third parties or acquiring new second parties. Wouldn't want that now would wii?
ejamer's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/01/2009 08:07
ejamer
There has been a lot of bullshit talk about this... but do you have any numbers to back it up or is this article just reporting a misleading rumor?

Has anyone not running homebrew had their Wii brick, or even know anyone else not running homebrew with a bricked Wii? So far, everyone I know has updated without problems and I've only seen complaints online from people who *might* have had legit Wii consoles that were bricked. (Of course, there is no way for me to verify they weren't running homebrew, but you have to assume they are telling the truth.)

Considering the size of the Wii install base, it seems like the issue is rather exaggerated...
ejamer's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/01/2009 08:09
ejamer
**supposed to say: "I've only seen complaints online from TWO people..."
Everyday Legend's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/01/2009 08:26
Everyday Legend
@ atastysammich

JUST WHAT I THOUGHT.
::MEGA OPTIC BLAAAAST! KO!::

I, did it!
Hiltz's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/01/2009 08:32
Hiltz
I've heard a lot of good things about Nintendo's tech support. Fortunately, I've never had a reason to need to call them up.

My Wii is fine by the way.
Spectreman's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/01/2009 08:34
Spectreman
* Really bad move from Nintendo.
Tha Meat's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/01/2009 10:10
Tha Meat
@Spectreman

An unhacked Wii can be repaired, a "tampered" Wii wont because of breach of warranty. How is this a bad move?

On another note...can someone clarify why one would waste their time hacking a Wii?
Vanor's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/01/2009 10:52
Vanor
@The Meat: Wii games are region-coded, so even if you imported games, you couldn't play them on the console (unlike the PSP and DS/Lite which are not region-coded). There have been several games that have been released in Japan (and elsewhere) for the system that have never been released outside of their native lands (like Fatal Frame 4 for instance), so the only way to play them would be to hack your Wii.

This kinda thing is turning me off to gaming. I hate firmware updates. I hate region-coding. There have been games I've imported for my DS and PSP that I wanted to play really badly because they never got translated over here. On those two systems I at least have the option of importing those games and playing them without any hassle even if I can't understand the native tongue.

I bought a router for my Wii for updates, but then it turns out that I got the magical router that doesn't work for the Wii. I could just hook it up directly to the internet, but no, you have to buy an ethernet adapter separately. Beh. Many times I'd get a new game, take it home, boot it up..."System Update". I have to then drag the damn thing up to my friend's house, use his wireless (cuz he router actually works), and update it that way.

Ya know what? I bought Devil Summoner 2 a few months ago, took it home, popped the damn game into my PS2, and turned on the power, and in less than a minute I was playing the game I bought. No firmware updates, no bullshit. I only tolerate the firmware nonsense on my PSP since my router which didn't work for my Wii, does work for my PSP. And the DS has none of that firmware garbage.

Are these game companies not wanting me to buy their stuff? Because if I wanted to restlessly tap my foot for firmware updates and other such time-consuming needlessly-convoluted bullshit, I'd be playing PC games, not console games. All I want to do is turn the damn console on, and bam, I'm playing my game. What was so bad about that straightforward simplicity that the game industry had to ruin it? I don't want a media center, and I don't my console to be more like a fucking computer. I *got a computer already*!

Handhelds were the last bastion of unfettered old-school console gaming without all the ancillary bells and whistles and contrived bullshit. But now even those are going down this stupid route of trying to be more than what they are (and should be). If this is the future of gaming, then I want no part of it. I'll spend my money on some other form of entertainment that doesn't piss me off.
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/01/2009 11:06
Holyetheline
dude this is so lame. fk nintendo.
Poe's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/01/2009 11:13
Poe
@ Vanor:
Well put. I can definitely do without Wii firmware updates that take my console around a half hour to download and do essentially nothing.
In regards to Nintendo trying to weed out hackers, what a massive f*cking waste of time. Nintendo has already established a penalty for hacking; You hack your Wii, you void your warranty. What I see Nintendo doing here is essentially punishing Wii hackers for using their piece of technology in ways Nintendo hasn't thought of or hasn't bothered to implement. What does Nintendo think it is gaining by squashing this stuff?
VampireChrist's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/01/2009 11:39
VampireChrist
@The Meat: Makes a lovely media player that uses like zero energy, generates almost no heat and is virtually silent. well, atleast compared to using my 360 for media playback
Electrium's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/01/2009 11:41
Electrium
@ Holyethelien / Spectreman

Wow, absolutely ridiculous reactions. Did you read the article?
1) If you're a pirate, the update has a work-around. Good news?
2) If your system is broken, you can get it fixed for free. Good news?
3) If it's not broken, why should you give a shit?

I don't get where people get this idea that Nintendo/Sony/MS are out to get you. Do you honestly think someone who loves video games so much that they pursue them as a career would think "Oh, yeah, let's brick a bunch of Wiis in this new update, that'd be fuckin great!"...? NO, there isn't anybody in the industry who would think of such a thing. Except Kotick. But Activision isn't a hardware developer so it's moot.

tl;dr: Chill the hell out.

...I think I need to chill out too though, wow. *deep breath*
Genius's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/01/2009 12:08
Genius
Good thing I haven't turned on my Wii since March!
Chack's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/01/2009 15:45
Chack
Homebrew is great, why block it? Because of piracy? I'm a Nintendo fan and I'd never do that to you, Ninty.
Operative20's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/01/2009 20:00
Operative20
Ugh, I'm worried that I'll be one of the people to brick their wiis. I haven't turned it on since about a week ago and now I am resisting downloading it until I know it's safe. I've had my wii since U.S. launch day and I don't plan on it being broken anytime soon.
pedrovay2003's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/01/2009 23:39
pedrovay2003
@Chack

The problem is that there's a handful of people out there who disagree with your (and my own) sentiments, and they'd pirate games in an instant. Look at the PSP homebrew world -- My God.
Orionsaint's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/02/2009 22:18
Orionsaint
Fuck you Nintendo. Maybe if you weren't so naive and living in the stone age, with your simple consoles. That lack the needed protection from hackers. You wouldn't be in this mess. You wanna create simple crap and charge us for games we originally paid for in our youth and make millions. Well, now you're gonna have to put up with hackers.
snoogans775's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/26/2009 19:37
snoogans775

total test
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