While the meager storage space on the Wii is only mildly annoying for even the most hardcore Nintendo fanboy, the company continues to surprise us by renouncing hard drive peripherals for their console. The debate reminds me of the N64 cartridge vs. CD debacle that stunted that generation's ability to make sweet love to bleeding edge SquareEnix products, among other key content. As a Wii-loving owner I hate seeing the system's obvious weak points celebrated as features by their own people and felt the need to speak up about it.
PR manager Eric Walter said the company would prefer that gamers micromanage our game libraries and delete, download, and repeat as needed. He further noted that it "was like putting music on your iPod". Had I been present I would have beat him senseless with Ron's 100-pound Zune: there is no way in hell the experience is the same, nor is the absence of a hard drive a low-fi way of circumventing piracy (ahem ahem). More importantly, if we're willing to throw money at the Wii so that it doesn't have to be that way, why not make it happen? I'd buy that over a Fit Board!
I'll preface my rant in acknowledging that some sort of solid-state device alternative may be in the works, unless they're completely insane. Even if they go that route, I doubt the capacity be bigger and cheaper than HDD technology. Furthermore, I'm annoyed at the company's dietary approach to how they perceive guys like me consume their games. In a sense -- I'm not unlike Fat Bastard: I want every Nintendo product I own in my belly at once, and that was one the promise of the Wii with their VC product and promised upcoming online features. Instead, I'm looking this news like I own an anemic console that I'll have to perpetually juggle my soon-to-be-epic collection on.
Instead, this just seems counterintuitive to my self-indulgent American Consumewhoreism, and I'd like to make an appeal as to why this can't possibly be a good thing for Wii owners nor anything like the iPod experience. Hit the jump for my rant and please weigh in with your perspective.

First of all, my iPod stores 80gigs of crap. This means that I can enjoy an infinite variety of said crap at my disposal with as little storage management as possible. Sure, I could have bought a smaller version, but Apple understands that when OCD people breed with packrats their kids may want a gigantic version of their products. The Wii doesn't let me do that, so in the end I end up using the Will less because the user experience and usability of their dashboard is so far behind my other consoles. While that may sound like only something a hardcore gamer might want, I'm sure that moms, pops, and kids would also rather have less scratched disks and bigger downloadable content options on their dashboard too.
Furthermore, taking a song on and off your iTunes library can be done in a matter of clicks, and there is another computer device that you control that can give you the asset in seconds. Requesting a single game from the Wii interface is a ten minute song and dance involving icon clicking, theme songs, hand-holding confirmation screens, and so on. I rather only do that once and forget not hum the catchy virtual console song as I watch my arm hair slowly grow.
The biggest problem I have with this is that it discounts what the PS3 and the 360 do extremely well -- when my ass hits the sofa after work I can enjoy an absurd amount of content on both those consoles at the flick of a wrist without having to perform analog functions of moving said buttocks back and forth between my entertainment center. It's not only a matter of an evolved sense of next-gen laziness: it's my desire to see that slick hard-drive-driven user experience come to the Wii in a bigger way than the vague skimpy low-storage future ahead of it. We all know digital download is the next big content delivery and we'd love to see gigs of content coming down from Miyamoto-powered interwebs to sample in our homes.
Hard drives are cheap. They're reliable. Nintendo has the resources to make those overpriced $100 product offerings from their competitors look ridiculous and they have a software library could be irresistible if it was one button click away on a 200GB whopper. A solid state media solution can only result in a smaller capacity due to costs, and that is not what I think (all) American consumers want.
Personally speaking, I want to use my Wii more, but I don't, and I have to look at how often I'm in XBLA and PlayStation Network as one of the most compelling reasons. Nintendo: Screw your iPod analogy -- get in my belly!
I'm serious. Very Serious. Bad things will happen. Muahahaha
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512MB is not enough. We'll be filling up our memory cards too fast with all the downloadable battlefields from Smash Brothers Brawl.
Fix this, Nintendo, or I'll toilet paper the house of whoever posts after me!
I doubt Nintendo would offer those services anyway, but I can see Third Party developers not being able to implement them.
On Topic: If it doesn't happen with the release of WiiWare, I have lost all hope.
If they don't come out with some sort of external hardrive attachment, they are retarded and more importantly, completely oblivious to the consumer's needs and future demands.
Its one thing to wait 5 minutes to download a VC titles back to your system, its another to wait 30 minutes or longer to wait for the AAA WiiWare titles coming next year.
The Wii is a cool concept, well excecuted, Nintendo have a hit on their hands, and what do they do with it? They castrate it. Neiro is right about comparing the Wii's lack of storage facilities to the cartridge Vs CD dillema on the N64, Nintendo stubbornly stuck with cartridges whilst it was obvious that gamers wanted more, Sony created a system which represented the new craving in gamers, Nintendo missed the zeitgeist by a wide margin.
I genuinely thought that Iwata was the man who would move Nintendo forward from their self defeating stubborness and fear of being open to consumer input.
I've been a Nintendo fan since the Famicom days but I can sense that they are about to drop the ball again, that all too familiar feeling of them acting like babysitters and pretending that the competition has no affect on gamers expectations of a console's facilities.
So here's Nintendo's current situation: A top selling console with wonderful potential, yet it is held back by the very company that made it - no realistic storage facilities for a 21st century piece of hardware, blunted online features which contradicts the very point of Wii, virtually no new in house IP's which would represent why the Wii is unique, yet a hatful of games involving Mario which could have ben made on any other console. In other words, Nintendo themselves are yet again abusing their own console, The Super Famicom was the last console Nintendo made which delivered it's full potential and delivered everything it could for the gamer.
