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I expected less than 32. Why jack up the price for the kids and casuals who don't need it. With SD and external HDD support I don't think there's anything to complain about.
Not feeling it so far.
And get this:
Nintendo Network Premium is basically PlayStation+, and you get 2 years with the "Premium" system.
Also, the AC and HDMI thing is included in both SKUs, not just the Premium.
And that controller is pretty expensive, apparently. Who knew?
And get this:
Nintendo Network Premium is basically PlayStation+, and you get 2 years with the "Premium" system.
Also, the AC and HDMI thing is included in both SKUs, not just the Premium.
And that controller is pretty expensive, apparently. Who knew?
I'm sure the US price will be less than its exchange rated value, but does that mean $300? Pricier than I expected.
Derp, flash drives. At least their online model is more like PS+ and not XBL.
Derp, flash drives. At least their online model is more like PS+ and not XBL.
@Arttemis
Wired.com is speculating they will translate to $250 and $300, respectively.
Guess everyone was right!
Wired.com is speculating they will translate to $250 and $300, respectively.
Guess everyone was right!
Hahahaha, I knew the people saying 250 where completely insane.
Premium service huh? Should be interesting to see how Nintendo handles something like that, given their terrible online service on the 3DS, not very well would be my guess.
32 gigs? That is laughable, my mother's 3 year old acer netbook has more capacity than that.
Should certainly be an interesting couple of hours, looking forward to stealth's rambling to.
Premium service huh? Should be interesting to see how Nintendo handles something like that, given their terrible online service on the 3DS, not very well would be my guess.
32 gigs? That is laughable, my mother's 3 year old acer netbook has more capacity than that.
Should certainly be an interesting couple of hours, looking forward to stealth's rambling to.
You guys do realize that it's a 8gb and 32gb ***SSD*** and not an HDD, right? Meaning it's flash memory. Far superior read/write speeds and normal HDDs?
Here's the Wired article, for anyone interested.
Some key points:
2 Gigs of RAM, but 1 is dedicated to the system, game cache, etc.
Disk are 25GB
Still scratching my head over the whole * and 32 GB internal storage thing. No word if you can upgrade.
Some key points:
2 Gigs of RAM, but 1 is dedicated to the system, game cache, etc.
Disk are 25GB
Still scratching my head over the whole * and 32 GB internal storage thing. No word if you can upgrade.
Wait for the American conference for the U.S. prices. Nintendo never uses direct yen to dollar conversions (3DS for example).
@CurtDogg: No they don't realize it. They are people of the console crowd and they don't have a clue that there is a revolutionary new technology available for YEARS that replaces hard drives because it process data faster,uses less electricity power to operate,can withstand more extreme weather conditions,and is more reliable.
They live in the past,and they are so ignorant they believe Nintendo is living in the past.
They live in the past,and they are so ignorant they believe Nintendo is living in the past.
@Curtdogg and Starvos
But SDD's also have a lower write limit. Other than that, yeah.
Also, it allows for external hard-drives.
But SDD's also have a lower write limit. Other than that, yeah.
Also, it allows for external hard-drives.
I'm sure the 32GB is flash memory, not an HDD.
And apparently the premium service is a bonus for people who get the premium system only.
Obviously, that's Japan, we'll see how EU and NA are, and knowing how Reggie works, we'll get screwed over somehow over everything.
And apparently the premium service is a bonus for people who get the premium system only.
Obviously, that's Japan, we'll see how EU and NA are, and knowing how Reggie works, we'll get screwed over somehow over everything.
@El Cornado: Nintendo previously stated that you can buy any standard external hard drive from a computer hardware shop and connect it to the WiiU. You want 2 terrabytes ? Go get it,it depends on your choice and how much you want to spend.
Oh boy, here we go again !
Everyone thinking these Yen to Dollar conversions will show the real price in the US is stupid as shit !
I always goes like this:
30.000 Yen => around 300 $
25.000 Yen => around 250 $
It is beyond me that after all these years nobody has understood that.
