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Square Enix Senior Vice President Shinji Hashimoto has been talking, seemingly against his will, about Chrono Trigger and the posibility of a followup. It is one of the most beloved RPGs of all time, but according to Hashimoto, this isn't reflected in the sales, and its alleged poor performance is the reason why a sequel is yet to come.

"Why does everyone ask about Chrono Trigger?" he laughed when asked about the game. When he was told that the game was adored by fans, his response was quite blunt: "That's not what the sales tell me!"

"If people want a sequel, they should buy more!" 

It seems that Chrono Trigger, for now, has been relogated to remake limbo, destined to be churned out on a new format by Square Enix every five years or so. Chrono Trigger fans will be waiting a long time to get their followup game, it seems. That'll teach them for not buying fifteen copies every time the game was released.


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Shin Oni's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 22:32
Shin Oni
and this is exactly why people look down on Squeenix when it's not FF. They're quick to shovel out the sales of FF but the unique games that has a cult following or a possibilty of getting big, and they deny it.

CT's long overdue of a sequal. Cross was so left open....

and TWEWY was more than popular...but who's fault was it that the game was so hard to find even upon release?
Nexas's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 22:35
Nexas
"If people want a sequel, they should buy more!"

Stop selling your DS games for $40 and maybe I would.
koehler83's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 22:36
koehler83
The truth is, they wouldn't be able to do a sequel justice anymore.
Josh Tolentino's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 22:38
Josh Tolentino
Wasn't the sequel Chrono Cross?
Paroxysm's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 22:40
Paroxysm
I bought it so where's my sequel?! I held up my end of the bargin Square!
Chronic Logic's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 22:40
Chronic Logic
Chrono Trigger sequel? Did Chrono Cross not happen? Or did it suck so bad that fans just pretend that game never happened?
Monodi's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 22:42
Monodi
I still haven't played Chrono Cross but so far al the feedback I have checked says it's decent.

Either way, the bastard should get Chrono Cross on DS too, amirite? Amirite?
Johnnyreb2565's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 22:43
Johnnyreb2565
As good as Chrono is I want a Tie Fighter remake! Oh, how great that could be.
Vigor's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 22:49
Vigor
I bought chrono trigger for the snes, I also bought chrono cross, and I also bought final fantasy chronicles. And I know most people bought all the ones I have listed as well. So what more do they want?
JT706's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 22:49
JT706
What a dick.
Chocobo Knight's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 22:49
Chocobo Knight
I bought Chrono Cross day one when it was released! Same with Chrono Trigger DS!

I refuse to buy the rest of the garbage S-E keeps churning out. There used to be a time where I didn't have to question games purchased under the Squaresoft banner; those days are sadly gone.
Zen Albatross's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 22:50
Zen Albatross
@Chronic Logic: I pretend that Chrono Cross wasn't actually a game, but rather a really good script that had shitty gameplay thrown on top of it.
Tronjoy's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 22:51
Tronjoy
Chrono Trigger was awesome, but I'm fine with their not being a sequel (other than Chrono Cross). Some games are so good they don't need sequels.
Vanilla Gorilla's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 22:51
Vanilla Gorilla
You drive a hard bargain, Mr. Hashimoto, but if that's what it takes, I will go buy more Chrono Trigger. I'll go buy the DS version for the DS I don't own.

Also, you can't include the PS1 remake in your considerations, because that sucked shit. Much like the Final Fantasy Anthology.
trunxkam45's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 22:51
trunxkam45
Sequels and ports are two different things. Why should I get excited about buying a game for the ds when it's readily available to me in a variety of other ways?
kavorka's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 22:53
kavorka
Chrono Trigger was great! How about a giveaway contest in support of the cause, Destructoid?? :D :D :D
microwavefood's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 22:55
microwavefood
I bought chrono cross and imo was an "OK" game but...
If they were to make an excellent true sequel to chrono trigger I would buy it definitely. SQUARE you hear me??? I would buy it.

On a related note if they could somehow find it in their powers to make a true xenogears sequel as well, I would so buy that, omfg I think I would shed tears of pure joy.
starhawl's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 23:00
starhawl
Id settle for a 3d chrono trigger remake oh wait...
mo0man's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 23:02
mo0man
The extra content on the Remake was terrible. If the sequel is going to be anything like that, good riddance
Diverse's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 23:04
Diverse
Why do people want a Chrono Trigger sequel? Sure it was a great game, but it ended on a good note. What more do you want? MOVE ON!
Brian Keljore's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 23:05
Brian Keljore
Well if he's basing it on sales that explains all the Final Fantasy 7 crap that I could care less about.
Shin Oni's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 23:06
Shin Oni
I didn't even bother with that extra content on the DS port.

