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Yea!!!!! PS3 is where it belongs at the bottom! I just hope one day there will be no playstation brand!
@Mildpooptastic
Pfft, AAHAHAHA!!!
That was so blatant I could only read it as sarcasm and lul.
Anyhow, nice lookin' month. I approve of all those games. Well except for Crackdown 2. I hate Crackdown with a passion.
Moving along what is up with redesigns man? It's like the magic sales booster. I'm actually surprised. I didn't know if a 360 redo would work as well as they thought it would. Shut me up fast.
Also, lolpsp. Amirite?
Pfft, AAHAHAHA!!!
That was so blatant I could only read it as sarcasm and lul.
Anyhow, nice lookin' month. I approve of all those games. Well except for Crackdown 2. I hate Crackdown with a passion.
Moving along what is up with redesigns man? It's like the magic sales booster. I'm actually surprised. I didn't know if a 360 redo would work as well as they thought it would. Shut me up fast.
Also, lolpsp. Amirite?
I don't think they have any right to complain about that 8% sales slump in comparison to last year, with Crackdown 2 in 3rd place and the first 2 taken by yearly iteration of a sport franchise, they should be rather grateful is just 8%.
@Mildpooptastic: hater alert! hater alert!
@Mildpooptastic: hater alert! hater alert!
Bad Economy, lack of greatness = Lower sales.
Not hard to figure out, really. More important will be whether or not August is a success, what with Madden being released and all.
Not hard to figure out, really. More important will be whether or not August is a success, what with Madden being released and all.
July NPD... now in gif form!
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=22799990&postcount=459
ROFL @ PSP. go 360!
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=22799990&postcount=459
ROFL @ PSP. go 360!
Fuck this list. I bought a copy of Deadly Premonition, surely that would've been the 6 millionth copy sold? RIGHT?
@mildpooptastic: I hope you're kidding. If you love gaming, you should realize how important competition is for this business we love.
@xyzliac
I think the new 360 has sold so well because it's much more than a redesign. Granted its stuff that should have been present at release but you are getting a lot more bang for your buck with the new ones.
I think the new 360 has sold so well because it's much more than a redesign. Granted its stuff that should have been present at release but you are getting a lot more bang for your buck with the new ones.
I like Sony and Microsoft rivalry. It keeps things interesting. Nintendo is in its own category. There should be family toy console category.
I'm surprised to only hear one MS fanboy spring out of the woodwork. When Sony released the redesign for the PS3, the Sony fanboys would't shut up for months.
I bought two games last month (DP & DQIX). That's two more games than I usually buy per month.
I've been doing my part to help the economy.
I've been doing my part to help the economy.
I think a good chunk of 360 sales is because everyone was waiting to replace their RROD 360's. Goes to show you that people love their Xbox.
@Roah:
Funny, because working at Gamestop, I can say that many are new buyers. Also, many people trade their old ones in for the new one, and we don't take in broken/faulty models. So, no.
Funny, because working at Gamestop, I can say that many are new buyers. Also, many people trade their old ones in for the new one, and we don't take in broken/faulty models. So, no.
I recommended my friend, who has been holding out for a while, to pick up a 360 during the $50 price drop.
@infamy
I stand corrected, but to your point, a lot of people are replacing their old ones, whether it be for a newer model that doesn't RROD (hopefully), or because it's a better value to get a new 360 with WIFI, bigger hard drive, etc, as opposed to paying $200 for them seperately. And of course the price and better value will bring new users.
I stand corrected, but to your point, a lot of people are replacing their old ones, whether it be for a newer model that doesn't RROD (hopefully), or because it's a better value to get a new 360 with WIFI, bigger hard drive, etc, as opposed to paying $200 for them seperately. And of course the price and better value will bring new users.
@RAOH92:
I bought my new Xbox 360 for one reason: it applied the 40% Rule. I've always gone by the notion that if the cost of upgrading an item is 40% or more of the cost of a new item, it's more cost effective in the long run to buy the new item. 40% of the cost of a new 360 is $120. A 250 GB hard drive separately is $130. Long-term benefits also include lower power consumption with the 360 Slim.
I didn't trade my old one in, though. I gave my old one to my kids to play all of their LEGO games on it. Now I can play RDR in peace without "Daddy, can I play LEGO Harry Potter?" when I'm galloping through Armadillo.
I bought my new Xbox 360 for one reason: it applied the 40% Rule. I've always gone by the notion that if the cost of upgrading an item is 40% or more of the cost of a new item, it's more cost effective in the long run to buy the new item. 40% of the cost of a new 360 is $120. A 250 GB hard drive separately is $130. Long-term benefits also include lower power consumption with the 360 Slim.
I didn't trade my old one in, though. I gave my old one to my kids to play all of their LEGO games on it. Now I can play RDR in peace without "Daddy, can I play LEGO Harry Potter?" when I'm galloping through Armadillo.
