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Why can't Sonic Team make a good game? Rediscovered revelations give sad insight photo

Back in 2006, a man was blogging about the problems of Sega while nobody batted an eyelid. His name, though unknown at the time, was Ben Andac, and he worked as a game evaluator and Admissions and Recruitment Executive for both Sega Europe and Sony Computer Entertainment Europe.

His words were written anonymously and on an inconspicuous blog, but the posts all vanished after an early, teasing reference to a "transforming Evil 'Night' Sonic who looks like a werewolf and can stretch his arms out Dhalsim-style." This was over a year before anybody had known a thing about the famous Werehog. Andac was trying to warn us, and nobody listened. 

So why bring it up now? Well, some Internet detectives have taken it upon themselves to find the long-deleted blog entries that Andac wrote anonymously, and they reveal some incredibly telling things about Sega of Japan. Like, for example, that Sonic Team was working on a NiGHTS game for the Xbox 360, until Sega of Japan wanted to cash-in on the Wii's success and forced the studio to rebuild the entire project from the ground up in under a year without any budget increase whatsoever. 

Even worse is the description of Sonic Team as little more than a "sweatshop," kept on a leash as an external Sega studio and forced to do little more than assembly line work and milk the Sonic cash cow. "There’s no doubt that Sonic Team have lost their quality touch," wrote Andac in 2007. "They are worse than talentless: they are without passion. Bored, weary, closed-minded and out of touch with any sense of what makes games good anymore."

I have spent a good deal of time assaulting Sonic Team for their many past failings, pointing out how occassional Sonic developer Dimps seems to make a better game. If even a fragment of what Andac told the world is true, then this explains everything. And I feel pretty damn sad about it.








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R3Y GUTI3RR3Z's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2009 11:02
R3Y GUTI3RR3Z
Why! Why! Stop it.. please stop. This will only make me dance naked to Sonic Boom off of Sonic CD. Why bring back happy memories of my old adventures with the blue hedgehog. Sterling... its over.. Sonic is no more.
Jonathan Holmes's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2009 11:04
Jonathan Holmes
Am I the only one who like NiGHTs on the Wii?

It's not a great game, but it's at least a 6/10.
2dsonicfan91's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2009 11:10
2dsonicfan91
So then there is little to no hope for a good Sonic Team Sonic game, if what he says is true...

The truth hurts...
bobyoko's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2009 11:13
bobyoko
they should shop the sonic fanchise out to a different developer. it's obvious that the fanchise doesn't make $ like it used to. also, fuck sega for releasing inferior products.
pd771's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2009 11:15
pd771
Still doesn't explain why the promote crappy Sonic games like crazy while not giving good games (like Valkyria Chronicles) any real promotion.
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2009 11:15
Jim Sterling
Dimps deserves the right to develop Sonic games more than Sonic Team. Sonic Advance was the last truly great Sonic game, Sonic Rush was decent and I hear the Wii version of Unleashed was pretty solid. All of these are from Dimps.

It's a solid studio, and it understands Sonic better than Sonic Team ever will.
munkee's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2009 11:16
munkee
no way.. thats pretty sad news really. I feel sorry for the sonic team individuals who probably had dreams of working on ground breaking, fan loving titles and had a passion for video games. but, have now ended up as robots on a production line. shame :(
Tron's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2009 11:18
Tron
the best way to end this madness is to vote with your wallet and not buy sonic games. I'm sure that if enough people stop buying this trash, Sega will have to stop making sonic games.
Demtor's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2009 11:21
Demtor
Sega, discovering new ways to kill fun? INNOVATION!!!
Rider Chop's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2009 11:25
Rider Chop
All this time I thought Sonic Team were the ones to blame, if anything Sega is the guilty party here. They need to sit down with the head of Sonic Team and just say "what do YOU want to make?" and then run with it. Let them have more creative input, a new IP, a new Phantasy Star, a new anything! I read about this story on another forum and the situation involving Nights is such a dick move on Sega's part.
Also, Werehog, good practice run for a new Ristar?
now that game kicked some serious ass.
michiyoyoshiku's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2009 11:25
michiyoyoshiku
Play more unleashed and STFU...just not the warehog stages
Wexx's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2009 11:30
Wexx
Poor Sonic team. Sounds like they could use a reboot of some kind, be it getting some new talent or taking a break.

Holmes: I've been meaning to play it. Maybe that'll be the next game I pick up after I beat a good portion of what's in my backlog.
Mr Gilder's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2009 11:35
Mr Gilder
Truly a sad state of affairs. I remember booting up the original Nights on Saturn, and that adorable voice would state "Sonic Team" in a way that has never been matched. It still gives me goosebumps. Back in the day, that meant something.
MiOdd's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2009 11:35
MiOdd
=(
gamadaya's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2009 11:44
gamadaya
So basically Sonic is dead. I hate the little bastard, so I'm happy, but I don't get why everyone isn't. If Mario is ever reduced to such a state, I only wish that his death is swift and painless, and doesn't drag on for a decade like Sonic's. Sometimes you just have to let go.
pascuz46's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2009 12:02
pascuz46
Weather it is sonic team or Dimps who makes the next Sonic game, the ONLY way that they can revive sonic is do exactly what CAPCOM did with Bionic Commando. I would love to see Sonic 2 in nice HD 3d models but still keeping that 2d side scrolling gameplay. Wouldn't that be great? And it can be released on XBLA or PSN or PC or Wii Ware. If they redid the entire Genesis trilogy in the way I described then I think people will buy it. I would. Stay the hell away from 3D sonic games! They only good one was sonic adventure for DC. And another thing Fuckin release sonic Adventure for PSN!
Aaron Mxy Yost's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2009 12:03
Aaron Mxy Yost
Wow, this is some depressing matlockery.
Phoenix Gamma's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2009 12:05
Phoenix Gamma
Give Sonic to Treasure. Have them make a crazy-fast Sonic game. Then put SEGA to sleep and be done with it.
Swizzler121's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2009 12:08
Swizzler121
GREAT READ!
I miss the good sonic team (lets build a time machine and save them!)

