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[Editor's note: BulletMagnet has a lot to say about King of Fighters XII. -- CTZ]

By now I think it’s safe to say that the “dump on KoF” phase around these parts (if there ever really was one) has largely fizzled out, and the other shoe has inevitably dropped – while the ongoing talk surrounding the game has largely steered clear of outright flaming, thankfully, the fact remains that, at this point, if one criticizes King of Fighters XII, more than a few others will quickly step up to defend it. Which is fine.

After spending some time with the game, though, I find that, despite a nagging feeling that this article will bring me more trouble than it’s worth, I cannot keep my hat out of this particular ring, despite the fact that quite a bit has already been discussed elsewhere on the c-blogs, not to mention within the site’s official review. As much as I hate to say it, I find myself part of the diminishing local minority who can’t help but feel disappointed in the final product, though likely not for the reasons you think. While some of my opinions to this end do relate to points that have already been covered in other places, my major complaint about the game is something that I haven’t seen addressed in-depth by anyone else, and I feel that it’s a grievance worth airing (whether or not you agree with me, I’m sure you’ll let me know, one way or another).

First thing first, though, I suppose I ought to make it clear that I wouldn’t consider myself a “hardcore” fighting gamer by the usual definition (i.e. while I enjoy playing fighters, I’m nowhere near “tournament level” on any of them), but hopefully that fact doesn’t instantly render all of my observations and arguments completely null and void (once again, though, either way I’m sure I’ll be hearing from you about it).

Before I delve into the central point of this article, let me briefly make my position clear regarding some of the aspects of KoF XII that others have covered in more detail.




For starters, I’m (mostly) fine with the roster, especially considering that everyone present is sporting completely new digital duds – the somewhat modest cast, when compared to previous KoF outings, doesn’t bother me much (after all, if I can make do with ten fighters in BlazBlue, I can manage with 22 here), and while I could definitely quibble with some of the character choices and omissions, that area comes down pretty much exclusively to personal preference, and in my opinion isn’t worth going on at length about (by the way, forgive my brusqueness here, but “No Mai, No Buy” fapboys? News flash: she’s no more “vital” to the series than anyone else…unless virtual boobs are a major reason why you bother to play a game in the first place. Join the rest of us – i.e. ALL of us - who aren’t 100 percent satisfied with the selection and get the heck over it). Moreover, I’ve got no problem with Iori’s new fighting style (if you ask me he was long overdue for a design shakeup as it was) or Athena’s “retro” look – heck, even Ralf and Clark’s “disturbingly beefy” physiques, while not among my favorite sights, to say the least, aren’t enough of a distraction to earn anything resembling a lengthy critique, at least from me. However, some of the other changes to the cast, I feel, ARE far more detrimental to the overall experience – but that falls under what I feel is the game’s most glaring flaw, which I’ll get into later.

Next up, the much-ballyhooed graphical overhaul – first off, let me tell you, few have been more excited than I to see the results of the intriguingly different artistic choices that Capcom, Arc, and SNK decided to apply to their big releases this year. Moreover, deep down I was especially eager to get my hands on KoF XII, since I, like quite a few others, have something of a nostalgic fondness for old-fashioned sprite work, and have expressed my eagerness to see it more frequently taken further. My final feelings on the presentation here, though, are somewhat mixed – I can certainly appreciate the months and months of work (as detailed in the official site’s “Dot Gallery”) that it took to redo even this relatively small sampling of characters (especially considering how long SNK had gotten by largely via recycling), but, if I’m honest with myself, I have to admit that it’s not as much of a grand slam as I’d hoped it would be. Don’t get me wrong, the size and scale of the character sprites is on a level we haven’t seen since perhaps the Art of Fighting games (even the lovely BlazBlue characters will look a little shrimpy onscreen after you’ve played KoF XII for a bit), and the animations are, for the most part, satisfyingly smooth. At the same time, however, all the boasts regarding the “dramatically higher resolution” and “increased color palette” don’t always seem to have been backed up with a complimentary dose of plain ol’ artistic awareness – just off the top of my head, the shadowed part of Joe Higashi’s chest, a straight, drab monotone bearing nothing but some blockily-drawn single-outline pectoral and abdominal muscles to define or detail it, struck me as particularly poor-looking.



While the above is one very specific area that I think could have used some extra attention, I must confess that I just don’t think the character sprites translate very well in general onto a high-def TV or monitor (and before you say anything, yes, I AM aware that this is an inherent quality of the graphical technique used here; that doesn’t automatically mean, however, that I think it looks particularly good in this case. Also, lest you totally go off on me, no, I do NOT wish that the game looked like BlazBlue.) I honestly found that things came across better overall on an SDTV, since the lessened detailing softened the fighters’ rough patches without blurring them to hell and back as the in-game anti-alias filter wont to do. Unfortunately, standard definition also takes some of the bite out of the backdrops -- on that note, while I was honestly more disappointed in the meager selection of 5 locales than with the size of the roster, I must say that I very much liked what was on offer behind the action. Unlike some others, I never found myself distracted by the large amount of background activity going on during the fights, and moreover was beyond pleased to see that SNK took full advantage of these settings to really capture the feeling of a huge international tournament. Suffice it to say, it never made much sense to me when a fighting game revolved around a major, high-profile combat competition, with figures of unimaginable power pulling the strings at the top and yet somehow you end up duking it out under a set of abandoned railroad tracks in the middle of nowhere, with nary a soul in sight. This all-too-prevalent anomaly is remedied here, and with panache to boot – all of the combat venues accommodate huge, raucous audiences, whose roars drown out nearly everything else (especially after a major blow is landed in the ring), and the packed-to-the-gills stadiums and other locales are suitably pimped out, with blimps floating and fireworks exploding overhead, streamers and flags from around the globe being waved wildly in the stands, and blizzards of confetti and pyrotechnic sparks showering the victor once a round is decided. This, in short, is what such a huge event ought to look like, and hats off to the background designers for coming through on that front. As a final note, while some fellow players were bugged to no end by them, I honestly could care less about the menu designs one way or the other, so I’ll leave that debate to separate entities entirely.

