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"play the story"... yeah, that's what video games are! The footage does look good, and the facial animations shown look REALLY good.
I just hope that there aren't a lot of cut scenes... I'm just personally not a fan of watching a game's story.
(and it would be awesome if that female character shown at the beginning is playable!!)
I just hope that there aren't a lot of cut scenes... I'm just personally not a fan of watching a game's story.
(and it would be awesome if that female character shown at the beginning is playable!!)
"Movie you can play" AH FUCK THIS GAME NOW.
@Elsa
I belive she is in MP. BUT WHAT DO YOU KNOW YOU'RE NOT COMPETITIVE YOU HATE ESPORTS GAAAAAAAAAWWWD. ;D. Jk.
@Elsa
I belive she is in MP. BUT WHAT DO YOU KNOW YOU'RE NOT COMPETITIVE YOU HATE ESPORTS GAAAAAAAAAWWWD. ;D. Jk.
Do we really cock sucking and spunking nub's in our stories? I know Jim Sterling tries his best to be the "bad boy" of video game bloggers, but come on.
" I maintain that it's a disservice to games to want them to emulate films"
There is room in gaming for all kinds of genres and types. If there are people out there who want games which play like movies, then that type of game should be made. I don't have a problem with the existence of a game simply because it's of a type I'm uninterested in. I don't personally care for platformers, but other people do, so I hope they keep making them.
All of that being said, KillZone 3 was one of the most movie-like games I've played this generation, and you gave it a perfect score.
There is room in gaming for all kinds of genres and types. If there are people out there who want games which play like movies, then that type of game should be made. I don't have a problem with the existence of a game simply because it's of a type I'm uninterested in. I don't personally care for platformers, but other people do, so I hope they keep making them.
All of that being said, KillZone 3 was one of the most movie-like games I've played this generation, and you gave it a perfect score.
"All of that being said, KillZone 3 was one of the most movie-like games I've played this generation, and you gave it a perfect score."
So?
Intent does not automatically impact quality.
So?
Intent does not automatically impact quality.
I hope this doesn't suck. If it doesn't, I don't care what the hell they want to call it... VIDJAGAEMZ
"Exactly."
Yeah, but nobody's talking about the quality of Space Marine. So your comment is utterly meaningless. It might be good, I simply said I wasn't a fan of the attitude in the dev blog.
Yeah, but nobody's talking about the quality of Space Marine. So your comment is utterly meaningless. It might be good, I simply said I wasn't a fan of the attitude in the dev blog.
"Yeah, but nobody's talking about the quality of Space Marine. So your comment is utterly meaningless. It might be good, I simply said I wasn't a fan of the attitude in the dev blog"
No, you said you don't want a movie you can play. I think it doesn't matter, as long as it's a good game, which you then seemed to agree with. Make up your mind.
No, you said you don't want a movie you can play. I think it doesn't matter, as long as it's a good game, which you then seemed to agree with. Make up your mind.
I can understand that they want to have the experience of a film in a game based on a film, but... this game is based on a miniature game. I really hope there won't be a love story in the plot of the game... because that is very hollywood and it would ruin the game.
Couldn't agree more with you.
Games aren't movies. Very simple. Sure, a game may tell a story similar to the way a movie might, but it boils down to the gameplay, which is what matters most, at least to me.
People should make games to be.... Well, games. Don't compare the two; they're completely different mediums.
Games aren't movies. Very simple. Sure, a game may tell a story similar to the way a movie might, but it boils down to the gameplay, which is what matters most, at least to me.
People should make games to be.... Well, games. Don't compare the two; they're completely different mediums.
"No, you said you don't want a movie you can play. I think it doesn't matter, as long as it's a good game, which you then seemed to agree with. Make up your mind."
I don't consider Killzone 3 a movie I can play. From what I've played of Space Marine, it's not a movie I can play.
Fucking Dragon's Lair was a movie I could play, and that is a *shit* game.
