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Why Nintendo won't remake a Zelda game photo

Remakes are all the rage, so why hasn't Nintendo joined in on all the recycling fun? The Legend of Zelda is a series ripe for rehashing, but Nintendo has refused to give in to temptation. Why is that? The answer is surprisingly noble.

"Whenever we have to think about the remake," says producer Eiji Aonuma. "we have to also think about the background, especially what kind of situation, what kind of period and time that previous game was played in, because, be it Ocarina of Time or any other games, whenever they say they want to have a remake on whichever platform, they have some emotional attachment from playing that game at that particular time or environment.

"We cannot afford to destroy that kind of emotional attachment."

I find that attitude very admirable, and I'm very glad to see that there are some developers out there who respect their own work enough to want to leave it alone. Some games should stay the way they are and remain part of the time they were made for. I wish other developers would exhibit that same level of self respect.








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Electrium's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/02/2009 10:50
Electrium
Wow, that almost made me feel warm inside. The virtual console is nice because then you can revisit old memories, and people who didn't experience them at the time of release don't have to miss out.

As long as there is a legitimate way to play old games, I'll be happy. Much love, Nintendo.
Droll's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/02/2009 10:51
Droll
Except for the fact that every single Zelda game is basically IDENTICAL to the games we've been playing since the 80's.
I'm a huge fan of Zelda, and I understand that this quote is more in reference to the HD remakes of classic games we've seen on downloadable services, but it's still a strange quote from the developer who has been giving us six slightly different versions of Ocarina of Time in the past 11 years.
lolipantsu's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/02/2009 10:52
lolipantsu
The choose not to destroy our emotional attachment to these old games in order to allow themselves to continue bastardizing the franchise on the DS.
Reien's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/02/2009 10:53
Reien
I never thought I'd hear that. Well said Eiji.
silvain's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/02/2009 10:55
silvain
Ok, that's a great answer.

The funny thing is, most of the Nintendo first party games have aged very, very well so I don't really see remakes necessary for any of these games.
HEL105's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/02/2009 10:56
HEL105
A Link to the Past needs no remake. That would be like remaking the Mona Lisa.
Maxxthepenguin's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/02/2009 10:56
Maxxthepenguin
Droll:

Seriously?

SERIOUSLY?

It's a game series, there are bound to be similarities. Seriously.
Nic128's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/02/2009 10:56
Nic128
@lolipantsu
I happen to think the ds zelda games is a great, refreshing formula. Not everybody likes it.
LOLFONDU's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/02/2009 10:58
LOLFONDU
Thinking about this, I have a lot of emotional attachment to all of Nintendo's early games, and none of the current games.

That says something about modern Nintendo. They suck.
Occams electric toothbrush's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/02/2009 10:59
Occams electric toothbrush
@Droll: You are wrong. I can see how you would feel that way, but you are wrong, dawg.

I like the evolution of the Zelda franchise over the years and remakes can be a double-edged sword, especially with a series as important and loved as Zelda.
danthemagnum's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/02/2009 11:00
danthemagnum
@Droll

Not to mention that Ocarina was essentially a 3D-ified version of A Link to The PAst.
Electrium's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/02/2009 11:02
Electrium
@ LOLFONDU - Do you have emotional attachments to any other games, though? I get attached to some RPGs, but I don't even think that counts considering they're kind of designed to do that.
JustLikeBuck's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/02/2009 11:12
JustLikeBuck
Wait... but aren't all Zelda (Like Metroid) games just remakes anyway? They feature the same characters, weapons, level settings, but add one or more of each per iteration.

It's because they're consistently good games that we don't mind playing them over and over. I can't think the amount of times I've played the same Metroid game across different platforms and developers: Super Metroid, Metroid Fusion, Metroid Zero, Metroid Prime - All essentially the same game (though Prime had a new dimension!)

Zelda is more split across the dimensions: Links Awakening, Minish Cap, Phantom Hourglass are pretty much the same with improvements and some new additions. Ocarina of Time and Twilight Princess are pretty much the same with some of Wind-Waker's toys.
Vanilla Gorilla's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/02/2009 11:13
Vanilla Gorilla
Meh. What can you do?

I understand both sides. Though one of them actually includes me buying more Zelda games. Hint: It's not the no-remake side.
Fiat Mediocrity's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/02/2009 11:16
Fiat Mediocrity
We'd rather cashwhore new games than cashwhore a potentially shitty remake and harm our ability to cashwhore in the future?

Word.
Calebyte's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/02/2009 11:18
Calebyte
Wow, so much negativity toward such a noble comment. Someone call the WAAAAAAAmbulance.
ZombiePlatypus's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/02/2009 11:21
ZombiePlatypus
Link's Awakening DX.



