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That guy on the left screen looks like voldermort. For serious, I thought it was some 'shopped joke or something.
Thanks Sony for picking me up off the streets then, kicking me back out. I'm gonna go hang out with my dreams of getting MGS4. Assholes...
"PSP just needs a couple more games that are "must buys," and they'll be just fine."
lollers, if only it was that easy.
lollers, if only it was that easy.
Your avatar is making me crack up, Spencer.
Sony's 2008 lineup for games is looking mighty promising, but then what? Sure, the brand name will carry them a ways, but if they don't lower the price permanently at some point, I can't imagine them getting very many 3rd party exclusives in the future. This isn't really a problem with Microsoft, because they're willing to "do business" with companies to score exclusives, while Sony is not.
If the Xbox 360 price does drop while the PS3 still costs $600, think of how many PS2 owners who haven't bought a next-gen system will switch over to 360.
Sony's 2008 lineup for games is looking mighty promising, but then what? Sure, the brand name will carry them a ways, but if they don't lower the price permanently at some point, I can't imagine them getting very many 3rd party exclusives in the future. This isn't really a problem with Microsoft, because they're willing to "do business" with companies to score exclusives, while Sony is not.
If the Xbox 360 price does drop while the PS3 still costs $600, think of how many PS2 owners who haven't bought a next-gen system will switch over to 360.
So yeah... the PSP needs a second thumb thingy. I'm actually happy with the things present and future with the PSP (playing games like darkstalkers, puzzle fighters, guilty gear on the go has been great for me... along with playing MP3s). I agree with Dick, a few more games could have PSP sitting pretty for a minute.
The PS3... wow... well, they may be setting themselves up for another lose for the holidays, but the things they did mention coming in 2008 may be the cushion they are hoping to land on. An interesting strategy, if it is what they're thinking. If they do drop the 60G PS3, and they "continue" to sell them like hotcakes, they would probably get a little more notice from other game companies to have more games come and make up the lose they may recieve later this year. If that is on their mind, then it would be a ballsy hit-or-miss that I can't wait to see how it turns out.
For online... well, yeah... if ya can't beat em, join em. Get those PS2 and PS1 titles on there big time.
The PS3... wow... well, they may be setting themselves up for another lose for the holidays, but the things they did mention coming in 2008 may be the cushion they are hoping to land on. An interesting strategy, if it is what they're thinking. If they do drop the 60G PS3, and they "continue" to sell them like hotcakes, they would probably get a little more notice from other game companies to have more games come and make up the lose they may recieve later this year. If that is on their mind, then it would be a ballsy hit-or-miss that I can't wait to see how it turns out.
For online... well, yeah... if ya can't beat em, join em. Get those PS2 and PS1 titles on there big time.
The supposed experts really can't see what is happening to the very industry they work in. Remember when Nintendo use to make playing cards, then eventually made the quantum leap into videogame design, well that's what's happening with Nintendo right now, they are about to quantum leap into their next big change.
What has this got to do with Sony? Well, Nintendo happen to know what the future of interactive entertainment is, they understand the medium they work in, Sony are still pushing and end of an era blueprint because they are a business company posing as a design company.
It's a very similar scenario to the arcade gaming scene fall from grace, there was a time when arcades were considered the peak of videogame experience, better graphics, sound, interface. Almost overnight they were made redundant by advances in home console technology and fundamental changes in game design. In this comparison, Sony (and to a lesser extent Microsoft) are the high end arcades not realising that they are working their bollocks off in an unsustainable environment.
My post has nothing to do with favouritism or fanboyism, this is an objective view of a medium which is so obviously due a huge change, and as usual, there will always be casualties in any big change. Sony will be one of those casualties because you cannot fake innovation, and without doubt the future of intercative entertainment, human interface and videogames, is innovation.
What has this got to do with Sony? Well, Nintendo happen to know what the future of interactive entertainment is, they understand the medium they work in, Sony are still pushing and end of an era blueprint because they are a business company posing as a design company.
It's a very similar scenario to the arcade gaming scene fall from grace, there was a time when arcades were considered the peak of videogame experience, better graphics, sound, interface. Almost overnight they were made redundant by advances in home console technology and fundamental changes in game design. In this comparison, Sony (and to a lesser extent Microsoft) are the high end arcades not realising that they are working their bollocks off in an unsustainable environment.