I don't consider Killzone 3 a movie I can play. From what I've played of Space Marine, it's not a movie I can play.
Fucking Dragon's Lair was a movie I could play, and that is a *shit* game.
'Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine is a 'movie you can play''
This is supposed to be appealing? Games > movies. Why would I want to play a damned movie when I can play a video game? Damn.
This is supposed to be appealing? Games > movies. Why would I want to play a damned movie when I can play a video game? Damn.
As long as this movie I'm playing is heavy on the "playing" aspect. I love me a good cutscene and I love me a great story. Since the main thing that got me into 40K was the books and not the models I'm always hoping for a good story in my 40K product.
But again, as long as there is a delightful amount of chopping, shooting, and praising the name of the Emperor all throughout.
But again, as long as there is a delightful amount of chopping, shooting, and praising the name of the Emperor all throughout.
Just don't suck. I've been waiting for a good Warhammer third person shooter. I hope they story is good.
I watched one of the developer diaries for this game. They were talking about how most 3rd person shooters use cover, and the team had decided to one-up them and be different by not using cover. Which means they've basically gone back to the start and it'll be like a 3rd person shooter from 8 years ago. Which means I'm not buying their schtick.
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Also Alex, if you know much about W40 Space Marines are not about pussyfooting around in cover. It's about charging in with a bolter till you're close enough to be slashing with a chainsword, and taking down an army that would make the Dynasty Warriors cringe all in the name of a Dead/Immortal God Emperor of Mankind.
If they had a cover system (Marines in lore do use cover obviously because tactics, though more often it's briefly till they charge in) they'd probably end up worried you wouldn't get to feel like the badass that the Space Marines are meant to invoke. I know that if I want a tactic cover grindfest, I'll go to gears of war, but for badassness? Yeah Space Marine might fit the bill nicely.
Also Alex, if you know much about W40 Space Marines are not about pussyfooting around in cover. It's about charging in with a bolter till you're close enough to be slashing with a chainsword, and taking down an army that would make the Dynasty Warriors cringe all in the name of a Dead/Immortal God Emperor of Mankind.
If they had a cover system (Marines in lore do use cover obviously because tactics, though more often it's briefly till they charge in) they'd probably end up worried you wouldn't get to feel like the badass that the Space Marines are meant to invoke. I know that if I want a tactic cover grindfest, I'll go to gears of war, but for badassness? Yeah Space Marine might fit the bill nicely.
@AlexMorgaen: Why? For me this brings something else to the table than the now common adventures of Chesty McChesthigh-wall. I fucking hate game mechanics that glue your character to a wall, is crouching not enough? And besides this will hopefully make map design actually interesting and not flat spaces with randomly placed walls that you sit by to.
If we already have 'Generic space marine:the movie' why would we want 'Generic space marine:the movie:the game'? The GW franchises are hardly a gold mine for great narratives to begin with without the cheesy cliches that I saw in this trailer.
From what Ive seen of the gameplay it should be a fun game but I won't hold my breath for a decent story. That said, I am really hoping that I've just been rubbed the wrong way from the clash between the "We figure out the key tenets of those storys that really resonate with people" and "Was Dat Suppossed Ta 'Urt?"/"Dont worry captain, I left some for you."
Color me Un-Resonated
From what Ive seen of the gameplay it should be a fun game but I won't hold my breath for a decent story. That said, I am really hoping that I've just been rubbed the wrong way from the clash between the "We figure out the key tenets of those storys that really resonate with people" and "Was Dat Suppossed Ta 'Urt?"/"Dont worry captain, I left some for you."
Color me Un-Resonated
That video had a spoiler. Then again, the Inquisitor joining Chaos doesn't surprise me. They always turn rogue, even the best of them like Eisenhorn. It's inevitable. Anyway, I hope this game is good and sells good. I want an RPG called Inquisitor someday. Shit would be ballin.
