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Well if I have to go get the download card anyway, and it's the same price as buying the physical cartridge with a case and everything, why wouldn't I just buy the actual physical copy? Especially since, as a general rule, Nintendo first party games hold their resale value. I don't usually sell or trade in my games unless it sucked hard, but that is a real consideration for many people. Though I suppose I'm not very familiar win the state of resale in Japan. I seem to recall it's more difficult there than in the US to sell used games?
No discount, no buying a product that surrenders my ability to re-sell the game when a more friendly alternative is available at the same price point.
Digital download On consoles and handhelds need to be done more like steam.
Initial launch is same as retail, but the prices are dynamic and in control of the publisher or developer, so whenever they feel like it they can put it on sale, or lower the price.
And have lots of ridiculous sales. Like the steam summer sale.
I love steam :(
Initial launch is same as retail, but the prices are dynamic and in control of the publisher or developer, so whenever they feel like it they can put it on sale, or lower the price.
And have lots of ridiculous sales. Like the steam summer sale.
I love steam :(
Can't wait to spend full price on a digital game that's locked to a system and not an account!
Oh the wonderful things that can happen if my 3DS is damaged or stolen.
Nintendo, you're so up to date with online strategy!
Oh the wonderful things that can happen if my 3DS is damaged or stolen.
Nintendo, you're so up to date with online strategy!
How does this work? Each game will have its own "download card"? So it will be just like buying a retail game except you're buy a piece of paper with a code instead of the cartridge? It's going to be interesting to see how well that does.
@CaimDark - Gamestops sell cards for DLC games on PS3 and 360 now, as well as Steam Wallet vouchers. It works rather well, especially if you like trading in for cash off the purchase or don't want your CC info on your PC or gaming hardware.
How do you come to the conclusion that this is a decent start? The cards expire, no discounts, and you actually go to the store to buy the card that you have to go back home, put in a key, and then download the game. Oh, and there are only two games at the start?
Leave it to Nintendo to fuck something up as simple as this.
Leave it to Nintendo to fuck something up as simple as this.
Yeah the card or code system itself is actually pretty great. I won't store my credit card on my Live account so I often buy DLC or downloadable game codes through GameStop or just get a point card. But if there is a physical version available, the download better be cheaper or no dice.
@Silent Protagonists
Yeah they sell vouchers, psn cards and DLC but I've never heard of digital games being sold at retail. I don't see why anyone would want to drive to a store just to buy the code instead of going home with the actual game, though I suppose it's good for those who absolutely must have the digital game and want to buy it with trade-in credits, something I didn't consider at first.
Yeah they sell vouchers, psn cards and DLC but I've never heard of digital games being sold at retail. I don't see why anyone would want to drive to a store just to buy the code instead of going home with the actual game, though I suppose it's good for those who absolutely must have the digital game and want to buy it with trade-in credits, something I didn't consider at first.
@caimdark:Many people seem to miss the main difference: The smart thing will be, that you will be able to buy these cards at Supermarkets and grocery stores, it would be stupid to go to Gamestop to buy a digital code ,for a game, for the same price and give up on the advantages of a physical medium, but if you consider it as an alternative for shops that usually don´t sell boxed games, it is pretty smart. :)
I will still get the physical version it is so shiny....
I will still get the physical version it is so shiny....
And Nintendo once again misses the point completely.
Although the more they screw it up, the more hope I have that all digital won't be a problem for some time.
Although the more they screw it up, the more hope I have that all digital won't be a problem for some time.
So my SD card expires within 150 days, there are no discounts, no added incentivizes, and I don't even get a physical copy of the game.
I hope we're missing something here, other this just further proves that Nintendo still doesn't comprehend online services.
I hope we're missing something here, other this just further proves that Nintendo still doesn't comprehend online services.
So in three years, are you going to have to flip through 100s of cards to find the game you want, or does this just mean they have no intention of making more than 20 or so games downloadable?
Umm, guys, the cards aren't the only ways to download them. You can also go to the eshop dirrectly or buy a code from online stores like Amazon. Also, how can you guys be angry that nintendo isn't doing sales? None of the big 3 do this, the only one that seems to do this is Sony with the vita but you are still getting ripped off because of the memory cards so you don't end us saving money at all.
I think the more important note here is that with the release of NSMPB2 it marks the start of Nintendo DLC, I'm looking forward to see how that works for them.
Now related to the cards, I think it's just an option, of course nobody is forcing you to buy the game this way but there is always that guy who does find it more convenient (yes even at full retail price). I think when Nintendo finally crunches those numbers and see how people react to the price and whatnot, they could consider reducing the price a bit (it's a very small chance, but a chance after all).
Now related to the cards, I think it's just an option, of course nobody is forcing you to buy the game this way but there is always that guy who does find it more convenient (yes even at full retail price). I think when Nintendo finally crunches those numbers and see how people react to the price and whatnot, they could consider reducing the price a bit (it's a very small chance, but a chance after all).
As others have said, this comes off as pointless to me. It's as if Nintendo thinks the only reason people want to download things is because they despise physical games.
I'm a collector, so I prefer physical games. You gotta get some incentives in there if you ever want me to choose a download over a cartridge/disc.
I'm a collector, so I prefer physical games. You gotta get some incentives in there if you ever want me to choose a download over a cartridge/disc.
Guys, the cards are one method of downloading them, as santiagodelossantos mentioned. They will also be available via the eShop. Not to mention, there ARE incentives to get the download- Nintendo is giving out double the amount of Club Nintendo coins, and at least in Japan they also give a free download of Donkey Kong from the VC.