My post has nothing to do with favouritism or fanboyism, this is an objective view of a medium which is so obviously due a huge change, and as usual, there will always be casualties in any big change. Sony will be one of those casualties because you cannot fake innovation, and without doubt the future of intercative entertainment, human interface and videogames, is innovation.
@ zardoz...
I agree with about 99% of everything you said up there...
But I think Sony will surprise people. The other two have nother to really prove at the moment, but like hell Sony will fall flat on its ass for too long. Plus, be it that it kicks ass right now, I'm not thinking waving your hands like a wild man or hola-hooping on a pad is the "quantum leap" some see it all. I'm one of the peeps that has seen all his friends sit down their Wii and go back to other things (Gears, WoW, etc.).
Just sayin...
I agree with about 99% of everything you said up there...
But I think Sony will surprise people. The other two have nother to really prove at the moment, but like hell Sony will fall flat on its ass for too long. Plus, be it that it kicks ass right now, I'm not thinking waving your hands like a wild man or hola-hooping on a pad is the "quantum leap" some see it all. I'm one of the peeps that has seen all his friends sit down their Wii and go back to other things (Gears, WoW, etc.).
Just sayin...
There are a lot of projects for the PSP that Sony made as a selling point for their handheld, that have yet to see the light of day. For instance, does anyone know exactly what happened to the Eye Toy camera add on the PSP?
Also, as of 20 minutes ago, I can't help but think of Jade Raymond and giraffes when I see Phil Harrison >.<
Also, as of 20 minutes ago, I can't help but think of Jade Raymond and giraffes when I see Phil Harrison >.<
@Pixelated_Lilac
I have one.
It's called the Chotto Shot, and they're all over eBay. Kind of boring, but it's there. And it's very real.
I have one.
It's called the Chotto Shot, and they're all over eBay. Kind of boring, but it's there. And it's very real.
I think Sony just needs to overcome the weakness you pointed out: get some worthwhile games on the system. Everything else is secondary, in my opinion. Having a solid online infrastructure is important, but as shown with the Wii, not a dealbreaker if the system has some worthwhile games. (Example: I doubt anyone will complain about poor online implementation in Super Mario Galaxy.)
If there are a bunch of must-have games on a system, I don't care how expensive it is (really, I don't, and you know it DMV), then I'll buy the system. This holiday season is going to force me into buying a 360 a year earlier than I was planning on. I'm just curious when Sony will have enough exclusives to achieve the same effect.
If there are a bunch of must-have games on a system, I don't care how expensive it is (really, I don't, and you know it DMV), then I'll buy the system. This holiday season is going to force me into buying a 360 a year earlier than I was planning on. I'm just curious when Sony will have enough exclusives to achieve the same effect.
The PSP thumb thingy already sucks, lets not add a second one. Y'know, aside from the fact it makes any games requiring it worthless on an older model (i.e. you are retarded for suggesting that). The system is cool because of all the sweet JRPG support coming for it, along with things like Crush and the Castlevania remake.
It is true that the DS and the PSP can and are coexisting, much like the Wii will with the other next gen consoles. You're seeing very different games you can only get on one system, and it's worthwhile to have both. Except the handhelds are a lot more affordable together.
I still say that all on the stipulation the PSP hacking stays up to date. Half the value on the system is the PS1 and down emulation. And yes, I do own almost every PS1 youl'd want to play, so I wouldn't even have to pirate them.
As for the PS3, I can't afford that or the 360 right now. I'm hoping the PS3 does end up with a solid enough opposing library to the 360 by the time I can, because I much prefer it's openness and modularity to the highly proprietary 360 bullshit.
It is true that the DS and the PSP can and are coexisting, much like the Wii will with the other next gen consoles. You're seeing very different games you can only get on one system, and it's worthwhile to have both. Except the handhelds are a lot more affordable together.
I still say that all on the stipulation the PSP hacking stays up to date. Half the value on the system is the PS1 and down emulation. And yes, I do own almost every PS1 youl'd want to play, so I wouldn't even have to pirate them.
As for the PS3, I can't afford that or the 360 right now. I'm hoping the PS3 does end up with a solid enough opposing library to the 360 by the time I can, because I much prefer it's openness and modularity to the highly proprietary 360 bullshit.
I dunno...there are definitely still a bunch of AAA exclusives coming between now and Christmas — Lair (8/14), Warhawk (8/28), Heavenly Sword (9/4), and Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction (10/2) are the huge ones. Sure, Halo 3 will sell millions of copies upon release, but I like the next 6-8 months for Sony, considering they have those four games, as well as Metal Gear Solid 4 (still an exclusive), coming in that time frame. Also, don’t forget...while exclusives may sell systems, third-party cross-platform titles will still sell well, and I’m sure some people will be pushed to go Sony’s way for games like Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock and GTA IV.
