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We've all been missing out: Carnival Games hits best seller lists photo

Global Star's fairground fun Wii title Carnival Games has been making major showings on sales charts, including coming in at number eight on Amazon.com's Bestsellers (video games) list -- and here we were playing silly titles like BioShock and Persona 3 and such.

If you think that this is just some kind of fluke, then you should know that the very same title has taken the number one position on Bestbuy.com's sales figure charts for week of September 4th through 10th, according to Gamespot

Apparently, there's something to this family-fun carnival game collection. As fun as these Wii-ized  minigames like "ring toss" and "shooting gallery" sound, I haven't had the chance to give this a spin. Have any of the many robots of Destructoid Army tried this title out? Is it really that good, or is it really just "little Timmy" getting his way again?

[thanks, JV] 








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TheStripe's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/15/2007 14:18
TheStripe
This is D-toid, c'mon. Games are about graphics and being on the Xbox 360 or PS3, not fun. Whoever would play a collection of minigames on the Gamecubex2 has got to be some sort of retarded deviant. Who could actually have fun with that underpowered, non HD piece of crap?
Krayven's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/15/2007 14:19
Krayven
Gamespot gave it a 4.5, but you can't really go by their word.
Unforgiventak's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/15/2007 14:20
Unforgiventak
I was really disappointed with it. Sure it resembles every carnival game you could possibly wish to play, the actual game play itself was just a little frustrating to me.
ChillyBilly's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/15/2007 14:26
ChillyBilly
Yea I agree with TheStripe. If a game doesnt look like Bioshock or doesn't run on the 360 or PStriple, or ISNT Halo than it can't possibly be any good. Well, it cant possibly be any good in the eye's of 99.9% of the D-toid fan base as well as basically every D-toid editor out there.

Or can it?
Bob Muir's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/15/2007 14:26
Bob Muir
I saw a mother and her son (old enough to know better) buying in Best Buy the other day. I shed a tear.
Bob Muir's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/15/2007 14:26
Bob Muir
I saw a mother and her son (old enough to know better) buying in Best Buy the other day. I shed a tear.
m3ds's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/15/2007 14:28
m3ds
Haha, in all honesty I didn't even know it was out yet.
Topher Cantler's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/15/2007 14:32
Topher Cantler
Nick made me play it. I give it a negative fifty.
Topher Cantler's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/15/2007 14:32
Topher Cantler
Nick made me play it. I give it a negative fifty.
Dale North's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/15/2007 14:36
Dale North
so, saying that it sounds like fun, as well as saying that there's apparently something to it based on sales means that I was signing off on it and calling it trash?

wow, talk about knee-jerk reactions
TheStripe's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/15/2007 14:38
TheStripe
@Necros - So, how is it? I mean, if you can say the son was making a mistake when picking it up to spend some bonding time with mom, then you've played it, right? Played it out, know all there is to know about it?

Oh wait, of course not. STFU. Don't play games, though, hit yourself in the face with a hammer until you're not able to double post tripe on the Wii posts.
Volcanon's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/15/2007 14:45
Volcanon
HEY! I bought this game on launch day. I was looking more forward to this game than Halo 3. And guess what, I was not disappointed.

Once you get the controls down, it's a lot of fun (or I'm just easily amused).

I don't play the wii too much, but this game gave me a reason to dust it off.
Oninusar's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/15/2007 14:46
Oninusar
you need kids to understand why this is such a hit... well kids that are young and want to play and have fun... and are not all g-funked up with the hizzy YO, that shits so retared, its KID not a baby gangster grow up you cocked hat wearing assfucks! ((sorry i had a flashback of a family of "gangsta's" eating at the chick-filet and this 4year old mentions the juicy ass on a girl that walked by)) I wanted to just get up and slap them all... HARD.
BenHaskett's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/15/2007 14:47
BenHaskett
@ TheStripe



"I don't know about that..."