On to the meat and potatoes, the core fighting mechanics. As has been mentioned elsewhere, if you’ve played a KoF game before it’s the same four-button structure as always, and the same quarter/half-circle special moves, dragon punches, back-forward charges -- you know the drill. The match structure is strictly “old-school” King of Fighters– select three characters, set their order, and battle one at a time, with Warrior # 2 replacing Warrior # 1 after the latter is knocked out, and so on. No tag feature, no strikers, no “leader” moves, no background assists, no “Extra/Advanced” or other tweaks to apply. Moreover, even the long-standard “Single” mode has been relegated to Versus matches only, so if you’re by yourself it’s Team play or nothing. Once the match starts, you’ll likely notice that several characters’ move lists have been notably trimmed – the console-exclusive Mature, to whit, has only two special moves (two and a half, if you want to be generous) and a single super. Not everyone’s arsenal has been so severely shaved back, but personally one of the things I always liked about the KoF games was the large amount of techniques that everyone had at their disposal, which exuded the feeling that, even within a roster of several dozen, everyone had enough in-battle options to be fun and at least relatively practical to use. Those who prefer a smaller set of joystick motions to memorize won’t mind this change, obviously, but at least in my eyes it’s a negative point. Otherwise, the usual multiple jumps, roll evades and blow-back moves are here, and throwing takes two buttons so it’s not likely to occur by accident. The only truly new mechanics are the “deadlock” (which automatically cancels out opposing attacks of equal strength when they hit at the same time) and the “critical counter,” which gives players a window of opportunity to land a hard, close-range hit and activate a “mini V-ism” combo chain to pile on the damage. All in all everything works fine, and nobody seems to overpower anyone else TOO much, though I’m sure that more frequent players have had established tiers assembled for months already.



Okay – hopefully all of that gives you a decent idea of where I stand regarding KoF XII on a mostly-“technical” level. Now, however, it’s time for me to let it all hang out, and start airing my major grievances with the game (and, quite likely, watch the threats against my life start rolling in). For one thing, as others before me have noted, the single-player experience is laughably skeletal, featuring (if you don’t count Training mode) only a five-stage Time Attack. Not only has any sort of “Single” mode been sent to the corner as described above, but no trace of a Survival, Score Attack, Story, Challenge, or even a “traditional” stage-by-stage Arcade mode is anywhere in sight. By extension, this means that the characters and stages you see right from the start are all you’ll ever lay eyes on, as there’s no room anyplace for an “extra” fighter and/or stage to encounter (granted, some will be pleased to know that there’s no “SNK Boss” to deal with, but at the same time it does take a lot of drama out of the proceedings when there’s no looming demi-god watching and waiting for you.) This whole state of affairs is particularly disappointing within the King of Fighters series, as import-enabled fans may recall the days when, alongside a much fuller array of “traditional” fighting modes, KoF console ports would even sometimes include a small “puzzle” mode or other fan-friendly distraction, just to fill things out a bit. This time around? The loftiest goal for lone players to shoot for (as the game’s Achievements would have it) is getting through the entire experience that SNK has offered you in less than three and a half minutes, which in itself is a rather sad thing to ponder.

Non-online Versus options are also minimal, as only a very basic one-fight-at-a-time structure can be utilized – forget setting up any tournaments, elimination rounds or the like if you’ve got a handful of friends over. Speaking as a gamer who rarely if ever goes online to play anything (though, if what I’ve heard is true, KoF XII needs some work in this area as well), it would seem that SNK, unlike the other two major 2D fighting game companies, has all but completely forgotten I exist – I’m certainly open to criticism/mockery for being a “hermit” or “dinosaur” or whatever else you might care to call me, but I know I’m not the only player who wishes that there was at least a little more to do here when one feels like kicking back and gaming in solitude. I know little about the game design process offhand, but I can’t imagine that rearranging the match structure would have been that much of a Herculean ordeal for SNK. They wouldn’t have had to rebalance or tweak anything, just offer up a shuffled set of challenges to give players the ability and incentive to approach the game in a slightly different way. When a developer sets off on such a massive undertaking as this game, likely at least in part to shed the “lazy” image that has dogged it for years, it seems particularly ham-handed and counter-productive of them to spend so much time and effort on the presentation and then all but completely forget to give all those pretty new characters much of anything to do (or fix all the bugs, or hire actual English-language voice actors for the “English” language mode, but I’ll spare you further musings on those points).

The above, however, is NOT my major complaint about King of Fighters XII- it is NOT what I feel is most conspicuously missing from the title.



In a word, what I feel this game is most sorely lacking is personality.

I can already hear the pitchforks and sturdy lengths of rope being brandished, and smell the smoky torches being lit. I perceive the enraged howling in the distance – “Didn’t you even READ the articles you linked at the top?” they scream. “We already covered this – Kyo blows off his finger! Robert adjusts his jacket! Terry holds onto his hat! And that’s just a few examples! There’s plenty of personality here, what on Earth is your problem?” Before you all send me forcibly hurtling over the nearest cliff face, please give me a moment to say that I readily acknowledge, and appreciate, those bits that you’ve mentioned and quite rightly praised for their artistry; I even agree that they do help to bring the characters “to life”. However, I also offer this in response:

Those subtle actions, by and large, are NOT personality. They are details. The two are not always the same thing.

Allow me to elaborate. Aside from the bountiful rosters and move lists, the third, and in my opinion most important, hallmark of the King of Fighters series is the immense variety and vibrance of the fighters, not just as fighters, but as characters, as people. Sure, in this latest installment everyone’s got plenty of little mid-match flourishes and tics to watch out for, but after the fight is over, then what? What is there to make any of those dueling piles of muscles stick out in your mind not just as an entertaining combatant but a compelling personality? In a variety of ways, past KoF entries accomplished this feat, as far as I’m concerned, better than any other fighting game series – in addition to simply cooking up the obligatory back-story for the cast (which still technically exists in XII, though it’s pretty much never a presence worth mentioning), the developers and designers went the extra mile to flesh out just about everyone, both inside and outside of the games themselves.