If this price cut stuff is really true, though, and they’re just hoping to sell off all remaining stock of the 60 GB PS3s before they make the 80 GB edition the only SKU, then I still think that’s garbage. Unless, of course, they’ll eventually drop the price on the 80 GB to $499 — even if they take MotorStorm out of the equation — because then, there’ll be some chance of competing with Microsoft. I mean, while an 80 GB PS3 at $499 would obviously still be $20 more expensive than a 120 GB Elite, that $20 gets you the chance to play the five great games I mentioned above, and more, plus the obvious technological advantages that everyone knows about (Blu-ray, built-in 802.11b/g wireless, media card readers, etc.)
If this price cut stuff is really true, though, and they’re just hoping to sell off all remaining stock of the 60 GB PS3s before they make the 80 GB edition the only SKU, then I still think that’s garbage. Unless, of course, they’ll eventually drop the price on the 80 GB to $499 — even if they take MotorStorm out of the equation — because then, there’ll be some chance of competing with Microsoft. I mean, while an 80 GB PS3 at $499 would obviously still be $20 more expensive than a 120 GB Elite, that $20 gets you the chance to play the five great games I mentioned above, and more, plus the obvious technological advantages that everyone knows about (Blu-ray, built-in 802.11b/g wireless, media card readers, etc.)
Sony needs to take a cue from Microsoft and start buying exclusives. Not because it's the right thing to do but because the other guy is doing it.
Microsoft puts up millions to make sure shit comes to their system; Sony damn well better start putting up money to prevent shit from going to the 360. It sounds underhanded well that's because both sides of the argument are clearly forms of bribery. That's just how the industry works now I guess. You have to buy studios and buy exclusives from other companies and then make pony up to get exclusives for your console.
Microsoft puts up millions to make sure shit comes to their system; Sony damn well better start putting up money to prevent shit from going to the 360. It sounds underhanded well that's because both sides of the argument are clearly forms of bribery. That's just how the industry works now I guess. You have to buy studios and buy exclusives from other companies and then make pony up to get exclusives for your console.
@Altair78
Yeah I agree with what you're saying, Sony won't completely fall on their ass, but they have completely miscalculated the future of intercative entertainment.
I mean really, if Sony were even 50% right about their vision of the future of videogames, then the Wii would be a complete and utter failure, the fact that a technically inferior machine is outseeling the PS3 by a huge margin is very telling.
Now, this ill judgement has happened to Nintendo with the N64 and ironically Sony were the culprirts, whilst Nintendo and Sega were taking their positions for granted, Sony came along and injected some new energy into the industry whilst Nintendo were building upon old, spent concepts.
But the huge difference is that Nintendo are genuine designers, they are capable of innovating and diversifying their approach for a changing environment, one minute Miyamoto is king of hardcore games, next he introduces Wii Fit - this is a real designer - Sony on the other hand do not have the understanding of this medium in order to diversify and innovate. They won't die, but the Playstation is a spent brand name. Sounds ridiculous now, but I wouldn't rule out a Sony, Nintendo hook up in the future.
Yeah I agree with what you're saying, Sony won't completely fall on their ass, but they have completely miscalculated the future of intercative entertainment.
I mean really, if Sony were even 50% right about their vision of the future of videogames, then the Wii would be a complete and utter failure, the fact that a technically inferior machine is outseeling the PS3 by a huge margin is very telling.
Now, this ill judgement has happened to Nintendo with the N64 and ironically Sony were the culprirts, whilst Nintendo and Sega were taking their positions for granted, Sony came along and injected some new energy into the industry whilst Nintendo were building upon old, spent concepts.
But the huge difference is that Nintendo are genuine designers, they are capable of innovating and diversifying their approach for a changing environment, one minute Miyamoto is king of hardcore games, next he introduces Wii Fit - this is a real designer - Sony on the other hand do not have the understanding of this medium in order to diversify and innovate. They won't die, but the Playstation is a spent brand name. Sounds ridiculous now, but I wouldn't rule out a Sony, Nintendo hook up in the future.
The PS3 will continue to be #2 in Japan and #3 in the US until 2 things happen/
1) It costs as much or less than the 360
2) It has a Wii-Remote rip off.