@Nick Jones- it's not the SD card that expires, it's the actual download code on the game's card. Although, I'm not sure why anyone would wait five months to install the game...it is pretty silly of Nintendo regardless.
@Nick Jones- it's not the SD card that expires, it's the actual download code on the game's card. Although, I'm not sure why anyone would wait five months to install the game...it is pretty silly of Nintendo regardless.
http://www.destructoid.com/nintendo-adds-incentives-to-digital-downloads-in-japan-231711.phtml
There's the source, in case anyone was wondering.
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2012/07/new_super_mario_bros_2_eshop_bonus_confirmed_for_north_america
Here's one that mentions the deal will come to North America also, though sadly it lacks the VC download.
There's the source, in case anyone was wondering.
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2012/07/new_super_mario_bros_2_eshop_bonus_confirmed_for_north_america
Here's one that mentions the deal will come to North America also, though sadly it lacks the VC download.
@ hardy83, just wanted to let you know that if your 3ds breaks, sending it in to Nintendo, they'll transfer the account. they'll do the same if it's stolen, you'll have to send them a copy of a police report. It's the same with the wii too...so uh, yeah...
It is not worth it for full retail price. What if you lose the system or it gets stolen you lose the game as well as your 3ds.
"[Update: As it turns out, the cards are discounted, if only slightly. Hopefully this will make it other regions.]"
Great job on your report there sir. Anymore misinformation you'd care to provide for us?
Also I like how you conveniently forget to mention that Club Nintendo members will get double the reward coins for buying this digitally.
Great job on your report there sir. Anymore misinformation you'd care to provide for us?
Also I like how you conveniently forget to mention that Club Nintendo members will get double the reward coins for buying this digitally.
Even WITH a discount, there's no way in hell I'm ever buying a single one of these paper wastes of money. That's like begging for DRM, which also means that people will eat these up, if the PC is any indication, unfortunately.
I don't know how they are in Japan, but SD cards are cheap, the size of the download shouldn't really bother many people.
If it was the Vita on the other hand... (which, funny enough, is as such on the Vita if you have a 4gb card.. So really not a lot of difference really)
@Zezzler
Blame the publishers who think they should get top dollar all the time, instead of being competitive in the market. Even if they were being competitive they'd still be getting paid directly, but instead choose to be something teetering towards greedy.
@Caim
Think of it this way, its no different then buying DLC at Gamestop right now. I don't know how Japan handles trade ins, but if these were to come here it'd be the same thing, trade in your games and use the credit for a digital game, if you'd like.
Is that logic backwards? Yes. Will people do it? Undoubtedly.
If it was the Vita on the other hand... (which, funny enough, is as such on the Vita if you have a 4gb card.. So really not a lot of difference really)
@Zezzler
Blame the publishers who think they should get top dollar all the time, instead of being competitive in the market. Even if they were being competitive they'd still be getting paid directly, but instead choose to be something teetering towards greedy.
@Caim
Think of it this way, its no different then buying DLC at Gamestop right now. I don't know how Japan handles trade ins, but if these were to come here it'd be the same thing, trade in your games and use the credit for a digital game, if you'd like.
Is that logic backwards? Yes. Will people do it? Undoubtedly.
@RockWall
"Anymore misinformation you'd care to provide for us?"
Nope, because that's what "updates" are for.
"Also I like how you conveniently forget to mention that Club Nintendo members will get double the reward coins for buying this digitally."
Already did that.
"Anymore misinformation you'd care to provide for us?"
Nope, because that's what "updates" are for.
"Also I like how you conveniently forget to mention that Club Nintendo members will get double the reward coins for buying this digitally."
Already did that.
@Chris Carter
If these comments are any indication, some people are going to jump on the apparent lack of incentives unless the information is provided in the post. Even if it seems redundant, it may be a good idea to mention it again anyways so that incorrect/incomplete information doesn't spread around.
If these comments are any indication, some people are going to jump on the apparent lack of incentives unless the information is provided in the post. Even if it seems redundant, it may be a good idea to mention it again anyways so that incorrect/incomplete information doesn't spread around.
Amazon Japan has NSMB2 l(Physical, I believe) isted at about 3,800 yen... Down from 4,800 yen.
Is the MSRP 4800, and not 3800?
Is the MSRP 4800, and not 3800?
I would also like to add that I hope to see better prices in the near future... as while 300 yen is a somewhat decent "discount"(equivalent to about $5) it is far from what I would like to see.
I'm trying to estimate how much cheaper a digital copy would have to be in order to get me to buy it over a physical copy, and it's a LOT more than that. I'm not faulting Nintendo, I just like my "real" copies.
If its 10% off that would be good enough for me. Just not having to carry around cartridges is great and I rarely sell off my games anyway.
People seem to forget that Steam games are locked to a PC as these will be locked to a 3DS. Its really the same deal yet people just seem far more forgiving when Valve do anything. Give it a chance and see how prices go on the eshop and with the cards after a month or two before everyone comes to conclusions. Also as one of the earlier posters mentioned you get some VC titles when you purchase a title off the eshop.
People seem to forget that Steam games are locked to a PC as these will be locked to a 3DS. Its really the same deal yet people just seem far more forgiving when Valve do anything. Give it a chance and see how prices go on the eshop and with the cards after a month or two before everyone comes to conclusions. Also as one of the earlier posters mentioned you get some VC titles when you purchase a title off the eshop.
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Chris, I'm not sure why having the default SD card will influence the amount of blocks those two games make up, but then again, I have the flu.
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