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Warranty woes: Microsoft feels the pain photo

When Peter Moore announced a new three year warranty for all Xbox 360s affected by the notorious red rings of death, Microsoft was applauded for its up front, honest and somewhat humble approach. While fans rejoiced (somewhat), the head honchos at Microsoft were slightly less pleased with the way things were going. Take for example, Microsoft's CEO, Steve Ballmer, who apparently felt the sting of the decision.

“We have to learn from our mistakes. It was painful to announce the write-off that we had to announce, and yet we knew we had to take care of our customers," Ballmer stated, although in saying "our customers," I think he meant to say "our public image." Of course it was painful for Microsoft to bring forth the warranty extension, considering it cost the company millions of dollars, but let's face it -- nobody who's had to replace as many machines as Brian Crecente will crack out the violins and play softly for the agony of those men in suits. 

[Via DailyTech








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Magesx's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/01/2007 14:50
Magesx
STEVE BALLMER IS GOING TO FUCKING KILL WHOEVER MADE THAT DECISION
Arcanum's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/01/2007 15:00
Arcanum
That's a viola
Pistolaero's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/01/2007 15:00
Pistolaero
I could care two shits about some high up in a rich company complaining about this. You guys fucked up and the consumer should not be the one to pay for it.
Copyright 2008 Agent Chieftain's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/01/2007 15:11
Copyright 2008 Agent Chieftain
Steve Ballmer is going to Fucking Kill™ Peter Moore.

I'm gonna get this in Pay-Per-View.
relik's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/01/2007 15:30
relik
I thought that was Sid James of Carry On fame in that picture for a moment.
Samit Sarkar's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/01/2007 15:39
Samit Sarkar
“Millions of dollars”? I thought it was $1.5 billion...

Man, I feel bad for Brian Crecente. I wonder if he has a PS3, because if he does, it almost certainly has no issues of the sort...
Samit Sarkar's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/01/2007 15:46
Samit Sarkar
And Ballmer said it was “painful”? Well, I fucking hope so, considering the shitty hardware his company designed. My brother got a 360 for Christmas, and while it hasn’t conked out yet (fingers crossed), he can’t use it in the vertical position — even though it was supposedly designed to be able to be used that way — because after about 15 minutes of playing a disc, it says that it can no longer read it. Are you serious? I keep my PS3 on 24/7 so it can fold proteins (currently, I’m #18 on the PlayStation.com Forums Team with 331 work units completed), and it’s always in the vertical position. I haven’t had a single problem with it yet, and I got it on New Year’s Eve. Say what you want about Sony and the PS3 (PR-wise and price-wise, at least)...but at least they can design a solid piece of hardware.
gamesronlygames's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/01/2007 15:53
gamesronlygames
Most people shrug this all off knowing MS has Bill Gates and almost all the money in the world. If it were any other company ....money covers a multitude of sins...Who cares about the warranty-if youve got a good product you dont need one. Iam sure its comforting knowing you have to wait a month for a replacement that will need to be replaced again. It should be called spawn360.
Maurice Tan's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/01/2007 15:59
Maurice Tan
Ballmer probably killed some developers developers developers developers before he went out and used moderately appeasing language. But yeah fuck him, make decent hardware the next time!

This being a Jim Sterling post, I await the next 150 posts.
gamesronlygames's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/01/2007 16:05
gamesronlygames
Iam waiting for Jim to justify MS and slam PS3 in all this. If the ps3 were behind this I can help but think they would get a lot more shit for it. But no its "what great customer service,blah, blah blah-as if they shouldnt do what they are doing AND MORE.
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/01/2007 16:06
Jim Sterling
"Iam waiting for Jim to justify MS and slam PS3 in all this."

And that pretty much proves that your only reason for reading my stuff is to get upset and scream about the PS3. Thanks for proving me right about the guys who get upset by my posts.

They're only reading what they want to read.
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/01/2007 16:07
Jim Sterling
Oh, and for the record? I slammed MS and called them out on not recalling the Xbox 360 the other day. So again, nice try.

