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WGA members eye game writing as possible new gig, sadly photo

Those of you not living in the tremendous shadow of Harry Knowles may not be aware of this, but the Writers Guild of America -- the union containing almost every film and television writer in Hollywood -- is on strike. Since it appears the studio execs are comfortable running reality TV and living off of their wealth during the strike, and the public outcry has been basically non-existent, the writers have been looking for new ways to supplement their now missing income, and gaming is apparently being seen as a viable alternative. GI.biz has a quote:

According to a report in Variety, work in videogames is something that the WGA is keen to embrace at some point, but as it hasn't yet its members are free to work on them during the strike.

Their piece goes on to say that a move to game writing would be a monetary hit for most WGA members, but when the decision eventually becomes one of "monetary hit vs eating your children for sustenance," we assume we'll be seeing more Hollywood-types being hired on at EA and Activision.

Then again, if you've seen a movie, television show or the city of Los Angeles any time recently you'll be as terrified of this prospect as I am. Gaming has made incredible strides recently with titles like Portal, and giving the reins of a virtual world to the guy who wrote that episode of Heroes where Hiro travelled back in time to fight a body inhabited by Dr. Sam Beckett in front of the 1919 Chicago Black Sox would be almost as stupid as his "creative output."








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Crock23A's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/27/2007 11:53
Crock23A
I read the headline and thought WGA was Windows Genuine Advantage. <Smacks head>
moeman's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/27/2007 11:57
moeman
This could go either way. On one hand you might see more humor and wit in the delivery of the dialogue, but on the other hand developers might feel the need to send gameplay to the backseat and rely on the storyline.
Snaileb 's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/27/2007 12:11
Snaileb
Ok, so it looks bad.

Look at it this way, a couple good eggs get mixed in with the industry, and will the help of people in the know in the industry, they both with generally evolve into a delicious cake.

(Death by fire to the first person who makes a lying cake joke)
king3vbo's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/27/2007 12:19
king3vbo
It could be good or bad, just depends
DeusPayne's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/27/2007 12:23
DeusPayne
My guess, 90% of the result will be rehashing jokes, plots and whatnot from TV to games, and 10% will be amazingly creative character driven storylines that can be made or broken with a proper surrounding gameplay. So... in other words, 99% useless, but has potential.
Ron's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/27/2007 12:24
Ron
Developers already put gameplay behind graphics, so putting gameplay behind writing too won't make things much worse.
Revolutionary's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/27/2007 12:29
Revolutionary
Just f&*$#ng great. The last thing I need is a digitized version of "The Days Of Our Lives" with 16 player support over Xbox live.

-Rev
bc88's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/27/2007 13:14
bc88
No no this could be... Yeah bad.

BTW Quantum Leap>>>>>>>>> Heroes.

I always wanted a Ziggy.
vexed alex's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/27/2007 13:24
vexed alex
So, does anyone really care about their little strike? I'm sure those SUV driving, large suburban home having writers are doing soooo bad. My hearts go out to their happily wealthy families.
iliketuna's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/27/2007 13:41
iliketuna
i wish that woman on the left would hold my sign. and by sign i mean penis.
epoch's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/27/2007 14:00
epoch
speaking of harry knowles they ran a story today on aintitcool saying the strike is pretty much over so yea
PrinceofCannedPeaches's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/27/2007 14:03
PrinceofCannedPeaches
I'm laughing at the prospect of all of the even remotely intellectual fare that used to populate TV and film moving to the interactive medium en masse, and television being left with nothing but mind-numbing reality shows and... well, quasi-pr0n.
Brad Rice's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/27/2007 14:04
Brad Rice
Vexed: I care about the WGA strike, mainly because as soon as I graduate, I'm joining. Screenwriting is a great opportunity, but it doesn't pay well. Writers defer their large payments up front in order to make money at the backend. That includes royalties, DVD sales, and Internet usage. I'm more familiar with the film industry, so that's what I'll just talk about. There's a minimum payment of $44,000 for a screenplay -- that's because it's not like a writer is going to churn one out every couple of months and strike it rich. Usually, you'll spend a few years shipping around scripts to try and get them optioned (bought), while writing more.

The WGA is striking because, as it is now, they get some ridiculous number like $0.02 per DVD sold, and the companies don't want to pay for any future claims to digital distrobution rights, because they "don't know if it'll be a profitable medium." Here's a quick bit from the Daily Show writers to illustrate the point.

The WGA and SAG are necessary in order to keep writers and actors on liveable wages. Most of the anime industry, for example, works outside of the SAG, because they can't afford to pay the minimum required rates.

Bringing the WGA into the realm of videogames does a few things. First, it provides a greater importance on writing in videogames. Like I posted about a few weeks back, the WGA is going to start giving out awards for videogames that will be judged by WGA members that actually have experience in working on videogames. Second, it will give a greater incentive to write for videogames full-time and develop that skill, with minimum payments and benefits being outlined. Also, there will be greater protection of work by having the WGA there to protect your work.

And hey, it's not like all the WGA members are retarded. If you read soemthing like PWBeat, you'd realize that a lot of the TV and movie writers are going back to comic book projects (which excite those in the comics industry), and producing some quality work.