Examples:
Vita 3G price 29.990 Yen => 300 Dollars
Via Wifi 24.000=> 250 $
3DS 25.000 => 250 $
Idiots !
Everyone thinking these Yen to Dollar conversions will show the real price in the US is stupid as shit !
I always goes like this:
30.000 Yen => around 300 $
25.000 Yen => around 250 $
It is beyond me that after all these years nobody has understood that.
Examples:
Vita 3G price 29.990 Yen => 300 Dollars
Via Wifi 24.000=> 250 $
3DS 25.000 => 250 $
Idiots !
@Kyousuke Nanbu
"Yet its still 32 gigs. That's insanely low."
...for what? Downloadable games? DLC? Game Saves?
You're acting like you will need to install every game like on the PS3 or PC.
Besides, external HDD and SDXC Cards, where digital versions of games will and should probably go. Remember those?
"Yet its still 32 gigs. That's insanely low."
...for what? Downloadable games? DLC? Game Saves?
You're acting like you will need to install every game like on the PS3 or PC.
Besides, external HDD and SDXC Cards, where digital versions of games will and should probably go. Remember those?
@Curt, Stravos - I don't see any indication that this is a high performing, 250+ MB/s SSD and not a crappy 10 MB/s flash drive. Where are you getting that info?
People, nobody cares if the WiiU allows external hard drives, we won't be happy unless it's an Xbox that we can play Mario games on.
@REWQ
"But SDD's also have a lower write limit."
The effective life of an SSD is typically the same as an HDD.
...longer if you don't constantly delete/overwrite huge chunks of data.
"But SDD's also have a lower write limit."
The effective life of an SSD is typically the same as an HDD.
...longer if you don't constantly delete/overwrite huge chunks of data.
Oh and for the people complaining about only 32 gb: You can use your own hard drive, Nintendo doesn´t force some stupid proprietary bullshit on you (like Sony and Microsoft).
Pretty fucking dumb headline Hamza.
You know for a fact that prices of consoles in yen are NEVER A STRAIGHT CONVERSION TO DOLLARS.
I expect this sort of shameless headline grabbing from Kotaku.
You know for a fact that prices of consoles in yen are NEVER A STRAIGHT CONVERSION TO DOLLARS.
I expect this sort of shameless headline grabbing from Kotaku.
My favorite part is that Nintendo Land is a full priced game. Who are they kidding?
I'm waiting for the actual US price announcement before bothering with that. Conversion rates are never reliable for that sort of thing. I do hope it's $250.
And a little unclear on the basic version. Does it come with the gamepad? (It has to, right?) Power adapters?
It also seems like you need to grab your wii's sensor bar and remote if you want backwards compatibility. Not the worst.
I'm waiting for the actual US price announcement before bothering with that. Conversion rates are never reliable for that sort of thing. I do hope it's $250.
And a little unclear on the basic version. Does it come with the gamepad? (It has to, right?) Power adapters?
It also seems like you need to grab your wii's sensor bar and remote if you want backwards compatibility. Not the worst.
This pricepoint is like Gandalf standing between my wallet and the store screaming you shall not pass!
@Arttemis
I'm pretty sure it will use at least a SATA II controller.
Anything older/worse would make it more expensive (SATA controllers are cheap).
The better question is how many NAND chips (and memory controllers) they use. Still, we're talking of at LEAST 175MB/s here.
I'm pretty sure it will use at least a SATA II controller.
Anything older/worse would make it more expensive (SATA controllers are cheap).
The better question is how many NAND chips (and memory controllers) they use. Still, we're talking of at LEAST 175MB/s here.