As one offhand example, if you’re a long-time KoF fan, think back to the sort of concept/promo art and other illustrations you’d see put out for the older games. Naturally there would be some standard dossier portraits and combat scenes, but overshadowing them would be far more intriguing compositions – characters, not beating each others’ brains out, but milling around at a lavish party before the tournament begins. Taking a break with their team at the beach. Chowing down on their favorite dishes, sometimes with startling relish. Enjoying some much-needed down time with their families or significant others. Breaking out of their “usual” characterizations while nobody else was watching. Sure, it’s all just still artwork, but it served as a compelling complement to the action onscreen, a way to make you more aware of exactly what type of personality you had at your fingertips when you made your selection after inserting a quarter – even the more “realistic” illustration style they went with for several years, while a bit silly, did its part to portray those whacked-out anime sprites as people who could, imaginably, exist as believable specimens of humanity even outside of the context of the games, and as a result the fictional world they inhabited, but we could only temporarily visit, was drawn closer to our own. While it’s true that a decline in this admirable practice started long before KoF XII was released, the current developers and marketers have, to say the least, made it clear that they have no intention of reversing this trend. If you’re tempted to pipe up and argue that “the extra crap doesn’t matter, STFUAJPG”, or “at this point in the series’ history, none of that fluff is really needed anymore,” my grievances hardly stop at the extra materials – seriously, stick around, take the time to sharpen those box cutters you’re brandishing; I’m just getting warmed up.



Return, if you will, to the game of KoF XII itself. The title screen is behind you; your team is assembled; the “versus” screen runs its course, and…the battle begins. I must ask – am I the only one who, after seeing this sequence of events for the first time, immediately noticed that something was missing? Yup, the characters’ unique pre-match opening actions – completely gone. They’re just as minor a set of details as the finger-blowing and jacket-adjusting referenced above, mind you, but if you ask me they’re at least as vital to the cast’s overarching characterizations as the fleeting gestures they make in the heat of a brawl – I can’t be the only one who misses, just to name a couple, seeing Chin flying in from offscreen and clumsily landing face-down on the mat, only to nimbly upright himself a moment later, or Kensou downing a pre-fight meat bun too fast and choking on it. And that’s not even taking into consideration the small library of “special” matchup intros – Kim reading the riot act to Chang or Choi, Kyo and Iori staring each other down and slowly seething to a boil (this time around, with Iori’s flame powers gone, I would have loved to see what manner of threats and insults might be hurled between them since this latest development), and of course the infamous Andy/Mai “Kimono? What kimono?” opener, just to name a few. Nowadays, though, before the melee commences, everyone, without exception, just stands there – granted, if some players considered the intros a waste of time, SNK could have easily included the option to disable or skip them, but instead opted to not even bother altogether. As a result, all of those little morsels of characterization have been, for whatever reason, completely abandoned; moreover, this shift toward unapologetic blandness, believe it or not, becomes even more onerous once the exchange of blows actually begins.

While many of the fighters act much the same as they have for some time, some of the most unique ones have been, for lack of a better word, neutered. Specifically, let’s go back to Chin and Kensou for a bit – the former, in particular, was one of my favorite characters in earlier KoFs, stumbling around the screen, taking regular swigs from his gourd (when he wasn’t bopping his opponent over the head with it…or knocking them out by making them gulp down some of its potent contents against their will), faking rivals out by suddenly dropping to the floor, and even damaging opponents by simply keeling over on top of them. His movelist was adjusted a bit from year to year, but he never failed to stand out and offer a much-needed bit of variety amidst the plethora of more “serious” martial artists – in this iteration, however, aside from his thankfully-intact goofy appearance, his battle maneuvers (now largely a set of standard “fancy punches”) have been “toned down” to such an extent that he hardly rates a second glance. Similarly, Kensou is no longer the klutzy, love-sick underdog that we used to know – even disregarding his out-of-left-field costume change, in much the same manner as Chin he’s a largely stock-and-trade “smile-free” martial artist, mechanically taking apart opponents with fists and feet in a manner we’ve seen, for the most part, a million times before. Granted, I’ve read the interviews with the developers, who have repeated ad nauseam the “beautiful clashing of fists” theme that they were going for, and can, to some extent, understand (though not necessarily agree with) why these changes were made - truth be told, however, if SNK was really so intent on a more “deadly serious” tone this time around (for reasons I couldn’t begin to guess), it further puzzles me as to why they’d bother bringing back any of the more “oddball” characters at all, if they considered it necessary to remove so much of what makes them who they are…or, at the very least, made them what they were.



This strict, largely senseless adherence to “standardized, sterile personality or none at all” extends its tentacles into nearly every part of the game. Taunting, one of my personal favorite vestigial-yet-enjoyable features, appears to have been completely disabled (or at least obscured to the point that I still haven’t figured out how to do it), so if you were looking forward to rubbing it in at the expense of your opponent via Athena’s sudden bout of sneezing (complete with an embarrassed apology), Terry’s “heel, Fido” whistle, or Joe’s “two-cheek salute”, you’re presumably out of luck. Moreover, while win poses are still present, each character gets only one apiece, and again, almost without exception, they’re the most unremarkable, been-there-done-that “stand still and say/yell something” set of post-battle actions to appear in a fighting game in ages – Iori’s signature maniacal laughter? Gone. Kim’s glinting movie star smile? Kaputz. Daimon striking a fierce pose, with his young son rolling in and attempting in vain to duplicate his intimidating dad? Forget it. The generic quality of what remains isn’t helped by the additional absence of inter-match win quotes, which, while nothing more than static portraits and some text, are still sorely missed by anyone who enjoys that little extra spark that it adds to the cast; sure, Terry will always be a pretty cool customer, but his unique aura is diminished that much further still when the player can’t watch him say “THAT’S why I’m here every year” to his unseen fallen adversaries.

The previously-covered lack of most “traditional” fighting game modes further hobbles any possible remaining attempts at effective characterization, most starkly by removing any place for some sort of story to fit in, along with the occasional bits of scripted scenery that would advance it along, while simultaneously giving the characters one more opportunity to endear themselves to the audience. I can already hear you bringing up the “dream match” entries in the series, and you have a point, but even then the games would at least give you the prospect of some sort of ending scene to go for (and sometimes even a “special” concluding sequence if you used a pre-set team), which, needless to say, is also totally absent here. To put it another way, KoF XII violates the “narrative awareness” guideline (along with a few others) that I previously wrote about in this article, though in a different way than was emphasized therein; while that particular paragraph focused its attention on fighting games that force a story onto the proceedings when it’s not really needed, in this case SNK has done the opposite, but to no lesser detrimental effect, by sorely neglecting the series’ rich background when it could have done the overall atmosphere a lot of good.



