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The answer to the question of Blizzard taking Diablo III to a console is mired in a bit of a mess right now. CVG is reporting on an interview with Blizzard’s COO Paul Sams and The Guardian about a release on either the PS3 or the Xbox 360, and the answer is unclear.

When asked directly, Sams replied fairly shakily.

I don’t know yet. A lot of it depends on whether we think the gameplay experience will be the same on console, especially regarding the controls. Also I'd like to keep our audience together.
Sams then went on to comment on the give and take that developers face when porting a game onto a console.
When you are developing for multiple platforms you sometimes have to compromise. We aren't willing to compromise. We have relationships with all the console manufacturers. I know they would love to have us on their platforms, ideally on their own and not their competitor! But it's all about the game experience.
For quick reference on the whole matter, I got out my copy of Baldur’s Gate: Dark Alliance and rapidly starting killing rats in a cellar. I can now personally confirm that Diablo III’s action will translate to a console. For future review, I think I will try running across the city map in GTA IV. I assume that hitting the “A” button that many times in succession is bound to give me an even better idea of the Diablo III experience.

Doesn’t this just seem like Blizzard is trying to be inclusive for the sake of it? I can certainly understand how it would be troubling to port a game designed specifically for the mouse and keyboard, but many developers have succeeded in this regard. Furthermore, I find it laughable that Blizzard is probably going to be willing to take the time to make Diablo III Macintosh compatible, but the idea of going to a console is just too silly.

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pedrovay2003's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2008 12:04
pedrovay2003
I'm sure I'll sound like a fanboy when I say this, but I believe every single game that is controlled with a keyboard and mouse can work on the PS3, thanks to the native keyboard/mouse support the system has. That is all.
killias2's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2008 12:06
killias2
Okay, so Blizzard, which has made gabillions on the PC and is known as THE PC gaming developer, not making crappy console ports (see ports of Diablo, Warcraft 2, Starcraft) is insane, but it's perfectly acceptable for Resident Evil 5 (a FP game.. which was traditionally the realm of PC's) to stay a console exclusive?

Methinkst someone is a console gamer.
Crunshii's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2008 12:21
Crunshii
BLIZZZAAAAARDDD HEAARRR USSSS!!! RELEASE THIS ON THE PS3 SO I DONT HAVE TO DISH MORE $$$ ON MY PC FOR BEST SETTINGS!!

/endrant
Josh Tolentino's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2008 12:22
Josh Tolentino
It's only silly if you put on your blinders and pretend the PC isn't THE market to be in if you're Blizzard. Mac users LURV Blizzard for actually paying attention to them. I wouldn't be surprised to see a 2nd-hand console port of D3, but everything previously (the Diablo, Warcraft, and Starcraft ports) have been laughably bad.

Until Blizzard decides to thaw out Starcraft:Ghost, console-only gamers can shiver in the cold while the rest of us go to Hell (in a good way).
dtomek's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2008 12:22
dtomek
Resident Evil is traditionally a PC title since when? That 5 at the end of the title denotes that it is not the first in a series...
Anyways, Ascaron seems to think that the gameplay will translate just fine to the consoles. I guess if Ascaron pulls off Sacred2 on the 360 I'll be plenty happy. Sacred1 did enough right for me to enjoy it more than Diablo2 so it aught to keep me good to go when it releases.
king3vbo's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2008 12:29
king3vbo
1) Blizzard has made every single one of their games Mac compatible. I remember buying Warcraft 2 the day it came out at Electronics Boutique, and it was the only Mac compatible software in the store.

2) I'm more than happy to see a console port, more people enjoying Diablo 3 that way... but Blizzard wont do the port. Blizzard themselves is a PC only developer, and in the past, their ports have all been farmed out
moocow21's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2008 12:30
moocow21
I wouldn't mind it being ported over to consoles later on, but I just want Blizz putting all their talent into making Diablo 3 as awesome as possible and getting it out as soon as possible on PC.
Comrade Snarky's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2008 12:31
Comrade Snarky
Remind me again how many copies Resident Evil 4 for PC sold?

