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Why the Dante's Inferno criticism can go to Hell photo

Much ado has been had over Electronic Arts' Dante's Inferno, a God of War-esque action game that has used the famous poem of the same name as its thematic backdrop. As in Dante's epic, players will have to travel the nine circles of Hell, but instead of painting a vivid view of Christian afterlife, they'll be planting crucifixes into the heads of noobs and reveling in mindless slaughter while sentient genitalia gnash at them.

For some reason, this is wrong.

If you have a problem with Dante's Inferno as EA perceives it, or if you think the game looks lovely and that the book owls should just shut up, this article is highly unlikely to change your mind. However, you might piss and moan at it, and that's always worth a post.

The majority of you will already know about Dante's Inferno, although I doubt just as many have read it. To briefly recap for those who, like me, are too lazy to read, it's part of The Divine Comedy, a literary work almost 700 years old in which the author and eponymous hero observes the afterlife, visiting Heaven, Purgatory and Hell. As you might have gathered, Inferno is set in Hell, and it is from Dante's work that we have the famous "Nine Circles" -- the realms of Hell reserved for those that have sinned in varying degrees of evil.

It is one of the most respected works of all time, full of medieval political commentary and insights into ye olde worlde. Obviously, some people have a problem with such a highly regarded literary classic being turned into a violent and blood-soaked third-person action game where crucifixes get smashed into heads for fun

Personally, I think it's great. Hilarious, even. I also think we need to really lighten up. 

First of all, any videogame based on a book is going to take artistic license. It'll be difficult to base a book on The Divine Comedy without having to make stuff up a little. Or a lot. However, is it really that insulting to the original work? So EA has taken a famous poem, adopted a number of themes and characters, and made the rest up. It doesn't really take anything away from the poem, does it? If anything, I think it adds something. 

I personally love to see fresh takes on old books or history; the crazier, the better. God of War is a good example, where traditional Greek myths have been radically altered. They're not especially faithful to the old Greek ideas, but rather an updated look that only adds to the original by providing a new outlook. A Gorgon was not more snake than woman, but their representation in God of War is still refreshing and rather striking to behold, while retaining the general theme of the original template. 

I doubt Dante's Inferno will be as fresh as God of War, but it's still a radical departure from the established text, and that kind of thing always intrigues me. We already have the book, so do we need a game that's exactly like the book? I don't think so. 

That's the mature response to this whole situation. My first and more childish instinct, however, is that it's incredibly funny. Here we have The Divine Comedy, one of the most respected and regarded literary pieces in human history, and EA has reduced its insights and historical contributions into crucifix braining and tasteless taglines like "Go To Hell." Have we really lost our senses of humor to such a degree that we can't appreciate the irony in that? 

It would be like taking Romeo and Juliet, setting it in space, and having Romeo rescue Juliet from a race of giant insects that are plotting to put a pox on both their houses under the rule of Macbeth, who is inexplicably in the story for some reason and also a massive fly. Personally, I'd find that hilarious, although I'm sure some in the literary world would be offended. 

Electronic Arts really isn't doing anything too wrong, or even uncommon. Loosely based intellectual property is fairly standard, and new, dramatic twists on established material is a good thing, not a bad thing. The Divine Comedy is still here, and will still be here after EA's game is released, just as respected as ever, and maybe with a few more people knowing it exists. Let's stop being po-faced about the whole thing and learn to enjoy the sillier things in life. 

Besides which, c'mon. Crucifix. In. The. Head.


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Tdiddy9182's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/28/2009 17:08
Tdiddy9182
I am personally looking forward to playing Dante's Inferno, I'm not expecting it to be Game of the Year but I am betting that it will be fun to play for a few hours.
DinnertimeNinja's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/28/2009 17:08
DinnertimeNinja
*piss*

*moan*

Whatever, no point in bitching about a game we've barely seen anything at all from.
sweetchuck's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/28/2009 17:11
sweetchuck
Hopefully this paves the way for the game version of the book Pride and Prejudice and Zombies.

