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Why you can't play Hulu on your PS3 photo

I watch all my television on my computer by hooking it up to my television through an HDMI cable. At this point there just isn't any point to watching TV "live" since everyone can get everything over the web whenever they want, and for most of the shows watching it in Hi-Def is beyond unnecessary. Many others might use their PS3s to watch TV. They may have also used Hulu to do this, but no more.

Yesterday many PS3 owners may have seen this little message when trying to watch video on Hulu: "Unfortunately, this video is not available on your platform." Where did the Hulu go? Engadget decided to find out and, using Matlockery, discovered that "the Hulu TOS was just updated as of June 26, and although we haven't found any PS3-specific passages, changing a browser's user-string to match the console reveals it is definitely being specifically blocked."

Mystery abounds and Hulu isn't responding yet. For now PS3 owners will have to wait and see what happens and maybe try to make their brains turn back into a solid state.


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linuxguy's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/28/2009 08:11
linuxguy
To Sony: make the useragent string editable KTHXBYE
zoemgs2's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/28/2009 08:36
zoemgs2
Hey HULU, GOPHUCKYOURSELF!!
Zantetsuken's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/28/2009 08:42
Zantetsuken
>Watch your favourites. Anytime. For free.

Unless we don't like what you are using to view it. And people wonder why TV torrents are incredibly popular.
catsithx's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/28/2009 08:50
catsithx
I love my tv torrents
PhazonYoshi's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/28/2009 08:52
PhazonYoshi
@Zan, or where you're viewing from, another limitation torrents don't have.
Volomon's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/28/2009 08:59
Volomon
That's kind of screwed up.
KensterFox's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/28/2009 09:07
KensterFox
I swear, when I saw this story on my RSS reader, I thought the headline was "Why you can't play Halo on your PS3". Definition of a slow news day.
Takeshi's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/28/2009 09:13
Takeshi
Hulu isn't available in Europe anyway. So I don't really mind. It's a bit weird though.
koehler83's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/28/2009 09:22
koehler83
Well the good news is that this only affects a minority of PS3s as the majority of PS3 owners have never been able to use Hulu.
The Phazer's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/28/2009 09:29
The Phazer
No mystery. Hulu's licence from the studios says they can stream the content to computers only. Not set top boxes, not integrated devices, not games consoles.

When someone from the studios noticed Boxee, it was blocked (Hulu knew, but once threats of programme withdrawal or lawsuits happen, Hulu has to move very quickly), and a game of cat and mouse begins.

Exactly the same has obviously happened here. Kinda surprising it lasted this long really.

Similar things have happened before - for example the BBC's iPlayer blocks some shows on the Wii (like Heroes) for similar reasons.
Freefall's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/28/2009 09:38
Freefall
@KensterFox

Oh that made me lol. I'd like to see that article on a slow news day though.
Spectreman's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/28/2009 10:01
Spectreman
* Short dick move. Maybe because Hulu will be "exclusive" for 360.
BGFUSAB's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/28/2009 10:09
BGFUSAB
Its unlikely that Hulu will be showing up on the Xbox360. Like Phazer said this is coming from the broadcast networks who provide the programming to Hulu.

The broadcast networks are suffering from extremely diminished ratings. The networks have been pretty clear on their desire to keep Hulu off television sets and on monitors only. There are of course easy ways around this, like connecting your computer to your TV if you have the right video car/TV. Most Americans don't do this though.

At any rate, the networks don't want Hulu on TV and so I think it will be a while before you see consoles having that kind of capability. Services you pay for however, like Netflix, are a different story.
Blasto's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/28/2009 10:34
Blasto
Wow, total dick move supreme. I previously used Hulu on my PS3 a lot to mainly watch the Fox cartoons (Family Guy etc.) as I never watch network programming due mainly to not wanting to waste my time enduring commercials. I have tapered off anyway as Hulu had been working half-assed, if at all, on PS3 recently.

But, like has been mentioned, you can easily hook up a PC to a TV anyway so what's the point? Oh yeah, most high-level executives, regardless of their industry, are redundant, over-paid, out of touch fucktards. So now they're not getting me to watch their shows, and by extension, the paid advertisements that go along with them at all. Brilliant move guys, that's why you make the big bucks, huh? Fucking suit-douches...
Takeshi's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/28/2009 10:43
Takeshi
I have yet to see what the difference is between surfing on a PC and a PS3. If they're scared of something it should be the PC. You can capture pretty much everything and torrent the shit out of it. Now on a PS3 it would be rather difficult.

I also wonder if it would make any difference if you use Linux on your PS3. Because then it is running as a PC. Anyone tried that yet?
xiaolinstyle's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/28/2009 10:50
xiaolinstyle
While I can see why it would upset a consumer, in the end these tv programs are NOT our property and if we want to watch em we have to go through whatever hoops they want. TV isnt free to make.
Timmeh's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/28/2009 10:54
Timmeh
Not that it makes much difference if you live outside the US anyway.