Anyway, Diablo III would sell a bajillion copies on consoles, so I can't imagine Blizzard not pursuing it. I'm sure there are a number of design hurdles, but come on...this is Diablo, not Stacraft.
bargle 20x6's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2008 12:32
bargle 20x6
I find it less laughable that Blizzard wants to support the Mac platform. I have a feeling that they make pretty good money on the die-hard Mac people who want to reciprocate the love, as well as Multi-Platform users (i.e., the kind of people who have something like both a Powerbook and a Desktop PC).

-- Posted from a Mac that runs WOW just fine.
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2008 12:38
Tubatic
I think Diablo lends itself to a console port more than any other game. RTS (the 'craft games) needs mouse and keyboard for total control, and an MMO just has too many hotkeys to strain onto a controller.

But if you're talking about a dungeon crawl experience like Diablo (I'm sorry, but isn't it just Gauntlet with mad skills and specialized gear??), It makes alot of sense to me to just make a console port. Most systems have enough buttons for a nice set of core action skills.

Also worth considering. For some people, these consoles are pushing more pixels and textures than their home computers, which wasn't the case a few years back. Graphic processing on most consoles now are on par with the PC. So I think that's another part of the perceived clamor for console ports of everything.
Swizzler121's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2008 12:42
Swizzler121
I think what they're trying to say is, if they bring it to consoles, they're going to bring it to ALL consoles, and the wii probably won't be able to allow that with the havok engine and all... so in other words, blizzard says no.
killias2's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2008 12:43
killias2
I never said RE was a traditionally PC series, although I will point out that every main series release (RE 1, 2, 3, and 4) was ported to the PC. I was just bringing up a counter example.

At the end of the day, I just get mad when every few days some story comes out "OMG PC GAMING IS DEAD," but, when the premier PC gaming developer announces a major game, people complain that it doesn't get ported to console.

Screw that. Screw 360 and PS3. Stick with your guns Blizzard. Your fans are legion.
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2008 12:47
Tubatic
re:swizzler Take Two is working on bringing Havok to the Wii for Carnival games . . . so its possible tech wise, I reckon.
AgentD's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2008 12:48
AgentD
"Furthermore, I find it laughable that Blizzard is probably going to be willing to take the time to make Diablo III Macintosh compatible, but the idea of going to a console is just to silly. "

What a ridiculous thing to say. Its about translating mouse+keyboard action to a gamepad along with maintaining compatibility on different operating systems and hardware, in the case of consoles; in the case of the mac the only change is in the OS. Apples and oranges. Actually, to be totally accurate its apples vs oranges and apples. But I guess that's a less compelling saying.


Every play an RTS on a console? Doesn't translate so easily, does it? I had an N64 C&C, which was pretty cool but playing it was a totally different experience, because pointing and clicking was now a significant overhead.

Console games with pointers don't work, period*. Taking a game with a pointer and turning it into a game where action takes place relative to your character changes the game. I don't see how you could disagree with that.

*Wii-exceptions aside.
Jetsetlemming's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2008 12:50
Jetsetlemming
RE4 sold like shit because it was a shit port. Every main series Resident Evil game has been on the PC up to this point, and Capcom has announced plans to attempt PC ports, specifically with DMC4 and Street Fighter 4, so I don't see any possible reason for RE5 NOT to hit PC. It would be retarded not to.

As simple as Diablo may appear... it's a mouse based game. How are you going to click on specific loot on the ground, manage your inventory, target ranged spells and attacks, etc. with an analog stick and still make it accurate and comfortable?
Blizzard has absolutely no motive to bother with a console port. The PC version will sell like hotcakes, just like Blizzard games always do, I'd imagine the console port would be lacking due to the mouse issue, so it wouldn't be recieved as well, and porting D3 to a console would have hte same reaction from their harcore PC fanboys (of which there are a fair ton) that you'd get from PS3 fanboys if Konami announced a 360 port of MGS4.
Being catered to specifically being cared for, is a nice feeling. Fans hate to lose that spotlight attention.
Demtor's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2008 13:08
Demtor
Blizzard will make millions no matter what they choose to do, which I'm guessing is stick with the PC. Until their games stop producing sales numbers on PCs, I don't expect to see any change from them any time soon. All for the better imo. Their games are some of the best PC games you could ever ask for, and by the looks of it they intend to keep it that way.

