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I agree. I've been getting the impression this is an attempt at a revamp of the series just cause thats what all the "popular" horror games are doing these days.
I wouldn't consider RE4 a survival horror game, it's an action game. I'm waiting patiently for the first real survivor/horror game of this gen.
This article nailed my feelings towards the Silent Hill series since the second title. That game was a fucking masterpiece. The rest have been so-so at best and pointless at worst.
Especially the enemies and how they keep getting recycled. They're supposed to be a reflection of the protagonist's psyche and always have very special meanings, if they keep getting thrown into each new title without a second thought, then the developers are essentially negating that which makes Silent Hill so different from other survival horror titles.
To sum it up, I have no interest in Homecoming at all. Now if someone would just step up and give us the next big psychological survival horror game. You know... more like The Shining and less like The Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
Especially the enemies and how they keep getting recycled. They're supposed to be a reflection of the protagonist's psyche and always have very special meanings, if they keep getting thrown into each new title without a second thought, then the developers are essentially negating that which makes Silent Hill so different from other survival horror titles.
To sum it up, I have no interest in Homecoming at all. Now if someone would just step up and give us the next big psychological survival horror game. You know... more like The Shining and less like The Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
Yeah I actuallly just started Silent Hill IV lastnight. I played it for a half an hour... so far it's alright... but after Resident Evil IV I just can't look at any other horror games the same again.
I came to this conclusion ages ago, when I didn't bother buying any of the Silant Hill games. The first game was sweet, just like the second, back when the series was still fresh. Fast forward to now and you see the problem.
Like I've said many times, Konami are not sure what they are doing, beyond MGS4 and ProEvo. The Castlevania Wii game (and Time Hollow on DS) is the most positive and original step I've seen from them in years, but they need to bring more of that.
Silent Hill had been left behind a long time ago. Its just a shame its taken many this long to realise. Unfortunately, its Silent Hill itself that is the problem. Whereas Resident Evil has jumped from the Arklay Mountain facility to various global locations, Silent Hill has stayed in Silent Hill and only odd lost people wonder there. Its like fucking groundhog day now, and badly needs to be blacklisted as a holiday destination. Feels like a bad horror movie series.
In short, this is what I mean about Konami needing new fresh IP, now that MGS is done (but for how long?), they have little I'm excited about.
Capcom, I can get excited about. Lost Planet, Dark Void, Dead Rising plus more, etc, all came after Resident Evil and excite. So why the hell can't Konami do the same? I think Konami should really consider there current plans. Maybe they should seriously think about outsourcing like Capcom, Sega and Square Enix, to bring in new ideas and better approach the global picture, because unfortunately, Silent Hill is still no Resident Evil beater.
Like I've said many times, Konami are not sure what they are doing, beyond MGS4 and ProEvo. The Castlevania Wii game (and Time Hollow on DS) is the most positive and original step I've seen from them in years, but they need to bring more of that.
Silent Hill had been left behind a long time ago. Its just a shame its taken many this long to realise. Unfortunately, its Silent Hill itself that is the problem. Whereas Resident Evil has jumped from the Arklay Mountain facility to various global locations, Silent Hill has stayed in Silent Hill and only odd lost people wonder there. Its like fucking groundhog day now, and badly needs to be blacklisted as a holiday destination. Feels like a bad horror movie series.
In short, this is what I mean about Konami needing new fresh IP, now that MGS is done (but for how long?), they have little I'm excited about.
Capcom, I can get excited about. Lost Planet, Dark Void, Dead Rising plus more, etc, all came after Resident Evil and excite. So why the hell can't Konami do the same? I think Konami should really consider there current plans. Maybe they should seriously think about outsourcing like Capcom, Sega and Square Enix, to bring in new ideas and better approach the global picture, because unfortunately, Silent Hill is still no Resident Evil beater.
I'd also consider RE4 an action/adventure/horror game. A bit like Code Veronica, maybe.
I liked a bit the original Siren, but it had lots of problems. I don't know if they changed the level/save system in the remake.
For now, anyway, I still my copy of Fatal Frame 2 waiting for me to play it..
It's too bad about Silent Hill. Maybe we'll all just have to move on.
I liked a bit the original Siren, but it had lots of problems. I don't know if they changed the level/save system in the remake.
For now, anyway, I still my copy of Fatal Frame 2 waiting for me to play it..
It's too bad about Silent Hill. Maybe we'll all just have to move on.
... duh? It's obvious Konami gives shit all about the series when they start outsourcing it. And unlike Contra, this isn't something that works when you outsource.
Also, totally have hopes for the new Siren and Fatal Frame games.