I'm glad one blog still reports gaming news, not like kotaku who is all of a sudden like; "furries are cool man, you should try it..."
Origim's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2009 12:10
Origim
It's amazing how easily people are willing to whore out good franchise's. Sonic still has life in him if the right dev team is in charge.
mistic's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2009 12:17
mistic
I think ID-Software could make a great sonic game :-)

this blog explains a LOT though...
SonicTHP's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2009 12:23
SonicTHP
People live in some fantasy land where good Sonic games are some sort of mythical and unachievable feat. Here in the real world, we have just been given Sonic Unleashed which is not given the credit it deserves, in the media or just the general gaming community. The game is solid no matter where you play it, but it is most amazing that people are willing to complain about what they think about what it should be rather than the good it is doing now.

I love Sonic games, but I hate Sonic fans.
Zcdrike's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2009 12:26
Zcdrike
@ Jonathan
I enjoyed it too, but that may have something to do with the fact I never owned a Sega system.
Midgetsnowman's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2009 12:46
Midgetsnowman
Well, this'd explain a lot.
I mean. the first few sonic games had their problems, but you could at least tell with sonic adventure 1/2 that Sonic Team was trying their hardest. Their recent efforts do seem to carry more of a "why the hell are we still doing this shit" flair.
SephirothX's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2009 13:00
SephirothX
@ SonicTHP
A "solid" game and a "good" game are not the same thing. Just because its a solid game doesnt mean it has quality or is good. I could make a very solid 360 version of 'Guess Who' but does that mean it will be a good game that will be remembered? No!

Sonic Unleashed was mediocre at its very best, the Sonic franchise died after Sonic Adventure.
gamadaya's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2009 13:02
gamadaya
@Phoenix Gamma: Fuck yes. Never mind what I said. In fact, I think that strategy can be applied to any failing franchise. Just give it to Treasure, and let them work their magic.
Jonathan Holmes's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2009 13:10
Jonathan Holmes
Its nice to hear that not everyone thought NiGHTS 2 total sucked.

And I second the plan to give Sonic to Treasure. It would also be cool to see what what Platinum could do with the character. Viewtiful Joe + Sonic could be awesome.
Anviltongue's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2009 13:29
Anviltongue
Damn, that sucks for Team Sonic. The brass at Sega sounds like they need a pull-your-head-outta-your-ass-ectomy.

Of course, they are still making money of the bloated corpse of the hedgehog, so maybe it would be best for Team Sonic to just up and quit. They would get a rest (maybe start a new studio?) and Sega could screw over some other team that might bring some new ideas before their optimism and love for games dies a horrible, painful, yet unavoidable death.

It's a win-win!
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2009 13:45
Holyetheline
They need to re-build the Sonic Team then.
Muddy Waterz's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2009 14:29
Muddy Waterz
Thanks for posting this Jim. Poor Sonic team :(.
CypherVR's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2009 15:35
CypherVR
I see that my news tip went through ^_^
Clbull's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2009 17:39
Clbull
To be honest, Sonic Adventure was quite good but Sonic Adventure 2 was awesome. Sonic Heroes was quite mediocre and it had some bad controls (overresponsive) and camera issues too.

Sonic The Hedgehog (2006) was awful in my honest opinion. I died a lot due to bugs in the game or the level design, and even then I despised the town sections because doing a challenge puts you through TWO loading screens just to start doing the challenge.

Sonic Unleashed was not bad, but it certainly had flaws like sometimes tedious level design and bad controls (e.g. Rooftop Run Act 2 when you had to collect all the Chao like a platforming level rather than a race to the end level)
Bob Muir's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2009 20:40
Bob Muir
A sweatshop environment sounds about right. I see no creativity exhibited in these latest games, just some decisions made by marketing higher-ups and carried out by people with no say in the matter.
ultimateshoops's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2009 10:48
ultimateshoops
Enough negativty.

If Dimps developed the wii version of Sonic Unleashed. Then that means that they may be making more 3-D Sonic games in the future, so they may get the quality games going again.Who knows.
Also, with the right motivation, and ideas, possibly from the original creator, then maybe Sonic Team could make a new good game.

I say, expose this article, so that Sega in JAPAN and so that japanese people /members of Sega become aware, then they may shape up!

Still, the chances of any of this is slim.
Snoopbob2006's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/15/2009 08:07
Snoopbob2006
Shenmue III is the only game that could make me respect SEGA again...
Verol's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/17/2009 18:55
Verol
I liked NiGHTS 2, but I got to say the Xbox 360 version would have probably been leagues better.

Not because the 360 is better, but I doubt it would have been so Disney-androgynous-NiGHTS.
FalconReaper's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/17/2009 19:11
FalconReaper
Personally I think that Dimps should Take over making Sonic Games. So far they have a good track record, just lok at the sonic advance game, both sonic rushes, hell, Capcom contracted them to help co-develop the PS3/360 versions of Street Fighter 4, now that is talent in my opinion
HeavyD's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/28/2009 22:16
HeavyD
Fuck. All of that is very sad. If I could shed a tear, I would.
kalfhekulra86's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/14/2011 17:52
kalfhekulra86
Lucy, Lucy, my poor little god-sister (if there be such a buy diabecon
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