At the risk of stoking up the old "Console vs PC" embers I have to ask, has Capcom ever made a PC port of a game even worth playing?
Blue Ryd3r's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2008 13:25
Blue Ryd3r
I should point out that the original Diablo came out for PS1. I had a shitty computers back then and that was the only way I got to play it. No Online mulitiplayer but you could play 2 player. Control was a matter of give and take. I found it easy to move around and the game did a real good job of auto-targeting your bows and spells.
Downside, it was hard to blast barrels from a distance with spells (I think it was impossable actually like your Fireball or your arrow just flew over them)

In any case, they have released Diablo on a console before.
Narishma's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2008 13:28
Narishma
Demtor: Yes all the REs before 4, a bunch of street fighter games, recent ones like lost planet and dmc4. Actually now that I think about it, the only poor ports are those of PS2 games (dmc3, re4)...
Misanthrope's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2008 13:36
Misanthrope
Do a PS3 port and allow keyboard+mouse. Honestly if console gamers can get enough accuracy to play FPS they can get enough accuracy to play Diablo at least on Easy or Normal.
funran's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2008 13:38
funran
I think that it's better that it stays on PC. I've always considered myself a PC gamer, but the past few years (at the dawn of HD gaming / fully functional online gaming) the PC market has started to drivel down into just MMO's and a random FPS port. I think with big PC devs like Blizzard/ Valve, they have a responsibility to save PC gaming, or take it off of MMO life support. How? Well the big MMO super hit,WoW is one of the most popular PC games out there, and one of the main reasons it can hit so many billions of subscribers is because it isn't demanding on PC requirements, thus halting the upgrading of average users computers....they dont want to upgrade because the only game they have runs fine. Games like Starcraft II, and Diablo III which will surely only make a PC release, will be very demanding graphically and force many old PC gamers out of retirement and reconsidering upgrading their PCs. Blizzard has the numbers, and the fanboys to single handedly bring back PC gaming as the major competitor that it once was. Once people cave into a new graphics card and some more RAM so they can play Diablo III, they will have the PC power to be able to play other new PC games that are yet to be released, which will encourage dev's to keep pushing the limits on graphics and gameplay for PC users. Hopefully creating a larger gaming fanbase for PC users, that includes games that are not MMO's.
AgentD's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2008 13:45
AgentD
Misanthrope:

Have you ever tried it? Its really two totally different things. Console controls are not precise. That's just their nature.
freker's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2008 13:47
freker
You forgot to put 'Not 360 compatible too' in the topic pic.
Bacchus's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2008 13:49
Bacchus
if they want me to buy it, they have to release it on a console
AaronLindes Neighbor's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2008 13:58
AaronLindes Neighbor
If no console port, please make it compatible with oldish Mac integrated memory graphx. GMA 950 support please! Mac is still selling Mini's with this as the only graphx option possible. Don't do a spore!
killias2's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2008 14:00
killias2
"I should point out that the original Diablo came out for PS1."

