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I'd rather have the option to insert an internal HDD. THat way I have less things cluttering up my gaming shelf. And 1 less cord for the system. I mean hell at this point you'd need 3 AC adapters: wii u, wiipad and external HDD will all have there own power adapters. Makes me think of the genesis and sega cd
I had a feeling this was the case since the internal memory is so low.
If you just buy a WiiU for strictly physical retail games, and not much at all on the digital front then 16GB is actually just fine for that market. If you want more, plug in a 500 gig external HDD and you're good! Sounds reasonable to me.
If you just buy a WiiU for strictly physical retail games, and not much at all on the digital front then 16GB is actually just fine for that market. If you want more, plug in a 500 gig external HDD and you're good! Sounds reasonable to me.
This is a sick idea, congrats on Nintendo for making this move.
I hope the others follow suit on this as fixing my YLOD PS3 so I could back up all of my saves was a BITCH and I hated Sony for making me doo all that BS.
I now know to back that sheez up J.I.C.
I hope the others follow suit on this as fixing my YLOD PS3 so I could back up all of my saves was a BITCH and I hated Sony for making me doo all that BS.
I now know to back that sheez up J.I.C.
"We'll let the consumer buy as much as they want, as cheaply as they want."
Thank you for that. I hated having my only options for 360 be 200 mb or 250 gb. I can't tell you how many people I know that bought the elite version of the 360 only to let it go to waste because they never used more than 5 gigabytes of memory.
Thank you for that. I hated having my only options for 360 be 200 mb or 250 gb. I can't tell you how many people I know that bought the elite version of the 360 only to let it go to waste because they never used more than 5 gigabytes of memory.
im just curious how it will work. do you really think they will let you house all your games on an external drive? that opens itself up to hacking so easily. unless it formats it in some priority mode or links it to your wiiu so it only works for that system/account.
just seems odd to me they would do that. cool idea, but seems fishy to me.
just seems odd to me they would do that. cool idea, but seems fishy to me.
How is it that it's Nintendo, the company that didn't know what a hard drive was until a couple months ago, is the first of the 3 to get it right when it comes to not forcing proprietary bullshit on the consumer?
Guess you can't complain about the feature but I'm with Adrian; why not just build in a space for a HDD? They say they want to give the option of buying games digitally, then equal the RRP of said games' physical form and don't give users the space to neatly put in their own HDD...odd.
This is one thing Nintendo understands & Sony always screws their customers with their proprietary memory!!
My bro just pointed out the meme worthiness of this new Reggie-ism:
"I will love you as a digital consumer"
I'm starting to think he is doing this on purpose now...
"I will love you as a digital consumer"
I'm starting to think he is doing this on purpose now...
My bro just pointed out the meme worthiness of this new Reggie-ism:
"I will love you as a digital consumer"
I'm starting to think he is doing this on purpose now...
"I will love you as a digital consumer"
I'm starting to think he is doing this on purpose now...
They probably couldn't fit a capable memory solution (or drive bay even) into the Wii U and keep the price any lower, so they spun it as "you have the option," aka "do it yourself."
Win win I guess! I don't want an external drive cluttering up my shelf (another power supply as well), nor do I want to concoct an elaborate drive rack solution for this thing, so I'll probably just add 32GB via USB. No USB 3.0 saddens me though, as this is supposed to be new tech.
Win win I guess! I don't want an external drive cluttering up my shelf (another power supply as well), nor do I want to concoct an elaborate drive rack solution for this thing, so I'll probably just add 32GB via USB. No USB 3.0 saddens me though, as this is supposed to be new tech.
Can the wiiU use SDXC cards? I'll be fine with the premium model and slap a 64GB sd card in there. I wana mostly stick with physical media for retail type games
are you people stupid, you can swap in any hdd into the ps3. MS is the only one who made it a priority hdd system, but you can just pry open the case and still insert and hdd you want.
Tell me that all of the physical discs will also be released as digital and I will buy a WiiU as soon as I can get my hands in one.
@fetusmilk
I think these "stupid" people are talking about USB drives, which (I believe) the PS3 won't let you save/download games to.
@news
While I do love the option, I don't like that anyone who wants to use the system to its full capacity (as in, download games/DLC/etc.) is now forced to buy extra stuff in order to do so :(
But hey, at least they're trying! Now we just have to wait and see how their online infrastucture works...
I think these "stupid" people are talking about USB drives, which (I believe) the PS3 won't let you save/download games to.
@news
While I do love the option, I don't like that anyone who wants to use the system to its full capacity (as in, download games/DLC/etc.) is now forced to buy extra stuff in order to do so :(
But hey, at least they're trying! Now we just have to wait and see how their online infrastucture works...
