The hype and people wanting something they just cant have is definately helping nintendo - no doubt.
But I'd say by next christmas there'll be enough titles (multiplayer/party games at least) to keep its sales flying high.
But year, Nintendo will probably have a tough time in 2008 unless they pull something great out of their asses.

Yeah...I'd buy a Wii if there were more than one or two games worth playing. I honestly can't name many more than Zelda, Red Steel, and Madden. Maybe I just suck.

Very clever Kannon... I hadn't thought of that.

Q:Can the Wii survive on hope alone for the next year?
A: Metroid Prime 3, Super Smash Bros, Super Mario Galaxy.

All of these titles are coming out this year.

That Mario looks so evil

Not lack of software, lack of good software.

so basicly, you get a Wii to play the most innuitive games!

Mario, Zelda, Metroid!

Names you probably never ever heard b4!

/end-sarcasm

seriously, nintendo is whoring those names more than Squeenix is whoring FF. and ladies n jets... thats not a good thing.

Ill give nintendo one prop... I would feel rather safe buying a wii for my kids due to its non-violent look & lineup for healthy VG or family who dont really play VG at all. Other from that... meh.

Summa's slowly leveling up from "Elitist" to "Sniveling Bitch"


You know, man. I have 3 games for the Wii:Zelda, SSX and Paper Mario. With the Xbox360 I have 5. Hasn't the Xbox been out longer?

And besides, with those Wii games, a small handful of classics such as Kid Ick and OoT, and a damn good internet browser, I'll take it all with pleasure.


Also, Gears of War is mediocre.

The system is incredibly appealing to everyone, by not catering exclusively to the hardcore gamer (or even regular gamer), they've opened up their audience to just ANYONE who wants to have fun.

So people are buying them. It's a totally non-threatening system, unlike a 360 or a PS3.

The better question to ask though: is what they're doing with it a week/month later, after the novelty has worn off.

Let's see, only been out since November and there's Wii Sports, Zelda, Excite Truck (I fell in love with it after I rented it and got used to the controls), Super Paper Mario, some really good VC games, Sonic and the Secret Rings is pretty decent, Super Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime 3 and SSBB coming out this year and actual 100% compatibility for GameCube titles....where is this software drought? I guess you must be referring to Sony with their excellent lineup since the PS3 came out at the same time....oh wait....

So do adults, I'm 27 and I love it. It gets a lot more play than my 360.

My Wii is still collecting dust....Nintendo better release a good title soon...

u dont have to agree with summa nintendorks summa u are right though wtf are the japanese playingt that it merits byuing a wii

Decent online play is a pretty big want.

Well the reason online play with people you don't know is fun isn't the social interaction, but that it's a lot more interesting than putting yourself up against mere AI. As for the Wii, the original Xbox started off with no multiplayer too, and it ended up the multiplayer kind of its generation by a long-shot.

I've thought of some things to hold against the Wii in different discussions, but I was happy to find myself proven wrong.

Wii haters don't seem to have any reason to hate it other than that it is doing well.

Summa, you depress me man.

I didn't think people like you existed anymore, unfortunately they obviously do. You have such a dated view of what a games console is, in a couple of years you will sound like a whinging old man way out of his depth. You and like minded gamers are being left behind, and the sad thing is, you can't even see it. The Wii has been out about 6 months, it is first of all drawing in the casual gamers, then establishing itself, then it will kick into gear once developers and consumers fully understand what it is. How can you not see this? How can you not see what Nintendo are doing here?

Hardcore gamers with any sense, realize what is going on and are accepting that you can't have real change without a rough ride to begin with, right now with the Wii is experiencing the classic teething problems of something genuinely new and different. It is not suffering from lack of software, it does not lack quality games, it just simply doesn't satisfy some hardcore gamers who want it to be something it is clearly not.

Dinosaurs like Summa take way too much offense at an affordable console which has decided to involve everyone, this inclusive approach from Nintendo would have had to happen eventually so don't blame the Wii for a change that was inevitable anyway, if Nintendo didn't create the Wii then someone at some stage would have had to take a step back, take a deep breath and decide to calm things down and release a proper accessible, affordable home console, instead of a piece of hardware with an indentity crisis that is trying to be a PC.

Prices for powerful PC's are still falling, when someone can buy a UHD version of Lost Planet for their PC, a kitted out PC which only costs marginally more than a PS3, will the current Sony vision of what a home console is remain a sustainable business? No way.

Why do you hate the Wii Summa? Are you threatened by it because "Methinks the lady doth protest too much."

This current scenario with the Wii is an exact mirror of the DS, nobody thought the DS would sell and so nobody bothered developing for it in advance, they all hopped on the bandwagon once it became an obvious hit. In this rush, developers ported a load of GBA games, it wasn't until a good year into it's life that developers started producing proper DS software.

The Wii finds itself in exactly the same scenario, you're meant to be game journalist Summa, so why can't you see the obvious DS paralell? Blinded by your weird hate for the Wii? Snap out of it.

Nintendo says "Fuck the games, the system sells itself. People will eventually stop buying it because it lacks any decent video games. But hey, we're making a big profit off of this cheap system. We win. The customers lose".