I mentioned that in one of my posts. Warcraft 2 and Starcraft were also ported to consoles. All three were failures.
Misanthrope's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2008 14:02
Misanthrope
Im not advocating console controls, I know FPS games suck on consoles and diablo would be lousy as well with the current scheme just like RTS games on consoles. But what I am saying is that console gamers are used to that handicap it seems so more power to them, you can offer the OPTION to use mouse on the PS3 like in Unreal Tournament 3.
Velt's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2008 14:08
Velt
Seems that editors in this site really dont digg pc gaming.
http://www.destructoid.com/diablo-becomes-an-amazon-top-seller-93214.phtml#comment

you can tell that only looking at those sarcastic pc gaming comments.
Solivagant's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2008 14:21
Solivagant
Keeping it to PC is good for several reasons, like breathing some life into PC gaming. Also, it allows them to focus on how to translate their visionary ideas into one specific game for a specific platform. That way they don't need to worry about what game features they'll need to remove, in what way should they degrade the game complexity so they don't confuse the poor console players, or how will they use their shortcuts and their hotbars with a gamepad (actually, two gamepads, or three, if you consider the Wii).

Keep it simple, keep it PC.
Respectable Gentleman's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2008 14:35
Respectable Gentleman
Why is everyone pushing for a PS3 release? I don't have one of those. Apparently there is no keyboard and mouse support for the 360? Couldn't they work something out? Even if it were a special keyboard blizzard makes specifically for the 360 I would buy it. At a hoy proice.
Misanthrope's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2008 14:37
Misanthrope
How does this breaths new life into PC gaming exactly? No succesfull PC game right now has any new elements or innovation and are instead retellings of games that came 10 or 15 years ago. I mean you guys named it: Half life and valve = Same old FPS. WoW = Has been the same thing since Ultima online and before. Diablo 3 = Visual upgrade to the original Diablo. I could go on like that for a while.

Keeping the same games means keep appealing to the same audience, which means PC gaming is NOT expanding to new audiences ( outside of flash games ) which means its dying
Misanthrope's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2008 14:49
Misanthrope
@Respectable Gentleman: Probably because the PS3 already has 1 game, UT3, with mouse/keyboard support and the 360 does not. So it might be easier
killias2's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2008 14:50
killias2
@ Misanthrope
Yeah, that's so much different from the consoles.

Highest selling Wii games (besides Wii Sports, which comes with the console, and Wii Play, which comes with a Wiimote):

Super Mario Galaxy
Mario Kart Wii
Smash Brothers Brawl
Mario Party 8
Wii Fit
Zelda

PS3:
Grand Theft Auto 4
Motorstorm
Call of Duty 4
Resistance
Assassin's Creed
Metal Gear Solid 4
Grand Turismo 5

360:
Halo 3
Call of Duty 4
Grand Theft Auto 4
Gears of War
Forza Motorsport 2
Assassins' Creed
Guitar Hero 3
Elder Scrolls 4

How many of these are sequels or rehashes of old products? How many also came out for the PC? The remainder: Motorstorm (a racing game..), Resistance (a mediocre shooter), and Forza Motorsport 2 (another racing game). Hardly a groundswell of successful innovation if you ask me....

Besides, ever hear of Europa Universalis or the other crazy-ass Paradox strategy games? Their shit makes Risk look like checkers!
Respectable Gentleman's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2008 14:51
Respectable Gentleman
@Misanthrope

Thanks for the buzz kill Buzz Killington.
AgentD's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2008 14:54
AgentD
@Misanthrope:

What killias said. I'm not going to have anyone claiming that consoles are revolutionizing the gaming world.
Knives's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2008 15:00
Knives
I bet spacecat knows!
B-Radicate's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2008 15:02
B-Radicate
I would buy this for 360 just so I could play it on my projector screen. 7ft (my screen) > 19in (my monitor).
Misanthrope's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2008 15:09
Misanthrope
Hey im glad there are games that are not 360 ports comming on the PC alright, as a fan of the oldschool era from the D&D box games till the Baldur's Gate and infinity engine it saddens me to see the PC in such a sorry state. But I can tell you this: I won't be upgrading my PC ( Sempron 2800, 784 ram and 7600gt video ) to purchase another upgrade to diablo 1. I'll gladly play it if its playable on my current system but there is just no motivation to get into PC gaming anymore.

</grinch>
Misanthrope's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2008 15:12
Misanthrope
@ B-Radicate: Ever noticed your projector has a VGA input? Ever heard of wireless keyboard and mouse?