The game just appeals to people who don't play games... I know a girl named Malinda, for example, who does not play game on a regular basis, and knows I have a Wii. Every time I see her, she'll eventually ask if I've played some game that she thought looked cool after seeing it on a commercial. She's never asked me about mario, metroid, zelda, or any other game that gamers like to play, just shit like Cooking mama and Ratatoullie. The most recent example of this was last weekend, when she asked me if I had picked up Carnival Games. I wanted to think she was joking, but I knew she wasn't. I didn't even know they had commercials for this game! Anyway, she thought it looked like the most fun thing since... slip n' slide.
TheStripe's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/15/2007 14:53
TheStripe
Why should it? Are we so jaded as gamers that we can't appreciate a game that doesn't work within the familiar realms? I admit that I'm not a huge fan of minigame collections. (I got Wii Play for Tanks, that's about it.) However, I don't actually have any confusion about why this game is popular. First, Nintendo's new casual gamers obviously eat it up. Those other wii owners that are just exploring what the system can do while they wait for Mario Galaxies are picking it up, too. I actually really love carnival games. ACTUAL carnival games, though I super hate that it's $3 a try.

In fact, Fuck you haters, I'm going to go buy this right now.
BenHaskett's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/15/2007 15:05
BenHaskett
Doesn't work within the familiar realms?

Angry person, it's a minigame collection with a different coat of paint (lead-based paint!). No matter what premise you wrap around it, it's still just a bunch of minis strung together by a carnival theme.
Justice's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/15/2007 15:06
Justice
Haha you guys are nuts.
zardoz's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/15/2007 15:19
zardoz
If it plays how it should play, then I can't see why this game wouldn't be great.

It's really confusing to me that people would happily play games like this in an arcade and get all teary eyed with nostalgic joy, yet if it appears on the Wii its just another kick in the balls for traditional gaming.

Like I said, if this actually plays well, it's so obviously worth having in a games collection.
Bob Muir's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/15/2007 15:22
Bob Muir
@ The Stripe
Calm the fuck down. I never played it, I'm just going off of the impressions of everyone else who say that's it's boring casual-game tripe. I read enough reviews of games that they all start to blend together, and all that's left is the overall general opinion of the reviewers: it's bad.

I'm not against bonding at all. I do the same thing with my family, with good games. If he wants to bond, get better games like Wii Play, Rayman Raving Rabbids, or Mario Party. Don't buy generic casual games only made to cash in on the recent casual wave. At least buy good ones.
Bob Muir's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/15/2007 15:22
Bob Muir
@ The Stripe
Calm the fuck down. I never played it, I'm just going off of the impressions of everyone else who say that's it's boring casual-game tripe. I read enough reviews of games that they all start to blend together, and all that's left is the overall general opinion of the reviewers: it's bad.

I'm not against bonding at all. I do the same thing with my family, with good games. If he wants to bond, get better games like Wii Play, Rayman Raving Rabbids, or Mario Party. Don't buy generic casual games only made to cash in on the recent casual wave. At least buy good ones.
lubczyk's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/15/2007 15:29
lubczyk
Yes, because we all got into gaming playing "Carnival Games."

The arcades I used to frequent used to include Space Invaders, A game where you're a construction worker with a sledgehammer that goes around smashing people and boxes, and a bike game you ride and need to race and jump over ditches.

The first system I ever had used audio cassette tapes to load data and it about getting from Los Angeles to New York City while avoiding the cops.

The first cartridge system I ever owned was a SNES with Super Mario World.

If all I had to play was "Carnival Games", "Raving Rabbids", and "Wii Sports." I would have never moved on from the fad phase.

These minigames are not going to get people into gaming. They're the same type of people who bought into the "Scooter" fad, The "Karaoke" fad and still only play "Solitaire" on their computer and "Tetris?"

While I personally love "Tetris,"

I don't know any people that have moved on to become what one would call a core gamer from playing "Tetris" and "Solitaire".
smurfee mcgee's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/15/2007 15:35
smurfee mcgee
so, to anyone who's played it, is it worth a buy or at least rent? I need some more games to play while my fucking wussy 360 is at the repair center.
Bob Muir's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/15/2007 15:40
Bob Muir
Oh, and Stripe. I've got a double post bug, so don't complain to me about double posting.
Bob Muir's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/15/2007 15:40
Bob Muir
Oh, and Stripe. I've got a double post bug, so don't complain to me about double posting.
Faith's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/15/2007 15:41
Faith
I rented this game for the weekend and its actually kind of fun. The games are great and a challenge for all ages. The graphics are Mii like but better. Though my avatar has weird boobs.
zardoz's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/15/2007 15:44
zardoz
What? Gaming isn't an orgainsed religion, Carnival Games isn't on a mission to convert people into gamers, it's just a game, that's it. My point is, I don't understand why the possibility of it selling quite well has caused such a strange reaction.