Perhaps next year we will see Nintendo sort out all their ridiculous self inflicted issues with the Wii. But as a seasoned Nintendo fan, I can sense them cocking it up yet again.
Stop Nintendo, you're reminding me of this cartoon:
http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2006/10/03
Sure, that's about the Zune, but it's the same idea.
It's called WiiWare...
Double profits!!!
Here is hoping the let you use a USB memory card or Nyko gets creative on that ass and makes a tight ass External drive..
Logitech, Nyko, Madcatz.. PLEASE HEAR US OUT... I ganruntee MILLIONS
It's a ridiculous and dated policy.
Nintendo is making the same goddamn mistakes again.
Stop it. STOP IT. GIT BACK IN YER DOGHOUSE.
Basically he's saying, "Want more space? Tough shit bitches, learn how to manage your shit better."
But i don't care anymore, i sold my wii.
Dude, you sold your Wii? Are you crazy? Sure, there aren't alot of good games now, but it's Nintendo! You will live to regret this decision, my friend. Wait until a new Zelda comes out, or in general more 1st Party games. If you're a hardcore gamer, that's all that matters.
By the way if you go for SD cards too back up your games pay a little extra for the high speed memory cards, the standered 2GB ones for £3 that you think is a bargain are horrendously slow.
Oh, and it sounds exactly like the iPod experience - a major pain in the arse!
/zing
When Wii was first announced it was great, but I paid close attention to that 512mb internal memory, and I my jaw dropped a bit. Not even 1gb, not even 2gb...even in these days when hard drive space is getting cheaper, Nintendo totally failed in this aspect, which even MS got right with Xbox. Xbox proved that even with 4-8gb you could still do a lot more with games. Unfortunately, Nintendo have once again failed to learn from others.
Hey, even GC should have been online properly, and Nintendo couldn't even get that right.
Its poor for Nintendo to think we don't want a Wii hard drive and feels just like the Sony crap with PS3 BC again. On top of that what Nintendo also fail to see is that a hard drive is vital, to encouraging more third parties to consider Wii.
I'm a firm believer in people power. Perhaps Destructoid should start a Wii hard drive campaign, because only then will Nintendo realise we do want one. For them to spin bullshit is beyond contempt.
A Wii hard drive would be so easy to do. Dammit Nintendo, and if you don't want to make one, speak to Western Digital, Iomega etc and they will do it for you.
This now makes me wonder, with that FF Wiiware game on the way, if its gonna be a DLC, how will Wii owners store it?
My Wii has really only been used as a web browser for a few months now (since MP3), and once I get a PSTriple I'm sure that it's usage will go down even more since I can surf on the PS3. Between Christmas and February I'm afraid my Wii will be a $250 plastic accent to my entertainment center.
For fuck sake Nintendo, you seem to have time to produce Wii Zappers and Wii Fit boards, but none for a freaking hard drive which could benefit Wii more? They don't even have to redesign Wii to do it internally, as an external will do nicely. If they have the balls to come out and say 'We aren't ignoring the hardcore gamers' yesterday, put you money where you mouth is, and produce a freaking hard drive. You have no fucking excuse now.
The only others I can see plugging this gap are Datel, Logitech etc, but they'd still have to work with Nintendo to get it on shelves. To deny such hard drive demand is stupid, but I think Nintendo will do so to try and fleece us on SD cards, the same way Sony did on PS1 and PS2 memory cards.
Learn from your competition. Its not necessary to be a ronin all the time.
I call bullshit on that Nintendo rep. Pure and utter bullshit!
Nintendo needs to get a fucking clue.
zardoz nailed it on the head with nintendo fucking up scince N64
DynamicSheep i am in the exact same situation as u with only using my wii as a web browser and playing some XBLA before going to sleep
So all i see is nintendo fucking us on this console again
They put out zelda, which was a great game. then mario galaxy is coming out. (note that these games were released way far apart without enough decent games inbetween) then SSBB comes out, next year and thats it.
Sure there will be some other good games that come out but if its multiplatform then well, its probably going to suck (ok i know that sounds a little harsh but from what ive played so far id rather play something on my 360 than my wii)
Everyone will be like
A. ZOMG GLOVER64 ON TEH WII!!!1!1!! (with great sarcasm)
or
B. Yeah i play SSBB sometimes... (never online though cuz even after all the god damn friend codes i still got to call them to tell them to turn their systems on or stop jerkin their wiimotes off to some fat headed generic bitch u see parading on ur wii because even that is more exciting than playing the 'make mario jump for 10 mins while u download an overpriced SNES game that you already own or could buy for cheaper or even download for free but would prefer the slight bit of convenice and a shittier controller, game'
Then some really awesome game will come out to mark the death of the Wii (think RE4. actually it will be RE4, but they will name it RE4:Wii because scary words and wii dont really go together so they were just like fuck it they will buy it cuz it comes with a little metal looking but actually plastic suitcase to put ur wiimote in)
Oh yeah i almost forgot about the DS-Wii compatibilty. im going to go out on a limb here and say 'Cool nintendo, it has pokemon combatibliy, can we download stuff like demos for games that arent out yet? no? ok maybe.... months later? thanks. ur the best'
And that, fellow dtioders, is a very inaccurate look at the future of the wii filled with lots of spelling errors.
I don't even own a wii, but an hdd on one would be a seriously good call...
oh well.
I fucking love xbla and psn for the fact that its all there, I dont have to download anything, its instantly accessable... I LOVE IT.
less time hassling with menus and download screens and what not... more time playing.
it is indeed win.