On their own, a lack of any one of the above-listed minutiae would hardly be cause for concern, let alone a lengthy treatise like this; KoF XII, however, in one fell swoop completely discards almost every method and practice that its predecessors used to make its characters, and the interactions, both violent and non-, between them memorable, enjoyable, special, and the sickly stragglers that remain have been so effectively hamstrung that they might as well not be there. The core of the King of Fighters experience, the combatants, simply put, are no longer what they once were – while their previous incarnations made enough of an impression on the fanbase to inspire countless projects and tributes, from art to fiction to heaven knows what, I can’t see the series continuing to hold such a hallowed place among the fandom if it continues along its current path. The portraits on the character select screen no longer represent people or personalities, but merely a series of dolled-up, largely lifeless Punch-and-Judy marionettes, whose only reason for existence is to robotically beat the snot out of each other at your command – in essence, the developers seem to say, nothing beyond frame counts, priority, and beyond-the-sprite hitboxes is the least bit important to us, or to you, anymore. From now on, the only reason to choose a “favorite” character in KoF is how effectively you can win matches with him, as you no longer have any reason to genuinely like him. All that other stuff that we used to endow our creations with was nothing more than a bunch of decidedly-not-hardcore distractions, and you’d best forget all about it.

Well, SNK, for whatever it’s worth I haven’t forgotten, and it’s a shame that you seem to want me to do so. This is the sort of all-too-common (and endlessly frustrating) developer attitude that I called out not too long ago in my “Second Dimension” piece, linked earlier – if you’ll indulge me, I think I’ll just quote directly from there, emphasis intact from the original article:

It just feels, to me, as if many of you are so nervous about getting a sprite-based game or the like out there to begin with that the “core” of the work tangibly feels tailored to ensure at least a bit of profit, and everything else is built around that single element. Even if the presentation and everything else is solid, it too frequently just doesn’t come across as a truly cohesive whole, as the Games of Old did. Again, a large part of this is simply the reality of your line of work in this day and age, but please, do your very best to minimize the negative effects of the status quo, because it DOES register at our end. The prettiest character sprites and most exquisitely-painted backgrounds in the world lose a lot of their luster if they’re recycled or reused too often, and moreover the most expertly-set mood pieces and details are all but completely worthless if the visuals as a whole are just there to look pretty, and do nothing to complement or enhance the actual goings-on within the game.



This, SNK, is exactly the sort of vibe that King of Fighters XII gives me when I play it – it’s as if, in your struggle to revamp the spritework, you completely forgot, or worse, disregarded, the less obvious, but just as vital, things that kept the series relevant for as long as it has been, even as it competed for years in the modern marketplace with sprites a decade old. It almost comes across to me that you’ve devoted more time and effort to building a storyline for yourselves than you did for your characters; I can almost hear the beleaguered moans emanating from SNK’s offices, as every last employee lays sprawled out on the floor, completely drained of energy from having put all they had to give into those shiny new pixel facades. “The…the animations…they’re all finished?” the fallen heroes wheeze: “Don’t worry about us – just go, release it! There’s no way we could summon the energy to put anything else into the game, even basic accoutrements from previous entries - seriously, we’re so totally spent! But fear not, we have no regrets - for…for the dear, dear fans *cough, wheeze* it’s the least we can do.”

Once again, as much as I admire the efforts that have gone into certain aspects of this title, there’s no way I’m going to label the gaping holes in the finished product as evidence of some sort of martyrs’ nobility on your part - you have no idea how much I want to believe that this game is some sort of deliberate, benign “trial by fire” for your “true” fans, who will see past the inky, pessimistic smokescreen of the doubters and justly praise the game for its “purity” and “renewed focus on the bare essentials”, but I just can’t do it. Oh, and as a personal favor to you I’ll avoid going too deeply into my fears as to what sort of blackmail-worthy DLC I fear is headed our way before much more time has passed – as nothing has appeared yet I’ll hold my tongue for now, but rest assured that I’ll be watching your actions hence very, very closely.

To conclude, one of the write-ups I cite near the top of this article calls King of Fighters XII “a savory steak, served on a plain paper plate” or something along those lines – I can see where this analogy comes from, and agree with it to a point, but allow me to take it a step further, to drive my overall viewpoint home. I’ll readily admit that the “core” of the game does indeed resemble the proverbial Filet Mignon, cooked the way I like it, though some of the frills, like the thin, juice-soaked plate barely separating it from the table, don’t exactly inspire. Beyond that, though, I might also note that this full-priced steak dinner is not only lacking in visual presentation, but in bothering to provide the customer with any sort of sauce, or even some simple salt and pepper shakers, off to the side in case you wanted to add a little extra flavor – it’s just assumed that you prefer your cut plain, or at least that you’re too polite (or starving) to raise a ruckus about it. Moreover, I also can’t help but notice that the establishment at which we’ve chosen to dine has neglected to supply us with any sort of well-sharpened cutlery to truly delve into the savory offering with, instead tossing over, at best, a plastic fork and knife from a cheap picnic set to make do with as best we can – after all, the lion’s share of the cost has gone into the steak itself, and we should be grateful for that. In addition I see no signs of any side dishes to complement the central platter’s strengths, nor a glass of anything refreshing to wash it all down with – though I get the sinking feeling that I’m about to be handed an exorbitantly expensive dessert menu crammed with unnecessary, empty calories in their places.

In short, the food is good, but notwithstanding, can you really say that you’re fully enjoying the meal?



Some of you, I’m sure, will say without hesitation, “Hells yeah – in fact, you know what? I’ll pick up that steak with my bare hands, tear into it like a wolf at the kill, let the runoff dribble all over the place (I can lick it up later), and pick the bones clean with my teeth. And after that I’ll eat the damn bones too – you can KEEP all your fancy-schmancy sauces and silverware and side dishes, I sure as all heck don’t need ‘em.” If this is your honest answer, then obviously none of this piece’s arguments are likely to apply to you – if you’re satisfied with KoF XII as it is, then I’ve got no right or reason to insist that you think otherwise. And moreover I’ll happily offer a closing disclaimer, namely that, while I don’t think the game can be considered in the same class as what’s on tap via Street Fighter IV and BlazBlue (or even some of the older SNK compilations released earlier in the year) I don’t think that the game is a total failure – after all, if nothing else, you might say that I’ve already paid for my steak, and definitely plan on eating my fill.