I have a 3TB External HDD that I've never used, I guess this is as a good a use for it that any.
Good game, Ninty.
Good game, Ninty.
I'm still cynical as fuck with regard to the Wii U but this is genuinely very awesome news. An incredible move on Nintendo's part. I'll go so far as to say this might have ripple effects on the console industry as a whole. Fuck proprietary storage.
Taking this into account, anybody who doesn't want nintendoland could find the 300 dollar version as a nice option.
Hmm I can't believe I'm saying this but I think this might have been a good idea. Although having some sort of *internal* dock for a laptop-sized hard drive would have been nice to avoid clutter. Maybe Nintendo should market a USB drive enclosure that sits underneath the Wii U conveniently or something?
While I do applaud them for allowing this when so many other companies are trying to cock block you from doing it, I can't help but think its an odd choice for them to make.
I don't know.. Maybe I'm not thinking straight on it because we don't actually know the solid end-specs of the system, but for the price, with the small internal memory, I can't really feel like we're actually paying for what we're supposed to be buying if they really want us to believe that all the other inner workings are worth as much as they're asking for.
Maybe I just want proof that it'll be powerful enough to justify the cost for an entire generation, or something, I don't know. This is good news here, being able to use external HDD's, I'm just over thinking things
"The reason we did it that way is that the cost of that type of storage memory is plummeting. What we didn't want to do is tie a profit model to something that's gonna rapidly decline over time. We'll let the consumer buy as much as they want, as cheaply as they want."
I will say though, this really does sound -to me- like he's saying:
"Since storage is so cheap, and is declining, we really couldn't figure out a way to ask you to pay out the ass for it like other companies, when we know you'll turn around later and say to us 'Hey, this amount of memory costs far less then your telling us it is for your system -fuck you!'
So we're going to find other ways to skim from your bank accounts that you aren't even thinking about, while giving you the illusion of choice in this one area, just so we can continue to make a steady buck off you without needing a price cut 6 months later."
I don't know.. Maybe I'm not thinking straight on it because we don't actually know the solid end-specs of the system, but for the price, with the small internal memory, I can't really feel like we're actually paying for what we're supposed to be buying if they really want us to believe that all the other inner workings are worth as much as they're asking for.
Maybe I just want proof that it'll be powerful enough to justify the cost for an entire generation, or something, I don't know. This is good news here, being able to use external HDD's, I'm just over thinking things
"The reason we did it that way is that the cost of that type of storage memory is plummeting. What we didn't want to do is tie a profit model to something that's gonna rapidly decline over time. We'll let the consumer buy as much as they want, as cheaply as they want."
I will say though, this really does sound -to me- like he's saying:
"Since storage is so cheap, and is declining, we really couldn't figure out a way to ask you to pay out the ass for it like other companies, when we know you'll turn around later and say to us 'Hey, this amount of memory costs far less then your telling us it is for your system -fuck you!'
So we're going to find other ways to skim from your bank accounts that you aren't even thinking about, while giving you the illusion of choice in this one area, just so we can continue to make a steady buck off you without needing a price cut 6 months later."
Hey everybody complaining about the extra power supply, have you ever heard of USB powered hard drives? Have you stopped to consider that you can get a fatty 128GB thumb drive? Is that discreet enough for you?
if these people ARE complaining about a usb hard drive they can attach to a ps3 or 360 to use to download games onto is even more dumb, if you spent the money on that external drive, you could have spent even less on just a drive and upgraded your ps3. so i dont see a need to have an external for your downloads on a ps3 when you can upgrade the hdd inside it in 3 min.
BUT i do use an external drive with my ps3 to house all my digital movies and tv shows. so i can save space for my game son my ps3's hdd.
BUT i do use an external drive with my ps3 to house all my digital movies and tv shows. so i can save space for my game son my ps3's hdd.
@fetusmilk
"if these people ARE complaining about a usb hard drive they can attach to a ps3 or 360 to use to download games onto is even more dumb, if you spent the money on that external drive, you could have spent even less on just a drive and upgraded your ps3. so i dont see a need to have an external for your downloads on a ps3 when you can upgrade the hdd inside it in 3 min."
Believe it or not, some consumers aren't comfortable opening up their electronic devices and tinkering around inside them. And isn't that why we buy consoles in the first place? To avoid having to do PC-style upgrades?
"if these people ARE complaining about a usb hard drive they can attach to a ps3 or 360 to use to download games onto is even more dumb, if you spent the money on that external drive, you could have spent even less on just a drive and upgraded your ps3. so i dont see a need to have an external for your downloads on a ps3 when you can upgrade the hdd inside it in 3 min."
Believe it or not, some consumers aren't comfortable opening up their electronic devices and tinkering around inside them. And isn't that why we buy consoles in the first place? To avoid having to do PC-style upgrades?