@Arttemis: Here's a tip: Both USB thumbsticks and SSDs use flash memory technology. Yet your average USB thumbstick is much slower than a standard HDD because its using USB transfer protocol which limits the amount of data that can be transferred. USB is a protocol to connect external to internal devices though,from what I know it is never used to connect an internal piece of hardware to another internal piece of hardware. If Nintendo uses the modern computer SATA3 standard,or even the old by now SATA2 standard with a flash drive,their memory storage is already faster than any SATA2 HDD. Maybe not by a huge margin like a state of the art 500$ OCZ drive,but still better than the average HDD.
Meh. I wasn't going to get it at launch anyway. Let me know when Smash 4 comes out, and then I'll THINK about buying it.
@MasterBalls
It is in Japan, like the headline says.
The same thing happened with the Vita and everyone saying "It's $350!".
It is in Japan, like the headline says.
The same thing happened with the Vita and everyone saying "It's $350!".
@Stavros StevieGreek Dimou
Most USB Thumb Drive manufacturers go cheap on the memory controller chips on the drives.
You'r average 32GB Flash Drive has a single memory controller and will obviously have a much lower read/write speed than a 128GB SSD with four.
Most USB Thumb Drive manufacturers go cheap on the memory controller chips on the drives.
You'r average 32GB Flash Drive has a single memory controller and will obviously have a much lower read/write speed than a 128GB SSD with four.
Lol. Yeah. I'm looking forward to at least 50 more comments from people jumping to conclusions/not knowing what they're talking about.
Also the Nintendo 6 will retail under $300 in the states.
Also the Nintendo 6 will retail under $300 in the states.
Fucks given: Hmm maybe like three quarters of a fuck. Kinda pricey, and being in Australia, it will no doubt be at least $100 more than whatever the US price turns out to be
facepalm @ Nintendo haters. Nintendo never used direct conversion so the prices for US/EU will be:
250 $/euros and 300$/euros for systems.
250 $/euros and 300$/euros for systems.
@Conrado, mostly Stavros - I'm more than familiar with the concepts of and hardware behind SSDs and the nature of flash memory. I've been using a Vertex 2 (270+ MB/s read) for two years, and it cost 20% of $500 even back then
My point, though, was I don't see any evidence saying this isn't just an SD card slapped inside the console, similar to the 4GB 360 Arcade units.
My point, though, was I don't see any evidence saying this isn't just an SD card slapped inside the console, similar to the 4GB 360 Arcade units.
Considering I'm still using a 20GB hard drive in my 360 and have a 40GB PS3 I don't think that 32GB is particularly low. For save games, profiles, updates and a few demos once in a while that's fine. Hopefully the rumour about being allowed to use off the shelf external hard drives will be true then everyone else that needs the space will be happy too!
Seems like this will be my next fun station if there's going to be something more than just Zombie U for my taste.
Still, seeing that 32 gigs of flash memory makes me smile and think of all the whiny dimwits who have been too ignorant to think there won't be more space to utilize.
32 gigs is more than enough for saves, updates and puny Virtual Console stuff while one is being able to put all the downloadable GC games, movies and other big stuff on any USB HDD.
Still, seeing that 32 gigs of flash memory makes me smile and think of all the whiny dimwits who have been too ignorant to think there won't be more space to utilize.
32 gigs is more than enough for saves, updates and puny Virtual Console stuff while one is being able to put all the downloadable GC games, movies and other big stuff on any USB HDD.
Damn haters. Not only hating on the news, but hate shooting the messenger, as well. Damn.
Fuck the naysayers.
Fuck the naysayers.
Flash does not automatically equal fast. Sorry to burst that bubble, but there's a reason you can get cheap flash storage and why SSD's are expensive (SPOILER: Because no-one would use them in a PC if they weren't faster).
Christ almighty at these comments. I love Nintendo games, but you people are putting me off the system just in case I become one of you.
The heading says in Japan. IN JAPAN. Dollars have been clearly used as its easier for the majority of their readership to understand than shoving a big yen number in the heading.
The heading says in Japan. IN JAPAN. Dollars have been clearly used as its easier for the majority of their readership to understand than shoving a big yen number in the heading.
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