Also, I'd totally play that Romeo and Juliet game!
Magnalon's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/28/2009 17:13
Magnalon
Whether it's an epic title based off Dante's epic stories, or it's a God of War/DMC clone....


If the game is good, it's good. I don't see all the fuss.
VisMortua's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/28/2009 17:13
VisMortua
"Besides which, c'mon. Crucifix. In. The. Head."

Explains it to a T, no pun intended. =P You're the man, as always Jim.
Half left's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/28/2009 17:19
Half left
Luckily I'm as apathetic as they come.

So...

MEH.
Chronic Logic's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/28/2009 17:27
Chronic Logic
They should make a video game where Jesus dies on the cross and before getting resurrected on the third day, he descends down to Hell and battles the legions of Hell and kicks Satan's ass while he saves all the righteous good souls who died before Jesus could save their sins, and he does this all in the nick of time and saves all the billions of souls all under three days. Much better ya?
Count Grishnack's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/28/2009 17:28
Count Grishnack
Something out of nothing into even more something out of nothing.
EternalDeathSlayer's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/28/2009 17:28
EternalDeathSlayer
I agree Jim, I think it looks like it could be a fun game. Perhaps it won't change your life or enlighten you, but then again how many games really do?

So long as it's well made and fun to play, I'll be interested. I'd love to shove a crucifix in a dude's head.
StrawHatLuffy's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/28/2009 17:29
StrawHatLuffy
It's ironic if someone gets a crucifix shoved in the head right?RIGHT?
XanderSan's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/28/2009 17:33
XanderSan
I don't really care about butchering the soure material (despite the fact that I used butchering rather than a euphamism...?) but what irks me is that it seems completely pointless since we already have God of War/Rygar for your mythological style battlings and Devil May Cry/Bayonetta for your stylish action fun especially where the former is already a loose retelling of La Divina Comedia anyway. (Very loose. Street Fighter IV using a 360 controller loose.)

Unless an action game brings an interesting gameplay concept with it like Gungrave and Shinobi, an original and exciting setting and theme like Genji or Onimusha or just sheer undeniable quality such as Ninja Gaiden or Otogi I don't see much point to it. If they really capitalise on the setting of hell (I'm talking monstrosities beyond Baroque or Shadow Hearts) then I'll be interested but I don't think it's there quite yet...
DaedHead8's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/28/2009 17:35
DaedHead8
I say let the literati complain. After all, gamers are always complaining about this:

JerinsFury's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/28/2009 17:36
JerinsFury
Good read, Jim.

I adore The Divine Comedy, and always love to reread it. But, I can see where people are getting upset with what they are doing with the namesake.

I do not care one bit. The game, from the trailer, looks rather stylish and grotesque. As long as the action is satisfying, I will pick it up.
link331's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/28/2009 17:40
link331
Right.
StrawHatLuffy's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/28/2009 17:40
StrawHatLuffy
@daedhead8
You're right , gamers are a prissy bunch that complains about alot of video game related things by complaining about its relevancy to the source all the bloody time. So you expect others too as well , no?
Samsa's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/28/2009 17:47
Samsa
It appears they've taken the absolute laziest route to make a game out of Inferno. I could be wrong though, maybe it will be chock full of witty satire...though I really doubt it.

Hopefully it will do well enough for Michael Bay to make the movie.
wardrox's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/28/2009 17:48
wardrox
Impressively wrong sir.
Cowzilla3's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/28/2009 17:49
Cowzilla3
Since we know next to nothing about the game I can't really agree or disagree. But as someone who would like to see gaming go beyond mere fun and into works of art and cultural significance I'm desperatley hoping EA mixes both the action they've been showing of and the messages and art in the poem.