Nothing else will matter. The games on the way will help, but the 360 still had a more varied and more quality line up for appealing to the hardcore. MGS4 is 99% likely to coem to the 360 late next year. The PS3 really only has FF:XII, and who knows how good it will even be, or if it will even be out by 2009.
Sony could still take the gold if they brought back the 20Gb model, threw in their Wii-Remote rip off, and priced it at $300. Anything short of that will be futile.
1) It costs as much or less than the 360
2) It has a Wii-Remote rip off.
Nothing else will matter. The games on the way will help, but the 360 still had a more varied and more quality line up for appealing to the hardcore. MGS4 is 99% likely to coem to the 360 late next year. The PS3 really only has FF:XII, and who knows how good it will even be, or if it will even be out by 2009.
Sony could still take the gold if they brought back the 20Gb model, threw in their Wii-Remote rip off, and priced it at $300. Anything short of that will be futile.
I'm shocked the PSP refresh doesn't include the much needed right analog stick, that to me is what the PSP needs to make the kind of games that they make for the system more playable. I have a PSP and I haven't touched it in about 7 months, and last time I played it I was playing Lumines.
Hm...well, Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction is now coming out on November 7, according to this , but that’s still way before Christmas, so my post still holds up.
Perhaps Sony is banknig on hoping Blu-Ray will win the format war, and then giving consumers a good buy in the ps3 with its Blu-ray support. I mean, if Blu-Ray does win, then they basically have a Blu-Ray player selling for hundreds less then many stand-alone Blu-ray players. I guess they see $599 as still a great buy considering if/when Blu-Ray were to become the dominant media platform, most Blu-ray players will probably drop to around $300-400 yet purchasers of the (price dropped or not) PS3 get that AND a gaming system that plays some (but of course not all, with all these battles for exclusivity) of the most technologically advance games available.
But then, dropping the price would still make the situation look a whole lot better for them. But they'll be running at a huge loss unless Blu-Ray picks up so they can funnel some of the revenue from Blu-Ray to the PS3 (or they somehow they create some sort of mega-gadget a la MAC/ipod). Yet currently, Blu-Ray seems their only innovation lately. Otherwise they're following trends rather than setting them.
But then, dropping the price would still make the situation look a whole lot better for them. But they'll be running at a huge loss unless Blu-Ray picks up so they can funnel some of the revenue from Blu-Ray to the PS3 (or they somehow they create some sort of mega-gadget a la MAC/ipod). Yet currently, Blu-Ray seems their only innovation lately. Otherwise they're following trends rather than setting them.
er to clarify the last part, i mean that Sony lately seems to have fallen into a company following trends rather than setting them
Sony needs a price cut; plain and simple.
We see some good looking games on the horizon, but most people still can't afford the system. Peter Moore was smart to bring up the fact that 80% of the PS2's sold were at the $199 price range or less. The first console to get to that price point is going to see amazing sales, and the PS3 is a long way away.
Yes, they need to keep making games, better the PSN, keep those firmware updates coming (including the ever-so-important XMB accessibility in-game), and clean up their PR. But even if those things were all there, they still couldn't win at a $500 or $600 price point.
I've been waiting to see a Sony SKU priced at $400. I'm having trouble seeing the new price as a price drop. Considering my cheapest option is still $500, it looks more like a hardware upgrade disguised as a price drop.
We see some good looking games on the horizon, but most people still can't afford the system. Peter Moore was smart to bring up the fact that 80% of the PS2's sold were at the $199 price range or less. The first console to get to that price point is going to see amazing sales, and the PS3 is a long way away.
Yes, they need to keep making games, better the PSN, keep those firmware updates coming (including the ever-so-important XMB accessibility in-game), and clean up their PR. But even if those things were all there, they still couldn't win at a $500 or $600 price point.
I've been waiting to see a Sony SKU priced at $400. I'm having trouble seeing the new price as a price drop. Considering my cheapest option is still $500, it looks more like a hardware upgrade disguised as a price drop.
PSN isn't all that bad right now. It's kind of sparse, but Nucleus is kind of neat. Super Stardust HD is still pretty fun too.
In my opinion, Sony could do one thing to significantly boost sales...
And this is to stop wiping out older system SKU's.. They could have kept the 40 and made it $399, hell, even made it a 20 or 30 - if all the gamer wants to do is game, then that is more than enough for the PS3's on-HDD Storage... Then they could have followed up with the 60 gig plus some packins, say a game or some Playstation Store points packed right inside.. This could go for the $500 and then following the 80 - which imo should be boosted up to a 100 or 120 for $600 with even more pack-ins than the 60.