@ MorgonCB
I'm sorry for double posting, but I have to say in response to your comment "The GW franchises are hardly a gold mine for great narratives to begin with... ", actually it's quite amazing how well the literature for 40K generally is in general. You can never go wrong picking up a book by Dan Abnett or Graham McNeil, and there are many more authors who contribute to the Black Library (a publisher exclusively for the GW franchises).
I'm sorry for double posting, but I have to say in response to your comment "The GW franchises are hardly a gold mine for great narratives to begin with... ", actually it's quite amazing how well the literature for 40K generally is in general. You can never go wrong picking up a book by Dan Abnett or Graham McNeil, and there are many more authors who contribute to the Black Library (a publisher exclusively for the GW franchises).
*groan* Aww man. They make it sound soo bad.
Look, I fething love 40k. Love everything about it so I am already excited for this game. But the whole "we want it to be like a movie you can play." and going on and on about the sound like its something never seen before just really makes it sound like you are trying too hard.
I don't want a "movie I can play". Heavy Rain and Fahrenheit were garbage. They need to stop it with the annoying hype that every company does nowadays and just make a good game. The more they talk about how unique and amazing it is the more everyone is going to be disappointed when it does not live up to it.
If it really is that damn good then leave it to *us* to say that after its been released.
They are selling a 40k games to mainly 40k fans. We dont need the over sell. Deliver a good product without the typical fawning over it and let us do the fawning.
Oh and for the love of the God Emperor, they need to give us the option to pick Ork blood colour. Greenskins have green blood (or deep purple according to some). Feth GWs retcon.
Look, I fething love 40k. Love everything about it so I am already excited for this game. But the whole "we want it to be like a movie you can play." and going on and on about the sound like its something never seen before just really makes it sound like you are trying too hard.
I don't want a "movie I can play". Heavy Rain and Fahrenheit were garbage. They need to stop it with the annoying hype that every company does nowadays and just make a good game. The more they talk about how unique and amazing it is the more everyone is going to be disappointed when it does not live up to it.
If it really is that damn good then leave it to *us* to say that after its been released.
They are selling a 40k games to mainly 40k fans. We dont need the over sell. Deliver a good product without the typical fawning over it and let us do the fawning.
Oh and for the love of the God Emperor, they need to give us the option to pick Ork blood colour. Greenskins have green blood (or deep purple according to some). Feth GWs retcon.
The best example of a playable movie is obviously Minecraft. Such an epic story, and those plot twists! Oh how I cringe.
Well, from what I played of the demo at the Manchester Expo, it's looking disappointing. It's pretty much (to me, it could be entirely different) a Gears clone, from the third person nature, to the character models and even down to the controls and HUD, but without the varied levels. Which kinda sucks. I just hope it was a crappy tech demo.
Considering the quality of the Ultramarines CG movie, I have no problems with Relic attempting to tell a properly cinematic 40k story in a videogame. If the quality of these trailers are anything to go by, they're clearly much better qualified.
@Davedude
I know, Ive been playing the games since the age of 12 and I've read quite a few of the BL books but they nearly always wheel out the same basic plot of either a glorified witchhunt or a faultering war. That said there are some nice books, the last chancers and Ciaphas Cain are weird parodys of the norm while Lord of the Night and a couple of others branch out more.
My real complaint is that they could do more for the story other that what appears to be a string of cliche one liners and a cut scene or three with big explosions. On the plus side they seem to have the Orks and Marines conform to the fluff :)
I know, Ive been playing the games since the age of 12 and I've read quite a few of the BL books but they nearly always wheel out the same basic plot of either a glorified witchhunt or a faultering war. That said there are some nice books, the last chancers and Ciaphas Cain are weird parodys of the norm while Lord of the Night and a couple of others branch out more.
My real complaint is that they could do more for the story other that what appears to be a string of cliche one liners and a cut scene or three with big explosions. On the plus side they seem to have the Orks and Marines conform to the fluff :)
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