I think what I would be most angry about is not that it is an action game, but that it is a missed opportunity to do something different with a creative license. Everything Jim said is true and this happens all the time,that doesn't always mean it should or that EA shouldn't be trying to change it.
NegFactor's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/28/2009 17:56
NegFactor
I liked that Castlevania 2 book when I was younger.
ParaParaKing's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/28/2009 17:57
ParaParaKing
I would buy that Romeo and Juliet game.
Origim's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/28/2009 18:04
Origim
I don't really give a shit about the game or the divine comedy. The Romeo and Juliet in Space game I would play. That or a Merchant of Mars game.
nintendoll's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/28/2009 18:06
nintendoll
Oh, you are so on Jim Sterling. Prepare to be out-argued :D
Tet's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/28/2009 18:08
Tet
Man I can't wait for EA to get the rights for On the Origin of Species, so I can kill monsters, graft their body parts onto my character, and eventually blow up the world.
eternalplayer2345's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/28/2009 18:14
eternalplayer2345
*claps* great article jim.

It's exciting to see literary classics put into game form we need something other than movie and tv show constantly given the same treatment. Also, since books arn't the most popular form of media hopefully developers will take more time with books and not have a big incentive of getting it out there so people will buy solely on the name.
BrickRoadDX's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/28/2009 18:15
BrickRoadDX
I don't really mind that EA is taking the arguably easy (i.e awesome) way out on making this game. What i mind is the fact that it makes a darker, more serious look at the Inferno less likely, and i think that would be awesome-er. It seems like the Inferno has plenty of striking and incrediblly iconic imagery and wickedness built in, and if they just wanted to make a brutal senseless cool popcorn action game (not that there is anything wrong with that) they could have chosen somthing else to base it on, or come up with original ip.
BrickRoadDX's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/28/2009 18:21
BrickRoadDX
I want an artsy fartsy game, damnit!
Half left's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/28/2009 18:26
Half left
At least it has gotten philistines like me interested in the original.
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/28/2009 18:32
Jim Sterling
"Impressively wrong sir."

You WOULD disagree with the argument that we should lighten up.
EternalDeathSlayer's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/28/2009 18:36
EternalDeathSlayer
There's really no argument either way here. I mean, it's a book, and it's respected, but it's not like any of us was the author. So there's nothing being done wrong really.

Also, I highly doubt EA got the rights to the story because they thought it would sell well based on the license. Sounds more like the developers thought it was a good idea to frame a video game around parts of the story and setting.

And what's wrong with that? If you don't like it, then don't play. Just ignore it and move on. Like Jim said, it's certainly not taking anything away from what's already been written, so there's no harm done.

Besides all of this, we have barely seen this game. We have not played it. Shouldn't we be optimistic? Shouldn't we want this game to be good? Yes, we should.

So we should also shut the fuck up and wait until it comes out before passing judgment. Perhaps the naysayers will be surprised, perhaps they'll be right.

But let's just stop arguing over a game that hasn't even been released. It's no better than bashing a game based on the console it's for before you play it.
Professor Pew's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/28/2009 18:36
Professor Pew
Game looks fun. I just wish they wouldn't have called the main character Dante. If you are basing it on mythology created in literary work, just keep it at that. Still, it can't be worse than Jason and the fucking Argonauts with its 15 minutes of action!
manasteel88's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/28/2009 18:39
manasteel88
why does it have to be called "Dante's Inferno"..."Crucifix in the Head" would sell more and it would get more media attention. As we all know more media attention = more game sales
Torquemada's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/28/2009 18:43
Torquemada
I'm too stupid to read a book without pictures so I'll just play this game instead.
lollifier's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/28/2009 18:45
lollifier
Since this was one of the first literary works to include farting ("ed elli avea del cul fatto trombetta." Canto XXI Verso 138), what im really looking forward to is farting demons, don't really care about anything else
:p
Corak's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/28/2009 18:47
Corak
I'm with cowzilla here. I don't mind that they used this source material but what I'm on the fence about is how EA is going to use it. I'll echo what brickroad said that The Inferno has some wicked cool imagery and badassness built into it. And making a generic action game (not that bad a thing) based on such imagery seems lazy especially when EA has the opportunity to make someting truely unique. An action game mixed with the messages of The Inferno is a good start in my book. Time will tell what direction EA is taking, but I'm not that optomistic. I forsee a decent but generic action game with 9 levels, shocker I know, loosely based on The Inferno. To most that will be enough and it could be a good game just in that respect, sounds good enough to me. But others who saw more potential wasted here will continue to shake their heads as a literary masterpiece is drug through the mud.
garrfunkel's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/28/2009 18:59
garrfunkel
Its a cheap method to get publicity for the game. Lets not treat it as anything more than that. EA want people to talk about it and they've succeeded.