This would have substantially increased the PS3 sales - coupled with the latest removal of the emotion chip, manufacturing costs would also be down.
Other than this, it's all about the games to get the systems as they are off the shelves faster.. To do this, I think Sony needs to work more closely with any company producing a PS3 game to help them learn to properly code for the PS3. Taking that extra step to ensure that the games coming to the PS3 are going to be of good quality at the very least, rather than a mediocre port that lags due to not being programmed correctly.
And this is to stop wiping out older system SKU's.. They could have kept the 40 and made it $399, hell, even made it a 20 or 30 - if all the gamer wants to do is game, then that is more than enough for the PS3's on-HDD Storage... Then they could have followed up with the 60 gig plus some packins, say a game or some Playstation Store points packed right inside.. This could go for the $500 and then following the 80 - which imo should be boosted up to a 100 or 120 for $600 with even more pack-ins than the 60.
This would have substantially increased the PS3 sales - coupled with the latest removal of the emotion chip, manufacturing costs would also be down.
Other than this, it's all about the games to get the systems as they are off the shelves faster.. To do this, I think Sony needs to work more closely with any company producing a PS3 game to help them learn to properly code for the PS3. Taking that extra step to ensure that the games coming to the PS3 are going to be of good quality at the very least, rather than a mediocre port that lags due to not being programmed correctly.
I'm definitely starting to agree regarding the PSP and DS not being in direct competition. I've been happy with my DS for awhile, but Sony has convinced me to get a PSP within the next 6 months or so. However, I don't see it as replacing my DS with the PSP. They each have their own games. I certainly can't remember the last good looking game I saw that was released on both PSP and DS...(not counting that puzzle game).
Every game (with exception to Little Big Planet) that's coming to PS3 that I want to play is also coming to 360. I'm not interested in Metal Gear Solid or FF. If there was at least 3-4 games that I "must play" is when I'll consider getting one. Because I wouldn't mind having a blu-ray player either. The 360 is holding it's own and has a TON of stuff coming out this year that I'm looking forward to playing. Get me a $399 PS3 with a few games that I absolutely need to play and I'm there. For me my Wii/360 is keeping me plenty entertained.
As for PSP. It's just not doing it for me. I owned one at one point, sold it and haven't looked back. To be honest I don't think I'll get one again. The DS is more than enough for me.
As for PSP. It's just not doing it for me. I owned one at one point, sold it and haven't looked back. To be honest I don't think I'll get one again. The DS is more than enough for me.
From what I've been hearing, LAIR is a massive disapointment. All style, no substance. Fur coat, no knickers.
My thoughts on what Sony needs to do to pull ahead, in order of importance:
1. Complete tear down and rebuilding of PR and Marketing departments related to the Playstation brand. The plans these departments have implemented thus far for the PS3 have been massive failures (creepy, stupid commercials, an endless supply of brainless public statements, etc).
2. Send out a pack of starving wolves to secure top-notch, exclusive software for the PS3. Pay for big name timed exclusives. Get indy developers on the PS3 bandwagon. Help finance a remake of Final Fantasy VII by Square-Enix. Promote the hell out of these titles.
3. Do whatever it takes to achieve price parity with the Xbox 360 Elite. Match the HD capacity of the Elite so that the product doesn't appear inferior in any way. You need to remove the EE? Fine. Whatever. But the PS3 should be positioned as a no additional cost alternative to the 360 Elite.
1. Complete tear down and rebuilding of PR and Marketing departments related to the Playstation brand. The plans these departments have implemented thus far for the PS3 have been massive failures (creepy, stupid commercials, an endless supply of brainless public statements, etc).
2. Send out a pack of starving wolves to secure top-notch, exclusive software for the PS3. Pay for big name timed exclusives. Get indy developers on the PS3 bandwagon. Help finance a remake of Final Fantasy VII by Square-Enix. Promote the hell out of these titles.
3. Do whatever it takes to achieve price parity with the Xbox 360 Elite. Match the HD capacity of the Elite so that the product doesn't appear inferior in any way. You need to remove the EE? Fine. Whatever. But the PS3 should be positioned as a no additional cost alternative to the 360 Elite.