All that said, though, I still maintain, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that my dining experience at Chez SNK these days is far from complete. Moreover, as much as I like the guy, my waiter has another thing coming if he’s expecting a big tip from the likes of me tonight, let alone a smiling, genteel request to give my compliments to the chef.







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blehman's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/29/2009 13:17
blehman
This was a great read. Totally understand where you're coming from too, even if I haven't played KoF in years.
casualweaponry's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/29/2009 13:18
casualweaponry
Amazing writeup, and sums up my KoFXII experience to the letter. The combat and graphics are untouchable, but the game itself just lacks a soul IMO.

I bought KoFXII and Blazblu on the same day. Bang Shishigami (Blazblu's ninja) has more personality than the entire 22 person cast of KoFXII put together. Also, and this may just be me, but the move inputs are overly strict. I know how to do a fireball motion after twenty years, but I was struggling on my Hori Pro with KoFXII's move inputs.

I'm glad I bought KoFXII, but can't help feeling that the whole affair is a "combo by numbers" game. Plays well, but not especially memorable.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/29/2009 13:35
Chris Carter
Great great thoughts. You're really the voice of reason, because most die hard KOF XII supporters will just go "it looks different than Blazblue!" instead of tackling the real issues like the lack of options/bare bones quality.

Like I've said a lot recently, I can't wait to pick both this and Blazblue up, but I know I'll enjoy Blazblue so much more.

On a side note, from what I've played of it, I really enjoy Soul Bubbles, and my wife loves it. Nice recommendation!
Drachula64's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/29/2009 13:39
Drachula64
Know what the game is REALLY missing? MAI!!! Great article btw
BulletMagnet's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/29/2009 14:16
BulletMagnet
@Casual - Well, to be fair, I believe that Bang is the first fighting game character EVER to be able to summon his theme song in the middle of a match, so he's a tad tough to top on that front no matter WHO you compare him to, heh heh. As far as the controls go, I view that matter as dependent on personal tastes just as much as character/roster preferences, so I left that one well enough alone.

@Mag - Excellent, glad you and yours are liking Soul Bubbles, I'm glad to know the article got at least one reader's attention. :)

@Jehuty - I WILL FIND YOU.

@Solgrim - "Monster blog," eh? Well, that might explain why most of the site seems to avoid them like the plague. ;)

@Everyone - Thanks as always for reading all this junk, and for taking the time to comment.
Pangloss's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/29/2009 15:46
Pangloss
Is it really that bad? I have considered picking this up, because the sheer amount of character oozing from the only two KoF games I've tried before absolutely blew me away. This isn't a point brought up in other reviews, and it's really disheartening to hear.

I really hope SNK does better for the next one, because I love this series.
TheCleaningGuy's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/29/2009 16:15
TheCleaningGuy
Wow, playing it for the first last night, I didn't even think of this! I did feel as though something was missing when I played KoF98 a little later, but it didn't hit me until reading this. It's strange, I felt as though the characters personalities were conveyed through their animations, such as Ash brushing his hair out of his face while walking away, but you're exactly right, those are details.
SNK gives us glimpses of these characters' personalities based on how they animate but they didn't truly allow the player to know the characters. I'm hoping KoFXIII establishes that again.
TewDee's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/29/2009 18:15
TewDee
Amazing writeup, and sums up my KoFXII experience to the letter. The combat and graphics are untouchable, but the game itself just lacks a soul IMO.

This are my thoughts. While I see you did link my blog and talked about the little things they do mid-match (finger blow, etc.), when I said personality I meant the same thing you did. You just said it here is a much better manner.
BulletMagnet's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/29/2009 18:26
BulletMagnet
@Pangloss - As I said, the game's not a total loss, and is worth trying just to see how the remade stuff looks, but I'd definitely wait until the price drops - it's too bad there's no demo for this, though.

Again, thanks to all who took the time to read and comment.
blehman's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/29/2009 19:29
blehman
I'm commenting on this blog again purely because you deserve more attention bullet.

<3 your blogs.
Jonathan Ross's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/29/2009 20:33
Jonathan Ross
This is a fantastic writeup. I've barely played any of the KoF games, and I snagged XII. While I'm enjoying it, I felt like there was just something missing, and I wasn't sure what it was. I think you nailed it. It's definitely a fun game, it just feels slightly unfinished to me, and I think you explained why.
GuitarAtomik's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/29/2009 21:26
GuitarAtomik
I think a lot of your grievances with this game are the reasons I can't get myself to pick it up. If this wasn't THE year of the fighting game I might be able to look past them but right now there's just too much competition in the genre which sucks because I was really looking forward to this.

Plus everything that seems to be omitted from this game SCREAMS to me that there will be a new, more complete version later and I really don't think it will be DLC. Everyone assumes that they'll just add new characters and whatnot through that avenue as opposed to a new boxed version but name one fighting game this gen that has come through with that promise (and no, Soul Calibur 4 doesn't count since those characters were already on the disc). I don't want to get burned later.

This was an epic read and I enjoyed it. Good job.
BulletMagnet's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/29/2009 21:33
BulletMagnet
@Bleh - Ha ha, thanks, man. You know what, I probably should have done this awhile ago, but consider yourself officially Friended. :)

@Guitar - True, there is more competition for SNK this year than usual, but even if there wasn't XII still falls flat compared to even its predecessors in most areas, so at least for me I doubt that a thinner fighting games market would have made much of a difference in the opinions I posted here. As for whether SNK builds on this with DLC or KOF XIII (or, even worse, KOF XII Maniax, we'll just have to wait and see.