I don't get the "couch vs desk" argument for consoles: I can have my big comfortable couch set in front of my big screen TV with a book on the arm rest to use the mouse and it works out just fine.
loki d20's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2008 15:16
loki d20
Diablo III is utilizing a good amount of point and click abilities (Barbarian's jump/stomp ability, a few Witch Doctor's spells just from the videos), which doesn't translate well to the console utilizing the standard peripherals. Now, they could have a targeting system of sorts instead that could be rotated using one of the gamepad joysticks, and on the PS3 you could always gain complete functionality with a mouse/keyboard.

I see where they're coming from, and I'm hoping they work through them because it's not very likely that I will pick this up on the PC. PC Games end up having a much smaller half life as well as an insanely decreased chance of me even picking them up unless they're an MMO.
killias2's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2008 15:22
killias2
I think the PC has a lot to offer. However, I'm really biased. I'm a big fan of strategy games. Colonization, Empire: Total War, Starcraft 2, etc. all have me crapping my pants. Of recently released exclusives, Sins of a Solar Empire is great, Crysis is good, and Europa Universalis 3: In Nomine is fantastic. Spore should also be cool. Fallout 3 will also be bomb, but I guess you can get it on PS3 or 360 anyway.

I don't think everyone needs a PC, but I also think it's a great alternative to a 360 or PS3 (especially for people into Strategy games). I don't think the PC market is incredibly vibrant right now, but it's still doing well. Digital distribution is moving a lot of copies, MMO's are making out like bandits, user created mods are continually breathing life into old games, etc. As a PC gamer with a pretty good PC rig (I can play Crysis on high settings), I have no reason to get a PS3 or 360. As a sidenote, I do have a Wii. I figured the Wii is so unique in terms of games, play styles, controls, etc. and cheap that it was worth it. In retrospect, I was correct.
Sharpless's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2008 16:19
Sharpless
@freker
Are you fucking kidding me? You're going to complain about THAT?

I don't particularly want this Diablo shit on my consoles, frankly. ;)
Nand69's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2008 17:29
Nand69
Diablo on a console wouldn't work... The controlsheme would have to be re-invented...
DaedHead8's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2008 17:56
DaedHead8
I for one, would love to see D3 on consoles. Sure the original Diablo on the PSX was a horrible port (IMO) but I think they're capable of better.
The Amazing Shenazin's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2008 18:54
The Amazing Shenazin
if they want to actually make some money on the game they should (lol piracy)
Jetsetlemming's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/01/2008 20:34
Jetsetlemming
@The Amazing Shenazin:

Blizzard makes over $120 million a month as a PC exclusive company. They're the most successful, profitable entertainment developer on Earth. Forget consoles- HOLLYWOOD wishes it had shit on Blizzard.
You and your opinions are retarded.
killias2's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2008 08:32
killias2
Yeah, their annual revenue is 1.1 billion dollars. Considering Nintendo's is 8.2 billion dollars.. and Nintendo is the number one publisher in the world and the number one video game hardware manufacturer in the world.. that's pretty crazy.

OR, if that doesn't convince you, in the last 10 years Blizzard has released only THREE FULL GAMES: Diablo 2, Warcraft 3, and World of Warcraft.

Of course, Starcraft was released just before 10 years ago, and there have been a number of expansion packs (Brood War, Lord of Destruction, Frozen Throne, The Burning Crusade). They also re-released Warcraft 2 B.net edition within the last decade. Still, though. Think about that! Nintendo releases a new game like every other week! Even if you count all these expansion packs and such, that's only NINE RELEASES IN TEN YEARS!! ALL ON THE PC!!

Keep also in mind that this is revenue. I'm sure Nintendo's costs are significantly higher than Blizzard's. There's a reason why the biggest video game publisher in the world (Activision Blizzard) decided to use Blizzard's name despite Blizz only providing like 1/100th of their total output....
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