It's good to think before you speak, y'know?
MissHinasaki's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/27/2007 14:04
MissHinasaki
@DeusPayne
Actually, I believe that the rehashing is kind of why they're striking.

Everything has sucked lately, from movies to TV. It's just the same god damn thing over and over again. prequels, sequels, and remakes.

You can't blame the lack of creativity on the writers though. It's not so much creativity as it is just them doing what they're told. You have to blame America. After all, they're the ones who chose reality TV and the same god damn thing with a different name and the writers just give them what they want.

Sorry for the nonsensical rant. I just miss the time where sitcoms were funny and I got excited about new movies.

But yea, that aside, it could go either way if the writers went to the gaming industry. Me being horribly focused on story, I like the idea of better dialogue and perhaps some new story lines (you have to admit that games suffer from the rehashing syndrome as well). It could just as easily result in horribly awkward meshing of the humor of 40-year-olds and an infinite number of platformers. Just wait until they get a hold of the waggle!
Sharpless's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/27/2007 14:09
Sharpless
Anyone who gets upset by this will get slapped by a large fish. This is in no way a bad thing, at the moment. Until the Caveman writers get ahold of a game.
epoch's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/27/2007 14:19
epoch
misshinaski they are striking because when VHS was first hitting the market they made a deal to cut their royalties back to help market growth with the stipulation they would get their original royalties back eventually but that never happened. They also get nothing on new media, like when people watch a tv show through itunes writers see none of that money. They just want want what they were promised.
Maurice Tan's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/27/2007 14:25
Maurice Tan
I don't see how this is a bad thing either, games desperately need better writers. This year there have been what, maybe 5 games with good storylines? Blame the studios and directors instead. I say YES to a Kaufman-written game!
Snaileb 's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/27/2007 14:29
Snaileb
<3 Dick McVengence
Sharpless's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/27/2007 14:35
Sharpless
Yep, I'm down with Dick. These writers may be better off than you or I, but that doesn't mean their cause isn't good. The studios are being quite unfair.
JonDarkwood's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/27/2007 15:02
JonDarkwood
The studios just want to snatch up as much money from the digital revolution as they can, because they apparently think writers are effing idiots and won't notice.

If the people who actually know how to create the content were the people who ran the studios, television and movies wouldn't suck so much.
Outer Heaven's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/27/2007 15:06
Outer Heaven
Well said, McVengence.

And games desperately NEED better writing. Even the strongest game scripts still sound like crappy first drafts. To claim that games have made "incredible" strides in their storytelling when compared to movies makes me wonder if you've played many games recently (or if you know the definition of the word "incredible").

Who knows? Maybe if these writers are put in an environment where producers aren't constantly yelling at them to put in more fart jokes they'll thrive. It can't be any worse than "Your world will burn until its surface is but glass!"
Brad Rice's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/27/2007 15:15
Brad Rice
I'm planning on working on a game script/design doc myself. I know my screenwriting teachings will help me when I seriously start putting things together. Combining mediums isn't a bad thing. It brings in new ideas.
xmetninjax's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/27/2007 15:18
xmetninjax
I was happy when I heard Grey's Anatomy stopped filming, but this... this is horrible.
Spartacus's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/27/2007 15:41
Spartacus
Comments over. Dick McVengeance wins.
SubOrbital's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/27/2007 15:47
SubOrbital
I don't like TV. I don't really like many movies out lately either. I certainly don't want our games getting locked down like the media industry seems to lately. But that will never happen since it isn't a market dominated solely by America. Gaming is global. Good on them for thinking of games as a job possibility, but I don't think we need them as much as they need us. We have some pretty freaking cool stories already.
Samit Sarkar's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/27/2007 16:50
Samit Sarkar
DMV = baller. That is all.
MusashiX2's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/27/2007 17:03
MusashiX2
writing in video games sucks ass. Portal is a diamond in the rough. the rest is either formulaic or dribble.
MusashiX2's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/27/2007 17:05
MusashiX2
or formulaic dribble.
FreePablo's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/27/2007 17:43
FreePablo
@vexed alex

Jesus Christ, the ignorance is overwhelming. I've lived off WGA and SAG residuals my whole life. Guess what program my family has been on for many years? Wait for it... welfare!!! Ding ding ding! Guess how many food stamps we get that can be converted into Hummer Buckz. And on the topic, writing for video games? How demeaning. I mean, even the people who write Family Guy and Yes Dear probably wouldn't stoop that low.
Fading Star's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/27/2007 17:44
Fading Star
Hmmm...this COULD be good or bad. We'll see what happens.

@Nex
That Heroes comment...come on, man. This season has been a little off, but it's not that bad. Each episode has its moments. The first season was excellent and with the Writer's Strike, they may be able to improve the quality of the show when they come back.
vexed alex's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/27/2007 18:32
vexed alex
@ FreePablo & Dick McVengeance

Both of you are correct. I take back what I said.
Bob Muir's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/27/2007 22:25
Bob Muir
This can only be good for gaming, since even though there's a lot of shit on TV right now, it's still usually better than the "save the princess/world" plot of most of gaming.
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