Remove blu ray, stick in a normal DVD unit uncompress files to the hardrive if they are worried about storage. Then they can drop the price to 300 quid! easy sorted done, la la we can all go home.Add a blu ray attachment like the 360 has got for those very few shit games out already.
it is too early in the morning for me to try and make sense of my thoughts on sony. i will say that i feel things are going to turn around. then again, i never doubted them anyway.
the one thing i will type is about how something has become more obvious to me as time as gone on. people have different needs and different opinions that translate into them needing options. i read forums and news posts were one person will say they sold their psp and bought a ds and never looked back. i own both and i use my psp more. some people say that the 360 has all the games they need, while others hate what microsoft offers.
this singular thought is what keeps a smile on my face. the fact that in all this battle people can decide what they like and still have the option to change their mind [although some will even admit they are stubborn]. i'm glad i've been given a choice, even if my choice usually sits firmly on the side of sony.
i agree with most of the above comments except for changing the ps3 setup [like those that want blueray out] and those that want a second analog stick. seriously. if games were that hard to play/create/enjoy with only 1 stick, sony would have put two in originally.
the one thing i will type is about how something has become more obvious to me as time as gone on. people have different needs and different opinions that translate into them needing options. i read forums and news posts were one person will say they sold their psp and bought a ds and never looked back. i own both and i use my psp more. some people say that the 360 has all the games they need, while others hate what microsoft offers.
this singular thought is what keeps a smile on my face. the fact that in all this battle people can decide what they like and still have the option to change their mind [although some will even admit they are stubborn]. i'm glad i've been given a choice, even if my choice usually sits firmly on the side of sony.
i agree with most of the above comments except for changing the ps3 setup [like those that want blueray out] and those that want a second analog stick. seriously. if games were that hard to play/create/enjoy with only 1 stick, sony would have put two in originally.
@Zardoz
I know I may be in the minority here, but I'm really not at all impressed with what Nintendo has done with the Wii. Their big innovation, as you called it, has spawned nothing but mini-games and ports with tacked on controls. What's so innovative about that? A new input method does not an innovation make. You're still using a physical stimulus to manipulate a virtual environment.
Not to say that the other offerings have been terribly innovative themselves, but that's neither here nor there.
But the huge difference is that Nintendo are genuine designers, they are capable of innovating and diversifying their approach for a changing environment, one minute Miyamoto is king of hardcore games, next he introduces Wii Fit - this is a real designer - Sony on the other hand do not have the understanding of this medium in order to diversify and innovate.
With all due respect, I was never aware that Miyamoto was the king of hardcore gamers (especially considering Ninty has publicly stated many times that their trying to hook the casual demographic); additionally, I sincerely doubt that he micromanages his company to the point that Wii Fit (yet another collection of mini-games) is his brainchild.
I appreciate the fact that they're going after a relatively untapped demographic, but I fail to see how that translates into real innovation.
Especially when the way they go about it is through simplifying their controls.
I know I may be in the minority here, but I'm really not at all impressed with what Nintendo has done with the Wii. Their big innovation, as you called it, has spawned nothing but mini-games and ports with tacked on controls. What's so innovative about that? A new input method does not an innovation make. You're still using a physical stimulus to manipulate a virtual environment.
Not to say that the other offerings have been terribly innovative themselves, but that's neither here nor there.
But the huge difference is that Nintendo are genuine designers, they are capable of innovating and diversifying their approach for a changing environment, one minute Miyamoto is king of hardcore games, next he introduces Wii Fit - this is a real designer - Sony on the other hand do not have the understanding of this medium in order to diversify and innovate.
With all due respect, I was never aware that Miyamoto was the king of hardcore gamers (especially considering Ninty has publicly stated many times that their trying to hook the casual demographic); additionally, I sincerely doubt that he micromanages his company to the point that Wii Fit (yet another collection of mini-games) is his brainchild.
I appreciate the fact that they're going after a relatively untapped demographic, but I fail to see how that translates into real innovation.
Especially when the way they go about it is through simplifying their controls.
@banj: i like thinking about 'hot women' in fur coats with no knickers, so your point is lost on me. [;
i'm with alaphic. i bought a wii for my fiance right after thankgiving [thank you best buy for keeping me from waiting in line] and while we own 5 games for it, i've used it far less than even my genesis in past 3 months. the concept is cool, but i just can't seem to keep interested in what they bring to the table. granted manhunt 2 would have turned things around, but well, we all know how that is going. sadly, the thing that it seems to be the best suited for is shooters [my favorite genre] and yet i don't own any current game that remotely falls into this category, and i don't see any real good shooters coming out. RE doesn't coun't.
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