Honestly, when are these people going to crawl into the 21st century instead of trying to drag everyone else backward?
Blasto's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/28/2009 11:09
Blasto
@ xiaolinstyle A.K.A. Captain Obvious

Hulu has paid advertisements, so wtf is your point. Sorry to be harsh, but I think that was a pretty fucking pointless comment.
PhazonYoshi's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/28/2009 11:20
PhazonYoshi
@Takeshi; It seems to be based on the brower's user-agent string. It -might- block anything registering itself as a ps3 (which ps3 linux... might do?), but even then it'd be stupidly easy to change.
whormongr's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/28/2009 11:27
whormongr
@ koehler83 absolutely true- playon was kinda working for hulu when I was on the beta but after a couple of updates playon kept screwing up so I dumped it and every time I have tried to do hulu in the browser it completely freezes the system up-
Zero Atma's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/28/2009 11:42
Zero Atma
The last time I used PlayOn it worked well (a couple weeks ago), though I don't use it much. And yeah, Hulu DOES have ads; in fact, ads for the Simpsons sell for more on Hulu than TV, so the networks should grow up and learn to catch up with technology. IPTV will happen eventually. Networks need to be more forward-thinking
mix's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/28/2009 11:44
mix
Hulu won't work in Canada anyways so :(
AgentBBJ's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/28/2009 12:14
AgentBBJ
Well this encourages me to go the less than legal route to watch my shows. I can't hook up my computer to the TV because it is really old. Looks like I will be using torrents and there advertisers will not get the ad views.
googoogaagaa's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/28/2009 12:29
googoogaagaa
I believe there is a work around to watching hulu on your PS3 using Tversity media server
brainderailment's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/28/2009 13:02
brainderailment
Another boxee like blockage. Hulu not streaming to anything but pcs is only going to perpetuate torrenting of their content.
manasteel88's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/28/2009 13:34
manasteel88
its because they still have to answer to ad support on NBC and the other subsidiaries which accounts to a higher ad revenue than Hulu gets.
pedrovay2003's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/28/2009 14:13
pedrovay2003
I tend to torrent everything myself, but this is honestly bullcrap. Why the PS3 hate all of a sudden? Does Hulu like having people angry with then?
Magnalon's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/28/2009 14:26
Magnalon
Tversity=win. Go look it up :D
The Phazer's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/28/2009 15:32
The Phazer
I tend to torrent everything myself, but this is honestly bullcrap. Why the PS3 hate all of a sudden? Does Hulu like having people angry with then?

Given the choice for Hulu is being sued by millions of individual contributors to the programmes and the networks withdrawing all the programmes, I imagine Hulu would rather post photos on their frontpage of them defacating on a PS3 if they were told to, never mind just blocking them.

It's not even just the networks - the issue is that lots of old TV contracts tended to define delivering to a set top box as Video On Demand rather than online streaming. And because cable VOD used to be pay-per-view, that means the actors and writers residuals are higher, which is probably enough to make Hulu unprofitable... So they're blocked. That won't be the case with all programmes, but probably enough to justify not doing the admin on a case by case basis.

I'm afraid I'll never understand the logic that this justifies piracy though. Congrats, then the jobbing actors don't get paid! That'll teach the networks!
BluDesign's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/28/2009 16:51
BluDesign
Great. Thanks studios and Hulu. Blocking my content access yet again means that I once again go back to torrents for my entertainment. It's freaking retarded. I used to have my GF come over on the weekends to catch up on The Office and some other shows. Not any more. We'll just torrent it and watch it some other way. If Hulu and the studios don't want that ad dollar they can kiss my ass because I was giving it to them by watching their fucking ads. Now they can just blow me.
Scientist tz's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/28/2009 17:21
Scientist tz
No problem. The ps3 is great at streaming videos I've downloaded onto my PC.
parrothead's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/28/2009 18:22
parrothead
I have been using my PS3 to watch stuff on HULU. This sucks that they updated their site and left us out.
Volomon's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/28/2009 19:46
Volomon
@ThePhazer I have no idea what you are talking about and I'm about 100% sure neither do you.

First off all these "little" individual companies are controlled by one large company typically in the universe we live in this still counts as being one company. This includes a lot of these TV networks you mention. For instance NBC Universal owns Hulu. As far as I know I have not heard about NBC being sued by anyone. Also they are in turned owned by GE. Also as you can tell NBC is part of Universal. Which in turn they are part of Vivendi Universal or now called Vivendi.

Which funny enough this becomes game related right here because Vivendi owns Activision-Blizzard.

Anyway point being stfu if you don't know what your talking about. A lot of these "individual" networks you talk about are owned by the parent company. As are the movies.