Also, totally have hopes for the new Siren and Fatal Frame games.
I'm still trying my hardest to keep up with Homecoming. I loved 1, 2 mostest and 3. IV was toss, and this one's being made my Americans. So I'm still trying really hard. There's an arguement for fans taking over the series, but I don't think this should have been handed over to them. It looks weak and sounds weak.
..don't make me turn by brightness up a metric fuckton in order to see what's going on in the game
Amen brother, amen.
..don't make me turn by brightness up a metric fuckton in order to see what's going on in the game
Amen brother, amen.
I stopped liking Silent Hill midway through Silent Hill 4: The Room. The part where Walter becomes an unkillable annoyance and you have to babysit/escort Eileen (who I had cared a great deal about in the first half of the game) made me drop the game in disappointment. Also, fuck the inventory management. If I wanted that, I'd play Resident Evil. I couldn't believe I pre-ordered it. I had hopes for Silent Hill 5, but it looks like it's going to be more of the same.
It's so sad, but at least other series like Siren, as you've mentioned in your article, and Fatal Frame are still going strong.
It's so sad, but at least other series like Siren, as you've mentioned in your article, and Fatal Frame are still going strong.
The Collective Fail. No thanks, keep your piece of shit 'me too' survival/action game. It became apparent long ago these idiots had no idea how to make a decent horror game.
I also fail to see why people get such a massive fucking boner over RE4, I found it to be okay, even enjoyable but it was hardly the second coming of Christ.
I also fail to see why people get such a massive fucking boner over RE4, I found it to be okay, even enjoyable but it was hardly the second coming of Christ.
what I've seen of Silent Hill Homecoming has been solid, but not mindblowing
and when you consider S 1-3 WERE mindblowing in their day well...
still instead of retiring the series why not just bring back Team Silent?
and when you consider S 1-3 WERE mindblowing in their day well...
still instead of retiring the series why not just bring back Team Silent?
I am a huge SH nut as you said DMV, but yeah. I am sadly ready to write off the entire franchise until it sees an RE4-style revitalization, and when I say that, I don't mean "try and copy RE4 by having better combat."
Sadly, SH's style of horror is hard to pull off now that Survival Horror games have evolved themselves into extinction. In today's world, where "zomg next-gen gameplay" is paramount, there is no room for dodgy control schemes and character who are designed not to aim a gun very well. Silent Hill needs to find a way to keep its psychological horror edge while keeping up with the times, and if Homecoming is as bad as it sounds, it seems SH can't actually do it.
That's IF it's as bad as it sounds. I don't have much hope left though.
Sadly, SH's style of horror is hard to pull off now that Survival Horror games have evolved themselves into extinction. In today's world, where "zomg next-gen gameplay" is paramount, there is no room for dodgy control schemes and character who are designed not to aim a gun very well. Silent Hill needs to find a way to keep its psychological horror edge while keeping up with the times, and if Homecoming is as bad as it sounds, it seems SH can't actually do it.
That's IF it's as bad as it sounds. I don't have much hope left though.
I think that after Homecoming, Konami should either bring back Team Silent, or make a completely new horror IP. Also, there are lots of Japanese Konami people working on Homecoming, so it's not completely outsourced. It could come together in the end, you never know.
I think SH and RE are entirely different beasts. When they both started, RE was more like a B-movie sci-fi zombie flick while SH opted a more chilling, subtle atmosphere. While RE used shock moments to scare you, SH gave you that long-lasting impression of fear.
I suddenly remembered myself not being able to sleep properly after watching my cousins play and beat the original Silent Hill.
I suddenly remembered myself not being able to sleep properly after watching my cousins play and beat the original Silent Hill.
You've said it. When I first saw screens of the latest Silent Hill I was like, haven't I played this game before? It's like Konami has no idea what to do and is just going with what worked in the past.
I've said it over and over and over again here on Dtoid: Siren is the best survival horror game ever made. I'm really glad to hear you're doing a proper review of it! I keep meaning to do a review of it myself, seeing as how the new chapters are coming out soon, but, well, you know, I have other things to work on. =)
I'm still dying to play Siren 2, but I can't be bothered to mod my PS2 just for that...
I'm still dying to play Siren 2, but I can't be bothered to mod my PS2 just for that...
I never liked the Silent Hill sequels. The ingenuity and inspiration the series had was mostly spent on the original.
I felt the same pioneering spirit of the original SH in Siren. The disjointed story and tendency to get stuck in corners with no weapons combat kind of spoiled the experience, though.
I felt the same pioneering spirit of the original SH in Siren. The disjointed story and tendency to get stuck in corners with no weapons combat kind of spoiled the experience, though.
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