Being critical and hating are two seperate things.
I bet you loved Indiana Jones 4 too.
And those Star Wars Prequels are just as good as the first 3, right?
And truly, DMC 2 must be your favorite in the series.
When a company makes something clearly inferior to the amazing standard you set before it, people have the right to call it out for what it is.
But yeah, this whole thing is just silly, we should just unite and fix Final Fantasy XIII... how about that?? or let's put a bomb in James Cameron's back pocket and force him to change Titanic's ending... the fictional character known as DiCaprio aka The Inception Guy needs to live so i can move on with my "real" life.....
Ahem.... Jhon or Jack was it? whatever....
Also, I'm using the term "grokked" because nothing else fits. Google it if you must, better yet, read Stranger in a Strange Land. It's so good you guys.
my stance is it's a videogame. You bought it knowing full well you couldn't get your money back anyway. done with it? shut up and go buy another one. little bitches, all of them.
Pretty simple, there. You're okay with the ending, a lot of people aren't. I don't disagree with the pro-'bleak' point, or the point about the Stargazer, to the point that I fully agree with them. The only real one I would contest is the point about closure.
Right now, I don't know if my Shepard is alive or dead, if any of my allies are alive, if Earth is or isn't destroyed, if the Reapers are dead or if any of my actions mattered at any point. I have absolutely no idea regarding these things.
Sure, genophage is cured, woo. Geth/Quarians are living happily together and creating a better homeworld, super. Both of these were incredibly satisfying climaxes which I loved getting to the centre of, even if they do make the idea of further ME games awkward. These conclusions, however, just ended up building up my expectations of the ending, only to be let down. BioWare ~can~ do better, that's my main problem with it.
Of course, they don't have to change a thing if they don't want to. It's entirely up to them what taste they want to leave in the fans mouths. All signs seem to be pointing to them changing it, which would be great and might help quell the hate.
But, as it stands, the ending has proven to be incredibly polarizing, with a majority of people hating it overall. I loved every moment of the series, even loved playing through the ending until it dawned on me just how little certainty there was in the 'big finale' of the trilogy.
The sad truth is, Mass Effect haters need to calm down because they're making asses of themselves and detracting from their own argument, no matter how valid a point/opinion they may have.
Mass Effect 1, you choose what you'll do with the fifth fleet then Saren reanimates, you kill him then you get to choose who you want to be Councillor.
Mass Effect 2, you choose whether yo keep the Collector Base then you fight the proto-reaper. You kill it, see that you saved who you saved, you have Harbingers Schematics then you get to tell the Illusive Man where he can stick it, and then further than that you get to converse with your crew.
In Mass Effect 3 however by cotrast you make your choice and that's it. Nothing else happens. You see the reapers get dealt with, the relays explode and the Normandy crash and you get absolutely no feeling that you changed anything for anyone's betterment.
Several Billion members of 7 different species are stranded at a now charred husk of what once was Earth. Best case scenario everyone but the Turians and the Quarians die because at least the Quarians have the life ships. Worst case scenario their fitting the life ships with Thanix cannons means that their previous capability to produce enough food for the flotilla is gone, and they die along with everyone else. The Asari, Turians and Salarians might be able to make it back to their homes if they can survive the at least several year long journey with standard FTL and don't run out of fuel along the way.
Any colony that relied heavily on the supplies funneled through the relays(and there were very many of them) are going to die a slow painful death. And apparently in spite of our best efforts the intergalactic community is crippled for at least as long as it takes for Shepard's story to fall into nothing but mythos, which means that any chance of a rescue attempt for the maybe 30 crewmen aboard the Normandy is gone, so they're as good as dead or inbred to extinction within a few generations.
So tell me, why exactly is it wrong for me to hate the endings?
Props for avoiding any of the actual issues, such as the MASSIVE PLOT HOLES THAT COMPLETELY OVERSHADOW EVERYTHING ELSE IN THE ENTIRE GAME.
People would have been fine with a bleak ending as long as it actually made sense and you had some control over it other than picking one of the choices Deus Ex gave us 10 years ago.
YOU BRIBED BY EA
fucking hell when did ME fans become so retarded
I'm not one of the complainers, but I still think there are a shit ton of plot holes and logical conclusions that invalidate a lot of ME3's ending in my eyes. I'm irritated not by what it is, but by what it could have been. ME3 could have easily gone down as one of the finest pieces of science fiction ever created in the past 10-20 years. With that ending though, ME3 will only be remembered in infamy.
But that's just my opinion.
Again, I get the idea, it's just horribly executed when you think of it realistically.
Really? Like, really? It isn't closure. if anything it opens up way more questions. The cycle is broken? So? I don't even know where to start.