Also

Hulu is free and legal through an advertising supported model.

* Videos are available for unlimited streaming; watch favorite shows and clips over and over, for free

Right on the website. So ya it's for streaming.

So can we just label you as know nothing talk a lot of nothing?

On another note thought the reason they are doing this is either because PS3 works region free allowing restricted regions to use hulu or xbox has hulu on lock down. Which if I'm not mistaken is the case.

http://gizmodo.com/5114459/could-hulu-be-coming-to-xbox-360
DinnertimeNinja's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/28/2009 20:20
DinnertimeNinja
Here's one instance where I can't bring myself to care about torrenting an episode of a TV show that I want to watch.

The network doesn't see any money from me watching it live on my tube OR torrenting it since I'm not part of a Nielson family. In fact, the company doesn't even know what the hell the 99% of people WITHOUT Nielson boxes are doing with their time at all.

I don't even feel a TINGE of remorse for torrenting TV shows (except for ones on premium channels) for this reason. Why should I? And I don't watch anything on Hulu so they wouldn't have gotten ad money from me there anyway.
Qraze's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/28/2009 22:13
Qraze
i'll try that Takeshi. next time i switch to linux i'll try.
Interstate78's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/28/2009 22:58
Interstate78
Two words: Microsoft Exclusive

You heard it here first
TheStripe's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2009 01:27
TheStripe
Just use PlayOn.

@dinnertime ninja : you're actually only half right. The audience commodity is as Predictable as any other. They know what we're watching based on the desirability of advertizing space. Time shifting via hulu likely has little impact on that.
ChaosTeaCup's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2009 04:47
ChaosTeaCup
Magnalon, are you seriously saying that because small companies are owned by big companies, they're not accountable to the legal in-and-outs of broadcasting??

That, my friend, is a retarded statement.
The Phazer's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2009 06:35
The Phazer
@ThePhazer I have no idea what you are talking about and I'm about 100% sure neither do you.

It's a bit of a shitter for you that I'm a broadcast rights consultant professionally then, isn't it?

First off all these "little" individual companies are controlled by one large company typically in the universe we live in this still counts as being one company. This includes a lot of these TV networks you mention. For instance NBC Universal owns Hulu.

No it doesn't. Hulu is a separate company. NBC is a shareholder, but a minority one. Broadcast rights are complicated. Rights in shows will typically be owned by dozens of indviduals and companies, all with different holders and objectives.

As far as I know I have not heard about NBC being sued by anyone.

Any large company gets sued every week over issues. NBC are no exception. It's not even news.

Anyway point being stfu if you don't know what your talking about.

Well hello Mr Kettle! You are as black as a dead Transformer in a Michael Bay film.

A lot of these "individual" networks you talk about are owned by the parent company.

No they're not. Almost no networks have majority shareholders. And networks rarely own their own programmes - they have some licencable rights, but the copyright ultimately resides with the studios. Sometimes they might own the studios, but not necessarily, and not necessarily the same network that shows the programme.

On another note thought the reason they are doing this is either because PS3 works region free allowing restricted regions to use hulu or xbox has hulu on lock down. Which if I'm not mistaken is the case.

Now you're really talking nonsense - Hulu's access is controlled by IP geo-location. The PS3 doesn't somehow magically connect to the internet in a way that doesn't use an IP address, and nor is it region free (it's games aren't region protected, though it's quite technically capable of doing so, and it does use regional blu-ray movie lockouts).

The Xbox deal as it rumoured ain't likely to happen either, precisely because of the above.
Blasto's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2009 10:01
Blasto
Haha, damn, The Phazer said *Slap* in yo face :)

But since the PS3 can run Linux and function exactly as a computer, isn't there room for argument here legally?
ChaosTeaCup's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2009 10:57
ChaosTeaCup
Ooops! I meant Volemon, not Magnalon...Sorry..
The Phazer's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2009 11:11
The Phazer
But since the PS3 can run Linux and function exactly as a computer, isn't there room for argument here legally?

Room for arguement legally, sure - indeed, I actually suspect a court would probably find in Hulu's favour.

But of course, nobody has to licence any shows to Hulu, so if it gets that far they probably end up with no content and hence no jobs straight afterwards.
DinnertimeNinja's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2009 16:36
DinnertimeNinja
@The Stripe,

The desirability of ad space doesn't equate directly AT ALL to who (and how many of the "who") is watching which shows.

All it tells you is who the ad companies THINK are watching the shows. And their thoughts are based off of Nielson data which almost no one is a part of.

Couple that with the fact that if ad space pricing is artificially inflated by any source, the demand from other advertisers can increase without ANY change in viewership.
BattyAdroit's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2009 19:50
BattyAdroit
@The Phazer: Thanks for the insight!
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