My girlfriend has been playing games as long as anyone I know, and she still just wants to play simple, fun games, so I guess she's not a proper gamer than right?

Who the fuck invented this gaming hierarchy, is there an ancient scroll I haven't seen or something. People are buying carnival Games because it's a pick up and play game on a console which literally let's you pick up and play. If Carnival Games is crap then that's unfortunate for the people who bought it, but so far I don't get why consumers buying Carnival Games is even worthy of a perplexed response.
BluFire's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/15/2007 15:59
BluFire
Ooh, fanboy fight. Delicious.
apesapoppin's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/15/2007 16:50
apesapoppin
I saw about 5 of the minigames. BOOOOOORING. At least the claw game was true to form and never picked anything up. Playing carnival games without that fresh carny smell just isn't the same.
lubczyk's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/15/2007 17:30
lubczyk
@zardoz

There's nothing wrong with playing "Carnival Games" at all. I don't mind if people play Solitaire or Tetris. There is no gaming hierarchy.

I just think its foolish to think that because Wii sold over 10 million units that it translates to 10 million copies of Mario Galaxy being sold.

No it doesn't.

I just hate how Hollywood the gaming industry has become by catering to the lowest common denominator in some respects.

You know movies like Fast and the Furious which sell really well by including a white guy, a black guy, an asian person, a strong willed female, a weak filled female, et cetera.

The gaming industry appealing to people that don't play games is like the movie industry trying to appeal to people who don't watch movies. It's complete crap.

Do you think a movie like Apocalypse Now could be made today?

- No Love Interest

- No Good Guy

- Too long for all the people with supposed ADD/ADHD disorders.

- Doesn't leave you with feel good feeling when you finish watching.

That's what's happening to games I suspect, in some ways.

Games are either too hard for the Hardcore that do nothing but play games, or too easy for the Casual who don't play games.

The Hardcore games have no manual save and autosaves are too far apart, the Casual games don't even require saving because they can be completed in less than a day.

I mean there is EA Playground and Raving Rabbids and bloody Jenga coming cout for the good old price of $50 dollars of pop.

I mean Rock and Electronica can't exactly compete with Pop music, should music companies shift more resources towards Pop music? NO!!!

The best or even a good product doesn't necessarily sell the most,

I mean Family Play and Party Mode are poor trade-offs in the Wii version of Madden 08 for Gang Tackling and the more Advanced AI found in the 360 and PS3 versions.

Arcade Mode is a poor substitute for better AI, Visuals and Air drops in Medal of Honor Heroes 2 on the Wii compared to Airborne on the 360.

The Wiimote is a great concept but it can't compensate for everything that the 360 and PS3 versions of games offer compared to their Wii counterparts.
Arugala9's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/15/2007 17:35
Arugala9
Everybody relax.
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/15/2007 17:42
Jim Sterling
This merely proves that mainstream audiences are stupid pieces of shit. The same reason Carnival Games is selling well is the same reason shows like American Idol are on television. It's not a surprise or a shock in the least.
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/15/2007 17:44
Jim Sterling
And yes, I dared to say something bad about it OH NOES!
pedrovay2003's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/15/2007 17:58
pedrovay2003
Holy crap, people, it's a video game. Don't blow a gasket.

Ever hear of this lovely thing called an "opinion?" Some people like it and some don't. It's not crap, but it's not the greatest thing since sliced bread, either. To each, his/her own.
Xaeser's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/15/2007 18:06
Xaeser
Jim

I'm glad you think my two younger daughters are "stupid pieces of shit" for buying Carnival Games for their Wii and enjoying it, but remember that not everybody plays games for Halo, GTA, GoW, etc.
Arugala9's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/15/2007 18:12
Arugala9
Jeez, I feel kinda bad about not paying for this PPV fight. I've got 20 bucks on the Raging Monocle.
A New Challenger's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/15/2007 18:47
A New Challenger
I was actually interested to see how this game turned out, but saw the Gamespot review that basically said it was Super Monkey Ball: Banana Blitz if you removed the main game and the 5 minigames that were fun.