@Microwavefood

good luck on that. Monolith was supposed to finish the Xeno series but that broke apart before finishing it completely.
mo0man's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 23:07
mo0man
DS port, whatever, if the sequel means more recoloured sprites, more recycled areas, more "oh, I want lunch. Oh, thanks for lunch, get me a banana, oh thanks for the banana, I need materials" bull, we' might as well not get one
funran's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 23:08
funran
this guy is a douche, i've bought this game 3 times! maybe people are not buying it because they already own it from the snes, or ps1 like me....although i did buy the ds version, but i know not everyone is crazy like me.
DaedHead8's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 23:10
DaedHead8
I own the PSone port of Chrono Trigger and thats it. I'd buy the SNES version if I could, but Squenix wouldn't see any of that money. I guess I could buy the DS version but really, why should I? Squenix,I bought the game once, as well as Crono Cross, now give me a proper sequel damnit. Last I heard you already had a name, "Chrono Break" or something like that, so get to it!
Cough's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 23:15
Cough
Well... what exactly do you want? More time with chrono and friends? Expand the adventures in that world? Another game with Time travel? Wich is it?
The story ended. Is Lavos being revived? Another bad guy? Another lavos coming to earth?
Brian Keljore's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 23:17
Brian Keljore
@Diverse: Why do people want more of anything? Hell, they've made how much crap based off of Final Fantasy 7 and that game's fans still want more.

A Chrono Trigger sequel could work very well based on the time travel mechanic alone. It certainly would be more interesting than Cloud's balls finally droping.
Company's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 23:19
Company
I'm pretty sure I saw a story the other day about an unopened copy of Chrono Trigger for the SNES that was selling for $1200 dollars. I don't think that sort of thing can happen if there aren't a lot of people out there who love that game. People who would love a sequel (that's not Chrono Cross?).

Along with that, between the DS and SNES and PSX versions, the game has sold over 3 million copies. 3 MILLION. Is that not a proper reception? Or does Square consider that a failure for them?

Even so, there's part of me that says that sequels shouldn't just be about how well the original game sold, and more about wanting to improving on the design without copying it exactly. But if your first game didn't sell very well, then it makes sense not to risk a sequel.

But this is Square Enix now, they have the money (the gall?) to announce a numerical sequel (admittedly a MMO) to a game that they haven't even finished yet. It's depressing how most companies can't even stay afloat in our economy if their last game wasn't a hit (Free Radical!), yet here's a company that can roll out the red carpet for game after game without worrying about their fiscal success.

All this, and they're asking us to buy more copies of Chrono Trigger to prove we want a sequel. I'm sorry, but no. I won't. I love Chrono Trigger, but I'm not going to pad Square Enix's pockets so they can rake in the cash for something they aren't even passionate about doing. Suda 51 wanted to make a No More Heroes sequel so badly I'm fairly certain he had started before he knew the game sold 500k worldwide. That's the kind of passion that should drive a sequel.

But you know what, I don't even really want a Chrono Trigger sequel (Cross??). I mean, the first game is good enough for me. I'm done.
Shin Oni's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 23:21
Shin Oni
@Cough

actually, Cross left the series very wide open.
Trevor McGee's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 23:33
Trevor McGee
@ Diverse

It ended on a good note for the most part, but what about Magus? He was still trying to find his sister Schala at the end, the follow up could involve something about that.

Anyway, I call bullshit on his excuse. I know Chrono Trigger sold very well, Chrono Cross did very well, and I'm pretty sure even Chrono Trigger DS did very well considering it was an over priced port with a few extra slapped on.
Doomsday Forte's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 23:33
Doomsday Forte
And everyone wants to see Chrono and crew get killed off in Porre. Or so I've read...

Honestly, that kind of talk is rather lame. For a game that's seen two rereleases (and both enhanced ports) and a sequel that has varied reception, the Chrono series is kinda unloved in Square's portfolio.

That, and what he's asking for given what happened to Chrono Resurrection and Crimson Echoes is just swell. Yeah, tout copyright infringement all you want, but talk about one way to really sour your fans. What, is Square gonna start cracking down on all of the Cloud fanart all over the Internet? *rolleyes*
SephirothX's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 23:35
SephirothX
Cross wasn't as much a sequel as it was another game set in the same universe. It has loose connections to Cross... but if anyone is familiar with the game Radical Dreamers, Chrono Cross is basically that game with a different skin. Plus Cross wasn't -that- great, I found it to be an unnecessarily convoluted story and overall just wasn't as fun as Trigger.
mascot1063's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 23:40
mascot1063
And people wonder why I turned my back on Square Enix... Fuck you Square, fuck you
shinobiflip's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 23:51
shinobiflip
It didn't really end on a good note, as others have pointed out there are plenty of loose ends out there. And lots of stuff in between like how Porre beat Guardia and etc. But yeah I doubt they'll ever touch this franchise again (besides more ports)
garison's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 23:58
garison
I bought it.
pixelpunx's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/09/2009 00:01
pixelpunx
Take that R4!!! I own CT on SNES, PS1, and DS. I deserve a sequel for my dedication... maybe they should stop remaking the fucking game and start a sequel.
Wexx's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/09/2009 00:04
Wexx
They're doing it wrong...
Brlito's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/09/2009 00:09
Brlito
Just because of this REALLY transparent money grubbing (at least make a good excuse!), they just lost a FFXIII sale. Hah take that assholes!
Vanilla Gorilla's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/09/2009 00:10
Vanilla Gorilla
Wait, hold up, I think I didn't do it right the first time.