I own a Wii. I use it to watch internet TV and play Gamecube games.

I just got a 360 and I play it every day. But I still want the wii to have something good to play. Errr

Summa gets pwned as usual, fucking moron.

@ subnet6

Nothing against Nebraska bro,you could replace what I said with any state in the United States.

It's the same principle that you find at a grocery store. You have a list of things you need to get but lo and behold, cat litter is 3 for a dollar??? Gotta get it! I always wanted a cat anyways... Basically I see most people's opinions go one of two ways.

First, there's the hardcore who figure, 'hell, i already spent $600 on a big sstem, what's another $250?" Then you got your 'I want next-gen but I can't affor $500 - $600." Oh, but I almost forgot. The 360's been cashing in a bit on retro (SF2 made a pretty penny if I remember correctly) but Nintendo is superior in that department, hands down. So the retro kids get what they want too.

I'm beginning to think that I'm one of the few that simply see it as a gimmick without a great use for the wiimote. When they make a highlander game for the wii, I will instantly have one... like magic... but until then, I have much patience.

"The people who think it's just for kids, ARE kids. I don't know many 20 or 30 somethings who don't realize what video games are and are not. Video games are inherently childish because they allow you to "play pretend". I would argue that more teen agers like to pretend to be big tough guys killing things than adults do. I would wager that more late teens play gears than any other demographic. BTW, late teens are kids to me so thats why I thing gears is a less mature title. I would argue that the Wii targets 2 age groups most intensely, the 5-12 and the 23+. Its the 13-22 year olds that are scared to death of playing a game that might be considered "kiddie". I'm 32 and have long since lost my fear of what others think of the games I play. My 3 year old nephew feels so cool because he gets to wear his "big boy undies". You see the old ones were for BABIES and hes a "big boy" now. Yeah, he still pisses his pants sometimes but damnit, he's not a baby! Thats what i hear when people call the Wii kiddie. They are saying, "I play video games just like a little kid does so I have to somehow make my games sound cool and their games sound lame so no one mistakes the fact that we are both engaged in the EXACT SAME activity, controlling an on screen avatar with our thumbs."

Wicked post, subnet6, I'll give you that. I can identify with this. When Paper Mario 2 came out, I bought it online and played it in secrecy. Nobody knew I had it.

Now that I've since gotten over what you mentionned, I went to pick up Super Paper Mario and had a chat about it with the cashier and his woman that was waiting for him to get off work. Awesome game, no shame there.

For those who claim the Wii has nothing to offer for the 'hardcore gamer' as they tend to call it. By the way, a REAL hardcore gamer plays any game any timee, and place. They don't brand whore and bitch about other consoles. Thats not hardcore gaming.

Anywho, Pick up Godfather, and say it doesn't classify for the 'hardcore gamer'

Summa Summa Summa . . . . What happened to you, brother? You used to be all about the games. It was the games that kept you going, man. Now you're just all about the trolling. You're a completely different person than when I first met you, brother. It's the games that unite us, regardless of console, and to say that there are no good games on the Wii, or to say that the Wii only has hope to survive on? Reporting good news and putting a negative spin on it, what's that about? You never used to do this, dude. Yet here we are.

I'll tell you what, though. You head on down to your local Blockbuster or rental store of your choice, and grab a couple of Wii games. Games that have been mentioned in this thread. Games like Godfather: Blackhand Edition, SSX Blur and Tiger Woods 07, and even some Super Paper Mario if you haven't already played it, and give them a try. There are good games to be had for the Wii, but in your current trolling state, you've just been blinded to them. It's OK though, Robbert, we can work through this together. We will once again turn you into an unbiased journalist. A true 'hardcore gamer'. We can do it. You and I, we'll work through the pain you're feeling, and you'll come out a better journalist and person again.

It's possible, Summa. We can do it. You just have to believe. Do you believe, Rob? 'cause I believe.

@Artist
Also remember that a lot of the people that say the Wii isn't for hardcore gamers have both the 360 and the PS3, and a lot of them even have the Wii too, it isn't like its just a giant flame war. The Wii is literally aiming at a different demographic.

@subnet (AKA Summa basher)
You say people just bash Nintendo and the Wii because they don't want to be playing "kiddie games" yet guys like Wheat over at EG play cooking Mama on thier DS and give it great reviews, I sure wouldn't call that a mature game.

I can see this being a bit like movies, and Nintendo is Pixar. They make the best games for the people they are aiming at, and they are so good that they even bring in a good amount of people outside of who they are aiming at, but they simply don't deal with concepts that movies like Requiem For A Dream, Donnie Darko, Million Dollar Baby, and Gladiator deal with. And they can't dream of being as awesome as 300 or Terminator 2. They can't go as in-depth into a subject (technologically or philosophically) as Ghost In The Shell or The Matrix.

Shit, friends here, gotta go. Feel free to complain about my shitty half post.

@TheRob91


The matrix was made as an allegory for jesus christ in college by the wachowski brothers(dont think i spelled that right) in college. They studied philosophy and religions. So that movie concept was never drawn up by hollywood people, it was thought up by two students in college. The other two just happened because people wanted sequels. There is actually alot of movies in hollywood that are religious allegories, edward scissorhands is another one.