I've got no problem with people actually enjoying the game (having enjoyed many a blah NES game in my youth,) but the fact that it's selling so well makes me fearful that it will crowd out the games I want to play. I hate the ghetto that is the GBA section of almost any store, all of the good games that aren't Mario or Pokémon get crowded off of shelves by Catz and Dogz and Bratz and That's So Raven and budget puzzle games.
Volcanon's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/15/2007 19:02
Volcanon
This game ownz face!
zardoz's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/15/2007 19:43
zardoz
Well, I find this little era of gaming fascinating, what's happening now with games has already happened in other mediums, it's not nice for purists, and I openly admit I'm a design purist, I want to see games that push the medium into new territory and heights. So I dont particulalry like products like Carnival Games.

But, and this is very important, it is way too easy to just say "mainstream audiences like crap" dust off your hands and walk away, the companies that survived the transition from specialist to mainstream in other mediums, did so by dealing with the change with an open constructive mind, rather than bitching about crap mainstream tastes.

I believe that maistream audiences don't have exclusively bad taste, I just think they will buy whatever is out there, good or bad, which is why it is the responsibility of the producers to create something of quality. Mainstream audiences have given success to too many amazing products to be demonised, some of my favourite films, games, animations, comics have been granted mainstream approval, the success of TV shows like Lost and Heroes, proves that there is a mainstream craving for something of quality (you don't have to like those shows to recognise them as quality productions).

Miyamoto started off pioneering what we now consider traditional gaming, he then perfected this style of gaming which is now annoyingly referred to as hardcore gaming. He has now realised that the videogame industry is going through the same transition all forms of entertainment have to go through, and he has changed his design style completely. That to me is a sign of an amazing designer, and one which won't bitch about the crapness of mainstream tastes. He realised his tradtional games like Zelda were not selling as well as they used to, he didn't put it down to bad taste on the consumers part, he accepted the challenge and changed direction. The result? Phantom Hourgalss, the most accessible Zelda game ever created, which is easily out selling all recent Zelda games.

Sorry Jim, I find your quick fix mainstream bashing rather glib, and it's also a defeatest attitude. I'm a game purist, but I can't agree with your sentiments at all.
Aktrez's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/15/2007 19:52
Aktrez
I actually just did a review of this game. http://wire.ggl.com/2007/09/10/ggn-review-carnival-games/

I honestly really liked it. I've never been a fan of the Wii (personally) but found this game holding my attention quite well!
Quix's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/15/2007 23:05
Quix
This. Game. Sucks.

Rented it. Hated it. The controls are worthless, the graphics are cheesy, the voiceovers are incredibly annoying.

Do not want.
Quix's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/15/2007 23:06
Quix
This. Game. Sucks.

Rented it. Hated it. The controls are worthless, the graphics are cheesy, the voiceovers are incredibly annoying.

Do not want.
thebigghurt's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/15/2007 23:17
thebigghurt
I am one of few but I actually looked forward to this game prolly cuz of some desire to play real life carnival games but not liking to be $#$%ed over. I think its great and its cheaper than playing at the carnival in real life.
Burnt Meatloaf's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/16/2007 00:00
Burnt Meatloaf
I'm just ticked that the amount of work that goes into making a game isn't proportional to its price or sales. I couldn't stay interested developing a game like this.

Activision still won't let Toys for Bob make a new Star Control game. Why? Because they make tons more money releasing minigame button-mashers like Madagascar. A new Star Control would blow away all this stupid FPS wargame crap that's coming out, but... who funds development?

The whole world needs to raise its standards a bit. It's not about graphics, it's about effort.
Aaron Mxy Yost's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/16/2007 05:11
Aaron Mxy Yost
I might actually pick this up used for $10 or so... if only for virtual skeeball.

And who care if this game sells well? The whole idea of "ZOMG CASUAL GAMES ARE POPULAR NO MORE TRADITIONAL GAMES EVAR!" is completely ridiculous. Crappy games often sell well. Terrible movies make millions at the box office while amazing indy flicks never get seen. Shitty pop albums do better than artists with actual talent. This is nothing new. STFUAJPG.
TheStripe's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2007 14:22
TheStripe
I just get tired of those smacking on this game without actually ever playing it. Kudos to both Jim and Quix for playing it before declaring it sucks. Necros, at least rent the game. If you play it, you're allowed to say it sucks. If not, shut up.
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