Though to be fair, they "DX'd" a bunch of games at the time, and LA had a whole new dungeon and extra tunics. Still a remake though.
carg0's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/02/2009 11:28
carg0
every game in the series has been it's own self-contained title with the same exact premise; bad guy rules land with iron fist or something, Link must deliver ninja side-kick to the sack to save the day. the end.

this formula hasn't changed so what exactly are they supposed to "remake" that (one could argue) Nintendo hasn't already given us for the last several years?

you see where im going with this?
dip's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/02/2009 11:28
dip
"Wait... but aren't all Zelda (Like Metroid) games just remakes anyway? They feature the same characters, weapons, level settings, but add one or more of each per iteration."

You're exaggerating like crazy.
VGFreak1225's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/02/2009 11:32
VGFreak1225
It really is true. Ocarina of Time was relevant because the coming of age story was similar to the time when it came out, many long time Zelda players were nearing maturity. The same thing could be said about many of the games. This is more or less the attitude that developers should approach ALL remakes with.
jasondm300's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/02/2009 11:33
jasondm300
ummm, aren't games like COD 2 and GTA IV, which sold more copies and made more money than I'll ever know why, the same thing as COD 1 and GTA III?
agentgray's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/02/2009 11:43
agentgray
That is a great response, but prove me some pudding when they stop printing money and need to print more.
hermes's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/02/2009 11:43
hermes
So, they don't want to release a remake of a game starred by Link, where he has to find the master sword, rescue Zelda and defeat Gannon because it would be confusing for the other games that are starred by Link, where he has to find the master sword, rescue Zelda and defeat Gannon, but are not remakes?

Ok, got it.
Christophart's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/02/2009 11:44
Christophart
this is why i rarely go back and play games years after. ocarina of time i beat so a couple of times when i was younger, and i have it for gamecube and just really havent touched. because i know it wont be the same. HUGE respect for them realizing the emotional impact their games actually have, kojima san didnt..
GoldenGamerXero's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/02/2009 11:45
GoldenGamerXero
Oh yes EVERY single Zelda game is the same. There's obviously absolutely no differences between a game like Majora's Mask and Twilight Princess.

Ninja In Distress's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/02/2009 11:45
Ninja In Distress
LOL, they've been remaking LoZ for over a decade now. Good one, Big N.
Gameboi's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/02/2009 11:50
Gameboi
I'm all for keeping one's hands off of a classic. Some things are just timeless, and stand on their own merit. The original Zelda is one such case.
MagicAQ's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/02/2009 11:54
MagicAQ
That may just have been enough to tip me over a weird feeling i have had about buying a wii this christmass just to go out on a nostalgia trip...

i may have to start fighting a losing battle against the few things i like about the wii, If monster Hunter Tri comes out before my Finals i can kiss my degree goodbye.
Excel-2011's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/02/2009 11:57
Excel-2011
If I were a developer of any kind, late in my career I would surely like to go back and doll up my earliest releases to bring them up to code with my later works. I don't know if I could maintain that kind of respect for them, no matter how good people said they were.

@ZombiePlatypus:
The DX games were more like updates instead of remakes. Even the ports to the Game Boy Advance can't really be called remakes. In these cases, they aim to preserve the emotional attachments surrounding the original, not build them up from scratch.
MiOdd's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/02/2009 11:59
MiOdd
It is true most classic Nintendo games stand the test of time, nontheless a remake of the orignial NES Zelda in the same fashion as Metroid Zero Mission would be amazing.

That's the only Zelda title I would want remade though because it is very difficult for newcomers to get into, for example didn't that come with a map packaged with the game to point you in the direction of each temple? It's simple design flaws like that that aren't included in the game itself that could use some updating.
shinryu's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/02/2009 12:00
shinryu
In other news, EA won't remake FIFA and Madden games.

Also, Link's Awakening DX.
Also, A Link to the Past GBA.
Knigge's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/02/2009 12:00
Knigge
Droll is right. Pull your heads out of Nintendo's ass.
The Silent Protagonist's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/02/2009 12:00
The Silent Protagonist
@agentgray - Remakes tend to NOT sell as well as the original release.

See: Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes, Resident Evil remake, Persona PSP.

Also, I doubt all the purchased downloads of Super Street Fighter II Turbo HD Remix even come close to matching the quarters that game guzzled down in the arcades back in the day, or even its console iterations on the SNES and Genesis.

Also, there's a difference between a deluxe edition and a remake. A deluxe or special edition just adds stuff, a remake rebuilds the game for new hardware. Zelda: Link's Awakening was still a Game Boy game, adding a few colors and a dungeon did not make it a remake.
John B's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/02/2009 12:03
John B
Droll is wrong. Pull your head out of Droll's ass. :P
mascot1063's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/02/2009 12:05
mascot1063
You see that Square Enix? Stop it. Just stop it.
Calebyte's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/02/2009 12:10
Calebyte
"Also, Link's Awakening DX.
Also, A Link to the Past GBA."