OH FUCKING CHRIST WHAT THEY'RE DOING DOES NOT MATCH UP WITH WHAT I WANT THEM TO DO, FUCK THEM THOSE GREEDY CUNTS WHO ARE NOW RUINING THE INDUSTRY WHAT FUCKING DICKBAGS!

Sorry, I forgot we can't ever be content or happy with anything anymore.
BluDesign's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/09/2009 00:11
BluDesign
Was it not enough that I paid $80 for it back in 1993?

What the fuck did you do with that $80 I paid? You sure as shit better not have spent it on FFVIII. If you did, we're having words Square.
JynxShot's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/09/2009 00:15
JynxShot
"That's not what the sales tell me!"

Prick. Give us our fucking sequel. And grab Bushido Blade 3 while you're at it.
Ghil's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/09/2009 00:15
Ghil
you know, I bought every remake and waited so long for a sequel and wow...that's pretty sad. I know money is everywhere and all this but I always thought, perhaps a little naively, that game creator where artists in their own right, and had belief in what they did. A sequel to one of the greatest RPGs and one of the best stories of the SNES era shouldn't be motivated by greed, but by the desire to discover that world again, and create and enjoy another tale of greatness.

I'll always be too naive I think.
FistfulOAwesome's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/09/2009 00:17
FistfulOAwesome
That guy can suck my hairy nuts! As others have said I'm not going to pay for a port at that price. Make a new game and I'll buy it. Telling fans to buy a port in hopes of a sequel is pretty evil if they don't plan on doing it anyway (as Company has pointed out it has sold 3 million through it's various releases). That port is fans paying for false hope.

You know, Square-Enix should take a tip from Capcom. Say what you want about the quality of their franchise revivals (Bionic Commando, Street Fighter IV=:( SSFIITHDR, Megaman 9, Rearmed=:) but at least they are either remaking games in their franchises or making new ones. There is effort there. Not just straight money-grubbing.
reruns's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/09/2009 00:23
reruns
@SephirothX: No. Radical Dreamers is not the same at all except for some shared plot elements. That said, both games do tie up all the loose ends from CT pretty nicely without creating any more crazy plot holes.

Anyway, Cross was a great game, but totally different from Trigger (which was intentional and important). As a result, it's extremely polarizing. If CT gets another sequel, it needs to be old-school style (which is ironic, considering that Cross was totally turn based, making it technically more old-school than Trigger. Sort of.).

I call shenanigans on this guy's sales numbers, too. Trigger originally sold about 2 million copies. Cross sold about 700,000, enough to be a Greatest Hits title. Chrono Trigger on DS is nearing 1 million copies after 27 weeks, far better than Final Fantasy IV did in the same time.

They're selling pretty damn well, but Square apparently wants it to be like fuckin' Dragon Quest before we get another new title.
eternalplayer2345's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/09/2009 00:33
eternalplayer2345
I want a spiritual sequel, chrono trigger and cross ended well. I would love to see something with the same gameplay as trigger but a whole new story and characters
Matt Madeiro's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/09/2009 00:35
Matt Madeiro
It's not an original POV, looking at the rest of the comment thread, but count me in for the group not exactly pumped at the thought of a sequel.

My memories of Chrono Trigger are so blissful and nostalgic by this point that I doubt a continuation of the story could satisfy. It's worth noting too that the original guys behind CT were a dream team in every sense of the phrase, so I'd be pretty surprised if Square Enix could produce a similar quality of work.

In other news, *dear god* I sound jaded.
Projectexodus's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/09/2009 00:35
Projectexodus
They have the gall to complain about low sales numbers when they never released the game in Europe!? Fuck you square-enix!

And yes, I know the game came out in Europe this year for the DS. But it was during the SNES era that it was commercially popular.
Fantasy-XIV's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/09/2009 00:56
Fantasy-XIV
Gee, buy more? I have the SNES and DS version, plus CC for PSX. This day and age, I'm sure a sequel will sell like hot cakes. Just hype it?
Shin Oni's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/09/2009 01:03
Shin Oni
They're selling pretty damn well, but Square apparently wants it to be like fuckin' Dragon Quest before we get another new title.

reruns made a funny in my head.

I have the PS1 and DS port. more than enough if we're not gonna get a true sequel. Especially if they keep having time to whore out FFVII nonsense.
Dao2-SKP's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/09/2009 01:06
Dao2-SKP
I would love a remake! but not one made by squeenix, they'd just fuck around with my good memories so I'll leave it as it is thanks ;p
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