Thanks again, everyone.
Sean Carey's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/29/2009 21:35
Sean Carey
Just a nod to say I appreciate the amount of work you put into your blogs -- they're always well crafted and enjoyable to read!
Rabite's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/29/2009 23:32
Rabite
I've been looking at KoFXII after having been greatly disappointed by Blazblue. I'm less than pleased to hear about some of the omissions you've mentioned here. Those things really did make the KoF games feel deeper and more interesting, like how every year they'd give each character's stats, likes and dislikes, fighting style, and all that other shit that made each character special. Thankfully SNK released KoF98UM, pity they fucked up the netcode for it.

I'm still going to end up getting KoF12 though. Despite all it's failings it still looks to be an enjoyable game. Though when KoF2k2UM comes out next year I'll be looking forward to that too. What can I say? I'm a fighting game whore.

In fact if you've seen my comments in other fighting game related stories you've seen me begging for more XBLA games (SFA3, Darkstalkers, Real Bout 2, World Heroes 2, MSH, CvS2, etc) It'd be so nice to see fighting games make a comeback after having been dormant for so many years in favor of 3d fighters and other genres.

Fairly long article, but very well thought out.
Jack Maverick's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2009 04:58
Jack Maverick
First off, that first image is brilliant, props on the cleverness.

That out of the way, it's been nearly ages since I even played anything with the SNK name on it. Because of that, I'm not exactly able to agree with every single point you made unless I'm willing to either do deep research on the series, or I go by a store and happen to find a KoF game lying around in it.

After reading this, I'm on the wall on what I think about KoFXII, which I'm going to admit I haven't even played yet. I find personality to be a big thing in fighting games, since it allows me to care more about who I'm playing, so I'm not just playing mashing buttons hoping for something to come out. It's why I found myself liking a good portion of BlazBlue, each character had a different personality, and they reacted differently to various opponents. Because of this, since I get the impression that KoFXII seems to lack a bit of that, I find that upsetting.

It's not a terribly big thing, but it's big enough if they want me to experiment with the 22 person roster in that game. It's why I never got much enjoyment out of the cast in SFIV, a fourth of that group acted too much alike, none of them differed that much from the other, so I ended up avoiding them all together. I'm slightly picky when it comes to fighting games.
BulletMagnet's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2009 12:10
BulletMagnet
@Rabite - First things first: where'd you hear that 2002UM is coming to the US? I hadn't gotten wind of it...is it download-only? I'd LOVE a PS2 version, like 98UM got...

Back on topic - actually, the "stats" you mention DO technically exist (check the "characters" section of the official KoF12 website), but again, they have pretty much no impact on how the in-game characters behave, so they're largely worthless. Anyways, a fighting game comeback would be nice, and to some extent I think this year's releases are making that happen - it's too bad KoF XII wasn't as major a player as I'd hoped, though.

@Jack - The stuff you mention in BlazBlue was pretty cool - offhand I recall whenever Ragna fought Jin both would replace some of their usual special-move shouting with threats directed at each other, though that's just the most obvious example. Actually, even SF4 had a bit of this - whenever you'd get to the "rival" match in Arcade mode, the characters would periodically yell various things at each other, and even replace some of their own usual voice clips with new ones.

Actually, while I'm thinking about it, there's something that's been bugging me - while most other articles about KoF XII have said that six stages exist, I've only seen five (opening stadium, closing stadium, Egypt, France, Russia). Which one am I missing?

Thanks again for reading.
Rabite's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2009 14:46
Rabite
They haven't said it was coming out here. But it'd be surprising if it doesn't.
BulletMagnet's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/30/2009 18:55
BulletMagnet
I definitely hope you're right, it's supposed to be an even better overall package than 98UM, which was awesome. I'm also hoping that it arrives before Sony officially drops support for the PS2 though...
Krow's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/03/2009 19:06
Krow
You are and always will be my favorite overlooked Destructoid community member. Do you happen to have a Gchat account?
Necro BABS's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/03/2009 19:08
Necro BABS
You know my brother bought when it came out
the online is broken
so he calls gamestop for a trade in value

they want 17 dollars

so to Ebay he goes

Why couldn't it be more like blazblue
Cuba Gooding Jr's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/03/2009 19:12
Cuba Gooding Jr
How long did it take to write this up? It's the size of a fucking research paper! I admire your dedication wholeheartedly.
Nasdroth's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/03/2009 19:13
Nasdroth
So happy this got its well-deserved promotion! Also, what Krow said. Your great articles are sadly overlooked by a lot of people, and hopefully this FP promotion will get you the attention you deserve. :)
Diverse's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/03/2009 19:16
Diverse
@Nasdroth: This isn't his first promotion.
Nasdroth's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/03/2009 19:26
Nasdroth
@Diverse

Oh, wow. Shows how much attention I pay to the front-page at times. Silly me. I'll do more research next time. :x

Still, the more blogs get promoted, the better chances are that more people will read them...right?
therepublica's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/03/2009 19:27
therepublica
Talk about circular reasoning throughout the whole god damn article. It was ruined at the very beginning, trying to appease your viewers and make yourself on their level. When you have to appeal to other users like that, you know this article is bullshit. Do I like KOF XII? Fuck no; I think the game is an atrocious piece of shit. You are just insulted because everyone is using the same reasons as to why the hate it, and you liked previous KOF games as stated in the review. You cannot fathom something being true if its in more than two reviews, so destructoid HAS to be different and edgy. Funny, because you guys cannot write, and this exemplifies that mantra.
Krow's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/03/2009 19:35
Krow
@therepublica

Wat
CWal37's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/03/2009 19:40
CWal37
@therepublica