The book and the game will have very little in common in the same way that any adaptation to or from video games does.No need to get too worked up about it.
Sharpless's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/28/2009 19:03
Sharpless
Absolutely right. This, in no way whatsoever, damages the original text. It's childish to get offended and up-in-arms about a mere book -- even a famous, well-respected one -- being inaccurately portrayed in video game form. The original is still as awesome as ever -- but now, hey, here's a silly, over-the-top action game to enjoy, if you so desire. No harm, no foul. And given how many movies have butchered video games, I think it's about time that games took a stab back at other forms of entertainment! ;)

Typical lot of Negative Gamers... being negative just for the sake of being negative. ;)
uomoartificiale's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/28/2009 19:26
uomoartificiale
what's wrong with you guys? Inferno is the greatest poem of the medieval worldwide literature for a reason. If you read it (and here in italy we do in school), you know that's plenty of both the lowest and the highest passions of human life mixed together. Ulysses thirst of knowledge (punished as a breach of the human limits) and the infinite sorrow and pain of Count Ugolino, who's forced by the hunger of the imprisonment to eat his dead children (più che l'amor poté la fame / more powerful than love hunger rouse).
So what's the point of EA? maybe actually diminuish the force, the cruelty and definetly the humanity of that epic journey. Smash crucifixes into heads for fun is for pussies, face the miserable face of human life is for heroes...
xColoradoGamerx's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/28/2009 19:31
xColoradoGamerx
Well the reason I don't care if it's the greatest poem of the medieval worldwide lit is because I watched the video and saw a guy killing those who were tormented to the second level of hell (if I remember correctly) with a scythe. Oh and I enjoy a game that is entertaining over a game that sticks to the reading of a poem written by a guilt ridden catholic. :)
uomoartificiale's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/28/2009 19:43
uomoartificiale
guilt ridden catholic??? you don't know what are you talking about, seriously, get a book once in a while and read it. In the poem Dante is a watcher conduced by Virgilio, he does nothing, he can't do nothing, he's actually shitting himself fot he most part of the journey and several times passes out for the mindblowing infernal show!!! what's the connection with this EA crap? They could have named it "Moby Dick by Melville"...
EternalDeathSlayer's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/28/2009 19:46
EternalDeathSlayer
uomoartificiale: What's really sad is that you're getting angry about it, as if you fucking wrote it yourself and somebody just dissed it.

Who cares? Don't play it.
Magesx's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/28/2009 19:47
Magesx
In during trollbait and subsequent trolling.
EternalDeathSlayer's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/28/2009 19:48
EternalDeathSlayer
Also, hurry up with that Killzone 2 review Jim, I'm excited to see the comments devolve into a fanboy warzone!
Necro BABS's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/28/2009 19:48
Necro BABS
I already played this game when it was called God of War, Devil May Cry....Nothing new here folks move right along
wardrox's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/28/2009 19:53
wardrox
@uomoartificiale I agree (with your first comment)

Tbh, I kinda find it sound how some "gamers" commenting here basically have assigned zero value to the literary works. They don;t see it as the basis of a profound game, or even the inspiration for a great game. But rather as the device to destroy in order to make an ok game.

I expect respect for videogames, so I would also expect videogames to respect other works.

