Someone needs to go restrain Jonathan Holmes before he straight murders this guy. Sheesh.

i think he's bang on the money. The Wii was brilliant for a week after i got it, perhaps a couple of hours after getting WiiFit and made the 3rd play through of Godfather that bit more brutal (motion control executions!)

But I've not touched it for a long time, got a new telly and decided not even to plug it in. Gave it to my parents (old people) who only really turn it on for the neices and nephews (little kids).

So yeah I think he's hit the nail on the head there.

Although, the Mega Drive was fucking bad boy for it's day. It was THE console for cuttng edge gaming (oh my god this industry moves fast) but I still have mine in the loft, too many memories.

The only person in line to hurt this guy would be Holmes...

As much as you might want to argue with the guy he does have a point. While the Wii does have some good 3rd party games for it the vast majority of the games out on it are your basic shovelware. Kitchy games to keep the wagglers wagglin. I own a Wii. And like sexualchocloate said when I first got it I liked it. Playing Zelda then Mario and moving on to No More Heroes. Even my folks got into it with Wii sports a little. But since the end of last summer I haven't turned the thing on once. And while Mad World looked cool I couldn't get myself to get it, there are too many titles I've yet to play through on my PS3 to give it a go.

i admire Nintendo for putting out a console that doesnt measure up to the industries standards and still outselling its competitors...ill stick with my gamecube.

It is sad that the third parties aren't getting their due when they do make a great game for the Wii. I'm really hoping that it changes soon. House of the Dead: Overkill was well worth my money. As were Zack & Wiki and Okami before it. It would be a shame if the tide doesn't turn. I need to play a Wii sequel to Resident Evil 4 (that's not a Chronicles game [though, I'm eagerly anticipating that]). There's a lot of fun experiences that we're missing out on because of the audience that the big N is catering to.

Do you think if Nintendo was more considerate of it's "core" fans, they'd be more apt to purchase the games that are made for them on the system? Are we not buying really good 3rd party games because we feel that Nintendo has slighted us?

Couldn't agree more with you DaedHead8, but i also really liked deadly creatures for some odd reason...there was a period of drought on the wii, i must admit, but i think the tide is changing.

Poor Wii.
This is, what, the fourth time or so that some industry person publicly bashed the system? Let's see if old Petey backpedals tomorrow like the others.

The sad fact is, Nintendo is marching to its own drumbeat, as it always has, but their system for "kids and old people" is still outselling everything else out there (aside from its own DS, maybe), so as long as that's happening I don't think anybody in the suit department is going to care one way or the other.

Their third party lineup may suck for the most part, only having the occasional gem (Madworld, No More Heroes), but it mostly seem like Wii bashing is the in thing to do. Nintendo is making money, which is giving them the opportunity to go in their own direction, and for some reason people seem to be outraged by this.

Hell, kids and old people deserve a system to play, too. If Nintendo wants to make a "casual" system, for a different segment of gaming audience, then more power to them. How many of those kids are going to get hooked on games and eventually buy something like a 360 or PS3? My grandmother (a rumored "old person") is playing video games, something I never thought I would see. So Nintendo is bringing the idea of games to a whole new audience. I may play my 360 more than my Wii, but that doesn't mean that I don't appreciate what Nintendo is trying to accomplish.

Man, though, that Genesis reference? Wanat should be publicly apologizing for THAT. Any system that brought the world Sonic, Shining Force, and Phantasy Star is deserving of reverence!

I don't see Wanted getting any awards.

I think the best part of the show was when the dudes running the whole thing did NOT call Wanat out on his dubious claims. Even the most disgruntled of the anti-Wii gamers should have called him out on what sounded like sour grapes more than anything. And why was Wanat sour? Because the ONE game he brought to the Wii, a port of Scarface: The World Is Yours, did not set the world on fire. Yeah, Pete, I can see how that game's less-than-ideal performance in the market could completely shatter your expectations of what can succeed on the platform.

Nintendo is making too much money off of the Wii now. They don't care if 3rd parties suck on their console.

Fuck you. The genesis was the shit.

Every weekend have 6-8 friends come over to play mariokart. Half are girlfriends who maybe played some SNES back in the day, but otherwise don't game. No other system can do that. Wii is the opposite of Genesis anyway. Wii vs ps3/360 is more like NES vs Gen (til SNES came out)

The entire group on Invisible Walls poke fun at ANYTHING! Its a good pod cast. I think what he says has truth to it, hes a developer not an xbox or sony fanboy saying the Wii sucks. He knows how to code and direct games and he has worked on all three current gen platforms so I think he does know what hes talking about.

Protip: don't produce Wanted: Weapons of Fate, then proceed to poke fun of anything game related.

Bullshit.

Wii is outselling simply because it's a better system. Yup, it's third party games suck ass, and yup, most of the other games are simple ass wagglers. But how do you measure a systems worth? It's a system that sells a shitload and is played by everyone. Just because it doesn't have deep RPGs or FPS or whatever (yeah, like, Wanted... that game is just dying to suck it hard) doesn't add any sort of demerit.

I don't even have the Wii - I sold it and got a 360. Because I wanted more "mature" games with deeper systems, etc. But I'm not fooling myself for a second thinking that XBOX is somehow superior. In fact, I get pissed off at the XBOX lineup because it seems like every game wants me to sit alone in a dark room and game with some nerdzz on the internet instead of playing with my friends, in my own house. Angry programmers like this need to get outta town. And for the record, Genesis wasamazing.

Looks like Mr. Holmes just got pissed ! (and the Genesis has Gunstar Heroes and Contra Hardcore , so the argument is invalid)

This is some bullshit. He's bashing Nintendo for how third party's are making shit games? Come on, this dude would be an intern if he developed games for Nintendo. Yes the system is underpowered, and yes there is a shit ton of shovel ware on the system but that is not Nintendo's fault. Should they start forcing game companies to only make 2 games a year to prevent this like they did back in the NES days? Nintendo makes great games, Metroid Prime, Mario Galaxy and Twilight Princess are better than almost any game this generation. Add in some games by third parties that arent looking to make a quick buck (Mad World, No More Heroes) and its a good game library. Nintendo isn't forcing these lazy third party developers to make shitty party games, so I dont see why they get all this heat.

Nintendo found out making things other than video games makes much more money.

All this Wii bashing just seems like elitist (core) gamers not wanting to share the video game market with anyone else but them selves. If you play most of your games and have most of your friends on a 360 or PS3 then why bother trying to convince Nintendo to make (your) games for the Wii. Nintendo has always been centered around being the family computer and third-party developers that were once dedicated to the NES/SNES have since moved on to consoles that are dedicated to their (core) audience.

I think this might just be some attention grabbin. After the demo of Wanted, I don't think I'll be renting it, let alone buying it.
I'm not sure if he hates Nintendo, old people, kids or the Genesis, but he seems angry about someting.

Oh look, another Wii-bashing circle jerk.

We're starting to see that Wii has great potential and third parties are starting to explode it. I've tried games like Madworld, Let's tap, Dead Rising (which is a good game if you don't make any comparison of the 360 version) and Deadly Creatures and I think that these developers are finally getting how to work with Wii specs.

Too bad his game sucks.

I couldn't even finish listening to it after about 3 minutes. When he said that the fact that Scarface was a port to the Wii could not possibly have had anything to do with its relatively low sales, that Madworld would have to sell 3 MILLION copies to legitimize the Wii as a third party platform, and that to port a game to the Wii you need to make it go below what a PS2 game is, my mind nearly exploded from the sheer fucking idiocy of it all.

It's really incredible what a fucking retard that guy is.