The last year and a half you were gone have been pleasant. Did you just remember your password?
Naim Master's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/03/2009 19:41
Naim Master
They're raping my childhood ; everyone is so serious , no big bad boss ; Iori doesn't have his flames , even though it's a "dream match" game ; Ralf just turned into Brazilian stereotype #2 (#1 is Eddie from Tekken ; I was always so proud of Ralf being Brazilian but being 100% stereotype free ...) , Clark is Hulk , they've chosen the worst costume for Robert , Mature has 2 special moves , the traditional bad ass intro (like KoF 99) now literally made me have little convulsions in the arm ; no strikes , tags or any fancy team stuff ; no Mai ...
I just have so many reasons to stick with KoF 99 , 98 and XI , I'm really disappointed with SNK ...
vApathyv's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/03/2009 19:43
vApathyv
Fantastic write-up, and you make me all the sadder when I realize that once I finally do get to play this game I'll most likely be disappointed overall. I fell in love with the oozing personality from the past games, taking a liking to K' and his admittedly-not-so-unique-but-very-well-done attitude, with the tiny touches like his back-to-you walking away, the flicking his sunglasses at you to initiate one of his supers, and other touches like his absolute determination to become better than Kyo even though he's just a clone. Hence I was slightly disheartened that they did drop some of the characters with such personality like K', or Oswald (Practically every single move he did was dripping with unique personality), or even completely abolishing the personalities of the characters left, like removing Iori's telltale maniac-laugh and also for whatever reason seemingly dropping the rivalry between him and Kyo. Granted, I'll still give it a try, but after enjoying '02, '03, and XI so much it's just sad that they would do so much to bring the series to the current standards of fighting games while at the same time doing so much to hinder it from being the game it truly could have (and should have) been.
Naim Master's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/03/2009 19:44
Naim Master
Also , another great and satisfying wall text by BulletMagnet! :)
Phoenix Gamma's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/03/2009 19:51
Phoenix Gamma
I've been playing KoF2002 lately, and I enjoy that a whole lot more; I love a lot of the characters that never made it to XII (Vanessa, Blue Mary, May Lee, Angel, K', and a few others) and having them taken out is a real bummer for me. I'd have liked to see Hiroaki do the art again, but he's straight up freelance now.

Plus, BlazBlue's online spoiled me :<
JohZho's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/03/2009 19:52
JohZho
Gratz on front page :)
Awesome read, first Cblog entry that I've read from you haha.
zeroword's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/03/2009 19:53
zeroword
If I could just add, that eating Filet Mignon with steak sauce really defeats the whole point of eating good steak.

Good article though.
Phoenix Gamma's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/03/2009 19:59
Phoenix Gamma
also, therepublica, if you dislike Destructoid so much, feel free to find another site. Attitude like that isn't something I'd miss.
Inmortal2k9's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/03/2009 20:30
Inmortal2k9
i bough it (KOF 12) and i regret it. :( awesome read :)
parsleyboots's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/03/2009 20:31
parsleyboots
Not that I've played KoFXII yet, but given the opportunity I think my response to the game would be exactly the same as yours. I just hope that SNK re-introduce these elements in KoFXIII, and not as wallet-raping KoFXII DLC.
theredpepperofdoom's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/03/2009 20:31
theredpepperofdoom
Long cblog is long. Great read and bookmarked so when I have time I can finish reading it. I haven't played KOFXII yet since I don't have a 360/PS3 and it isn't at my nearby arcade, but it looks really pretty so I want to play it.
RhythmVictim's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/03/2009 20:32
RhythmVictim
Great article. I made a number of these points with a friend of mine last night as I introduced him to the game for the first time. Two of the other design choices that I really felt brought the series to life for me that you didn't mention are the following:

1. Across a few of the entries ('98 being the first that comes to mind) the members of your team that weren't currently fighting would be standing in the background cheering you on and grimacing when you got hit. Though SNK hasn't done this in the most recent games I was hoping it would return in this one as I felt it really made my choice of characters FEEL like a team.

2. While not all previous stages had this it has nonetheless been a SNK hallmark across a number of their fighting franchises to have the time of day change inbetween rounds. This little detail really made it seem like the battle was more epic as the world continued to race on while your characters settled their differences. With such fabulous backdrops it would've only been more exciting to see them change a little as the match wore on.

Thanks for the words, lets just hope they don't fall on def ears.
BulletMagnet's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/03/2009 20:48
BulletMagnet
Thanks a million for the congrats, everyone! On to a handful of individual responses -

@Krow - I don't do much in terms of chat/IM-type stuff, I tend to just brood and fester until an avalanche of text comes out. ;) I'd love to meet a lot of the people here in person, though, despite the fact that many/all of them would likely end up walking away (very quickly) from my RL persona severely underwhelmed.

@Cuba - As with most of my pieces, I just sort of blacked out and woke up with this thing on my monitor. ;) Seriously, though, I must admit that when I first got the idea for this piece I had no intention of it being this long, it just kind of ended up that way - all told I probably spent a little under a week, on and off, from start to finish on it (rough guess, anyways). When you're unemployed for long periods of time one of the few upsides is that you can do stuff like this and not end up worse than you already are, heh heh.

@Nas - Yeah, I've been kicked frontwards a few times before, but you're pretty new so it's all good. :) And yeah, obviously being front-paged boosts your readership loads - I actually intend to crunch some numbers at some point and compare the average comments my non-promoted blogs get versus the promoted ones, just for kicks.

@republica - I'm not sure what your issue is here...the only "appeasing" I do is in telling readers that this isn't a "this game sucks in every way imaginable and if you say you like it for any reason you're a total moron who loses at life and isn't worth my time" type of article - my main gist, after all, was that my primary issue with the game was something that I hadn't seen discussed very much before. I don't consider the fact that others have a different take on the game "insulting" - if I did take offense every time someone else disagreed with me, or even just came from a different viewpoint than mine, I'd be huddled in a corner mumbling to myself about how DToid, General Motors, and Steve Guttenberg were all involved in a global conspiracy to try to make me doubt my innate godlike powers of perception (but I'll show THEM!). To put it bluntly, I don't take the approach to discussions that everything and everyone, without exception, should be either prayed to several times a day or dragged unceremoniously into the street and shot, with nothing in between - and moreover, assume that I am always on the correct side of said debates. Others will always disagree with me, and quite possibly have a good reason to do so - I have no problem with that, or expressing this sentiment openly. I don't see how acknowledging others' viewpoints while simultaneously offering my own turns anything else I have to say into "circular reasoning" or "an inability to fathom majority opinion" - frankly, as far as I'm concerned, those who take the aggressive, insult-ridden "my way or the highway" stance have the least to contribute to worthwhile discourse out of anybody.

@Phoenix - In that case, keep your fingers crossed that '02 Unlimited Match makes it here!