@ Infamy - "Funny, because working at Gamestop, I can say that many are new buyers. Also, many people trade their old ones in for the new one, and we don't take in broken/faulty models. So, no."
If many are new buyers, I have to ask if that means there are also many who are current owners. Xbox 360s sell a couple hundred thousand a month reguardless of model, so having a lot of the buyers being first-time buyers would have been true even without the redesign.
Hardware is useless without software, and I noticed software is down this month in spite of StarCraft 2. Which means an aweful lot of people are buying hardware compared to the software you need to use it. The concern really shows when you realize there are only 4 Xbox 360 titles in the NPD top twenty, in spite of the massive sales boost.
Source: http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/29893/Nintendo_Titles_Again_Reign_Over_NPD_Top_20_In_July.php
@ Gol-D-Roger - Did the gameboy and the NES need competition? In some ways, competition is the worst thing to have happened to gaming. On the one hand, you could argue that it caused gaming to enter a graphical hardware race to the top that threatens to destroy the industry with billions in losses on machines and a lul of innovation in the AAA market. On the other hand you could argue that it started the motion control frenzy Microsoft and Sony are entering this fall. Whether those are good things and which one is good varies from gamer to gamer.
@ John B - I don't think I understand your rule, but frankly I disagree. The new Xbox 360 is just an Xbox 360, and thus, no upgrade logic should apply.
I know I certainly wouldn't buy a Nintendo DSi XL if I already owned a Nintendo DSi (heck, I'm still on lite), because it's the exact same device.
If many are new buyers, I have to ask if that means there are also many who are current owners. Xbox 360s sell a couple hundred thousand a month reguardless of model, so having a lot of the buyers being first-time buyers would have been true even without the redesign.
Hardware is useless without software, and I noticed software is down this month in spite of StarCraft 2. Which means an aweful lot of people are buying hardware compared to the software you need to use it. The concern really shows when you realize there are only 4 Xbox 360 titles in the NPD top twenty, in spite of the massive sales boost.
Source: http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/29893/Nintendo_Titles_Again_Reign_Over_NPD_Top_20_In_July.php
@ Gol-D-Roger - Did the gameboy and the NES need competition? In some ways, competition is the worst thing to have happened to gaming. On the one hand, you could argue that it caused gaming to enter a graphical hardware race to the top that threatens to destroy the industry with billions in losses on machines and a lul of innovation in the AAA market. On the other hand you could argue that it started the motion control frenzy Microsoft and Sony are entering this fall. Whether those are good things and which one is good varies from gamer to gamer.
@ John B - I don't think I understand your rule, but frankly I disagree. The new Xbox 360 is just an Xbox 360, and thus, no upgrade logic should apply.
I know I certainly wouldn't buy a Nintendo DSi XL if I already owned a Nintendo DSi (heck, I'm still on lite), because it's the exact same device.
i work at a game store too and we see more people trading in their xbox we have so many in stock its ridiculous, mostly to "upgrade" to the slimmer xbox but mostly because they tell me they are done with Microsoft.
I've always been shocked at just how popular the 360 appears to be. Maybe it's because I'm in Canada though I can't really see why it would make much difference. I can tell you that out of 17 people on my PSN friends list, and all but 2 of them are people who I actually know not just people I've met online, I'm the only one who has ever owned a 360.
Now I know that 17 people is a pretty miniscule percentage of the gamers, but that still means that only 6% of the group has ever owned a 360. And when I think about how almost all the guys I know personally have purchased multiple systems, Wii's, handhelds, and PS3's, but no 360's I can't help but wonder if the odd rumor you hear now and then about Microsoft cooking the books might be true.
Now I know that 17 people is a pretty miniscule percentage of the gamers, but that still means that only 6% of the group has ever owned a 360. And when I think about how almost all the guys I know personally have purchased multiple systems, Wii's, handhelds, and PS3's, but no 360's I can't help but wonder if the odd rumor you hear now and then about Microsoft cooking the books might be true.
Well, no hate to the other systems on the market, as I happen to enjoy those, too - but honestly, Xbox 360 is the finest choice for a home console, IMO.
And I'm glad Crackdown 2 beat the overhyped and overrated Red Dead Redemption. It looks like the Crackdown franchise can live without Halo beta invites thrown in. Can't wait for Crackdown 3.
And I'm glad Crackdown 2 beat the overhyped and overrated Red Dead Redemption. It looks like the Crackdown franchise can live without Halo beta invites thrown in. Can't wait for Crackdown 3.
@ glitznglam-style - Have you actually played Crackdown 2?
It's supposed to use the exact same overworld as the original, and is considered a downgrade by everyone who reviewed Crackdown. I don't know much about the series, but I've seen some pretty harsh press once it came out.
@ LittleBigD - PS3 are pretty rare where I live. Halo is considered more important than anything on the system, if only because it's so easy to play with friends and online simultaniously. I ended getting a PS3 because I ccould play Xbox 360 anytime I wanted anyway.