Ok, for one, I see nothing explaining how there's actual closure in the ending. For 1, what happens to earth, considering it, along with most major planets, relied on other colonies built on other planets to specifically grow and produce food which is then transported via Mass Relays.
Number 2, the whole space armada you gathered. For one, Earth is in absolute shit right now with no real resources and on top of that this giant fleet made of multiple species and the Turian leader as well as the Krogans. And probably Quarien too. Now a few of these races can't eat what we eat at all. So the Turians will starve to death along some other races left stranded.
Oh, but they could fly home. Nope. There's a reason they needed Mass Relays and it wasn't just a case of being practical. With Relays, a journey can take anything from decades to centuries with just FTL. Now they obviously don't have the resources for that to say the least.
To add on top of that, FTL builds up a static electric charge pretty quick and faster depending on the cores size. The Citadel and other major planets have discharging stations to safely discharge the excess static. If you don't discharge this excess energy, it eventually discharge into the ships hull. The heat from this will fry everything inside, electronics and people.
Which makes FTL over long distances pretty difficult to say the least.
Then there's the Citadel blowing up right above Earth. Does anyone realize what something of that size crashing down on earth would do. We're talking civilization ending stuff here.
But the Grampa and little boy? Well considering that aint Earth, doesn't say much for Earth now does it. But again, no actual closure so we have no fucking clue.
And then the real issue people have with the lack of closure, you team. What happened to them? How did my team get back on the Normandy? Why the hell did the Normandy run away on me? Where are they? Will Tali and Garrus even survive on a planet they may now have food edible for them? Or vice versa? Will they be recused? Can they be rescued without any Relays? Yeah, closure. I can feel it all around me.
"In Mass Effect 2, you have only two options. Destroy the Collector Base or preserve it, but either way it is the EXACT same cutscene that plays at the end. Weird."
And then in Mass Effect 3, we get to see the characters we had survive play come up in ME3 in either huge roles or smaller scenes. The effects of your choices carry through. The collector base? A cop out to some degree but we still get references to what we did, what TIM says to you later and all that.
Big thing to take into account, ME2 wasn't the end of the trilogy, it was the middle man of the whole thing. No one was expecting huge game changing consequences at the end simply because we knew there was another game coming and that game had to rely on the idea that nothing too huge happened that would result in splitting a game up completely to meet all the potential scenarios. ME3 didn't have to worry about any of this with its ending.
I could go on and on. Honestly, there isn't much in this article that actually takes the complaints detailed out there into much account. I'm hearing a lot of what makes ME3 great, but not much about the actual ending itself.
Some thingI have noticed and the apologist is their ability to avoid the actual issue and try and win their argument by attacking other issues.
Take "The ending is far too bleak!"
I have never seen anyone make this point. I don't deny that someone has, but it clearly isn't a point worth tackling.
I think the Dtoid editors don't realize there are 2 different groups of fans that have ending issues. I don't care if it's bleak as hell or what my galactic readiness does as long as it makes sense.
I look at this ending the same way as the latest Mass Effect novel that was full of inconsistencies and plot holes. Bioware said they would be fixing all of those holes in later publications of the book so why can't they fix the game the same way?
My main problem with most of the detractors of the ending is how hyperbolic and definitive their are about their opinions. "Nothing makes any sense!" they say, trying to articulate their frustration as though they can't just dislike the ending - it has to be objectively bad, for everyone. See how much hate you're getting for saying you liked it and suggesting that people who hated it should tone it down? It's insane that people should react so negatively to anyone enjoying how the series ended, like myself.
And I really wish the people who hate the ending were more reasonable, that their position was better explained, or was more convincing in general. I read the 20 page "Logical Breakdown of Why the Mass Effect 3 Ending Makes No Sense," because I wanted to see where these people are coming from. Instead of coming up with one very sound complaint that expressed how the ending was personally disappointing, they had to write a hundred complaints that range from weak to irrelevant to actually being wrong. It felt like an imitation of RedLetterMedia's Star Wars Reviews, but missing the point that the hypercritical, nit-picking style of those were meant as comedy and to parody people who would write a 20 page breakdown of a video game's ending. It wasn't "Logical", sorry. That's overcompensation in your title.
(Wrote Too Much)
Being treated like a spoiled troll by a clueless blogger for caring about a story enough to fight for a proper conclusion.
True, there is a small, vocal group that really is nothing but trolls and idiots. But there is a much larger group that has been civil and wanting to engage in logical and calm discussions from the very beginning. Like Casey Hudson said, the entire ME series has been influenced by fan's ideas, so why exactly should the end be any different.
I'm just sick and tired of bloggers trying to score some brownie points with EA/Bioware by constantly defending everything they do and say.
That said, these whiners need to stop. It's beyond ridiculous.

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