@Jozo - Heh heh, today you are officially a Man! ;)

@Zero - Ha ha ha, I can't much argue with that overall sentiment, but methinks you get my point. :)

Thanks again, everyone!
AngryJoeShow's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/03/2009 21:33
AngryJoeShow
Great Article, the Thing Missing the Most was definitely personality, without character stories (not even in the least bit) I had no idea who any of these people were.

My Parody Review: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42ex7ywC9t4
6/10 (i'm interested in the series now, but this one falls flat, looking forward to any future titles - especially if they decide to inject personality and extra content)
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/03/2009 21:43
Chris Carter
@therepublic
Holy shit. Bullet isn't even a staff member: that shows how little you know, and how angry of a human being you are.

Unbelievable.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/03/2009 21:59
Chris Carter
@Bullet
I just picked this up today actually, for PS3. Would you be up sometime for playing?
nilcam's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/03/2009 22:10
nilcam
Nice article. You made some really good points about the game. I agree that it's barebones but I feel it's one of the deepest and smoothest fighting engines ever produced. It's stripped down compared to most KoFs but there's great beauty in its simplicity. The systems at work are far more complex and deep than most other fighters; it's concepts are easy to grasp but take a lot of practice to master. I'm really loving the deadlock and critical counter systems.

As far as personality, I think that it is in the details. Granted the personality is not as deep as other KoFs, but name one character in Street Fighter that pauses in the middle of his super to make sure his jacket is straight and he's looking good. The animations are the real reason I feel the characters have personality. The first time I saw Terry hold his cap while sweeping was a pretty amazing moment. I expect we'll see new modes and character info in the DLC. There's a new interview with Shane Bettenhausen that discusses the possibility of free DLC to apologize for the netcode mess.

Thanks for putting so much thought and effort into this great article.
Horror Leader's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/03/2009 22:29
Horror Leader
It is clear that DLC of KOFXII is in high demand from both long time players and newcomers. In this current generation of video games, DLC can be both a way to “fix” games as well as add content that extends the life of a game. Looking specifically at the latter, the average game (on Xbox Live) is played for 2 months* with multiplayer adding a considerable amount of time to that length.

A good example of this is Burnout Paradise from publisher EA and developer Criterion. Say what you will about the actual game, but Criterion and EA have been able to sustain the game's popularity (based on online usage) through extensive DLC both free and paid for.

When the first large update came around, Burnout saw a new surge in sales. Additionally, second-hand observations have reported that Burnout is one of the least "traded in" games on the market due to continued support. New modes and some vehicles (motorcycles!) were free while personality-based content (a Delorean skin anyone?) was paid content. Furthermore, Burnout Paradise saw a universal price cut of $20 bringing the game down to a much more consumer friendly $40 to coalesce with its second major update. A year later and BP had the same active users online as it did around launch- pretty rare for any genre, much less a racing game.

This to me is an ideal way of managing a game’s post-launch life. It speaks to a developer’s commitment to provide a complete game experience rather than hash out sequel after sequel (not pointing fingers just saying... Activision)

Now about price: I doubt anyone would want a price fluctuation as transparent as I’ve presented at the risk of losing buyers who prefer to “wait it out” on cheapassgamer.com and eventually forget about it. But lets look specifically at KOF and the almighty dollar.

If we look at the past recent releases of the KOF franchises, they have retailed for below the standard (KOF 2006 and XI being $30 upon release during a time when the PS2 standard was $50). This may have caused the series to be considered a "value-branded" or “bang for your buck” game, for both good and bad- but either way, KOFXII’s $60 for a comparatively barebones release among heavy rivals (SFIV is $20-$40 at this point) and BlazBlue hit not too long ago with a fleshed out fully animated story mode and no prior expectations (spiritual successor to GGX notwithstanding), making KOFXII feel out of touch with their core demographic and possibly the same fans that have been there to keep the series relevant here in the states. This of course is only exacerbated by the exclusion of fan-favorite Mai.

What I'm saying is KOFXII should have come out and undercut the fighting game market with a $50 - $40 price point and DLC that makes SFIV and BlazBlue players demand more from their respective developers. It's like hitting a moving target! With release right around the corner, the former is perhaps too late at this point, but that just makes appropriate and timely DLC absolutely critical.

In any case, DLC can mean the difference between a game people play for a month or two before they find the next big thing, and a game they continue to enjoy for years to come. Keep in mind I am referring to the gaming industry as a whole, not just the KOF fans.
Phoenix Gamma's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/03/2009 22:41
Phoenix Gamma
@nilcam: I think SFIII did a better job of showing personality through animation. ToastyFrog has an entry on SFIII talking about how Makoto, with a bland design, shows a lot of personality through her animations.

As nice as this game looks, I'm missing some of that magic SFIII has.
DaShiz 21's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/03/2009 23:06
DaShiz 21
@necro

Dude gamestop gave me 35 bucks for this game lol. I sold it on Sunday.

And yes as far as this game goes it is lacking way to much for a 60 dollar price tag, especially with the line-up for the end of the year. This money couldve been spent on something so much more worthwhile. Call of Duty, Tekken 6 CE and so much others. I am more mad at myself for not renting this to be honest though. :/ Guess I need to stop buying al fighting games on release..
Squinshee's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/04/2009 00:13
Squinshee
You present a convincing argument. However, you have presented it poorly.

- Why discuss the character roster/sprites/presentation when your point isn't about those?
- Keep it focused: this thing was all over the place
- Succinct is better then lengthy when written well
- Using italics for emphasis means the word your using isn't potent enough

That was a brutally long read, much of it unnecessary. The underlying argument is well thought out, just not well written.
Autumn's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/04/2009 00:34
Autumn
Great article, very inspiring. Man, I really miss the days when fighting games had true personality. Honestly, that's so much more important to me than the fighting mechanics.
I still value Soul Blade above most other 3D fighters because it had alternate endings for evryone, and in some cases you could choose to be good or evil. Why don't you get that in beat 'em ups any more?? In a game where you're beating the snot out of another sprite over and over, ALL you have to maintain player interest are your characters and settings. It really bugs me that this has been abandoned in favour of shiny graphics.
After reading this, I shan't be getting KOF12. Tut.
sire masta's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/04/2009 02:51
sire masta
An amazing writeup to an amazing series what more could I ask for eh?

PS articles like these are the the reason i joined this execelent website
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