Second worst?
Now that's just nice, saying that without specifying what site IS the worst.

What was Burch's comeback? or did he get his ass handed to him in insult sword fighting?

I admit, I actually only go to Destructoid because it is the worst gaming blog I have ever seen. I am now very curious what the worst one is.

I'm not sure why I giggled, was it what he said, or was it how he said it, either way, I giggled.

Really?

I visit Kotaku all the time, and I honestly feel that if nothing else, the Kotakuites at least don't have a rediculous belief in "games as art" that simply radiates from this site.

I'll be honest; I never liked high society art. It always struck me as elitests imposing their view on what a medium should be upon the commoners, when it is the commoners that bring meaning to the art and not the high society types. It is because of this dislike of art as defined by critics creating a gap between the layman and the medium that I feel destructoid is the absolute worst gaming blog - the firm belief that games should elevate beyond enjoyment for the massesis stupid, as what could be greater than entertaining millions? Certainly the answer is not to create games for niches with deep stories and quirky gameplay, as that merely feeds the divide between making the world better through entertaining everyone and trying to make yourself better than the rest of the world through the creation of "art" that is above the understanding and the willingness of interest of the common man.

@hcasts

The fuck are you talking about? Rape games, get with it.

Ouch. That bastard.

I hit up the Telltale panel...gahd those guys are so aweeeeeeeeesome.

First you'd better stop waving around like a feather duster.

How appropriate, you fight like a cow!

Hcapt is very right, except that I don't really get that "games are art" vibe from Destructoid. Only from Anthony Burch.

You guys are actually agreeing with this crazy man?

"the firm belief that games should elevate beyond enjoyment for the massesis stupid, as what could be greater than entertaining millions? Certainly the answer is not to create games for niches with deep stories and quirky gameplay, as that merely feeds the divide between making the world better through entertaining everyone and trying to make yourself better than the rest of the world through the creation of "art" that is above the understanding and the willingness of interest of the common man."

Did you even READ what he wrote, or were you too caught up in deciphering his massive text block to be bothered actually understanding what he said.

Hcapt, what is "high society art"...? I suppose you mean contemporary Art? Yea, there is a lot of weirdness going on. Nevertheless your judgement of Art is pretty much the same that Non-Gamers have about games. They don't understand the matter, but voice their opinion and look like fools to gamers.

So if you are not interested in Art, stop complaining about it "being elitist". It's not, it's just a topic you have no clue about. That's okay, but don't feel threatened by it for christ sake.

Games would still be like Pacman, if people wouldn't experiment with the medium. Some things work and are taken into the mainstream, most are not. Thats just nature (and Art at the same time). It's part of the process that is called "Evolution". If you stop being so conservative about it, you might learn something!

Btw, adventuregames were also something "elitist" and "artsy" 30 years ago...

@Hcapt
Yeah, how dare we hope to get game to a more sophisticated level and try to experiment with it instead of keeping it a small reassuring medium to the masses that releases sequels and clones and not new bold material, how dare we.

If Bazin heard out you said, even if he was a movie critic, he would flip the fuck out in is grave.

@ HCapt
"I never liked high society art. It always struck me as elitests imposing their view on what a medium should be upon the commoners,"

I agree entirely, the standard of art in society is commonly decided by the wealthy ponces who control the art scene.

"when it is the commoners that bring meaning to the art and not the high society types."

Pardon my french, but the commoners should go fuck themselves, whether or not something is art is decided upon by the artist. If someone creates something, he decides whether or not his creation is art. That is the difference between a Urinal and Fountain by Marcel DuChamp, physically they are identical, but it is in the context that one sends a message, and the other blends into the background.

"It is because of this dislike of art as defined by critics creating a gap between the layman and the medium"

The separation of laymen and art is purely because laymen do not understand art. Most people look at abstract expressionist works and comment "my five year old could have painted that"

The truth is, the modern layman cannot find his own ass with both hands. Anyone that could argue intelligently to the contrary, is not a layman.

"I feel destructoid is the absolute worst gaming blog - the firm belief that games should elevate beyond enjoyment for the masses is stupid, as what could be greater than entertaining millions?"

You could give everyone a stick and they would find a reasonable amount of entertainment out of it. Entertainment is a shallow and pointless pursuit, when it merely causes stagnation, causing the average consumer to sit on his ass all day instead of actually doing something, instead of learning, or improving themselves. Art > Entertainment.

"Certainly the answer is not to create games for niches with deep stories and quirky gameplay, as that merely feeds the divide between making the world better through entertaining everyone and trying to make yourself better than the rest of the world through the creation of "art" that is above the understanding and the willingness of interest of the common man."

The creation of art is for the purpose of enlightenment, not exclusion. The masses can be entertained by watching paint dry while commenting on how much they enjoy the Simpsons and Family Guy.

The point at which art became incomprehensible for the common man is when artists finally understood their medium, when they realized that an image is not itself, words are merely symbols, and that all meaning in art is imparted upon by the viewer by expecting to see art. Those who do not understand art are, quite simply, not smart enough.

One should never look to the masses for guidance in culture, otherwise McDonalds would be fine cuisine, Coca Cola would be considered a fine wine, Stanley Kubrick would be considered a hack while Michael Bay is praised for his brilliant use of unnecessary explosions, Call of Duty 4000000 would be considered a better game than Secret of Monkey Island, just because the graphics are prettier and it features more lead objects passing through people's torsos than any previous Call of Duty game.

To borrow from Nietzsche, it is not the common masses that should lead, as it is the overman, who draws his strength from creative forces, it is the artists, the writers, the philosophers, and the composers, who should lead.

hahahahahaha! That is priceless. But who's the first worst?

great stuff.

FANBOY RAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

oh wait it's jokes.

Hahahah... That actually made me laugh out loud.

@ Mecha Six VII - That's all fine and dandy, but the artists you describe are ones that create art for self enlightenment. They have no buisness getting paid for work that the masses don't want to buy. They especially don't have any buisness running up 20 million dollar budgets in the entertainment industy, which, may I remind you, was created around the desire of the masses to be entertained, and most certainly not around the artist's desire to portray meaning into the world.

It's so disappointing to see how much art actually goes INTO videogames, from original idea scribbles, to concept drawings, 3D modeling, lines upon lines of code, all working together to make something people can enjoy. Sadly, the end product, for the most part, becomes generic crap that floods the mainstream market.
Thank goodness for the occasional publisher that is willing to promote a unique game idea instead of a sure thing.

@HCapt: Why shouldn't artists make money? Those characters aren't going to design/model themselves! As far as I know, the masses seem to like those snazzy graphics that 3D Artists put together. You seem to have absolutely no concept on how videogames are made.