Not remakes, rereleases with some enhancements. A remake entails completely rebuilding a game in the shadow of its source material from the ground up. Also, cocks.
DinnertimeNinja's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/02/2009 12:14
DinnertimeNinja
Eh, while I suppose it's a nice sentiment, I still think it's a BS reason to not remake something.

Creating a remake (a GOOD remake) doesn't spoil the original memory in any way. In fact, good remakes cause you to RELIVE those positive experiences while adding even more memorable experiences to the pile.

I think what they're REALLY trying to say here is, "We can't afford to make it evident that the just about every old game series USED to have archaic controls and badly implemented ideas were passable at the time because people didn't know any better."

I DO think the Zelda series holds up WAY better than most though. Even the original is still completely playable and very enjoyable.
Lockgar's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/02/2009 12:19
Lockgar
I've always found it funny how people claim all the Zelda games are just remakes of the same game. "GAH THEY USED ZELDA AND LINK AGAIN! SAME GAME!" or "GAHH PUZZLES INSIDE OF DUNGEONS ITS THE SAME AGAIN!" "LINK GATZ TEH MASTER SWORDAGAIN SAME GAME!"

Using this logic, any game sequel is basically "the same game." Hell, many games that use the LoZ formula would basically be just "remakes" then.

Reusing characters from prior games? I think that's why it's called a sequel.

Similar Plot elements? S-e-q-u-e-l?

Using the same game play mechanics? Sequel anyone? Man, I so hated how God of War 2 used the Choas Blades again, had those little QTE and had such a fixation on combos. It was basically the same game alllllll over again.

All the levels are different. Many of the items of different, all the dialog is different. Most of the locations are changed. "Their sub type, like fire dungeons and ice mountain, maybe not, but then again, everyone uses those." About how much of the game do you have to change for it to be an actual sequel now a days.
RustyTankard's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/02/2009 12:21
RustyTankard
It is worth noting, of course, that another (more practical, possibly?) reason Nintendo doesn't bother with remakes of Zelda games is because all the Zelda main sequence Zelda games have been released in America since day 1, and it's not quite as profitable to them as say, Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest, many of which the games were never released in America until the remakes. Of course, that doesn't excuse them remaking games that *were* released in America, just saying it's not "apples to apples."
Vermilion's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/02/2009 12:21
Vermilion
Besides some very few exceptions like REmake and MGS: Twin Snakes, I despise the idea of game remakes. If a game gets remade its usually because the original was very good, which means you're remaking a game that's already perfectly fine. Some people might suggest remaking games that sucked or failed to live up to their concept, but I say why not just make a NEW game? Not everything has to be a sequel or a continuation.

Like I said, there are very few exceptions, from what I can tell A boy and his blob is everything the original wanted to be but wasn't, and since that's a very obscure game and doesn't have a large established fanbase to riot over the grand story or mythos it doesn't have, it gets a pass.

Very rarely is it necessary in my book is all I'm saying.
Draconianviper's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/02/2009 12:33
Draconianviper
The remake fairy called...

You guys finish the rest.
shinryu's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/02/2009 12:40
shinryu
Also, Ocarina of Time Master Quest.
Overcrowd's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/02/2009 12:43
Overcrowd
*spirits raised*
MisterGrieves's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/02/2009 12:47
MisterGrieves
Some of these comments... Really? The Zelda games share structural and behavioral similarities as well as characters, but if you're harking on Zelda about its iterative nature, you've got to realize there are hundreds of other franchises out there that provide significantly less original experiences with each release.

Zelda is hardly the poster child of this problem.
thedruproject's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/02/2009 12:59
thedruproject
Technically there was one REAL remake, the BS version of the original LoZ on Satellaview in Japan. Updated SNES quality graphics and a somewhat changed plotline. I'd love to see a proper remake of the original LoZ, though (and maybe The Adventure of Link) with updated graphics and nothing else.
clientkiller's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/02/2009 13:02
clientkiller
Nintendo will never remake a Zelda game because they are all remakes in the first place :D Still great games though
Steel Brotha's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/02/2009 13:09
Steel Brotha
Nintendo will never remake a Zelda Game.


Never...

...Ever
teke367's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/02/2009 13:17
teke367
Virtual Console is enough for most. Nintendo still makes a little money off of it, and anybody who wants can play those old games.

I'd be more up for a collections disk with the games basically in their original format (but multiple games on a disk) for those who don't want to or can't download the games.
Super Drybones's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/02/2009 13:23
Super Drybones
Do a lot of people here not understand the difference between "Remake" and "Rerelease". It's kinda important.
Maxxthepenguin's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/02/2009 13:23
Maxxthepenguin
The only proper remake in the Zelda series has been Link's Awakening DX and even that blurred the line between remake and port. The rest of those are ports or alternate versions. Master Quest was conceived along with Ocarina, it just didn't get released until that GCN disc. It's a "hard mode".
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