Stop looking for a bias that is not there.
golemnist's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/01/2007 16:11
golemnist
And some people were lauding the extended warranty as if MS had come down from on high to deliver unto the lowly masses manna from Heaven, and weren't they so nice for doing this and shouldn't everyone stop picking on them?
If they hadn't made a crappy product they wouldn't have had to the extend the warranty for the RROD, which by the way, didn't cover my 360 when it started scratching my discs.
Quest's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/01/2007 16:12
Quest
@ gamesronlygames

loll i'm thinking the same ...i'm also sure somebody here will blame sony or the PS3 for this lollll
gamesronlygames's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/01/2007 16:12
gamesronlygames
Iam just giving you a hard time. Dont get so frustrated about. I dont read all your posts. You just happen to have the best posts out there. Yes I think your a bit biased against the ps3 but I think its all in good fun. Which should come out in most of my remarks. Cheers
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/01/2007 16:13
Jim Sterling
golemnist: I applauded the honesty of it at first, because it's not something you see a major corporation do -- admit fault. But since the warranty extension, it's certainly become clear that it isn't enough. They later admitted that they know every 360 is faulty, and won't recall. Anybody expecting me to justify something like that is a silly person.
gamesronlygames's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/01/2007 16:14
gamesronlygames
@ Quest
Iam sure Sony is at fault in all this too lol
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/01/2007 16:15
Jim Sterling
gamesronlygames: You'd be surprised. I wanted to buy a PS3 just today, since I saw one super cheap. Were my cash not tied up, I'd have snapped it pretty sharpish. I want some Heavenly Sword, yo.
gamesronlygames's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/01/2007 16:16
gamesronlygames
Iam rather silly if you get to know me. The fact I read gaming blogs and enjoy stirring the pot is a clue. cheers
Sony FTW
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/01/2007 16:18
Jim Sterling
Well of course. Verbally jousting with the readers is always good for a laff, eh wot?
gamesronlygames's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/01/2007 16:24
gamesronlygames
All in good fun. You're a good man. Mr. Sterling. (now that you've embraced the darkside) lol Heavenly Sword is a blast. A short one at that. That system will slowly pull away in a years time-like the tortoise and the hare. MS was in such a dither to get its unfinshed hardware out when they knew Sony was bringing out the big guns. Its great and all-they have a lot of games but there isnt much growing room under that hood-Sony, like the tortoise, will smile as they slowly overtake the frantic rabbit of Redmond-sure, fanboys will be playing halo 5 or 6, each with its own new xbox hardware every other year while the ps3 still chuggs along for the next 5 years or so showing everyone what a next gen is all about...gotta go stir another pot. Cheers
MailboxHead's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/01/2007 16:29
MailboxHead
"Write Off" =? no pay taxes on the loss.... (if i remember accounting at all) wheeee
Quest's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/01/2007 16:43
Quest
Quest says:
08/01/2007 16:12
@ gamesronlygames

loll i'm thinking the same ...i'm also sure somebody here will blame sony or the PS3 for this lollll

Come on Jim i just want to share with you the feeling i'm having by reading bads stuff againts my favorite console all the time i see most of the time Bullshit about PS3 by people who don't even own a PS3.

right now i see lot of good news regarding the PS3 and again i still read some bad stuff on this site for no good reason ... not from you but by unfair xbox fanboys ... i must say since last W-E you put an hold on the negativity of the PS3 and getting more fair with it ... by the way to tell you the truth ... i'm not really impress by the heavenly sword demo ...to show you that i'm not so fanboy like you think ... i won't tell people here that the game is hot when i'm not sur about it

yeah sony made some mistakes i agree with you ...but they also made good announcement but they never received any good credit for that ... except recently 'cause the 360 is not in a good period

right now i'm testing PS home ... many people are complaning about it .... some of them never had a chance to see it in personn ... sure there's not many stuff right now ... hey it's only a beta ... just give it some time