To add to Mr Andy Dixon's point, You get a better deal with a 5.25 inch external than with a 2.5 inch internal. More bang for your buck with USB. Also, external drives are marginally more expensive than internals.
Get you a 2.5" self-powered drive if extra power is a concern for you. Just make sure it's fault-tolerant.
Also, cloud backup would be nice. I hope Microsoft put it in the 360 long enough ago for the others to take notes on its implementation. Then again, we still don't know how Nintendo is planning to expand its network infrastructure, so I'm still skeptical on everything about online.
Also, cloud backup would be nice. I hope Microsoft put it in the 360 long enough ago for the others to take notes on its implementation. Then again, we still don't know how Nintendo is planning to expand its network infrastructure, so I'm still skeptical on everything about online.
Cloud storage definitely an industry standard, but I can't blame them for not having it on day one. Better to concentrate on more important things.
@MikeShadows
Fair enough! Still, there's no denying that an external, plug-and-play USB HDD is easier for ANYONE to deal with.
Fair enough! Still, there's no denying that an external, plug-and-play USB HDD is easier for ANYONE to deal with.
@Mr Andy Dixon
It's easier, but I rather have a bigger HDD inside of my console than hanging outside.
It's easier, but I rather have a bigger HDD inside of my console than hanging outside.
"How is it that it's Nintendo, the company that didn't know what a hard drive was until a couple months ago, is the first of the 3 to get it right when it comes to not forcing proprietary bullshit on the consumer?"
Um ps3 did this already. As usually, nintendo fans forget sony did it first. Just like with analog sticks.
" This is one thing Nintendo understands & Sony always screws their customers with their proprietary memory!!"
Again, sony was the first to not use proprietary memory
Um ps3 did this already. As usually, nintendo fans forget sony did it first. Just like with analog sticks.
" This is one thing Nintendo understands & Sony always screws their customers with their proprietary memory!!"
Again, sony was the first to not use proprietary memory
Fetusmilk / Andy
As far as Sony goes I don't see a reason to complain about the PS3 at all, but the Vita? Absolutely. Those new proprietary memory sticks they're pushing for inflated prices is straight up extortion.
As far as Sony goes I don't see a reason to complain about the PS3 at all, but the Vita? Absolutely. Those new proprietary memory sticks they're pushing for inflated prices is straight up extortion.
Mr Andy Dixon & MikeShadows both have valid points.
I just recently upgraded my PS3 hard drive, and it wasn't nearly as simple as I expected. I had to make sure that I didn't get one above 1gb(that info was particularly hard to find). I had to back up my system completely. I had to re-install the firmware after finished. Sure, this stuff is cake to some, but it's very daunting to others. I'd imagine the target audience for nintendo would fall closer to the 'daunting' category. I like having an interal drive, sure. But it has it's drawbacks. USB externals have theirs too.
I just recently upgraded my PS3 hard drive, and it wasn't nearly as simple as I expected. I had to make sure that I didn't get one above 1gb(that info was particularly hard to find). I had to back up my system completely. I had to re-install the firmware after finished. Sure, this stuff is cake to some, but it's very daunting to others. I'd imagine the target audience for nintendo would fall closer to the 'daunting' category. I like having an interal drive, sure. But it has it's drawbacks. USB externals have theirs too.
@fetus
The PS3's hard drive can't be swapped from console to console. For every PS3 it's used with, it has to be formatted first, so Sony MAKES them proprietary on that level.
I doubt the Wii U will have this problem.
The PS3's hard drive can't be swapped from console to console. For every PS3 it's used with, it has to be formatted first, so Sony MAKES them proprietary on that level.
I doubt the Wii U will have this problem.
with the current price of harddrives including one adds quite a bit to production costs, while it may be a bit slower external harddrives really make it easy to upgrade the storage in years to come, and as it is you can already use drives almost 10 times the size of the biggest drives that come with the 360/ps3 yes you can upgrade the ps3 drive up to 1tb without modding but still this is pretty nice. I wonder if there is an esata mod for the ps3 drive bay because that would make it better than the wiiu apart from the fact that you can't use a ps3 drive for anything else.
Well, they certainly make it sound all noble and junk, but I'm concerned about functionality. Will installed games, DLC, save data be able to be accessed and used by the system directly from the external hard drive? If so, great, but I don't think a game's going to like having to access install file from hard drive, save information from SD card, and add-on DLC from an external USB drive while running the game itself. It seems much more likely that only what's on the system itself will actually be useable, and external storage is just storage and not immediately useable, which'll be totally fine if transfer speed to or from is quick. It'd still be a lot handier to have a large central storage option from the get go so I wouldn't feel compelled to preemptively worry about this crap.
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