It might be cultural. Microsoft is American, and Halo is a very, very popular in the states.
It's supposed to use the exact same overworld as the original, and is considered a downgrade by everyone who reviewed Crackdown. I don't know much about the series, but I've seen some pretty harsh press once it came out.
@ LittleBigD - PS3 are pretty rare where I live. Halo is considered more important than anything on the system, if only because it's so easy to play with friends and online simultaniously. I ended getting a PS3 because I ccould play Xbox 360 anytime I wanted anyway.
It might be cultural. Microsoft is American, and Halo is a very, very popular in the states.
Yes, I own and beat Crackdown 2. In many ways I agree with the reviews, but I still had more fun than in the boring sandbox known as Red Dead Redemption. Give me cars and superhuman powers, not a fuckin' horse.
I found the story and gameplay in Red Dead to be very solid, but I found the downtime (i.e. the sandbox) to be rather boring compared to other sandbox games. Just too much open space and not enough things to do, IMO.
@Hcapt: The NES was the competition. You had Coleco, Mattel, Atari, Sega, and Nintendo, all were making consoles. "In some ways competition is one of the wost things to happen to gaming. You could argue that it caused gaming to enter a graphical hardware race to the top that threatens to destroy the industry with billions in losses on machines and a lul in the innovation of the triple A market". What! Dood you are talking out yo ass. Competition is the mother of innovation, why do you think we have the amazing games of today, people trying to best what came before. Competition didn't just happen to Gaming it's been here all along. And not just in gaming but in any business, when companies compete for your money the consumers are the ones who benefit(mostly anyways)
@ Gol-D-Roger - the mother of innovations seems like the rejection of competition to me.
Nintendo went into a death spiral console side that only ended when they abandoned competing with the PS3 and the Xbox 360.
I am not talking out of my ass when I say Sony and Microsoft lost billions competing with eachother. It is amazing their investors still let them make consoles when both companies lost 5 billion dollars entering the current gen. Even when Sega abandoned hardware they never lost even close to that much; it would have put them out of buisness. That is what happens when two companies compete directly with eachother.
I don't consider the NES's competition to be competition because it never made enough of a splash to affect the NES's uptake.
And I do not consider the games of today to be amazing. In fact, most of them are outright boring. GTA4 is simply inferior to GTA San Adreas (and most customers seem to agree because San Andreas sold millions more copies), and many of the AAA games are all starting to look identitcal to eachother. (Take a look at the comparison poster here: http://www.cracked.com/article_18609_more-proof-video-game-industry-out-ideas-e3-2010.html )
Nintendo went into a death spiral console side that only ended when they abandoned competing with the PS3 and the Xbox 360.
I am not talking out of my ass when I say Sony and Microsoft lost billions competing with eachother. It is amazing their investors still let them make consoles when both companies lost 5 billion dollars entering the current gen. Even when Sega abandoned hardware they never lost even close to that much; it would have put them out of buisness. That is what happens when two companies compete directly with eachother.
I don't consider the NES's competition to be competition because it never made enough of a splash to affect the NES's uptake.
And I do not consider the games of today to be amazing. In fact, most of them are outright boring. GTA4 is simply inferior to GTA San Adreas (and most customers seem to agree because San Andreas sold millions more copies), and many of the AAA games are all starting to look identitcal to eachother. (Take a look at the comparison poster here: http://www.cracked.com/article_18609_more-proof-video-game-industry-out-ideas-e3-2010.html )
@Hcapt:.......sigh........."The mother of innovation seems like the rejecton of competition".....Do you even realze how stupid that sounds, it makes no sense whatsoever. A rejection of competition dosen't exist, you compete or you go under and if you don't have to compete that's a monopoly, and if that's what you want there are antitrust laws that wanna have a word with you. The wii did compete against the Ps3, and the 360 they just did it in a way that was made sense to them as a company. And you know what they made the right decision. "I don't consider the NES competition to be competition" lol ok buddy, I could write a whole essay on how that's bullshit. Yeah microsoft and sony both lost butt-loads of money, but both where large enough companies to absorb the hit. Microsoft came into the console race with a lower price point, and different add-ons and it was up to you to decide what you wanted if any. Now sony came in with a feature packed console but at a higher price, now consumers had a choice to make, and they chose Xbox so sony went back stripped down the Ps3 and finally the ps3 is profitable. Do you know who you have to thank for the ability to choose, and in some ways change the direction of a company, waitfor it........COMPETITION........GASP...i know huh mindblown. I know this is pointless, you're not gonna listen so keep doin what you doin good luck to ya. Oh by the way when I said "the great games of today" I meant looking at evolution, like comparing ummm... You brought up gta so gta1 all the way to san andreas for example. Oh and if you think that this generations games suck, all I can say is I'm sorry and you're missing out on some amazing games on all platforms.
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