Jim I love you :)))))) ¸

Your friendly neighborhood

Quest
golemnist's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/01/2007 17:22
golemnist
@Jim: I wasn't going after anything you said personally. To be honest, I was not sure what your stance was on the warranty!
I was referring to some people that I know of.
Alaphic's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/01/2007 17:26
Alaphic
This really has made me want to pick up one of the RRoD 360s that sell for cheap on ebay. Theoretically, could I not send it in for a warranty replacement as well?
SniperFodder's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/01/2007 18:15
SniperFodder
I'm on my fifth 360, I hope it red-rings in the next 18 months so I can at least get the additional cooling on a newly repaired unit. I also have a PS3 (and a Wii for that matter), but they don't get near the play time my 360 does. I think MS knows that with an attach rate of 6+ most people have too much invested to walk away. I love my 360, but I feel like I got a ripped off from them. I'll just get my money back from MS in other ways...
Quest's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/01/2007 18:26
Quest
just want to let you i found this guys

:)))))))

http://www.gamepro.com/news.cfm?article_id=126688
SniperFodder's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/01/2007 19:25
SniperFodder
@Quest
I never would have guessed you were a PS3 fanboy. Shocker.
Quest's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/01/2007 19:59
Quest
@ SniperFodder

and your not a 360 fanboy right !?! with your fifth 360 telling us how you love your 360 lolll

so next time ... learn to shut it down fanboy ;)
Quest's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/01/2007 20:03
Quest
@ Hells_666

me bad Hells lollll next time i'll give all the links available like this one

http://www.dfcint.com/game_article/july07article.html

:))) see now you have full info
Civnerd's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/01/2007 20:42
Civnerd
I still think Pirate Crescente spilled his rum all over them..... me hearty! it not be a coasterrrr!
nightmareci's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/01/2007 21:22
nightmareci
@ Hells_666
You pretty much nailed my major complaint with the majority of "systems" products that Microsoft makes (operating systems and their game systems, stuff that is low-level to design/make). Microsoft does a decent job making non-systems software, like their Office products, but they've always not gone all the way and made their "systems" products the best they can be. I know they really could make "systems" products that aren't so problem-prone (virus' and others for Windows and RROD and others for 360) if they'd just design it right from the start, and not fork it off something that's already problematic (360's OS is Windows based... but only slightly, now).

But, since Sony has always been in the hardware business (and thus "systems" products) their hardware (not just their game systems, like their CD players and whatnot) is a bit better designed from the start, because they simply couldn't afford to replace ALL their hardware products if they failed. We see this in the PS3's resilience to failure (but this can't be said of older PS2/PS1 models... newest ones aren't so prone to failure, though). I'm not a fan of either companies' products, I just am stating what I'm seeing in their products and their history. I really do want both systems, but currently I'd only buy a PS3, seeing that it likely won't fail on me, and the hard drive upgradeability is another major plus.
SniperFodder's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/01/2007 21:25
SniperFodder
@Quest
Apparently you have difficulty reading the entire post, or is it just your attention span?
kittridge's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/01/2007 21:51Image Hosted by ImageShack.us</a><br/>
kittridge
@Quest. You're a real douchebag. Do Sony a favor and kill yourself because you're only antagonizing potential buyers.

That being said, I'm very disappointed with MS. They've put me through the ringer time and time again, where I now find myself wishing I would get the RRoD, just so I wouldn't have to pay for repair.Also, Microsoft is incredibly silent in my opinion. They won't answer any questions or fill us in on anything but their next money maker. Personally, I'm sick and tired of being ignored, lied to, and cheated.

Eff Steve Ballmer. He's not losing any sleep over this. He probably cashed in on his stock the same time Robbie Bach did. I hope he can't sleep at night (actually I hope for much worse but I don't like to be mean, publicly).
Aaron Mxy Yost's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/01/2007 23:33
Aaron Mxy Yost
Blaming other fanboys for your fanboyism still makes you a fanboy.
Diomeneus's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/02/2007 00:15
Diomeneus
I'm noticing Mr. Sterling's articles tend to take on a rather negative approach to any given topic lately... I don't mind I just find it interesting. Do you happen to be a skeptic Jim?

:P
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/02/2007 06:12
Jim Sterling
Ha, I do admit I'm finding a lot to be pissed off about lately, Diomeneus. Which is a shame of course.
thisissami's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/02/2007 12:18
thisissami
@Agent Chieftan

maybe that's why peter moore quit microsoft? maybe steve ballmer actually fired him!!!
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