Also, anybody using the "zomg stop being cerial it's teh internets"; no. You care about videogames, other people care about literature. Don't be a hypercritical fuckbag.
Faceless's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/28/2009 20:02
Faceless
Ok, I'm not only an English major, but I've also read Dante's inferno of my own accord. I hate to preface what I'm about to say like that because it makes me sound like an elitist douche, but I feel I need to say it. With that out of the way, I'm kind of looking forward to seeing this game in action. What I think a lot of the nay sayers refuse to realize is that part of the attraction of Dante's Inferno is it's imagery. Yes it has great cultural references to the time period it was written, but it's also full of amazing imagery and description.

So when I heard that a game was in development that was inspired by Dante's Inferno, I was genuinely excited. If they change the story around, that won't stop me from possibly enjoying a game with a visual style taken from one of the greatest depictions of hell ever. My only worry is that they may take themselves too seriously with the story and end up with cut scenes that are painful to watch.

And it's not like the release of a shitty videogame adaptation will cause all existing editions of The Divine Comedy to turn to dust.
nintendoll's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/28/2009 20:31
nintendoll
"Knight used this to give a few details on the story, which was supplemented by an early storyboarded introduction that highlighted a few segments of the plot of the game. The game, set somewhere in Italy in 1191, starts with Dante deep within a forest at his campsite as he attempts to return to his home from a Crusade. Dante takes a tapestry, a needle and thread, and strangely sews the tapestry into his skin. The tapestry suddenly seems to come to life in a depiction of savagery and brutality, potentially a result of the sins that Dante committed while he was in battle."

THIS GAME IS GOING TO BE AWESOME GUYS!!!!!

http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/956/956433p2.html

Also, from this it is clear than Knight only has a pretty basic understanding of the text:

"Knight finally got to the story, which he said would fundamentally have the most changes made to create a context for the game action. 'You've got a couple of guys walking through Hell, trying to get to Beatrice eventually and they're talking…a lot. That's pretty much all that happens in the poem. If you've read it, you know that it's not famous for its conflict and drama,' Knight said."

Dante, at no point at all in the poem, says that the point of the journey is to get to Beatrice.

Everyone freaks out when Uwe Boll makes a movie based on classic games, so why is it so out of line for me to freak out a little when EA makes a game out of a classic piece of literature?
Bioautographical's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/28/2009 20:32
Bioautographical
So, after Dante's Inferno comes out, the original work will be banned and no one will be legally allowed to read the original work, being relegated only to playing the new ACTUAL game version, which is now to be considered the "real Dante's Inferno"? Is that about right?

K, just checking.
GamingGoddess's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/28/2009 20:35
GamingGoddess
Dante's Inferno was incredibly subversive in it's time-- furthermore, it was essentially the world's first fan-fiction. Dante wanted classical author Virgil to be his buddy, so he wrote him in as his buddy. He broke all the rules, and got away with it because he happened to be brilliant Any idea that it's this bastion of classicism is wrong.

The game may very well turn out to be crap, but I think the idea that the existence of the game in some way besmirches the 'purity' of the original work shows an ignorance of what the original work was about.

And maybe, some gamers who play the game will be inspired to check out the source material. I'm certainly not going to complain about that.
Bioautographical's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/28/2009 20:43
Bioautographical
What is exactly "respect" for the book? Is it the same concept as "respecting" 9/11 by not making jokes about it, or not making films before a certain time because it's "too soon"? Since when has artistic license ever necessarily been disrespect?

What you're basically saying is that there are certain things that are just completely exempt from being explored or re-created, or modernized, or just basically played with. And to that idea, I say fuck you. Seriously, fuck you. Especially when you've yet to even play a DEMO of the game, fuck you. That kind of thinking is no different from assholes who say that gang violence or prostitution or anything else in games is "off-limits" because it somehow takes gravity away from those very serious issues. And we all know that's not true.

Wipe your fucking nose and get on with it.
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